Game 53: Angels at Tigers
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 6:30 PM EDT
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PrintLos Angeles Angels at Detroit Tigers, Jun 5, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Ervin Santana (0-2, 9.20) vs. 
Justin Verlander (6-2, 3.63), 7:05 p.m. EST
With the Red Sox sweeping their way out of town, the Detroit Tigers try to get back to winning time with an AL West team coming into Comerica Park for the weekend. Against the west this season, Detroit is 12-3. Two of those losses, however, were to this Angels team out in Anaheim. But I don't think the Tigers were pitching as well back then as they are now. Of course, you could also say they were hitting better back in late April, as well.
Since recovering from a strained elbow that put him on the DL, Ervin Santana started off with two strong performances, but really struggled in his past two starts. In his last 6.1 innings, he's allowed 15 runs and 21 hits (three of them homers). And one of those games was against Seattle, which we know is not an offensive juggernaut.
Santana actually made major progress last season toward correcting what was one of the more brutal road splits (10-22 record) for a starting pitcher. It's too soon to tell if he'll maintain that pattern this season, but just for conversation's sake, let's mention that Santana is 2-2 with a 7.17 ERA in four career starts at Comerica Park.
Justin Verlander was knocked around by an opposing lineup for the first time in seven starts last weekend, giving up nine hits (and three runs) to the Orioles. The only other team to get nine hits against Verlander this season? The Los Angeles of Anaheim, in what was probably Verlander's worst start of the year. Maybe you remember him sitting in the dugout with a stunned look of disbelief on his face, after letting the game get away in the fifth inning.
Since that game, however, Verlander has been outstanding, winning seven of eight starts. (And in the game he didn't win, he ended up with a no-decision.) They don't just hand that AL Pitcher of the Month award out to anyone, you see. He'll likely have to pitch well to add to that win total tonight, however. Because his manager isn't exactly helping him out with the lineup he's put together.
Miguel Cabrera is sitting out as a precaution, to rest that hamstring he tweaked yesterday. That puts Magglio Ordonez at the clean-up spot as the designated hitter, while Jeff Larish gets the start at first base. Josh Anderson leads off, playing left field, while Clete Thomas bats third, as the right fielder.
Halos Heaven has your SB Nation opposing view for this weekend's series.
UPDATE: Here are your starting lineups:
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Let's play nice this evening
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
no rain, no rainbow!
philosophy to live by
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 5, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Love the look on Eeyore's face
What’s in that grass he’s been eating?
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Only if I can block BennieBlades' posts
If someone knows how to do this, fill me in. You can do it on other forums, why not here?
I still have a stuffed Pooh bear ...
… that I got from grandparents for my very first Christmas. He’s almost 40 years old now, but still has all his stuffing. :)
"A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature replaces it with." -- Tennessee Williams
I’m quiet because there’s another half hour or so to go in “The Third Man” on TCM. Damn Orson Welles was a handsome dude in his youth.
I've found a soulmate!
You actually watch TCM? Love those old movies, and yes, he was very handsome.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
some men should not wear dreds
It looks like a poodle is trying to escape from Vlad’s batting helmet.
"A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature replaces it with." -- Tennessee Williams
There’s a close-up. Yep, that’s not some nose ring thing.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
A golden booger.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I may be the Bennie Blades fan of Bondo
I’m looking forward to his start. I think he can come back and be a great number four (or three depending if Porcello can keep it up).
I root for the Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings and yes, the Lions.
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Let me clarify
I don’t think he’ll be great in his first start, but by number 3 or 4, I think he’ll come around.
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White Sox will be a tough start
Too bad the schedule didn’t allow the Tigers to wait for, say, Pittsburgh.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Now watch Santana face the minimum amount of batters.
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Ok, who had Lyle in the pool?
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Off topic...Anyone ever been to Puerto Rico before?
going on a cruise next week, will have a day or two in San Juan before I get on the boat, wonder if there’s anything I should see/do?
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Will they be playing "El Beisbol" in San Juan?
Not sure your wife would be thrilled with that, though.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
no i dont think she going near anything that doesnt have "Playa" in it
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Has Santana's nose not stopped bleeding yet?
I mean, seriously. I’ve had nosebleeds before… not 45 minute nosebleeds
He's allergic to squirrels.
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Maybe he likes the way he’s throwing with the cotton in there.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
at least they have a lot of strikeouts
Oh, wait, that’s only good for Verlander. Whoops.
"A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature replaces it with." -- Tennessee Williams
I would think
He loses at-bats or is sent down once Thames returns.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
when we sign grilli
we will need to open a roster spot
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
Hellz yeah
IIRC, his Batting Average when he was here was around .850. Although, to be honest, that may have been his Batting Average against.
