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Game 4: Tigers at Blue Jays

Detroit Tigers at Toronto Blue Jays, Apr 9, 2009 12:37 PM EDT


  Rick Porcello vs.   Ricky Romero, 12:37 p.m. EST

Is today the beginning of a prosperous major league career for Rick Porcello with the Detroit Tigers or more of a learning hurdle, as Justin Verlander's first major league start was, back in 2005

Different situations, obviously, as Porcello won a job in Spring Training, while Verlander made a spot start in a doubleheader.  Not to mention the different points each pitcher was at in their careers.  But this is going to be a very intriguing afternoon at Rogers Centre. 

Also making his first major league start will be Ricky Romero for the Blue Jays.  And as you've probably heard or read by now, this will be the first time two first-round draft picks rookie pitchers have made their debuts against each other.

With a day game after a night game, Gerald Laird and Placido Polanco are sitting this one out.  Matt Treanor will make his first start of the season at catcher, and Ramon Santiago fills in at second base.  Marcus Thames will also get the start in left field and bat second in the lineup today, with Carlos Guillen back at designated hitter.

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Not to get sappy...

but just terribly sad news about Nick Adenhart. Just awful.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

just watched the angels-A’s last night. Very weird and tragic to see that happened

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starting Lineups

DETROIT

1. Curtis Granderson CF
2. Marcus Thames LF
3. Magglio Ordoñez RF
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Carlos Guillen DH
6. Brandon Inge 3B
7. Matt Treanor C
8. Ramon Santiago 2B
9. Adam Everett SS

TORONTO

1. Marco Scutaro SS
2. Aaron Hill 2B
3. Alex Rios RF
4. Vernon Wells CF
5. Adam Lind DH
6. José Bautista 3B
7. Lyle Overbay 1B
8. Michael Barrett C
9. Travis Snider LF

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Thames hitting second?

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Porcello

Anyone dare to throw out a prediction for his performance today?

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

what are the odds of everett actually getting a hit today? my vote is for santiago full time at short with everett playin every 3 days or so, hes definetly not a full time player.

by HavocRox on Apr 9, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

i really dont think so hes battin ofer with how many errors?

by HavocRox on Apr 9, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's only been a few games...

let’s give him a few weeks.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

just frustrating thinking he was supposed to be a upgrade from renteria.

by HavocRox on Apr 9, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everett

is stilll WAY better on defense than Renteria. I don’t think anyone outside of Renteria’s family would disagree with that. That being said, Renteria is a much better hitter.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Captain Obvious statement of the day

Holy crap, Porcello looks young. I’d definitely card him.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Lets hope that

Misty-Matt shows us something

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Treanor

is the Adam Everett of catchers.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know treanor can actually stop the ball

by HavocRox on Apr 9, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jimmy really does

have some very interesting ideas about what the top of a lineup should look like, no?

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

He and LaRussa

Like sneaking a power guy into that #2 spot, for some reason.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

the whole half inning

seemed to be the philosophy “Rick’s nervous, let’s get out as fast as we can so he can pitch!”

Though somehow I dobt that was the plan

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

“Let the kid work out his butterfiles fast. Swing it, fellas.”

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m so excited to see Porcello!!!!!!!

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

shit.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully

That’s the last bit of rookie hazing we’re gonna see.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Just me

Or did that double play attempt seem kinda lazy?

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow...

he’s going to get a lot of grounders.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Whew!

Fielding his position and turning the double play. Nice work.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

That 2-seamer is NASTY. It breaks like halfway across the plate.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

What are the chances Cabrera homers in his first AB?

65%?

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

What are the chances someone takes a pitch in this inning to start an at-bat?

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

here it comes

HR

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Cabrera

He’s basically the new Chris Shelton (circa spring 2006).

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Last year was the only slow start he’s had in his career. He usually comes out hitting everything like this.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think we should wait

until we see him hitting in cold weather before we decided it was a one time thing.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

He seems like the kind of kid that could hit .300/35/120 in the Arctic.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

THAT'S...

the Inge I remember.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

one bad at bat

and you’re already jumping off the b.inge bandwagon? ;)

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have never...

been on the Inge wagon. I have never been a big fan. I still want him to play well, though.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mom told me Inge is my Tiger this year. My hands are tied.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tough break for you.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My mom was heartbroken when Pudge was traded, so Inge is her replacement. Don’t understand the mentality there, but hey, I’m not supposed to understand women.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny

mine misses Pudge too. I haven’t asked who replaces him

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the Inge I added to my fantasy team…

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...

but he’s not technically on my team yet. He doesn’t clear waivers until tomorrow.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just showed Porcello's parents

If I were them, I’d have shown up in fur coats.

“That’s our meal ticket!”

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking about that....

