Game 44: Tigers at Royals
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT
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Detroit Tigers at Kansas City Royals, May 26, 2009 8:10 PM EDT
Edwin Jackson (4-2, 2.55) vs. 
Zack Greinke (7-1, 0.82), 8:10 p.m. EST
Now this could be fun. Only six starting pitchers in the American League have an ERA below 3.00 and two of them face off tonight at Kauffman Stadium.
Zack Greinke has been in a different category this season, however, allowing just six earned runs in 66 innings. He arguably pitched his "worst" game of the year last time out, giving up eight hits (and two runs) over six innings. But Greinke still would've gotten his eighth win if the Royals' bullpen hadn't eventually blown it. Perhaps his best effort so far was against the Tigers, in which he allowed only three hits in a complete game performance.
Edwin Jackson has had five days of rest since throwing 132 pitches last Thursday afternoon. But if he tires out earlier this evening, we'll probably have a good idea as to why. Jackson has won his previous three starts, giving up just four runs in 23 innings, with 20 strikeouts and six walks. Five of those walks were in that last start, however, which was his highest total of the season. If he walks that many batters again, fatigue could be a reason.
Here are tonight's starting lineups:
And I forgot to mention yesterday that Royals Review has your SB Nation opposing view for this series.
UPDATE: Dan Dickerson will be out of the Tigers' radio booth tonight, after he hurt himself while jogging. John Keating will jump over from FOX Sports Detroit and handle the play-by-play with Jim Price.
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Win an money at the Cashino Ian?
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
No, but I put down three Jamesons
while Mom won $350 on the slots. She’s the gambler.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah a little nervous about it
More nervous about Greinke and his sub-one ERA
by Detroit4lyfe on May 26, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It's all about how you are playing now
And the Tigers are playing great. 13 runs last game means we could be on a hot streak, similar to the ones we had against the AL West, where we scored big runs on consecutive nights.
Pick your poison indeed, OMR......
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
I like clete thomas
but feel a lot better having maggs and cabrera in the 3 and 4 holes.
… and maggs just showed why!
Clear the bags Mags....or at least one of them!
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
Todayw e've switched Zach Greinke's meds with Skittles
let’s see if he notices
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com
norfolk announcer
said bonderman isn’t looking especially sharp tonight. he’s allowed 2 runs (1 earned) with three walks. Announcer isn’t real descriptive of the pitching. I’ve only had it on for two innings but sounds like Toledo doesn’t have great defense.
No, he hasn’t been real sharp… fastball is topping out around 85 too. not the same Bondo we’ve seen in the past
I say let him take his time, we can stomach one more Gallaraga mediocrity
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No
there were some hits that should have been outs in his last outing. 3 walks is a bad sign though. What inning?
by Detroit4lyfe on May 26, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
aghhh
well we got one. I think Edwin will be sharp tonight
Excellent!
Grew up in Sault Sainte Marie, living in Knoxville for the last 1.5 years.
by TennesseeYooper on May 26, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Ishpeming here…got a friend lives in the soo, works for a plastics plant.
Knoxville isn’t a bad area though from what I remember driving through
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ll start dominating the board with talk of the Packers and cudighis.
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks MAK!
My dad is originally from Novi, so I grew up a Detroit everything fan.
by TennesseeYooper on May 26, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Funniest comment on the Freep board
about the article saying Carl Levin wants to take the Gitmo prisoners and put ‘em in the UP. Somebody said "Yeah, but if they ask the natives which ways Mecca, they’ll point to Green Bay"
Booo! I wish I could donate a portion of my state income tax to WI to help pay for the Lambeau renovation.
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
At least my money is where my mouth is…not many can claim to nearly come to blows with their old man over last year’s Brett Favre saga
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that was the worst thing they ever did
Old Lambeau with the green pole barn look was awesome. That was old time football. This new version of the stadium stinks.
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
A Hematite!
Man, you’ve got to love copper country and their mascots. We’re just the Blue Devils.
by TennesseeYooper on May 26, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
haha, yeah…Nimrods, Hematites, ModelTowners, Flivvers…
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget the Speedboys.
