Game 52: Red Sox at Tigers
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 4, 2009 12:30 PM EDT
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PrintBoston Red Sox at Detroit Tigers, Jun 4, 2009 1:05 PM EDT
Tim Wakefield (6-3, 4.55) vs. 
Dontrelle Willis (3-5, 5.50), 1:05 p.m. EST
Is Dontrelle Willis the one man standing between a Red Sox sweep at Comerica Park and a salvage win for the home team? That's what the Tigers are facing this afternoon in the finale to this three-game series.
The question, of course, is which D-Train will we see today? The one who's allowed three runs and eight hits in 13 innings in two home starts so far? Or the guy who served the baseball up on a tee in Baltimore last Friday night and got rocked for seven runs and 10 hits in five innings by the Orioles?
Boston might ask similar questions about their starting pitcher today. For one thing, you never know what you'll get with a knuckleballer. But after winning four of his first six starts, Tim Wakefield has given up five runs or more in three of his past four appearances. In his last outing, he was tagged for six runs and nine hits at Toronto, while also walking four batters in 4.2 innings. At Comerica Park, Wakefield is 3-3 with a 4.21 ERA in 10 career appearances (six starts).
With the day game after a night game, Placido Polanco and Gerald Laird are out of the lineup. Also, Ryan Raburn gets the start in left field, with Clete Thomas moving over to right, and Magglio Ordonez batting as the designated hitter. Could Maggs have a big game today? His average against Wakefield is .395/.452/.684 with two homers and eight RBIs in 41 plate appearances.
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gotta agree
he’s locating today, unlike the past start. Definitely bodes well
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wish I could be an actual Tiger today. I want to bat against Wakefield. I think I could get a hit.
Doubt It.....
……I faced aKnuckleballer in college and went 0 for 5
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet Wakefield could clean up at Cedar Point
with that guess the speed of your third pitch game. Just say 65. 65. 65. 65. He would have a batting helmet of the whole league.
Chet Lemon for the HOF
getting hits in the second inning
takes all the mystery out of the game. My afternoon is now ruined. Thanks Miggy
Chet Lemon for the HOF
What????
I’m watching on gamecast what happened?
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
As long as
he did drop like a sack of potatos and need to be carted off the field then I feel relatively safe it isn’t too serious.
by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 4, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Cabrera is probably done today
I’d be disappointed in the Tigers if they didn’t take him out. Looks like they probably will take him out.
Prolly Just A Cramp
Dont think they wana take any chances either way
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why Larish At 1st?????
….Put Raburn There….he can play it……why put a guy that isnt playing well in teh game…..Put raburn at 1st and Anderson in his spot in the OF
mostly right
raburn played 1 inning there in his career
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm so glad Wieters had his coming out party against Detroit
he has fueled fantastic jokes for the rest of the season
yeah, it's like chuck norris/mr.t jokes
mixed with baseball. My favorite Chuck Norris joke, btw…. Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only believes in the element of surprise.
Chet Lemon for the HOF
I would assume
couple weeks of being without him
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it
If this was a meaningful game in september, I’d bet he would still be in there. But I’m no doctor, and a pull is an early diagnosis. there are several degrees of severity.
Chet Lemon for the HOF
for the record
ESPN’s gametracker had all 4 of the pitches to Pedroia painting the corner!
by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 4, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
How can we continue putting the poor guy out there
Man alive, do I we wish we had ANY OTHER OPTION right now
moves for next week
Maybe I’m just in a bad mood (gee wonder why)
eat D-Train’s contract and DFA
Activate Bonderman
Promote Miner to the rotation
Put Galarraga in the pen
I know this is the last thing anyone wants to hear
but watching the pitch updates I just think Willis is getting screwed. Everything is in there or close, he’s just not getting any calls
by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 4, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
i agree....how do these pitches look on TV?
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Some were bad.....
…..But he got sueezed 4 or 5 times
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Adjust To What.....
…..I you aint getting calls you cant just throw it down the middle
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
that's exactly what you do
walk them in or let them smack it. at least down the middle you give the defense a slim chance to help.
well then you have some choices
keep walking in runs or put it where they can hit it and hope the defense does its job.