Do you think he paid for them to fly out and put them up in a hotel. Or, are mom and dad the proud type and insisted on paying their own way.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

they look awfully well dressed for a baseball game.

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice K there....

29 pitches through 2 innings.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Granderson...

Sometimes I am still really surprised by his opposite field power. Well done.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

GRANDY!

Nice to see it happen against a lefty too

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Come on Tigs!

Daddy needs a free Arby’s sandwich!

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Poor Rios...

That’s embarrassing.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

poor guy. if it was wells i wouldn’t care.

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

THAMES IS A BEAST

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

2 pitches to Thames so far today. Apparently he’s in a hurry.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marcus seems to have figured out

That the only way he’s getting three bags is to hit a guy in the face.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

He usually just takes 4 at a time instead.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that, boys and girls

Is why you don’t use easter basket grass to fill your ballpark.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

well done.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thames goes Op-o

Maybe I don’t watch enough baseball… I’m missing all of these new baseball terms the announcers are using these days.

by jb_sf on Apr 9, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

methinks the rookie is getting rattled.

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Cabrera

See ball. Hit ball. Dude is locked in right now.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Boy, I hope...

Porcello’s second time through the Jays’ lineup goes better for him.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

bright side

there is no way guillen hits into a double play here

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Boo birds

Gotta love those Canadians. Tigers better bring their batting helmets into the field.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Inge

will let us down.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

okay...

he shouldn’t feel bad about that. great play.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if Porcello can hold it together

The Tigs will have this one no problem. This kid looks very very hittable today.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Porcello

40 pitches through 3 innings.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Porcello seems to be

a little afraid of making those defensive plays….but who can blame him after the post season 2006 Tiger pitchers?

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

What are the canadian provinces that no one can ever remember because they don’t produce too many NHL hockey players?

by ahtrap on Apr 9, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like the aggressiveness

But that could’ve been a big inning without Santiago getting thrown out at home.

Two on, with one out and Grandy at the plate? I’d rather have that.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

soon as the ball took one hop into the glove, I knew trying to score there would be a big mistake

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only Curtis' second k of the year

good to see he’s cutting back on them. He’d definitely better than Sizemore in my book.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

there's 10?

BC, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, Northwest Territories/Nunavat….what am I missing? Is PEI actually a province of its own? or is Lbardor separate from newfoundland?

by ahtrap on Apr 9, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calm down, young sir.

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Wouldn’t have minded Treanor going out to the mound to talk to Porcello there.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

crap

I was hoping he would go his entire career without allowing a run.

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by spotstarters on Apr 9, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, see...

Going out there AFTER the hit isn’t as helpful, Mr. Misty May.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

do they still have mr. misty’s at Dairy Queens?

by ahtrap on Apr 9, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do! Although I don’t know if they’re called that anymore.

Might be “Arctic Freeze” or something like that.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

pitch count

how many do we suppose Porcello will be allowed to throw?

by BigJP on Apr 9, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

who knows. Leyland has yanked everyone before 90 so far this season.

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Apr 9, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know they kept him at 75 last season

by BigJP on Apr 9, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inge at 3rd.

How does it look like he’s doing over there? Any re-adjustment problems? I haven’t been able to watch any of the games…being a little gunshy on the mlb.tv price.

by gf206 on Apr 9, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

oh damn

i really do not like aaron hill

by BigJP on Apr 9, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

not gonna miss him when this series is over!

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that was fast

but he’s at 76 pitches, so I imagine the leash gets real short now

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

GameCast

sadly, I’m working and get no streaming audio or video, so I gotta watch the game cast on ESPN.com. is anybody warming up?

by BigJP on Apr 9, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know

I’ve got the BJ announcers on the XM

by pfuhrmeister on Apr 9, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

mlb.com’s gamecast is actually pretty nice…i just noticed they have a mini-mode so it doesn’t take up the whole screen…

by gf206 on Apr 9, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!

nice job lil Tiger

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Everett!

No way Renteria dives for a ball up the middle like that!

Even if he didn’t get the out, he kept the ball in the infield.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

From my perspective

No way he got in there before the tag.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

The Blue Jay announcers

are praising the umpire as if he were a god for that incredibly correct call.

by pfuhrmeister on Apr 9, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly........

There has to be some other commercial that they can show instead of this. WHY?!

by baum on Apr 9, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

When the Tigs are winning

they can play it. When the Tigs are losing, they just need to show Maggs’ HR in Oakland to win the pennant over and over again.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

that is a fantastic idea

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

who the hell ordered all the Blue Jay muscle?

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, I knew that I had a bad feeling when I saw rincon running in.

by baum on Apr 9, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay...

Rincon has… not been good in his two games.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

U-G

L-Y

Tigs, please, what’s your alibi?

