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Game 15: Tigers at Angels

Detroit Tigers at Los Angeles Angels, Apr 23, 2009 10:05 PM EDT


  Edwin Jackson (1-0, 2.14) vs.   Matt Palmer (0-0, -.--), 10:05 p.m. EST

One more dance remains with the Tigers in Pacific Standard Time (until they travel out to Oakland at the end of June) before we can return to watching baseball at a more normal hour tomorrow. 

Edwin Jackson comes off his first win of the season after shutting out the Mariners through eight flu-plagued innings last Saturday.  Right now, he looks like far more of an ace for the Tigers than Justin Verlander has.  Detroit could probably use another longer outing from Jackson after having to use four relievers last night, but Eddie Bonine and Nate Robertson haven't gotten much work lately, so maybe we could see them tonight.  (On the other hand, if we see either of those two, will the game be going well for the Tigers?)

In seven career appearances against the Angels, Jackson has a 1-2 record and 5.73 ERA.  All four of his starts versus LAAnaheim have been at Angel Stadium.

Matt Palmer arrives from Triple-A to take over for Darren Oliver, who last pitched this turn in the Angels' rotation.  Unfortunately, Oliver may have been stretched out a bit too far in four innings and 62 pitches (he never pitched more than 2.2 innings last year), and ended up with a sore arm.  But instead of going back to the bullpen, Oliver is actually headed to the 15-day DL.  In two minor league starts this season, Palmer went 1-1 with an 11.74 ERA.  (He was 0-2 in three major league starts for the Giants last year.)

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Lineups

Detroit
1. Granderson CF
2. Polanco 2B
3. Ordonez RF
4. Cabrera 1B
5. Guillen DH
6. Inge 3B
7. Anderson LF
8. Treanor C
9. Everett SS

Pitching: Edwin Jackson

Anaheim
1. Figgins 3B
2. Izturis SS
3. Abreu RF
4. Hunter DH
5. Morales 1B
6. Rivera LF
7. Matthews CF
8. Kendrick 2B
9. Mathis C

Pitching: Matt Palmer

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 23, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Over-Dramatic

I’m calling it right now (albeit sarcastically) that this next series against the Royals is a must win series for the Tigers, it could decide the division race

by jgrubbs on Apr 23, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks

They were the only hockey games I got to go to as a kid, the wings were to expensive

by jgrubbs on Apr 23, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Vipers game were cool. Caught my one and only puck there.

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 23, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Vipers put on a show.

Watched them play Gretzky’s All Stars the year of the NHL strike.

by rook34 on Apr 23, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

April in the D

My apologies if this has been discussed before, I was late to the party this year. Which April in the D song is worse, this year or last years?

by jgrubbs on Apr 23, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Last year's, definitely

They play/played both of ’em WAY too much, though

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say last year's

But I think I’m in the minority. This year’s edition has grown on me.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 23, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

last year's was

but that’s like asking if you’d rather have your left arm cut off without pain killers, or your right.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 23, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Guess I am in the minority here, I agree they are both terrible, but I thought this years was that much worse

by jgrubbs on Apr 23, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm of the belief

that last years edition seems worse because of the terrible April the tigs had vs this rather good one

by Trysdor on Apr 23, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing I don't

understand is Caffeine-free Diet Coke. What’s the point? It tastes horrible and no “boost”.

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 23, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

yeah. why not try … caffiene free, diet “water”

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 23, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

beefy

Mr Palmer is a big boy

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Apr 23, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Got Edwin going

in two of my fantasy leagues.. do work

by Packey on Apr 23, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

get you some Curtis

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Apr 23, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Now would be a good time...

for Mags to break that no-extra bases string.

by rook34 on Apr 23, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Works as good as a bunt.

Not what you’re looking for from your 3, but it beats a double play.

by rook34 on Apr 23, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Figgins

But I’ve never understood why Scioscia doesn’t play him in the outfield, instead of the Angels signing a centerfielder every year.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 23, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

crap!

