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Game 55: Angels at Tigers

Los Angeles Angels at Detroit Tigers, Jun 7, 2009 1:05 PM EDT


  Joe Saunders (6-4, 3.77) vs.   Rick Porcello (6-4, 3.70), 1:05 p.m. EST

With their four-game losing streak broken, the Tigers go for the series win over Anaheim this afternoon.  And they'll have a familiar face back to help them with that.  Marcus Thames returns to Detroit's lineup after missing almost two months with a strained rib cage.  For a team in need some power, he's coming back just at the right time.  Your team needs you, Marcus.  Bring the thunder.

Maybe we can't expect Thames to swing a big stick right away, but this is his time of year.  In the month of June, Thames has a .258/.299/.581 average with 22 homers and 47 RBIs in 248 plate appearances.  He also has a good history against today's starting pitcher for LAAnaheim.  Last May, Thames hit two home runs off Joe Saunders in Anaheim. 

Saunders is also coming off his worst performance of the season, giving up six runs and nine hits over 5.1 innings versus Toronto.  He's lost three of his past four starts, allowing 16 runs in his last 24.1 innings.  In five career appearances against the Tigers, Saunders has an 0-1 record and 5.28 ERA.  However, he's pitched quite well at Comerica Park, posting a 2.63 ERA in two starts.

For the Tigers, Rick Porcello saw his five-game winning streak come to an end in his last start, as the Red Sox tagged him for three runs and eight hits in 4.1 innings.  He actually didn't pitch that badly, but when he left pitches up in the zone, Boston hitters crushed them.  But maybe Porcello just has a problem against AL East teams, as three of his four losses have come against teams from that division.  Say, what division do the Angels play in?

Miguel Cabrera is back in the lineup, which should ease any concerns over who would play first base today.  And Jim Leyland didn't waste any time in putting Thames right in the heart of the batting order.  Here are today's starters:



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Drew Sharp at the Free Press

got on the “Cut Magglio” bandwagon today I see. That’s a wierd request for a guy who is hitting .350 in the past month. Granted he only has 9rbi, but if the Tigers had been on base more in the past month those numbers would be higher.

What are others thoughts on Maggs and the potential two years on his contract?

by SkylineSeats on Jun 7, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll try to post something on this tomorrow

But I feel like the Tigers are stuck with Maggs. And they knew it would probably come to this when they signed him to this contract in the first place. And I don’t feel like he’s played so badly that the Tigers have no choice but to release him.

(Plus, as Billfer brings up today, such a move might get the Tigers in trouble with the players’ association.)

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 7, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those trigger clauses in his contract are scary

There is no way he is worth $18m next season with numbers like he has this year. Tigs are in a tough spot. I’d hate to see Maggs cut because he has been hitting well lately (and all that he’s done in a Tigers uniform).

Can you restructure baseball contracts?

by explosivo2k2 on Jun 7, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was reading up on the Glavine situation

and you can’t release a guy because of contract reasons apparently. It has to be business (which to me would include contract reasons). So they’d have to have good cause for releasing Maggs other than the contract… based on what I’m reading about the Glavine situation

by Detroit4lyfe on Jun 7, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the excerpt

Players cannot be released by their teams due to financial reasons, according to the collective-bargaining agreement. Glavine was set to receive a $1 million bonus once he made the major-league roster, another $1.25 million for 30 days on the roster and another $1.25 million for 90 days on the roster.

by Detroit4lyfe on Jun 7, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Braves can probably make a pretty good argument that Glavine wasn’t helping them win this year, regardless of his contract.

What were they expected to do, keep starting a 5.50 ERA pitcher? keep him in the bullpen?

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don't think he has any shot at winning an agrievance case

I was mainly just trying to point out that first sentence in terms of the Magglio talk

by Detroit4lyfe on Jun 7, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

I think Maggs has a much better case that he’s still a top contributer

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which.

Ian, what are you doing for the doubleheader this week? One big game thread or one for the afternoon, one for the evening.

I root for the Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings and yes, the Lions.
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by ReichardZ on Jun 7, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since it's a day-night affair

There will be two GameThreads, one for each game.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 7, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like today's batting order

I like Grandy getting more at bats by leading off.

Of course outfield defense suffers a bit with Thomas and Anderson out.

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Grandy getting more at bats, too

but he does hit quite well at the 5-spot (thus far)… .955 OPS

by TMadison25 on Jun 7, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apologies for the double posting

I had a draft saved this morning, but for whatever reason, it wasn’t showing up on the dashboard. So I typed it up again and posted it at 12:45. Then the original draft goes up at 1 p.m. Go figure.

Sorry for any confusion there (along with any deleted comments in that other post).

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 7, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Tigers offense is overdue...

…hopefully this will just be a slugfest with the Tigs coming out on top.

by Mushy on Jun 7, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

great thing about Rick

like Edwin yesterday, he’ll probably recover. Hopefully he continues to show that poise

by Detroit4lyfe on Jun 7, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

He's done nothing to prove otherwise so far.