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

rincon is horrible, fits in nicely with this bullpen

by HavocRox on Apr 9, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

what happen to the Rincon of 2 weeks ago?

Jeff

by cannonad03 on Apr 9, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

he made the team, now its time to relax

by HavocRox on Apr 9, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

better not relax for long

I don’t think anyone is going to be given a free pass

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it’s kind of hard to do that when he’s out there pitching. I guess someone needs to hold down a 27 ERA in the bullpen, though.

by baum on Apr 9, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

between him and lyon one of them need to go

by HavocRox on Apr 9, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that was Lyon’s job…

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget. This is the Tigers’ bullpen. There is plenty of room for everyone and anyone!

by baum on Apr 9, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any consolation?

Carl Pavano is getting pounded for the Indians this afternoon.

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

and to think a few years ago he was thought to be a good pick up for the tigers, good thing the yanks got him

by HavocRox on Apr 9, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF?!

I leave for one class and everything falls apart! What happened?

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

i sure could use a little country strong right now.

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

look away for a few minutes...

…and the game goes to pits….

so much for my streak in the espn streak for cash game….I think my tigers loyalty might cost me a few here and there, huh?

by ahtrap on Apr 9, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

hey.....

….what’s this April in the D thing?! I’ve never heard of it before!!

by baum on Apr 9, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

It's this excellent song

that the good and merciful people at FSN decided to bless us with 26 times a game.

by Trysdor on Apr 9, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

just got out of class

saw the first 5.1 innings while sitting in class HA I’m back now

by Detroit4lyfe on Apr 9, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

One of these days, we’ll use cheap, in-house options in the bullpen and life will be so much better…..

by baum on Apr 9, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

like who?

The peanut vendors? actually….those guys have pretty decent arms, I’ve seen ‘em chuck bags across an entire section of fans and accurately hit the guy requesting the nuts before…granted, it nailed the guy upside the head, but…it got to the right vicinity, didn’t it?

by ahtrap on Apr 9, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see Fien, Rapada, Dolsi (give the kid another chance), Kibler, Wise; although those last two are probably another year or two out….and ALL of them would be better than Rincon!

by baum on Apr 9, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

What are you talking about?

It seems like Rincon is doing a great job of serving up BP….

by handsomerob1 on Apr 9, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rincon.....

….Besides the hr pitch has been fine……Pitched well today.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 9, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

1.5 runs really

Guy on base didn’t belong to him but scored

by Kurt Mensching on Apr 9, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure.....

except that he threw 46 pitches during that time span, and most of his outs were fly outs. He was definitely serving up some BP. Also, looked like his command was only slightly shaky today instead of flat-out terrible

by baum on Apr 9, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy hell, treanor. swing the effing bat and make it hit the ball.

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

MAKE IT STOP!

Ian if you have any contacts at FSN can you ask them to please stop playing that awful April in the D song….I’m wearing out the mute button on my remote.

by jelletlambie on Apr 9, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

well i’m glad that’s over. fresh start (sort of) at home.

by wepri31 on Apr 9, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Bullpen Ian.....

…….There were best in the league last year……If you down after 6 you aint gonna beat Toronto.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 9, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well We Are One Game Ahead Of Last Season Place.....

…….For that im happy…..Tough place to win…..Gettin one is a good start

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 9, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got an IM from Mike McClary

“Here’s hoping April in the D is better than April in the T.”

by Ian Casselberry on Apr 9, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Ill Be In Detroit On Saturday.....

……Heading down to watch the Tigs From Traverse City

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 9, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Bats

Well I knew the pitching would be suspect but I’m more worried about the hitting. That’s what 16 runs in 4 games? I get Halladay but the rest wouldn’t be in that rotation if Toronto’s whole staff wasn’t on the DL.

by Emcobra on Apr 9, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Its early....

……Pitching is usually ahead of hitting……Dont be worried.

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 9, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

pitching

Well if pitching is ahead of hitting than we really are in trouble. Toronto had no problem teeing off on out staff. That is one of the worst hitting teams in the AL last year.

by Emcobra on Apr 9, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Up and running

Fellow Detroit sports fans, Motown String Music is up and running for business. Ian is my inspiration. I aim to do as good a job there as he does here. ::fingers crossed::

by Packey on Apr 9, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Series As A Whole....

……You cant win em all and they had a shot in 3 of the 4……Good Sign On the Road…..2 – 1 will be the best record in Div after the series…..so that puts us only 1.5 out……Plus Cle will be 0 – 3…….Much better start then last year……GO GET EM TIGERS!!!!

by BennieBladesFan on Apr 9, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

I had that “april in the d” 30 minute show on while writing up my blog post, and as it turns out, we should be thanking The Good Luck Joes, because the other entrants really, really sucked.

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