Maggs and Guillen, geez, get it out of the infield

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 23, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Pure Speed

A stolen base and an infield hit this early in the year, must be the new, speedier Cabrera

by jgrubbs on Apr 23, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

c’mon carlos, gotta pick up them ducks….

at least we put something on the board after getting the first two on

by ahtrap on Apr 23, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

got my nap in, too, despite trying to watch playoff hockey at the time….sometimes, exhaustion just wins…

by ahtrap on Apr 23, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Catching

Does Treanor catching today mean that Laird will be catching Porcello for the first time this year tomorrow?

by jgrubbs on Apr 23, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

E5?

That wasn’t an error. Especially compared to last night

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 23, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

What would Zoolanders ERA have been with a scoring change?

by Zappatista on Apr 23, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i forget, does carlos guillen have a nickname?

by ahtrap on Apr 23, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

i propose turning his initials CG into ciggy, and that way, you got a lineup (not in that order) of Ciggy, Miggy and Maggs.

Other than the fact it sounds like a law firm out of an Adam Sandler flick, it’s got a decent ring to it….

by ahtrap on Apr 23, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

to see less than a 40 pitch first inning.

by dettigionswings'stons on Apr 23, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Am I correct in thinking...

…that Abreu’s swipe is the first stolen base the Angels have gotten against the Tigers in this series?

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

According to Baseball-Reference

Five bases had been stolen against the Tigers coming into tonight.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 23, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant in this series...

…not all season

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

yellowpages.com needs to buy better ad placement. they should thank inge for that one!

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 23, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Consider this next base stolen

by wesside on Apr 23, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

again, feeling old looking at Josh Anderson’s pic on the yahoo boxscore page

by ahtrap on Apr 23, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, Anderson's older than me...

…which is becoming an increasingly rare occurence.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yet another question

I have been having a discussion with some friends at work, who will hit more home runs this year, Inge or A-Rod?

by jgrubbs on Apr 23, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

interesting question

I’m going with … hmm. Inge is going to slow down but A-Rod has health issues. Probably A-Rod still.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 23, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I soooo want to hate Brandon Inge

after all the BS of the last couple of seasons. No hit, all mouth.

Then he has to go and hit another home run.

I’m almost ready to forgive him. Almost…

by BigAl on Apr 23, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Just go ahead and get it over with, you will feel better….you can switch your ire to whichever loser the Lions pick Saturday…..

by Zappatista on Apr 23, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

All mouth?

He just wanted to play, I don’t think he promised any numbers did he? Inge is a loveable guy!

by Packey on Apr 23, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has the mlb network shown a tigers game yet?

by ahtrap on Apr 23, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

With Thames out

I’ve got a feeling Anderson is basically an everyday player.

by Trysdor on Apr 23, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson definitely needs to play everyday

He gives the opposing team headaches every time on the field

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 23, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently the squeeze

is officially on our scouting report.

by Trysdor on Apr 23, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe they should have squeezed

mr anderson’s going to have a long day with those guys hitting behind him

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 23, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

That was a stinger there. Hopefully it doesn’t come back to bite us.

by rook34 on Apr 23, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Grandy and Andy's shirts are all dirty and it's only the 2nd inning

It’s gonna be a good day tater

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Apr 23, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Raburn would've misplayed that for a double last night

Maggs isn’t great in RF, but he makes the plays he’s supposed to.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 23, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Ian

Did you get my email the other day about the BYB Bracket Blowout T-shirt for winning?

by wesside on Apr 23, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Also

Can we get a poll going for Cabrera’s nickname?

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 23, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did

Your shirt should be in the mail. If you haven’t received it by next week, please let me know.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 23, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zoinks!

3 straight called strikes. From a 3-0 count.

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 23, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Fantasy

Do I pitch him? I’m thinking no….

by Packey on Apr 23, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I might not either

Though I am heavily invested.. and he’s coming off of a CG SHO

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 23, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what scares me

little hang over effect, how long will his scoreles streak really last until he’s do for a poor outing? Tigers averaging 6 rpg this year… I’m going no. I’ve decided.

by Packey on Apr 23, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

an asleep batter

might be the only one Farnsworth can get out

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Apr 23, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farnsworth

I hope we get to face him…

by rrsmithers on Apr 23, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So..

