Morning Prowl: Grandy Talks, Time for Clete, Power Rankings, and Tram Meets Foote
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 26, 2009 9:01 AM EDT
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It's Just Sports has an interview with Curtis Granderson. In addition to talking about his upcoming wine tasting/bachelor auction to benefit the Grand Kids Foundation, Grandy discusses college's role in his development as a professional athlete, baseball's unwritten rules, and why a certain 20-year-old pitcher isn't a part of the bachelor auction.
Mack Avenue Tigers looks at how Magglio Ordonez currently stacks up to his right fielder peers in the "five tools" categories. Is Maggs really as bad as he's looked at times this season? Do the numbers really say it all?
Is it time that Clete Thomas took Josh Anderson's place on the Tigers' roster? After Clete went 3-for-4 with two doubles for Toledo last night, Billfer says it is indeed. Thomas is 18-for-39 in his last 10 games with the Mud Hens.
Pat Caputo, however, thinks sending Clete down and calling up Don Kelly has been the Tigers' "best move of the season so far."
Are the Tigers about to play the Astros as Lance Berkman breaks out of his season-long slump? Maybe, says Richard Justice, but maybe he just had a good game yesterday.
If you're into the power rankings, you might like Tim Brown's over at Yahoo! Sports. The Tigers jumped up five spots in his latest rankings.
Jon Paul Morosi explains how the Tigers are handling Rick Porcello's workload, and the understanding between pitcher and manager over how long he'll pitch in a given ballgame this year. Morosi also compares this approach to how the Dodgers handled Clayton Kershaw last year.
Another stop Alan Trammell made while in town with the Cubs was to the Detroit Lions' mini-camp. New Lions linebacker Larry Foote was thrilled to meet one of his childhood heroes. (And did you know Dan Petry is the Lions' director of suite sales?)
Blake takes a moment from his U.S. tour to break down Joel Zumaya's numbers for June at The Spot Starters. As you might have guessed, Zoom's control has become a major problem.
Something else from It's Just Sports: Did you check out their "Best of the Worst Tigers" list from last week? What did you think of their #1 choice?
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Yes On Clete.....
…..Clete should be up and Anderson realeased……He would have to be released becuase hes out of options…..the only reason I might wait is simply becasue Anderson has above average speed…..However he doesnt have much of a bat and Kelly is left handed and has a better stick and eye at the plate…..Anderson speed is his asset but hes not hitting…..I say bring up Clete and let Anderson go
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 26, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't agree, but that's OK
I think we need his speed. Also, Magglio needs to showcase himself and right now he’s hitting again. But I love Clete and hope he’ll soon be back.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
by densogirl on Jun 26, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
we shoulf release Josh. Maybe some time in Toledo to work on his batting skills. Too much speed not to keep him around in some form. I would love to see Clete again and soon.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jun 26, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Josh is out of options
and some team might take a ringer if they try to get him through waivers.
Clete needs to be back at some point, but how the Tigers bring him back is the question. Because right now, I think it would be pretty hard to argue Anderson is contributing more than Kelly or Raburn.
by MackAveKurt on Jun 26, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup....
….I like Anderson but Kelly and Raburn deserve to be here more…..Anderson has above average speed but he doersnt hit well…..Its a tough call.
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 26, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that both Raburn and Kelly
are contributing WAY more than Josh. But to release him, well that just seems kind of harsh. And I am sure that I am very naive compared to most of the guy posters and I don’t want to pretend to know more than I do, so that being said can someone tell me why he should be released instead of sent down to brush up on the batting skills? I Wouldn’t be heartbroken if we did trade him for someone, but seems like ths is something that they would consider before letting him go.Also, I would really like to see a lineup that consists of all three of the other guys though, Raburn, Kelly, and Thomas.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jun 26, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Options
The problem is if they try to send him to the minors, he’d have to clear waivers (if he’s in fact out of options, which I believe he is). He may not, so trying to send him to the minors and releasing him could well be one and the same.
by mattintoledo on Jun 26, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.....
…..hes out of options……thats why we got him form Atlanta…..he was going to be put on waivers becasue hes out of options…..So we traded for him so we could get him…..he would have to clear to be sent down…..Dont think it would happen…..Just to many outfielders that are playing better.
