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Game 88: Tigers at Yankees

Detroit Tigers at New York Yankees, Jul 17, 2009 7:05 PM EDT


  Luke French (1-0, 1.93) vs.   A.J. Burnett (8-4, 3.77), 7:05 p.m. EST

Your wait is over!  After four days without meaningful baseball, the Tigers return to the field to take on the team with the second-best record in the American League. 

Some people might feel that's a tough draw coming out of the All-Star break, but I think it's good to jump into the deep end right away.  Against a lesser opponent, the Tigers might have a little trouble shaking off the rust.  But they'll have to be sharp right away against the Yankees.  And this would be a great time for Detroit to make a statement that they should be taken seriously in the American League.

Facing A.J. Burnett to begin the second half of the season is a tough way to live, though.  He's given up two runs or fewer in his past five starts.  In his last outing, however, Burnett was a little bit shaky, allowing four walks and seven hits in 6.1 innings of work.  He also threw only two strikeouts, tying his lowest total of the season.  Burnett has a 3-1 record in five career starts against the Tigers, despite an 8.03 ERA.  He beat Detroit both times he faced them last year, however (though he posted a 5.73 ERA). 

Welcome to the big leagues, Luke French.  Sure, he's had four major league appearances to this point, but starting in Yankee Stadium carries a bit more with it.  Besides that, maybe you've heard how frequently balls are flying over the fences in the new place.  French has been good in his first two starts, giving up a total of four runs in 11 innings.  But the Twins and Royals don't have the same ammunition in their lineups that the Yankees do.  Joe Girardi's crew has scored 495 runs this season, 30 more than their next closest competitor (the Red Sox). 

However, the Yankees have apparently had problems against pitchers they haven't seen before.  (Hmm, that sounds familiar.)  Or they haven't, depending on who you read.  And if you look at Burnett vs. French and think "total mismatch," remember that you may have been thinking the same thing before French opposed Zack Greinke in his last start.  How'd that one work out?

Pinstripe Alley has your SB Nation opposing view for this weekend's series.

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Starting Lineups

TIGERS

1. Curtis Granderson CF
2. Placido Polanco 2B
3. Miguel Cabrera 1B
4. Marcus Thames DH
5. Clete Thomas RF
6. Brandon Inge 3B
7. Josh Anderson LF
8. Gerald Laird C
9. Adam Everett SS

YANKEES

1. Derek Jeter SS
2. Johnny Damon LF
3. Mark Teixeira 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez 3B
5. Hideki Matsui DH
6. Jorge Posada C
7. Robinson Cano 2B
8. Nick Swisher RF
9. Melky Cabrera CF

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Something's gotta give?

From Peter Abraham:

A TEST: The Yankees are 5-15 against teams that lead their respective divisions at the moment.

CENTRAL SUCCESS: The Yankees are 16-5 against teams from the AL Central.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Those are some interesting numbers....

Fo’Soe.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watching the pregame show...

Anyone else notice that the sound during interviews is HORRIDLY out of sync?

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 17, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Headline: "Irish to face Army at Yankee Stadium"

Sounds like some crazy war headline. “I was there the day the Yankee army fought and died valiantly against the Irish in their big ol’ stadium”

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Throw Strikes shirt is lucky

Wore it to the Loons game last night and the home guys won! Granted, there was some epic squandering and it was a lot more interesting than it had to be when they gave up four runs in the eighth inning and then let the first two guys on base in the ninth (it would be wonderful to have a bullpen), but a 9-5 win is still a 9-5 win.

I take partial credit for wearing the shirt, because it was advice that was eventually heeded – to good effect. :-)

(Got a few compliments on it as well – and some guys that I wasn’t sure if they were reading or just staring at my boobs. Not many oglers, thank god.)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

as a guy

it’s rather awkward complimenting a girl’s shirt if it has a saying printed over their boobs.

by mrsunshine on Jul 17, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t get the point of having words on the butt anyway. It makes no sense to me.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've found that often no written cue is needed.

Especially if the little tart was poured into her pants and forgot to say “when.”

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saying "I like your shirt" is fine

It’s the lingering wordless stares that are bothersome.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

If a girl wears a shirt with words there,

it’s fair game to comment on. Just don’t do the “lingering wordless stare” like Baroque mentioned.

by wepri31 on Jul 17, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

Take the time to read the shirt and then tell her you like it while you look her in the face. Anyone who takes offense to that is clearly too dumb to read herself, so she can’t understand that some people can actually make sense out of all those letters strung together in non-random order.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll tell you something

If Miggy has the same contact as he did at the end of the 1st half, he will have 3-4 homers this series. A bunch just missed at Comerica, but they will go out in the Bronx.

by actioncuse on Jul 17, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Rod

“Now they MUST score this run in the first inning.”