Matt Treanor is absolved of wrongdoing on that throw?

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 23, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

I haven’t been as impressed with Treanor’s defense as I’m told I should be

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 23, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

Nor have I. Can Misty May catch?

-s
trumbullandmichigan.com

by seanheyboer on Apr 23, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

mlb.tv

we dont even get commercials.

-s
trumbullandmichigan.com

by seanheyboer on Apr 23, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miguel Cabrera

5 tool player

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Apr 23, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahaha

He’ll steal 40 this year.

-s
trumbullandmichigan.com

by seanheyboer on Apr 23, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inge

Time for number 7?

-s
trumbullandmichigan.com

by seanheyboer on Apr 23, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Those of you who DON'T live in Toledo...

…should be grateful for not having to watch god-awful Appliance Center commercials.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention...

Those lame Little Caesar’s commercials

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

from perrysburg originally, in Columbus now, i remember those terrible commericials

by PBURGTIGER on Apr 23, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

They haven't gotten any better...

the current campaign features a family going to Appliance Center like they’re on a spy mission

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect time of the night

for Knapp to whisper some sweet nothings into Edwin’s ear with his hand on his left hip

by Packey on Apr 23, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa

FSD’s audio feed just got abducted by another broadcast

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on EJ

We need strikes.

.. and now there’s another earthquake!

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 23, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

OK not too bad

But those 2 walks were killer..

We need to get to Oliver NOW

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 23, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice tightroping, EJ.

Now let’s put a crooked number up there to help the man.

by rook34 on Apr 23, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, the offense seems to have gone to sleep...

and now so must I. Six AM is coming up real fast. ’Night all.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 23, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Mario

got so excited for Torri Hunter (“what a year he is having”)

He wasn’t that excited for Inge and his numbers are better…

by Packey on Apr 23, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I can see Maggs hitting his 18th single

and Miggy Smalls(!) homering.

Let’s make it happen!

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 23, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I really hate it...

when we make rookies look like all-stars.

by rook34 on Apr 23, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

especially one that had an era of 11.7 in the minors….

by ahtrap on Apr 23, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That new and improved D...

doesn’t look so new and improved this evening.

by rook34 on Apr 23, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

i

keep forgetting the score is so close, it feels like a massacre

by okie for michigan on Apr 23, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

the massacre you speak of is brewing

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 24, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

jinx

dammit. is jackson being taken out yet? i’m doing the mlb.tv thing.

by okie for michigan on Apr 24, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, tonight we saw the Jackson we'd been warned about

He certainly got no help from his defense, but it was a rough night.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 24, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, he wasn't throwing strikes in the tough spots

But damn, the defense.. no favors at all from them

Lots of infield hits too

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 24, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK why is my gamecast frozen at 3 and 2 on mathis?

by PBURGTIGER on Apr 24, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

so it’snot just me? I thought I’d screwed it up by trying to watch the clip of Inge’s bomb

by ahtrap on Apr 24, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because of Inge's error

Ball went into the camera well, and two runs scored. Gamecast is probably trying to sort it out.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 24, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good analysis by Rod on Cabrera at 1B

If Cabrera has his other foot on the bag, he might be able to block that ball and get it down.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 24, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

We just CAN'T seem to win

on days the Royals and Sox lose. Luckily that has to change tomorrow.

by Trysdor on Apr 24, 2009 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Not a bad throw by Inge

Pretty clean one hop on a great diving stop….Cabrera looked like an inexperienced first baseman on that throw…

by Packey on Apr 24, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

ahh jesus

nevermind, its all completely falling apart

by PBURGTIGER on Apr 24, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Leyland looks like he’d rather be popping a Viagra and railing Mrs. Leyland than managing some days.

by longview on Apr 24, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I simply cannot believe..

How many infield hits this team gives up. It’s amazing.

by rook34 on Apr 24, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just got home

what the hell is going on? I thought they were pitching a rook just up from AAA?

by Juskimo on Apr 24, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, they are

And he’s set down 13 Tigers in a row.