One assures runs score. The other doesn’t.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Did leyland get tossed for arguing balls and strikes?
by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 4, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
Willis has looked better against lefties....
Nate couldn’t even get Ortiz out….maybe Willis to the pen and cut Nate
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions
Jimmy goin on an extended smoke break.
I would punch a child square in the face, if it meant Leyland came back out with a fake moustache/disguise ala Bobby Valentine.
Chet Lemon for the HOF
Moments like this
are why Leyland always said he wanted Miner in the bullpen
by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 4, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
moments like this
wouldn’t occur if Miner was starting that day. He’s no ace but he’s a hell of a lot better than Dontrelle has been
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Come On.....
…….Miner has been well below average this year man
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Miner has a 9.69 ERA at home and he wasn't even charged right there obviously
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
he's just not a reliever
he always sucks as a reliever.
Started four games this year, gave up 1 run in two of those starts
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes He Did.....
……..I dont think it would have been any different with him starting though man
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I do....
…..I didnt say he looked great today…..Im just saying Miner sint any different then Willis….Id much rather have Willis starting then Miner
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Why Wouldnt I Stick By HIm.....
…..Ive always been a huge fan of his……You gota stick by guys you root for
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
chalk up another one in the loss column
the bullpen decides to throw gas on flames….i love how miner is a sinkerball pitcher who fears using his own sinkerball….he is such a pussy
Detroit Tigers= Epic Fail
To **** with this, GO WINGS!!!!!
Wow. I'm glad I wasn't around some of yous guys during Lions season
I would still be in therapy. yeeks
Chet Lemon for the HOF
Miner, Willis and Nate need to go.....i don't care if we have to call up Sammy Spanish
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone remember the story
Regarding Oil Can Boyd attempting a come back, I believe he is still available.
by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 4, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
My Boy Willis....
……Let me down…..I hate to say it but hes gota be movied to the Pen……I think we should pipck up Glavine
To High A Salary......
……I think Nate Would go down before Dontrelle
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
right now I could care less about either of them
Ilitch has to open the checkbook and write some nice going away presents
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Nate and Dontrelle both suck but I know Dontrelle is trying and I don’t think Nate is
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Id agree with that....
…..nate doesnt care…..You can see it on his face.
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously Though...
Galaragga keeps his job because we are at least in games when he pitches….he is a number 5 starter we just have to adjust to that. Put Willis in the pen…bring up Bondo for the rotation…call up Luke French……and dump Nate and Zach
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions
Dont be suprised.....
…….If we make a run at Glavine….he just got released by Atlanta
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah.....
…..Thise guys aint got anythign left
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
they wont dump nate because theyve already dumped sheffield and his 14 million
they wont dump more salary
Galarraga has not been bad recently...
He’s gone seven innings in his last two starts and has pitched fairly well. His mistakes are only magnified because he hasn’t gotten any run support. If the Tigers had won those games no one would be questioning whether or not he should be in the rotation. Still, I kinda believe he’s gonna get pushed out for purely logistical reasons (He’s starting in the doubleheader, it would be a shock if Bonderman doesn’t start the other one, and the Tigers will need another reliever for the rest of the series). And while my first choice by far is to let Armando remain in the rotation, I do NOT want to see him in the ’pen.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 4, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Attention Wal-Mart associates
Mr. Maroth, you have a phone call on line 2. Mr. Maroth, line 2.
Chet Lemon for the HOF
well....i guess we aren't going as far as we want then
you can let a sunk cost sink or you can let it sink you either way that money might as well be set on fire
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions
Will Carroll
is calling Cabrera’s injury a strain, not a pull.
Wouldn’t doubt he’s right and it was just announced wrong.
Pull and strain are the exact same thing
But don’t take it from me…I’m only an athletic trainer and physical therapist
We are in good shape come playoff time with.....
……JV and Edwin running out there……Just need one more guy to step up
He Had A No Hitter Going....