He knows the importance of not squandering. :-)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

at the Braves-Mets

Watching Maddux’s number get retired and Jair Jurrgens. Have fun

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Jul 17, 2009 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I always loved Maddux. He so did not look like a stereotypical athlete, and was so incredibly smart and sneaky. One of my favorite pitchers to watch because he could confuse the heck out of anyone.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

howdy!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

relying on you guys right now

my MLB.tv is not working…someone want to step up and give me an out by out, hit by hit, play by play?

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by Packey on Jul 17, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I had trouble with mine too, BUT

go to MLB.com and open the radio feed. That will come up, and then change it to the tv feed and it will work.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB TV PROBLEMS....

I didn’t read the thread above, but if it isn’t working open the radio feed first and then the tv feed will work. (yes, I just repeated but I wanted to make sure you all saw it!)

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

0-8 vs. the Red Sux....

That has to burn their ass.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Cleetus showing off the arm....

had him dead.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

did they give the error to laird or thomas?

by wepri31 on Jul 17, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

you wish he hadn't walked a lefty

he’s a soft tossing lefty. he’s there to get those guys out!

by Kurt Mensching on Jul 17, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

just after Rod told about his .167 batting avg against lefties too

by murrajo on Jul 17, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He lives vicariously..through himself.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is the most interesting man in the world.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poopy pop-up. :(

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

An error has occured

We are having technical difficulties processing your request. Please try again later.

What gives?

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody having problems with mlb.com.

Clean out your cache completely and then restart your browser. At the first of the season I had to do that (after reading about it on the support forum. ) Everybody was bitching about the same thing but once I cleaned out my cache as someone suggested, it worked and has worked ever since.

by NCDee on Jul 17, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is a support forum where someone is usually there to help

http://www.mlbsupport.com/forum/

or you can see if there are other technical probs right now and there may be ideas to work around already

by allikazoo on Jul 17, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like a broken record but

open the radio feed first. It will work. Then hit the drop down in the middle of the window and click on the tv feed. It will work. (last time, promise)

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

where it shows the radio call letters.

click on that and it will drop down. then you can select fsn-d.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay, Polanco!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Does everyone feel as high as me right now

finally watching Tigers Baseball. seems like forever

by VegasTigers on Jul 17, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

high = groggy (sometimes)

Maybe you actually ARE high and don’t realize it. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

the last few days sucked

by murrajo on Jul 17, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

the look on his face was priceless

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

watching pregame I recorded

ryan’s hair looks like the wind blew one side over

by allikazoo on Jul 17, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Kmann

look back up ^ and see if it works.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope.

Instant “error”. Ugh. Cleared cache and everything else too.

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry!

It is stupid, but that is how I had to get into mine today (and other assorted days) so I figured it would work for you too.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine actually paying for the shit!

Especially depending on where you live.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grand Rapids

Should work. As Mack said, they’ve really sold me on the product so far. :)

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

lincecum just made a nice play

sliding catch, highlight worth watching later

by allikazoo on Jul 17, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Somebody needs to get that kid a sammadge! He is so freaking skinny. So is Ervin Santana. I was at the game he pitched against JV in June. He is a rail too….

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of, where is mr kessle caseal storm the castle berry?

by Kurt Mensching on Jul 17, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

sleeping

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

by wepri31 on Jul 17, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always picture Ian

waking up abruptly like Clooney in Oh Brother.

“ah, my hair!”

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Of all the names that I’ve thought were difficult to pronounce, Ian’s isn’t one of them. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of looking 12 years old....

Miggy looks like a little kid with some dirt on his chinny-chin chin.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

while we're in commercial break

This was so funny at the minor league game last night. I like to watch from the outfield, because there are the fewest people there and I can get a clear view unobstructed by loose children or cotton candy vendors. Most of the kids can be seen roaming the lawn behind the home bullpen, so when a ball is foul in that area they swarm to the railing and wait for it to be tossed into the crowd.