Bessemer played a basketball quarterfinal in the Sault once, loved that name.
by TennesseeYooper on May 26, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
what about the ModelHawker MinerTites hockey team out of Negaunee High?
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
hell, i played for em the first year of that conglome-mess
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
during b-ball season no less…too many school allegiances/testosterone-addled minds in one locker room
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
"conglome-mess"
sums it up all right. What a disaster that’s become.
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
…meanwhile, back at the Kaufman Ranch…
haha
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Might be a local ad
But the Meijer commercial with the little girl and the spinach is cracking me up!
The look on her face is hilarious.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
Ortiz
I’m tired of everyone reporting on every sandwich that David Ortiz eats…guy is done. And he wasn’t really “not done” for too many years anyways. Get over it.
Ok I’m done.
Jim Price
Does anybody else think Jim Price looks like the guy in the Little Caesar’s commercial who is supposed to remember side dishes by writing it on his forehead?
keating looks just thrilled to be there
I didn’t know Jim Price actually did any research for his broadcasts. Unless he was keeping track of which story to tell about his days catching in 68.
He's taken in all the BYB fantasy leagues
Just so you know. Not like I may have checked or anything…
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I actually drafted him......
maybe in another league, but then I ended up dropping him……and then kind of fell of the earth with the 500 going on and all……
He probably won’t be that good anyways,,,,,(pouting)….
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
I auto drafted him
whoops msised that. then dropped him because it’s not a keeper league and I didn’t want to wait it out.
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
With the buzz this guy is getting, I heard he is just gonna retire so he can get voted in on the first ballot in 2014
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
saw him play in Toledo yesterday… nothing too special. a walk, a bloop single, and a line drive that would have been a home run but was just foul. other than that, couple of ground outs. Big kid though.
So few players make immediate impacts…I thought LaPorta, Price, and Wieters were guaranteed all-stars this year according to the pre-season fantasy “experts”
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
when you are a Lebowski fan it’s just a fact of life. hahaha
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What did you think?
I still want my money back.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, shiney.
I loved it! But why did they call him Jimmy? I never read the comics, so that may be why I don’t understand that. Ryan Reynolds was scary.
Speaking of The Dude....
Ian, we need to set a night…..no?
Can’t be June 5th though, I will actually be making the trip to CoPa that night.
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
White russians/joints=Not even making it to Jackie Treehorn’s
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, not June 5
But that’s a good question. Do we base it on the game?
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
He is just solid, though. That fastball is a straight up laser beam
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
it would be a pleasure to watch him
if he pitched in the national league.
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed…can you imagine if he was racking up an extra 3k a game by throwing to pitchers, ala Jake Peavy?
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I just meant
I’d rather he be somewhere he can’t hard detroit!
But that too. he’d have a couple more K’s for sure
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
And Thome…that guy looks like that Sloth from the Goonies
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta run
friend is in town so we’re going to the bar with mlb extra innings… I will miss you guys though. tear
Does anyone else wonder what Tampa Bay fans are thinking about the Jackson for Joyce trade?
I’m not sure if they would even know because I don’t feel like EJ has gotten any national attention.
I root for the Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings and yes, the Lions.
www.twitter.com/zajareich
He is HEAVY underrated across the league
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I would guess
their angst mirrors ours over Jurrjens. Actually, I find it hard to believe anyone’s angst mirrors what people say about the Jurrjens trade.
He probably benefited a bit by getting out of the AL East, and he definitely benefited from Rick Knapp and throwing more strikes. I suspect they wouldn’t recognize him actually.
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
good point
he used to go against Boston/NYY, now he goes against Min/CWS…
by SkylineSeats on May 26, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Seemed like they weren't too broken up about trading him
I got the feeling they’d become frustrated with his development.