…..and they pulled him….thats good enough for me
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 4, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it does not count if you walk
the bases loaded and then walk a few more!!!!
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
if by trade
you mean “drop” dead weight, sure.
Because if we don’t want these overpaid dead weight guys, why would any other team?
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
We have two lefties
that NOBODY wants and their combined salaries could fund NASA…this sucks.
yeah see
the difference is that Nate wasn’t bad when he got his contract. (He was by no means worth it even then of course).
You’re trying to dump a bunch of high ERA, high priced guys now. not the same.
Someone may take a flier with them off waivers, but they’re not going to give up anything that will ever see the major leagues.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
oh
so you want to trade a guy on the DL, that’s not allowed. Plus you can’t trade for draft picks, this is the MLB.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
these cats make me wanna jump of my balcony
but I live on the ground floor. I’d be better served spitting in Chuck Norris’ face.
Chet Lemon for the HOF
I am now going to start a band
called The Shiggles. We will play drunk rock music in brown shirts and clown make-up, hence shits and giggles.
Chet Lemon for the HOF
Your only saying that
because this gaming is making me want to cut my ear off and scoop my eyes out with spoons!
by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 4, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
nothing like showing up late to this game thread… did I miss something? lol. sounds like the Tigers have just been eliminated from playoff contention. I do agree with alot of what has been said here, though. Maybe it is time to cut a few of them loose.
alwaysatiger.blogspot.com
dont blame the offense, 3 on wakefield through 4 is very good...and we lost Cabby
its the pitching today, if u can even call it that
I think
it’s because the Tigers traded the softball mentality for the pitching and defense mentality. Which in my mind is a good move
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
but that only works
on days when there is pitching… which lately is only 60% of the games
alwaysatiger.blogspot.com
because everyone besides Miggy, Granderson and Inge are too old or were never good to begin with
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
Twins killing Indians
Kubel has two 3-run bombs. Tribe announcers calling for Carmona’s head
alwaysatiger.blogspot.com
Carmona sucks
Started off a good prospect but they gotta move on.
Of course you could say that for several Indians. They really should be sellers. Keep V-Mart, Cliff Lee, Grady, but entertain offers for anythig else
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to see a good left-handed pitcher...
…but I can’t think of any who’d be available except Bedard, and he’s TOO expensive
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 4, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
good lefties
are not usually available. Lee and Bedard are the only two that come to mind and Lee is in the division. Maybe they try Luke French as a starter with the big club?
alwaysatiger.blogspot.com
Clete is killing me at leadoff....
Grandy is awesome in the 5 spot but Anderson should be leading off
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
thats not a diss on Clete he's just not a leadoff hitter
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I would like to see Grandy back at the 1-spot.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
boy that was fun
gotta love first pitch groundouts
Before I leave to go to the dentist...
…let me leave you with these uplifting thoughts:
- Verlander is starting tomorrow and is facing a badly struggling Ervin Santana.
- We’ve got Jackson going Saturday…enough said
- Bonderman will be back soon and there’s no way he can be any worse than Galarraga or Willis have been
- The draft is coming soon…new hope!
- It sounds like the Tigers are going to be heavily involved in trade talks so we have the opportunity to get another high-caliber player or two
- We are in the worst divison in the AL so anything can happen
Alright?
…and GO PEDROIA!!!
WATCH THE WINGS TONIGHT GAME 4…WE’RE GOING TO TAKE IT AND WRAP IT UP AT HOME!
This is the maddening part about Miner...
He imploded in the third and let a bunch of runners score, but has shut them down since (though I DO appreciate the zeros he’s putting up).
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
he does that alot
he’s better when starting the inning fresh. he has a bad habit of allowing all inherited runners to score
alwaysatiger.blogspot.com
With his short stature and odd facial features...
Pedroia looks like some sort of enchanted creature that you’d find in Lord of the Rings or something.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
Nope...
Definitely foul. But hey, it’s our first use of replay.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 4, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
wakefield pitches defy my understanding of physics
whatever happened to sparks? he was the tigers knuckleballer for awhile right?
i'm watching on Gamecast what happened?