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 24, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check that

12 in a row, then a single, then 1 more

by explosivo2k2 on Apr 24, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I lol’d when Everett booted that ball yet continued the throwing motion…maybe if I PRETEND I have the ball it will magically appear in my hands!!

by longview on Apr 24, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Can we get that frame-by-frame as a turning point?

by longview on Apr 24, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

so uhm

when does that team plane take off again?

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 24, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

They keep mentioning that the Tigers will get to KC at like 5:30am…for a 7:30pm start….against Zack Greinke…who has been PHENOMENAL this season…

Chalk it as a loss already?

by longview on Apr 24, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

no

you’d have chalked this game up as a win, the tigers against a guy with an 11 ERA in the minors. So why chalk up a loss against Greinke?

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 24, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

we’ll probably smack greinke around tomorrow, watch

by ahtrap on Apr 24, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

But I don’t like the odds. Greinke is masterful so far this season.
20 IP, 26 K, ZERO earned runs.

I suppose it’s time to get him in the ER column.

by longview on Apr 24, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Their pen is awful

and their offense is blah. I wouldn’t count us out just yet.

by Trysdor on Apr 24, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to make a judgment too early...

but other than his clutch double play yesterday, I’m really not seeing the major defensive improvement thus far at shortstop.

by rook34 on Apr 24, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

maybe

treanor will hit a game tying grand slam

by okie for michigan on Apr 24, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

“I’d like to have a batting average someday.”

Seriously…I could have told you this guy was one of the top-5 worst offensive players in MLB. Easily.

by longview on Apr 24, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Strangely,

I’m not that worried about KC, if only because Gordon can’t play and kill us.

by rook34 on Apr 24, 2009 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Uhh...does this guy not know

that Larish isn’t exactly Hank Aaron?

by Trysdor on Apr 24, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Okay.

Let’s see if Everett can atone by getting these guys to 2nd and 3rd.

by rook34 on Apr 24, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Didn't someone once say

that Adam Everett is a 3 run homer waiting to happen?

by Trysdor on Apr 24, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm.

Let’s take a trip to Grandyland.

by rook34 on Apr 24, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

come on coach

palmer is just getting warmed up

by okie for michigan on Apr 24, 2009 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I kept waiting

for Palmer to throw up and have Ervin Santana fly out, and finish the game. But alas…

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow

We have seen some bad pitching tonight.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 24, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Cardiac Cats

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com/

by rock n rye on Apr 24, 2009 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

can Maggs somehow pull off

the GITP? I’d be almost impressed.

by Trysdor on Apr 24, 2009 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

ok, back, what did I miss?

by ahtrap on Apr 24, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

hey, on the bright side

their pen remains awful, and we’ve got two innings left.

by Trysdor on Apr 24, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

way to work the count

Good thing Mags/Mig Papi aren’t doctors. Cuz they have no patience. I slay me.

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

A\

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

woops

meant to say Anaheim’s pen makes me not feel worried…then Kendrick doubles.

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Jake Taylor-Chone Figgins

seperated at birth?

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

why

isn’t this inning over???

by okie for michigan on Apr 24, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

They're discussing Chien Ming Wang

on ESPN, somehow I feel better

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

let Bonine and Lyon

trek cross-country like Thelma and Louise. (yes I saw the ending)

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 - 3 On West Coast.....

…..Ill take that…..Good trip to the left coast guys.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 24, 2009 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Rivera

meet a brick wall

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 1:00 AM EDT reply actions  

same here

obviously

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best Jump For Cebter Fielder Ive Ever Seen

Wasnt fast and always made the play……Perfect CF

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 24, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I became a fan as a youngster originally

because he stuck his ass out when he batted. I was like 4-5. lol

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

and my grandma

bought me his starting line-up figure

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depeche Mode was on Kimmel

Somehow that makes me feel old and young at the same time. Odds on them playing the Super Bowl next year?

Chet Lemon for the HOF

by YakAttack on Apr 24, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

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