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
the splits show
he’s a better option than raburn is. which is to say, either way they’re screwed.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 5, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand all the hatred towards Larish?
he’s not hitting any worse than Anderson or Thomas, and he has the ability to hit for power unlike the other two… maybe i’m missing something, but he’s not the only guy not neccissarily hitting well right now.
But, to be fair
his hair is fabulous
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
wishful thinking but dump the marlboro man and throw a chunk of cash at scioscia. could be fun in tiger town
I would love to see the Tigers play a more NL type game
Bunting, forcing guys over, squeezes, sacrificing outs for runs.
To me, this is baseball. Not the “OK, swing as hard as you can and see if you can hit a home run.”
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At one point
This team was playing that way. Not sure when exactly they got away from that.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
they were doing well when they forced the issue. because lord knows, this team isn’t going to hit the long ball
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 5, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Still facing the minimum.
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Maybe talking about it will prevent it from happening.
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Swervin Ervin looks like
the closer from Ole Miss, if anyone watched that CWS game earlier. Dude broke his nose before the game, and then pitched 3 innings with cotton in both nostrils, until the 12th, when he unclogged one nostril, and had blood gushing down his face.
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
First off, the Anderson pickoff- epic fail.
And wow does Jeff Larish suck. What exactly do they see in him? What a scrub. These bumbling idiots with the bats in their hands can feel free to make Santana work ANY ****ING TIME NOW.
well let me ask you this
who else can play first base on this team who is on the bench? Raburn? he’s played one inning and his splits are bad against right handers. Larish has both been a first baseman and has good splits against righties.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 5, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Marcus Thames
He was being groomed for it and they might do well to consider it since he’s constantly getting hurt in the OF and really isn’t that good out there (imo).
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I don't know the rules
But they can’t replay that?
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I'm sure Roy Halladay has a huge grin on his face
“Who’s the AL CY Young winner now???”
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I was so skeptical
when we first signed Laird. seemed to me like another past his prime catcher and quite a defensive downgrade from pudge. He has been nothing but fantastic. really managing the pitching staff well, shutting down the running game, and getting timely hits. Good pickup DD.
allright Mags
Good eye, good eye, kiss that ball good-bye! Woooooo!
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
Yeah
But a lined shot and doubling up is still in play.
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FIDP possibility intact
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
If he still thinks he is the best defensive centerfielder (and he does)
He should have caught that.
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Rod was very diplomatic about calling him slow just now.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless there is a no in front of it.
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Not if Larish strikes out.
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Well....
…..Willis will get one more start next week because they have 8 games
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 5, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
no guarantee of that
they could go with Miner, they could go with a starter from Toledo.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 5, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
True...
…..I think Leyland gives him one more
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 5, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.....
……Just didnt wana say it
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 5, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew it would have to happen eventually
no one is that perfect. Go figrure it’s an AL East team
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 5, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson hits a shot.....
……no breaks either
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 5, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Two offensive players are the leading candidates for players of the game? You’re better than that, fans; at least I hope so.
didn't realize we were watching a high school game
though inge’s throw does make me wonder
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 5, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And Verlander is gonna take the loss?
That’s really a fate he deserves. This team will be out of first within a week.
called that shizz
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
For me...
… that will take Inge off the hook for his gaffe. I’m still pissed beyond description at the offense as a whole though.
Bring in Sardinha to pinch hit
The ’Napple is due
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
With Everett leading off!?
Oh snap!!!! Here we go!!!
Baseball seasons are full of ups and downs
I know the offense hasn’t been showing up lately, but JV has pitched a hell of a game, and our defense has looked good for the most part as well. Two weeks ago we were filling these threads with comments about how much we loved how this team was built. Nothing has changed with this team, and now the threads are filled with comments calling for the heads of half the team. I gaurantee that the offense will come around and this team will dominate games and even series’ again this year. We still have an excellent chance to win this game, this series, and even this division. On April 1st we all would have jumped at the chance to be in 1st place on june 5th. I totally understand being frustrated from time to time, but I’m still extremely happy with this team overall. Let’s keep our chins up Tiger fans. Just trying to bring a little perspective to all the negative comments lately.
Trade Maggs
I have been hearing the last couple of days that the Cardinals are in need of another bat, as they want protection for Pujols. They are looking at Matt Holliday. Why not the Tigers trade Maggs to the Cards?
Was late because I watched the past two hours in my recliner
Just re-read some of the old posts from the therapy session etc. Happy to be a part of this community where people can take responsibility for themselves, man up, and apologize for personal attacks. This is one of the friendlier websites/game(s) threads I’ve ever been a part of and I’m happy it’s a Tigers one. We got a good group here and we just need to stick together. We won’t always agree but there are ways to disagree without calling people 9 year old girls (that is unless, you really are a 9 year old girl). Sometimes I frustrate the hell out of people and sometimes you people frustrate me, but I’d like to think we’re all friends because we have the greatest thing in common: the Tigers. Go Tags!