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 26, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I get it
When you say he is “out of options”, you mean contract options, you’re not figuratively speaking of options. Sorry I don’t mean to sound like a dumbass. Usually if I ask questions, they will usually be about things like contract limits, waiver and things like that, because I get the mechanics of the game just fine…thanks guys :o)
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jun 26, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes contract options. To protect the player from being stashed in the minors for his entire career as an insurance policy, he has “option years” built in. You get three of those, then the player must clear waivers to be sent to the minor leagues. Anderson used all of his option years up with the Braves organization. So Detroit can’t send him to the minors without exposing him to the other MLB teams, who can claim him.
At this age though, I think Anderson is more-or-less the player he’s going to be in the major leagues. Useful in a role playing position, but kind of redundant in the Tigers organization. That and hes’ got incredible speed that he squanders with baserunning mental mistakes.
by MackAveKurt on Jun 26, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will not post on M Live.....
But, Bobby Higginson?! Is that a joke? And, I miss Nate Cornejo….where is that guy?
"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "
by Zappatista on Jun 26, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He wins on "most frustrating Tiger" for sure
but best of the worst? He doesn’t belong on that list
by MackAveKurt on Jun 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Ever Happened.....
…..To Kenny Baugh?…..I think he had shoulder problems but he went to Rice and won like 13 games one year at toledo…….And for that matter Kyle Sleeth……Those 2 guys were gonna be starters for years to come if I remember right???
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 26, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Injuries
Baugh did have shoulder problems and he never really recovered. His last season in the Detroit system was 2005.
Same with Sleeth. I think it went Tommy John, rough recovery with no control, Tommy John, more struggles, retirement.
by mattintoledo on Jun 26, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
think of the defensive gem he made to help save justin verlander’s no hitter. and uhm, keep thinking of that over and over.
by MackAveKurt on Jun 26, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where's Deivi Cruz on that list??
Finally remembered the name of the speedy centerfielder from the late 90s….Brian Hunter! He was certainly a frustrating Tiger, had a huge first year with the club in 1997 (112 runs, 74 steals…didn’t remember it being THAT good), and then dropped off the last couple of seasons he was in Detroit.
Can’t complain too much, though,they had a promo with him with if he stole a base, the next home game, the normally $4 bleacher seats would go for a buck. I went to my fair share of games in 1998 where I paid more in bus fare than I did to get into the old ballpark…
Heck, there were at least a couple of times where I did a major league baseball game for a total of $1. Lived close enough to walk to the park, didn’t get anything to drink or eat while I was there….these days, it’ll cost me ~$15 in gas money just to get to Milwaukee if I wanted to go to a game…
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by ahtrap on Jun 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wasn't Rick Perry part of Granderson's bachelor auction?
hope the Mud Hens have an off day on that date…
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by ahtrap on Jun 26, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What angle is Tram working?
Sure seems like he had a lot of photo ops this week, like maybe he wants Mr. I to notice him. Following directly on the heels of Leyland’s re-up I guess there’s probably nothing to it.
If he was laying groundwork for a year or two down the road, I’d certainly have no problem with it. Maybe another go round is in the cards. It just seems to me that he and his agent made a lot of quirky trips around town this week that got people talking.
There is no real point to this speculation. I don’t mean it to be anti-Tram. I just found it to be a little odd.
by cloud wall on Jun 26, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he's just feeling better about being fired now
Took a few years to get over it. Tram is too classy to throw a public tantrum, but you know it had to e disappointing to him to be let go by the Tigers organization, especially after all he had done for them through the years. Now he probably feels he can go back with his head held high. And it doesn’t hurt that he is highly thought of in Chicago (and throughout MLB) and knows he will manage again someday.
by NCDee on Jun 26, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, no Roger Cedeno?
Of all our disappointing Speedy Centerfielders, I had the highest hopes for Roger. Strange to find out on Wikipedia he’s only 35. Apparently his last go round was with the Orioles in 2007. Except he showed up weighing 274 (!) and things didn’t work out.
by cloud wall on Jun 26, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TRAM
My favorite player of all time, but yeah that picture of him peeking through the fence? who took that? would find it kind of weird if his agent took that and sent it to the media…who else would have took it tho? I highly doubt their was a photographer just chillin outside the green fence…
by PBURGTIGER on Jun 26, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A Detroit News photographer took the photo
My impression was that the local media knew Tram was going to check out the Tiger Stadium demolition site. Maybe that part of it was orchestrated by his agent. I mean, Tram could’ve headed over there in a much less public fashion.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 26, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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