Well, partway through the game a ball was dribbled foul in the bullpen area and one of the relievers picked it up, and the hordes of small children raced to the railing to wait for it. He turned his back to the kids and made a motion exactly like a bride tossing her bouquet – but he hung onto the ball instead and the kids all looked around for the ball and then returned to the railing. He faked them out three times – it was exactly like a dog when you fake tossing a tennis ball and he runs off about ten feet, then looks around confused because the ball disappeared. He finally did toss it to the kids, but it was so funny seeing the mass of kids flowing back and forth like a school of fish looking for the baseball.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

If you walk Josh Anderson

well… you can walk anyone….

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by Packey on Jul 17, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

X 2

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

hungry

who’s got the snax tonight

by allikazoo on Jul 17, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

And people actually wonder why I don’t like Everett.

by BigDaddyJC on Jul 17, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

"Classic Cano"??

Like the dude is 43 and headed to the hall….

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Just saw that too. 92 years old

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that

Is one long, full life. Sad, but good for him that he packed so much into it.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the 40th anniversary of the moon landing

For his exhaustive and enthusiastic coverage of NASA, Mr. Cronkite was sometimes called "the eighth astronaut." During the first moon landing in 1969, Mr. Cronkite "was on the air for 27 of the 30 hours that Apollo 11 took to complete its mission," The Museum of Broadcast Communications notes.
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/walter-cronkite-iconic-anchorman-dies/

by murrajo on Jul 17, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

IT’S OUTTA HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE!

by wepri31 on Jul 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay, GRANDERSON!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Get him, Ian!

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grandiggity!

He IS a BIG BOI!

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

OT, kind of....

I think JPM has secret (or not so) lustings for Mr. Wilson. He just can’t stay away!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9820618/Hard-to-believe-the-Pirates-will-retain-talent

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

From what I remember from health class, there are some things that you just can’t get rid of.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

is Rod on drugs?

“if Anderson had done better at the lead off spot it would have been easier for Leyland to keep Anderson at the lead off spot”
That, right is genius, pure circular reasoning genius

by murrajo on Jul 17, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish I could remember the sequence that makes that happen.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just held down shift and pounded the numbers

Garfield comics taught me how to swear in print…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I did the last time I got a gray box

Someday when I have nothing better to do I’ll have to pay attention to the order and try a bunch of combinations to see if I can figure out what keystrokes function as a “summon gray box” spell.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta like the hustle though....

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Batting Stance guy!

by wepri31 on Jul 17, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, fuck

Really? They’re incorporating Batting Stance Guy into broadcasts?

I mean, good for him. He made the most of… whatever skill that is. But geez, just let people find him on YouTube.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I beg to differ

Squandering seems to be quite marketable – judging by the Tigers, anyway. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

that’s brutal

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by Packey on Jul 17, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what mlb.tv?

Go screw yourself. I don’t have time for your silliness.

Technology, can’t live with it, ….

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe we could skip the third one, and pick it back up at 4?

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

excellent thinking!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I already ate (T-Bone off the grill…mmmmwwwmwaa) BUT I am craving some Pad Thai, level 4.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson = colander :(

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Derp

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by Packey on Jul 17, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Doh! again

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

The polar bear is so much sadder.

Because, really, they have to have a good life, right?

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

In captivity, of course.

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

awwww

Poor thing.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sets up the double play - right?

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by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

See!

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by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole. "

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

E-5, that's a bit harsh...

Most 3B would have looked up after slipping and sat on the ball cause they wouldn’t have a throw…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Talk about luck

Give the Yankees extra outs, and most of the time you don’t live to tell the tale.

by BigDaddyJC on Jul 17, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

party suites have a 3 hundred dollar food credit

What does a party suite cost that they can give you 300 dollars (4 beers) worth of food?

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

for dogs only

Not people food.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ni in the 6th

Seay in the 7th, Lyon in the 8th, and Rodnye in the 9th.

by Tagne13 on Jul 17, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey I changed my plans for next week

Do you think I can do the Falls, Shipwreck Museum/Lighthouse on Whitefish Point, and travel back home to Saginaw all in the same day?

by Tagne13 on Jul 17, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

you'd have one hell of a long day if you did

it’s no short walk into the falls and it’s a pretty decent drive from there up to the shipwreck museum.

but i’m sure it’s possible

by Kurt Mensching on Jul 17, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

How long do think it takes to go through the museum?

It’s not that large, is it?

I’d probably go:

leave hotel in Soo, drive to Whitefish (1 and 20 min drive) and do that stuff, then drive to the falls in the afternoon (30 min drive???), eat, drive home (3 1/2 hour drive)

by Tagne13 on Jul 17, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

the museum is actually pretty small

I think you can handle it.