A big inning for the Tigers will go a long way to giving Rick some confidence.

by Mushy on Jun 7, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about one of those...

…chase the starting pitcher from the game in the first type innings?!

by Mushy on Jun 7, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Chone Figgins?

Porcello has had an interesting (and by that, I mean aggravating) tendency to allow home runs to non-home run hitters this year.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 7, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

A Polanco HR would be fitting.

Especially considering Chone got one. At least that guy is on my fantasy team!

by Mushy on Jun 7, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Hit a home run

And you can take your time around the bases.

by NCDee on Jun 7, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Very nice!!!

Detroit loves them some Brandon Inge!

by Mushy on Jun 7, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Abreu got dinged on that one.

His voice is probably acouple octaves higher now

by NCDee on Jun 7, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know what it is...

…but I can’t stand Ryan Raburn (as a player, I obviously don’t know the man personally). He just reminds me of the guys that were being called up during the ’04 season.

by Mushy on Jun 7, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

im disappointed at raburn there

at least take some pitches…we should have gotten more

by RudeMood19 on Jun 7, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Statement inning.

It’s big to come back and make the opposing pitcher work, get some runs back and let Rick do his thing.

by Mushy on Jun 7, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright

There’s some old school Polanco there

by explosivo2k2 on Jun 7, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Rick is going to have to be caerful about keeping the ball down

It’s only starting to heat up and that ball is really flying when they hit it in the air these past two starts

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Magglio's response to release tal

Via Hawkins’ blog:

Sitting in front of his locker in the Comerica Park clubhouse late Saturday afternoon, Ordonez could only smile and shake his head when he heard the news.
        "I’m finished?" he asked incredulously. "I’m released?
        "Maybe, every day, when I come to the ballpark, I should wave my arms and say, ‘Here I am.’ "

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Bases loaded

This is where Everett excels!

by Tagne13 on Jun 7, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

i think that was the most shocking play of the year

wasn’t it like an 8 pitch at-bat and boom, grand slam haha

by RudeMood19 on Jun 7, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

it was this season’s version of Sardinha’s triple

by Ohio Tiger on Jun 7, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please keep callin' him out...

…every time I’ve done it this season he’s come up HUGE!

by Mushy on Jun 7, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

still nervous about Cabs

I don’t like him being in there running so gingerly… a pulled hammy becomes torn that much easier obviously

by Detroit4lyfe on Jun 7, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Having him around in July and August seems a little more critical than winning a series in June.

by Mushy on Jun 7, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooh, tough call

I’d say Teixeira, unless he’s the Yanks’ top candidate.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

tigers fans can vote all they want, rod

can’t overcome Red Sox Nation.

At least Youk is deserving of being an All-Star, anyway

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm going to go out on a limb here

Cabrera may be headed to the DL… they have to make that bad boy’s hamstring right. We can’t have him 70% even though I’ll take a 70% Cabrera over 100% someone else on this team on most days ….

by Detroit4lyfe on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

We saw what a liability he can be on defense with that bad hammy, too.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 7, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are they even risking it with Cabrera anyway?

It’s so not worth it, even if we are struggling for runs right now.

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by VivaTigres on Jun 7, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Cleveland

Wow, I barely recognize any of the names in their lineup anymore. Crowe? Valbuena? Gimenez?

by Tagne13 on Jun 7, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta go

on the bump in an old man’s league. help the Tags pull this one out. Later

by Detroit4lyfe on Jun 7, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I am sort of surprised he is still out there

Hopefully he’ll make a mistake to Maggs (assuming Maggs takes enough pitches for that to happen).

by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 7, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Print it now, save it, memorize it, I don't care

I’m officially saying Halladay will win the Cy Young this year.

by Tagne13 on Jun 7, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I can see it

I feel as if he consistently gets 2nd or 3rd place in the voting, besides for the year he won it.

by TMadison25 on Jun 7, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That make's me kind of sick to my stomach

Were facing a guy who has already thrown over 100 pitches, we have Grandy, Polanco and Maggs come up, and less than 10 pitches latter it’s a one-two-three inning! That’s awful.

by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 7, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Any chance that

Rick Knapp is a hitting coach, too?

by TMadison25 on Jun 7, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

hello, friends! I see we have a ballgame going!

by wepri31 on Jun 7, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

in other MLB action

The White Soxes are losing 4-0. Oh how I hate the White Soxes! The local media here is expecting them to be in first place following next week’s 5 game set. It literally makes me sick. I sometimes wonder if people even realize the Tigers are in first place and haven’t even been playing up to their potential.

by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 7, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

However

Chipper Jones thus far: 3/3, 2 R, 5 RBI, 2 HR, 1 3B

by Tagne13 on Jun 7, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoooo

but boney, please don’t remove anything else

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

contreras vs. bondo

will be a battle between two players looking to rebound

by Motown'sFinest on Jun 7, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm

Okay, we have some confusion. It looked like Buehrle was going in that first game. And if it’s his turn, I don’t know why Ozzie wouldn’t start him against the Tigers.

