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Edwin Jackson Gets Some Runs: Tigers 5, Indians 1

Unlike his past few starts, Edwin Jackson didn't have to go into the later innings wondering if he'd ever get enough runs from his lineup to get a win.  The Tigers put up three runs in the second inning, pouncing on a scoring opportunity when Cliff Lee gave up singles to the first two batters he faced.

That's all Jackson needed, as he pitched what's become his usual fine game.  Over seven innings, he allowed just one run and four hits, adding four strikeouts and two walks.  His only blemish was a solo homer served up to Ryan Garko in the fifth inning, on what was a pretty good inside fastball.

Okay, it wasn't perfect.  After those four hits in the second, Detroit didn't get another hit until the eighth.  Marcus Thames made sure that hit count, however, reaching out over the plate to pull a hanging slider from Joe Smith over the left field fence for a two-run homer.  And with that, the Tigers scored more runs for Jackson than they had in six of his last seven starts. 

Might Jackson have looked over to that opposing dugout and felt any sympathy for Lee?  It's not like he pitched a bad game, giving up three runs and five hits in seven innings, with eight strikeouts.  But tonight, Lee was the one who couldn't get any run support.  In two starts against the Indians this season, Jackson has allowed one run and nine hits in 14 innings, with 11 strikeouts and three walks.

Whimper:

Has Glass Joel reared his fragile head again?  Joel Zumaya threw just two pitches to Asdrubal Cabrera before a cut on his right thumb forced him to leave the game.  No word yet on how serious the cut is, or whether it may have developed before he came in to pitch.

Comment of the Night:

Okay, if you were in tonight's GameThread, you know what the COTN really was (and boy, am I sorry for opening that door), but I can't post that on the front page.  Not that this wasn't a deserving choice.

Would you rather

have Thames hit a two run homer making this a non-save situation or go scoreless in the eighth making this a save situation for Rodney (which seems to be the only situation he pitches well in).

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got a screen shot of Anderson's owie

and one of sizemore, but nobody else cares about him.

I think that happened about 3 seconds after I left! poor kid! hope he’s alright.

and I’m so bummed to have missed the debut of ceiling Inge.

by allikazoo on Jul 10, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully he will make repeat appearances

Probably during AS game.

Speaking of which, will we be getting a thread for that, seeing as it is now a significant Tigers affair?

by Kmann on Jul 10, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know Josh was a Hook once

they’ve got a nice ballpark in Corpus, but I never saw him play there :)

by allikazoo on Jul 11, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hooks? Like "Hook 'em"?

I’m going to have to learn this lingo if I move to Texas.

by wepri31 on Jul 11, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully the houston area

my best friend got a job down there and i’m trying to get one too so i can get out of here

by wepri31 on Jul 11, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

cool

I am in san antonio. we’ll have to go see pudge together sometime :) haha

by allikazoo on Jul 11, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the Joel Zumaya front...

I noticed him messing with his thumb while he was warming up, so apparently it’s something he knew about when he took the mound. Gerald Laird said something about a blister during a postgame interview.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 11, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I understand playing through pain,

but there’s a point where you need to stop and say “hey, if I go out there now, I won’t be helping the team”

rar.

by wepri31 on Jul 11, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of playing through pain...

Could Cabrera be trying to play through an injury? He hasn’t exactly been pounding the ball recently (outside of the home run he hit on Tuesday), and there were a couple of times where Kevin Rand and Jim Leyland were looking at his knee in the dugout. If that’s the case, then hopefully he can get that thing rested up and healed up during the All-Star Break.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 11, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Love Jonathan Sanchez!

I don’t know who he is, but he is my favorite pitcher ever for tonight! WHOO!!!

by Kmann on Jul 11, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

He pitched against the Tigers during Interleague play last year...

If I remember correctly, it took the Tigers till the fifth or sixth inning to get their first hit (fittingly enough), and Raburn had a pinch-hit home run against him later in the game to either tie the score or put the Tigers ahead. I know it was a game that the Tigers eventually won.

But I saw the last couple innings of tonight’s no-no. That sure was exciting. And it’s a great story.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 11, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I vaguely remember him, yes

Glad they showed it on ESPN. It was pretty cool. That was the first time his dad had seen him play in the majors, or so I’ve heard.

Way to go Johnny. Join the club, JV’s waiting for you.

by Kmann on Jul 11, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was the game that douche of a san fran baseball writer wrote about...

…where he called Raburn a scrub and was all over the Giants for letting him beat their squad.

Thanks for pointing that out, I was wondering why I knew the name of the kid…

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by ahtrap on Jul 11, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check it:

GameThread: http://www.blessyouboys.com/2008/6/17/553800/game-71-tigers-32-38-at-gi
Recap: http://www.blessyouboys.com/2008/6/18/553953/they-can-be-heroes-tigers
Stupid Article: http://tinyurl.com/evilarticle

   My favorite quote is, reading the thread, ThaWalrus9 in saying near the end:

Johnathan Sanchez = Loser
Sometimes, baseball isn’t fair

Not such a loser anymore, eh!?

