Game 58: Tigers at White Sox
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 9, 2009 7:30 PM EDT
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PrintDetroit Tigers at Chicago White Sox, Jun 9, 2009 8:11 PM EDT
Dontrelle Willis (1-3, 6.84) vs. 
Mark Buehrle (6-2, 2.91), 8:11 p.m. EST
With the Tigers and White Sox splitting yesterday's doubleheader, we now basically have a three-game series. And it's beginning with what looks like a starting pitching mismatch.
I realize I was harsh on Dontrelle Willis after his last start, but still feel that the Tigers cannot afford to keep him in the starting rotation. Obviously, I hope the D-Train proves me wrong. He seems like a great guy who his teammates love, he answers for himself after pitching badly, and it would be nice to see him succeed because it's been so painful to watch him fail.
(And it's even more uncomfortable to read writers like Joe Lapointe and Dan Shaughnessy describe Willis's fidgety physical behavior while answering questions, inferring that there might be problems that extend beyond baseball.)
Can Willis pitch worse than he did last week against Boston? It's difficult to imagine, considering he gave up five runs without allowing a hit. But as was argued in that day's GameThread and recap, Willis didn't miss wildly out of the strike zone. Different calls on a few pitches might have made a big difference, but he clearly let that get to him. And U.S. Cellular Field isn't a ballpark that often allows struggling pitchers to escape any mistakes.
Starting for the White Sox this evening, Mark Buehrle might be the starting pitcher on the All-Tigers Killer team. A month ago, he faced the Tigers in Chicago and held them to one hit over eight innings. (It was the most dominating performance against them since, uh, last night.) In 26 career starts against Detroit, Buehrle has a 14-8 record and 2.86 ERA. He kind of owns the Tigers.
Here are your starting lineups:
EDIT: Oh, and... GO WINGS!
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Yup....
…..We struggle against Buhrele
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 9, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
ok so I don't normally watch jimmy fallon
but it was on and did anyone see Mark Paul Gosseler pretending to be Zach for the entire interview? that was awesome.
I read a bunch of Tweets about that this morning
Have to go back and watch it.
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Has he found the fountain of youth
or did he just stay away from the party powder over the years.
I know
it looked just like teenage zach. maybe it was the haircut, clothes and a lot of makeup? it was sweet.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Why must WIllis
ALWAYS pitch during Wings games?
hey, we'd all love a great game
if he threw a shutout, it would make us all happy i’m sure. it better anyway.
just, you know, don’t go so overboard making excuses if he struggles, please?
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No way hes throws shut out
I havent made excuses just observations
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 9, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
he took, waht was it, a perfect game? into the 7th against the Tigers if I recall
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
m-a Fleury
is gonna get lit like a fratboy at a dave mathews concert*
*not a good thing.
fer chrissakes, Maggs
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Can we cue the shirt this early Ian?
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
Who's warming up?
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
What the?
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
to suck his thumb?
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Out!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Well, that's the end of it!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
wild pitch, run scores
dontrelle got up slow, then struck out thome
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I was serious...
referring to recovering with the K.
wild pitch
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
He shouldnt even have been on base....
….was out stealing 2nd
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 9, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You think the shift had something to do with that?
Podsednik had a HUGE lead cuz Brandon Inge was nowhere near him. With the way the ball bounced right back to Laird, most runners would be out easily.
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you're gonig to want to text
Tigers 33
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Or...
Tigers 15
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't look as hobbled...
but his at-bat didn’t last very long, so it was hard to tell.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think it looks like a very weak swing
And he’s on his heels.
Inge!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I would have said that for games 3 and 4 too though...
I get scary in Pitt this series.
THAT DATSYUK MOVE WAS NUTS
too bad it ended up in a save
ha
I don’t think leyland would let it get that far
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
With that name
he should be playing soccer.
you know
there will be a “bend it” joke if a hard hit slices foul
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna want a Bollywood tune
when he heads to the plate if that’s the case.
Is it terrible for me to say...
…that I want Dontrelle to pitch well tonight cuz they’re headed into National League parks and he’s a better hitter than Bonderman?
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I was at a wedding in December
at which old man Bernstein was a guest. Made me feel like a celebrity myself.
In the of-season
quite a while
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
You know what I meant
off-season.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
The squirrel is resting!!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Sshhh!!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
The human rain delay makes it to second!
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
Knock AJ out!
I hate that prick. Somebody needs to bloody his freaking nose.
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
I hope the home plate ump knows
it would be impossible to tell of Willis threw at someone because he always looks like this
Don't you wish the rook was with us?
It would be perfect to throw Perry on the mound in the seventh and put one in AJ’s earhole.
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
I think
Someone has to eat the toss and put one in there.
Nate doesn't throw hard enough!
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
Tigers stand behind D-Train
That’s all that I learned on that one.
maybe get a lil frost on my head
are the tigers playing the new jersey sox or what?
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Howyadoooinh?
Dat kid Everett got no one to thank but yours truly.
I'd repeat Willis's stat line here
but I don’t want to jinx him.
Ever Since He Hurt His Knee...
……hes been lights out
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 9, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Mental issues, anyone?
I say before every start, Cabrera “gives him something to cry about” by boxing his ears.
He’ll have another cy young worthy season.
It's tied, folks
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Possibility:
Knapp is a fan of challenging shitty hitters?
yeah...
I’m really not a big fan of this idea of “getting the starter a win” if they’ve lost it… get them out of there
Oh NO!
I don’t think I will check my work email before I go to bed…..anything and everything must be falling apart in the world…..
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
At least there's a chance that someone will run AJ out a job sooner, rather than later....
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
I never thought
I’d be beggin for the starter to get his pitches UP
I take it from Mr. Price that
“everyone’s falling on their belly”!!