Swinging first pitch, G-$?
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
DFA Inge
He shoulda had that
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
ok so
cant get espn gamecast to work cant get gameday audio to work is someone trying to tell me not to watch this game?
by which you mean
rodney gives up a run and the tiger score two, thus giving us a whiplash of emotions ending with happy?
::dreams on::
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 5, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we've got a disagreement here
It’s OK, I’ll get over it. I love the squirrel, but he looks like a SAD SQUIRREL.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I was thinking we could just flip the squirrel the other way
and put RALLY
so depending on the situation.. he could be good or bad :)
Help us, explosivo
You’re our only hope. :-)
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
ok I am not giving up,..
Leaving it up to BYB to tell me what the hell is going on with the TIgers? Rodney blowing it, or already blew it?
Finally!!!!! I had been thinkin to myself,
I said self, “who could pull us out of this mess?” And I answered “Brandon F’N Lyon”
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
You know Rodney
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
2 on, no outs!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Too late!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Is it bad that when I walk into the drug store on gamedays
The pharmacist says “The usual?” and hands me some valium and a 12 pack? I really oughta look into that.
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
You said it yourself, buddy
10 straight scoreless innings.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
To save the 0-0 tie
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Can I go curl up in the fetal position somewhere?
I HATE games like these.
Why could we do NOTHING against Santana and his 9.50 ERA? Why are we able to accomplish the first part of small ball but not the second part? Why does Rodney not come through when we need him?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
Easy On Rodney.....
…..Non save situation……Closers sruggle when ots not a save sitaution
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 5, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
closers also
tend to pitch the ninth inning at home in a tie game.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 5, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I know.....
…..but Rodney Struggles in non save sitautions……yet he stil puts him in
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 5, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
none taken
lol
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
Chuckle, chuckle
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
The cruelest part of this is...
…that Yahoo Sports Gametracker said the game was already into the middle of the ninth scoreless. It was only when I couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t updating that I realized it was wrong.
by Todd Jones Save Manual on Jun 5, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
I have to wonder
if the quality of our squirrel picture is what’s hurting us. Is he not an accurate enough squirrel? Check this one out for comparison.
http://www.outincenterfield.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/squirrel-300×225.jpg
Yeah, their squirrel pic was much better quality
I need to get a better TV.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
1-Out Triple
I’m not the least bit excited. Not on this night
WHAT TIME IS IT??????
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
Don't hurt the hamstring, Miggy...
This game ain’t worth that.
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woooo rally squirrel
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
Bye Santana! Play him off keyboard cat
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
well keyboard cat is bad luck
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
Thanks for dragging it out and trying to make it more painful boys
Better luck tomorrow, losers. Thanks again for doing your jobs.
So...
Santana comes in with an ERA over 9 and looks like freakin’ Cy Young. WTF?
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maybe a little bit, in the eyes mostly
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
The other thing...
I was routinely told that Santana’s velocity was WAY down around 90, and yet he was routinely at 94-95. So apparently the Tigers offense causes velocity to come back?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 5, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
46-18
Our record against the Angels since 2002. EPIC FAIL
And therein lies the reason...
I’m glad the Tigers aren’t in the West
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 5, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Good thing there aren't comments of the day anymore
People wouldn’t be able to read this site at work
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
Hey now - they're still there
Just too frustrated to post one yesterday
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay
I was worried for a second
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 5, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
It’s kind of a moot point to pick and choose from the 3 that didn’t contain expletives. lol
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Note to self:
“Post Comment of the Night in recap”
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry guys
it’s only June 5th. These swoons are bound to happen, and every team goes through them. The bats have to heat up. Right?
Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.
So far, we've lucked out...
Greinke got blasted tonight by the Blue Jays (7 runs, including 2 home runs)
Indians lead White Sox 5-0
Twins haven’t started yet, but they’ll be up against Felix Hernandez, so it’s the best possible scenario, considering the circumstances
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 5, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The ironic thing:
The difference ended up being a run that scored on a ground ball hit TOO weakly to turn two.
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hey guys
remember 2006 when we won the World Series? ;-) The Cardinals were a .500 team that year. All we need to do is get in the post season. Obviously you want your team playing solid baseball, but I wouldn’t start mixing your Zoloft prescription with a 5th of Jack quite yet. As someone said before, it’s June 5th.
I'm starting to think...
…that the squirrel is really the Cardinals’ Rally Squirrel come to sabotage us in advance of the Tigers’ series against them.
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just saw the highlight
How did Figgins catch that ball?
Where were the fans to take it away from him?
Cmon guys that’s unacceptable, ethical or not!
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