Guess we’ll soon find out.

by Ian Casselberry on Jun 7, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you serious!

I knew that Bondo was scheduled to play the night game but are we really going to get Contreras! I am already so excited that I won’t be able to sleep tonight!

by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 7, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you gotta go, you gotta go.

by wepri31 on Jun 7, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Why...

… do these guys insist on walking the leadoff guy every time they play the Angels!? Deathwish?

by BigDaddyJC on Jun 7, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

after the past two weeks

i’d like an uninteresting one again.

let me addend that.

uninteresting because Tigers are winning. Not uninteresting because you’re losing by 10.

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Joel when he’s happy like that.

by wepri31 on Jun 7, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

zoooming

average pitch speed is above 100 for 15 four seamers, gameday shows

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I was waiting...

…for that guy to throw back the ground-rule double

by Tagne13 on Jun 7, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

There went the happy feeling.

by wepri31 on Jun 7, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Fan-****ing-tastic

Isn’t that just excellent. Unbelievable

by BigDaddyJC on Jun 7, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

SERIOUSLY

That was 5 pitches in the strike zone!

by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 7, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Pondering...

… how many pitches it will take the Angels to retire the side in the bottom half. 7 or 8 maybe?

by BigDaddyJC on Jun 7, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like I got here just in time

I may be a curse. I didnt watch the Tigers or wings yesterday,and look what happens.

Matt Wieters Picked Himself To Be The Best Man At His Wedding. It Was His Only Option.

by YakAttack on Jun 7, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

the striek zone map

Those two balls in the zone were zumaya’s that walked in the run

by Kurt Mensching on Jun 7, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Come On Grandy

I for 5 sounds really good right about now!

by tigerfaninChicago on Jun 7, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

There is no “right time” for the Tigers to catch the White Sox.

by BigDaddyJC on Jun 7, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

OH SNAP!

nice throw there buddy

by Tagne13 on Jun 7, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

RABURN, fuck yeah!

by wepri31 on Jun 7, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

It's times like these

I miss a good ol’ Gary Sheffield pop-up

by Tagne13 on Jun 7, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I know what Gene said to Clete….
“Hit the ball, Slugger!”

by wepri31 on Jun 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

ooooooooooooooooh man!

by wepri31 on Jun 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m a little turned on by Clete Thomas right now.

by wepri31 on Jun 7, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, that was the comment of the day if you ask me.

by explosivo2k2 on Jun 7, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

GAME OVER!

:D :D :D :D :D :D

WHOOOOOO!!!!!

by Kmann on Jun 7, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Not cool dude

It ain’t over ‘til it’s over

by BigDaddyJC on Jun 7, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

there’s still another inning there big guy…it’s a non-save situation

Go Tigers!

by Tagne13 on Jun 7, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was awesome

gene lamont must have said something like “if you don’t hit it, you’re going back down” haha

by RudeMood19 on Jun 7, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

The Cult of Clete

Greetings from Germany. Dirk

by Germantiger on Jun 7, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

It was over

Sorry, but a Grand Slam by Clete is a death sentence.

by Kmann on Jun 7, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just got home from work

and checked in to see the score. Wow! Glad I DVR’d this one. Still enjoying the afterglow of Mr. Jackson’s gem last night and now Cletus gets a GS? It just doesn’t get much better than the past 2 days.

"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti

by densogirl on Jun 7, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

That was

an OUTSTANDING game today…awesome shot by Clete to save the day!!!

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jun 7, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Tigers steal one.

Was at the game today, and it was one of those wins that probably shouldn’t have been a win, but you’re happy to have it.

Loved them getting 2 back in the 1st instead of rolling over. Although I was wishing they’d sent the runner on Thames’ single. From our seats, it looked like a close play at best, and given that Saunders did not look good there’d be more scoring chances to come. I also felt that getting thrown out at home would be less bad than getting no runs with the bases loaded. Then Inge went and made it moot (which I’m fine with, because he’s on my main roto team).

Loved seeing Porcello settle down and finish the 5th with 81 pitches

Not a big fan of the IBB to Izturis. It’s not like he that much better than Kendrick, and I don’t know if the “benefit” of having a force anywhere is worth the “risk” of not having wiggle room without walking in a run.

I came out of my seat in frustration when they didn’t send Rayburn on Polanco’s fly out. Matthews Jr. doesn’t have a cannon, Napoli had just come into the game, and even if Rayburn is thrown out you have Maggs, Clete and Marcus in the 9th to get (what you hope is) one run. The number of times bluffing from third generates an error that allows you to score or Maggs produces a 2-out RBI vs. ending the inning anyway, IMO, calls for sending Rayburn and “making something happen” that way.

But Kendry Morales made a dumb play and it cost the Angels a run, and left the door open for Clete to hit his rope onto the bullpen roof.

End result is a happy one, the good guys get a W that felt more like the Angels lost the game, but it’s still the 30th win on the year.

by dannimal on Jun 7, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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