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
foul ball HR
it was definitely foul, but they’re reviewing
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Larish hitting
.172 with .265OBP at the CoPa… those kinda numbers get you traded to Colorado, don’t they?
alwaysatiger.blogspot.com
Who are we trying to get from Colorado?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 4, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
we should be trying to get brad hawpe
but I haven’t actually heard of anything… It was a bad Jason Grilli reference
alwaysatiger.blogspot.com
Roster moves...
In all seriousness, I think it is time to bring in Bonderman cut ties with Dontrell, and send Miner down to Toledo and bring up someone… anyone.
I’m comfortable with Gallaraga as the #5 starter, but still a little worried about Porcello. If he is going ot be intimidated every time he faces the Yankees and Red Sox, then he might not do the Tigers a whole lot of good this coming September and October.
I understand hitting is harder at spacious CoPa but why can he only draw walks on the road?
by dtowntigers4life on Jun 4, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
Figures...
You hit a (barely) foul HR, then GIDP on the next pitch.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
Ahhhh, no
That bad Just For Men commercial with Emmit Smith is back!
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
By the way...
For those of you watching on TV, Wright State is NOT close to Toledo. It is in Dayton.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
I almost went to Wright State
…but decided on Denison University instead.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 4, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
no offense to our ohio friends
but as someone from michigan, i’d never refer to ohio as the “wright state” !
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
none taken
That line is not as good as “Kent Read, Kent Write, Kent State”, anyway
alwaysatiger.blogspot.com
wonder if that will help
the contacts thing didn’t seem to be working for him
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it really hot in Detroit today?
Miner has a calf cramp, Youkilis had a tight quad, Miggy’s got the pulled hamstring (which I know from personal experience hurts like hell). Is there a dehydration issue, or did guys not warm up today?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
Oh NO!
I just checked the box score from work, Miggy needs a ham sammidge!
Was it bad? Are we looking at a nagging injury?
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
He's supposed to be "evaluated tomorrow"
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 4, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Bryce Harper could help this offense find their stride. Has anyone seen this video?! This kid is ridiculous!!!
Matt Wieters will not stand for that
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 4, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind Matt Wieters...
…This kid is hitting 500’ bombs in competition at the age of 16! Barry Bonds won’t stand for that!!!
It's gotta be fake?!
I haven’t seen a sports vid that exciting since someone turned me on to the video of Simona Halep. This probably makes me the biggest creep on this site now, what with my apparent obsession with videos of teenagers. Creepy!
Is it really a Rally Squirrel?
Or has that rodent cursed this team?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 4, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cardinals had a rally squirrel last year
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 4, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The masquerade was fun while it lasted...
… but this team is finally showing their true colors. Things are gonna get UGLY with Cabrera out.
Well, I'm off to work...
Hopefully things’ll get wrapped up on my way there.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
And no more walks, please.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 4, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Have I mentioned lately how much I love closers from my fantasy team
coming in in non-save situations?
Chet Lemon for the HOF
is that some alternative swear word in code?
When me and my brother were teens, we’d refer to jackasses we’d run across as “Mr Garcia”, because of the Blue Jays’ Damaso Garcia….we just transalliterated his first name into “dumb asshole” and used the last name as code….
would love a little league re-entry rule
bring in Cabrera in a couple batters for the walk off (literally)
And here comes Cabrera...
…with two bad knees! crowd goes wild, Miggy is fist pumping around the bases “I don’t believe what I just saw!”
I blame that diving play on tagne
for saying “Go Pedroia” before leaving… what the heck was that all about
Hey in the United States of America
we are allowed to be fans of players other than just only the ones on our own teams.
Don’t tell me you’re not a fan of any other player in the MLB other than a Tiger.
are you navigating away from the page?
I think the latest SB Nation upgrade included some performance updates where if you’re not on the page itself, it’s not loading comments until you click back on to the page…
i was gonna say, Placido walk’s here, and then a walk off slam, but then I noticed Laird is up next…
Is it safe to say
that the Rally Squirrel is actually an evil, RedSox supporting, rally killer?
If so, we know where he lives…
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