   On a related note, I like a quote from that article from Marcus Thames, which is oddly relevant considering Sanchez had a nasty slider tonight, and he was, in fact, filthy.

“He’s filthy,” Thames said of Sanchez. “I was talking to Pudge (Rodriguez). He’s been playing for 18 years and said that kid is nasty. He has a nasty slider. He pitched great.”

by Kmann on Jul 11, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love stuff like this

the last paragraph of that story

This game featured a bizarre moment of baseball jurisprudence. In the eighth , Cabrera flied out to Aaron Rowand, who threw to first in a bid to double off Magglio Ordoñez. Simultaneously, second-base umpire Brian O’Nora called the runner out while home-plate ump Paul Nauert called him safe. They conferred, and the safe call stood.

On the next pitch, Ordoñez was thrown out trying to steal to end the inning.

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by ahtrap on Jul 11, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Magglio

Magglio, deconstructed: The mini-vacation he got hasn’t helped. Cutting his hair made some money for charity and produced one home run, but Magglio Ordonez(notes) comes into the final weekend before the break still unable to shake the slump that has plagued him all season. In some ways, it’s gotten worse: Ordonez has two home runs since Tigers manager Jim Leyland sat him down in mid-June, but in 13 games since, he is batting just .196. The Tigers are now platooning him in right with Clete Thomas(notes), and it’s still not out of the question that GM Dave Dombrowski will release him.

We asked our man, Ari Kaplan, the Caltech-trained statistical analyst who consults for a number of big league clubs and has a website, ariball.com, to take a closer look at Maggs. Here are his key observations:

Ordonez has big holes in his swing out of the strike zone. Swinging at 18 low pitches out of the zone and 19 high pitches that were balls, Ordonez has no hits. Cutters have been especially cruel to him; he has swung at a dozen cutters, put only two in play, and has no hits. He still rakes changeups – 19 percent of his hits come off the change, but pitchers are now throwing him half as many changes as they were earlier in the season, while amping up the number of fastballs, from 50 percent to 65 percent. Can anyone say long swing (my words, not Ari’s)? Kaplan also notes that Ordonez, never a fast runner, has gone from first to third on a single on just one of 18 chances this season., and from second to home on only four of 14 chances. And since he’s hitting groundballs 61 percent of the time, that lack of speed becomes even more obvious.

by gonk on Jul 11, 2009 3:49 AM EDT reply actions  

This is only my own personal observation and I have no numbers to back it up...

…but it seems like since his “break,” Magglio doesn’t seem to be grounding out quite as much. He’s still not hitting with any consistency, but I feel like a lot more of his outs are of the strikeout or fly ball variety than they were before. I’m not sure what that means, though.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 11, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He does seem to be doing less GIDP than before. Of course, this is just an anecdote and numbers may prove me wrong, but it does seem to me as well a lot more surprises that he doesn’t ground out as much.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 11, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is doing it less

But his #‘s are so far off from last year . (307 12 HR and 50 RBI’s – in ‘07) I love him anyway… he’ll always be my Tiger. He made me remember how much heart we have as sports fans in Detroit.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 11, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Echoing those thoughts

The original writer of that should be credited, even better if a link was provided. And you can create a blockquote for excerpted material, as we’ve seen several times in this thread.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 11, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plagiarism is for losers.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 11, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, if you were in tonight’s GameThread, you know what the COTN really was (and boy, am I sorry for opening that door), but I can’t post that on the front page.

Inside jokes are what make online communites special – and make us look even stranger walking around in the real world and giggling at things that make no sense to anyone else.

And we only tease out of love. Honest. :-)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 11, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I LOVE THESE GUYS !!!!

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 11, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

yes, you do

Otherwise you won’t get the jokes.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 11, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully maggs thrives in the platoon

this is really the way he should go out. Rake some lefties, play out the season as long as he’s contributing like that, and go out … maybe not on top, but head held higher than if he was just released. Much better from a PR standpoint, too, for the team.

2-for-4, good start. I just hope they don’t get tempted to see him against righties again.

by Kurt Mensching on Jul 11, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet

by YakAttack on Jul 11, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

yep, that's what we get with Rodney

Teams like Minnesota, NYY, Bos etc get

I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet

by YakAttack on Jul 11, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

High Five!!!

I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet

by YakAttack on Jul 11, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

at my parents' unpacking their new place

I’ve got a shitty camera phone photo of something awesome to post in the next game thread :)

by allikazoo on Jul 11, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Am I the only one who

hopes all the kids on MTV’s Teen Cribs die in a fire?

I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet

by YakAttack on Jul 11, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

if I knew what that was

I’m sure I would join you in that hope. It sounds very annoying.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 11, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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