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
typical willis start
which is an improvement over last time.
scares the hell out of you, pisses you off a few times, scares the hell out of you a bit more and does uhm, OK I guess.
Favorite name I have seen so far in the draft
Pittsburgh picks “Brooks Pounders” with the 53 selection.
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
I just read
that Boras is looking for a 50 million dollar contract for Strasburg.
F that. I say let the little snot suffer. I honestly can’t believe that…45 years ago, baseball DIDN’T EVEN HAVE A DRAFT.
I hate Scott Boras and his unsubstantiated story of playing pro baseball in the past.
True
His teamates seemed to back him up pretty good. He is a drama king, however. We’re not used to that.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I'd like a guy named Justin Nohitter
just based on this quote from one A’s pitcher about another:
You end up with a name like ‘Outman, what else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man."
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Laird = designated bunter
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
Don't count those Wings out quite yet
2-1 – goal by Kris Draper!
by Ian Casselberry on Jun 9, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Wade Gaynor
89th pick for Tigers. Right handed 3B from Western KY U
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
MLB Network's analysis of this pick
“Detroit likes things big and powerful. Power pitching, big power hitting.”
Gaynor is 6’4"……looks big
When he comes in
and there’s no one on base.. he’s good :)
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, you could argue that he is really good when he starts!
As no one is on base!
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
Is Wieters the Pens goalie?
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
I don't like hockey, but that was a hell of a save.
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
I think it's franzen not getting a good stick on it
more than fleury’s doing
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
as a hockey game this has been an incredible series
as a wings fan, this has been a frustrating series
Yuck
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I will vote for Inge
because if I don’t, who will?
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Jimmy Gobble
Didn’t we score, like, ten runs off this guy last year?
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In one inning
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
My mom passed away from cancer a couple of weeks ago at age 49
so I can relate, that story kinda hit home
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Has the No. 2 hitter ever been walked to get to the no. 3 hitter?
Or do we think that is a first.
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Montaña Rusa!
Yes, I had to go to the dictionary for that one.
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Roller Coaster
In Spanish
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Rusa, I guess
“Montaña” technically means “mountain”
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The Tigers pitching staff has walked WAAAAAY too many in this game
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Well, it is about time for a blown save, eh?
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You know it's a bad night...
When Zach Miner has been your most effective pitcher
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Jermaine Dye might just enter the Tiger Killers Hall of Fame now.
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All it takes is that hanging curveball that Lyon likes to throw
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
why is it
that I feel like i smoke a full pack of cigarrettes every time rodney comes in
You and Jim Leyland.
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Did Rod just say
This is ridiculous?
That man is brilliant.
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Now Lyon will pitch three more innings
And give up a grand slam home run.
I think I’ve seen this play before.
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Will Leyland ever trust Zumaya to close these games out?
he only pitched 1/3 inning and seems more consistent than rodney. why not?
Zoom also walked a batter..
and fell behind a lot of guys
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it seems Rodney's officially in one of *those* phases...
Let’s hope he can limit it like he did in ’06
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Whee! Extra Innings!
and I say that only because I expected this game to be over already…the wrong way….
Ran into his happy zone.
I think Rod just said it best.
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I love it...
but he needs to sit out the rest of the series.
I love seeing linebrink pitch
this will hopefully be two losses by the guy against us in three games :)
does anybody else
hate the white sox announcers as much as me
Their radio guys are not too bad
The TV guys are terrible
by explosivo2k2 on Jun 9, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
i wanna beat the shit out of him every time i hear his voice
they wont
stop talking about the play at home and how the home umpire missed the call.
Harrelson drives me nuts...
I usually like using the MLB.tv archives to scope out the “other side’s” view on occasion, but the White Sox broadcasters…yuck.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I had to go to bed cause
my stomach was killing me. Now it’s killing me more. I can’t believe this game. Mr. Lyon please give us a lights out tonight. Please!!!!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
hopefully dye hurt himself
looked like his right wrist turned over
Now get Podsednik...
We do NOT want to see Ramirez. Or Dye.
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Dramatic win!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Wow
With all those walks our pitchers gave up last year? That’s incredible.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
For this game at least
He’s my hero!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
"Brandon Lyon just went up 15 points in my book"
Thanks Jim Leyland.
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3 straight wins, where we blow a save and then score and hold on
Surprised it wasn’t Zumaya blowing the save for the win this time…
stole that one
rest of the series is looking good too with JV and EJ on the mound the next 2 nights. Could end up being a great series.
whew
I couldn’t watch! I was waiting for disaster and turned the tonight show on and watched my twitter feed!
I think both get it
rodney being charged the tying run, lyon being involved in not saving it.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 9, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait
What kind of bullshit rule is that? Rodney was charged with the tying run, but not the blown save? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Rodney deserves 5 blown saves for that.
I think since the tying run belonged to him...
But he technically did not let it score.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes no sense.
Buehrle didn’t ALLOW the go-ahead run to score, but the 4th (and 5th) and go-ahead run was CHARGED to him, and unless I’m mistaken, he was in line for the loss. Why is the blown save rule different? Baseball rules are stupid.
Oh, I'll never complain about a win...
No matter how ugly it is…
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 9, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, hopefully we don't have too many more of these...
Now let’s get some sleep and get back to stellar pitching tomorrow.
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By the way...
Minnesota is going to win tonight and Cleveland is all of a sudden in fourth place.
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No team brings out the worst in the Tigers like the White Sox do
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jun 10, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
I can't believe they won this.
I guess the Sox just wanted to lose this one a little bit more.
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Jun 10, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions
The first comment of the night was the most appropriate!
NCDee, “This is going to be a long night.”
I am glad I went to bed and they still won. I am even happier that I did not have to endure Rodney “live”.
"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over."
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