And as long as David Price comes up to the majors, maybe they’re okay with losing him.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
plus they had Shields and Kasmir
though they probably should have expected the trip to the DL for Kazmir
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com
agreed
It’s only 2-1. not the end of the world. Keep them off the board from now on, and we’ll get another shot. I dream of Farnsy now…
see if Greinke goes the CG
if the Royals are smart he will
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully we can grind out some at bats and get him out of there
if not, he hasn’t been unhittable… just need to string a couple together
Nice play by Laird!
That could stop the bleeding. Bad mistake by Butler drifting off second.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
Thank you, Cletus!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
It's like the at-bats got WORSE after the Royals took the lead
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
But aren't we really talking about one play?
If not for that throwing error, that sixth inning might have gone differently.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
and it's not like it's Sidney Ponson shutting the Tigers down
it’s Zack “Sub 1 ERA” Greinke
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com
You know...
At what point does Greinke’s effectiveness continue solely on the fact that he’s getting into the opposing hitters’ heads?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
What the?
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Why are the wheels falling off?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
132 pitches.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Hmmm...
I’m not sure throwing 132 pitches leads to throwing errors.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
why not
His pitches were starting to miss all over the place, too
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
ok jackson
you’ve proven you have a solid grasp of tigers PFP history, now cut it out
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Okay...
The bad throws are getting old now.
Miggy had a chance to get Callaspo at home there.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
That man just gets bored
He should go for the full out Wolverine mutton chops look.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter
He’s gonna look different every time out.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the Royals had the struggling offense...
Did I hear wrong?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Get ready!
Lights out or HR King.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
The fans behind the plate
Holding out their hands for the foul ball? Maybe they were just goofing, but… they realize there’s a net there, right?
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
It's kind of like those fans...
who go for fair balls down the line and limit their own players to ground-rule doubles.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
So how come the Indians get the somewhat struggling Greinke...
…and we get this guy?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
his worst outing he gave up 2 runs
im just happy the Tigers had the lead at one point
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com
Damn!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Well... shoot
There’s the Lyon everyone still fears.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
BRANDON LYON
is………………the…………….FREAKIN WORST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lemme say it again...
I thought KC’s offense was struggling.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
it's ok
they’ve used up their allotted runs for the series
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
im hoping Greinke goes the distance
it gives Hillman a full bullpen to misuse tomorrow
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com
hey, if he saw what cleveland did yesterday
and then remembered who is in his bullpen … yeah, greinke better go CG
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we please stop hemhorraging runs?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
I WILL BE SO GLAD THE DAY
THIS PIECE OF GARBAGE LEAVES THE TIGERS
That home run definitely hurt
Probably killed any chance of a comeback.
But the Tigers are not losing this game because of Brandon Lyon.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You know....
This one’s gnawing at me more than most. We had the chance to make a real big statement. We had the chance to tell Zack Greinke to take his 0.85 ERA and shove it. We had the chance to beat him at his own game, and we blew it. Anyone else feel this way?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
Once again, double plays killed some good scoring chances
I agree with you. They had a chance to put Greinke on notice early in the game, and didn’t capitalize.
by Ian Casselberry on May 26, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
not really
win tomorrow, take the series and move on. So what if Greinke owns the Tigers. He’s owned the entire AL. But Grienke only comes around every 5th day
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com
I hate being mowed down no matter who the pitcher is.
It could be freakin’ Cy Young and I still wouldn’t like it. I think what I don’t like is that the Tigers DID have the lead for most of the game.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And then lost the lead, of course.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on May 26, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
he did what he does
I imagine some tigers pitchers drive other teams nuts by allowing a runner here or there then getting an easy grounder to erase them.
Take 2 of 3 tomorrow and move on to Baltimore. There’s worse things in life than losing to Greinke
by Kurt Mensching on May 26, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
A Royal ass-whipping
by one of the finest.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Well
The good news is we scored more than Greinkes ERA.
The bad news is his ERA is .85 and we scored 1.
I am glad
after reading all the posts, to see I am not the only one who hates BRANDON LYON> he’s a luuzzaaa…
Patty J >> the Detroitchik
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