I think the falls are more than a 30 minute drive from whitefish though. I think they’re probably a solid 30 minutes west of Paradise, and if I recall Whitefish is about 30 minutes north of Paradise too. But it’s been awhile.

The falls will take you the most time, I think it’s probably a two mile walk into them. At least it felt like it when I was there. You keep going and going and going and going and going.

by Kurt Mensching on Jul 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Upper or lower falls?

I think I read the Upper is only like .4 mile walk

by Tagne13 on Jul 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate math in my head so I'm going to type this out...

leave at 8, get to museum by 9:30, spend a couple hours and get a quick bite, leave by noon, get to falls by 1, spend 3-4 hours, leave by 5 at latest, then about 3 and a half hour drive home….around 8:30ish at the latest

seem reasonable?

by Tagne13 on Jul 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not the BEST way to enjoy the scenery and that

but I don’t really have the money for an extra night at the hotel so this’ll have to do

Of course this is all dependent upon how hungover I am after taking my license exam.

by Tagne13 on Jul 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rod is PUMPED

and rightfully so!

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Shot

Down…. nice throw anderson

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

Couldn’t is right tense… rest is right, though ;-)

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by Packey on Jul 17, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm glad

I didn’t know you thought me unintelligent, glad I changed your mind.

;)

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

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by Packey on Jul 17, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

by "here"...

can you open up a different window or tab? If yes, open up that gameday link provided somewhere above…

Official BYB Juju Consultant...now accepting rally creature applications!

by ahtrap on Jul 17, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-2 Tiges up

Anderson just threw out Posada for the 3rd out to end the 6th and keep the lead… He had a bit of a fielding problem earlier…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-2 good guys

and Anderson just gunned down a guy at home. Laird made a great tag.

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-2 Detroit

Anderson made a big error earlier — ball right through his legs. But he redeemed himself with a laser (as the kids say) to home plate to get Posada out.

by NCDee on Jul 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-2 Tigers

And Anderson gunned down Posada at the plate to end the last inning.

(Earlier he let a ball go right through his legs for an error.)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

what they said

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by ahtrap on Jul 17, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

the knight rides again

with a little help from his friends

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by ahtrap on Jul 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

3-2 top 7th

he errored then made a nice throw

by allikazoo on Jul 17, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Nelson Cruz

Looks like Zumaya’s older brother. He can hit too.

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure did

But any mention of the derby only makes me think … poor Brandon…

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you hear about the trophy Inge presented?

He gave his pitcher a trophy for “lowest ERA in the home run derby” because he also pitched for Magglio when he only hit a couple homers.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It still looked like he was having fun though, didn’t it happen to Cecil back in the day as well?

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think so

He was in it enough to have an oh-fer.

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, 1990

Although McGwire won with 1 homer. WTH?

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

pre juice

Damn that 1998 season was something else though…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phil Hughes, huh?

Didn’t he used to be the next big thing?

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by ahtrap on Jul 17, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

next hot Yankee starter

I think he was the one that the Yankees ruled out of any trades because they were so high on him. You can never tell with pitchers, though.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, watching msnbc, Dan Rather talking about his predecessor…

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by ahtrap on Jul 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the way

that Granderson just kind of dismissed Selig as insignificant. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, isn't he?

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

But it’s still funny to hear it. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

True dat.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB commish vs leader of the free world

I likely would marginalize the dude as well…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody going to Granderson's wine tasting event

for donating money to the Grand Kids charity?

Motown String Music- SB Nation's Detroit Pistons Blog

by Packey on Jul 17, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Chuckling

because, you know, kids and wine go so well together :)

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by ahtrap on Jul 17, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

We actually have a deal at one of the grocery stores in town here

where buying wine benefits the local children’s hospital. Go figure.

by NCDee on Jul 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

No one is going? I figured a bunch of people donated and thus, got the free autograph and the invite….

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by Packey on Jul 17, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you see a headline like this on ESPN.com, what would you think?

“Judge discards SEC lawsuit vs. Cuban”

It’s a real headline up there right now….my first reaction was along the lines of, “What, did the Mavs owner try to buy the Alabama football team or something?”

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by ahtrap on Jul 17, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

first glance

I wondered what the Securities and Exchange Commission was doing in Havana since the US and Cuba aren’t really speaking to each other.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

combine the two

I wondered what Cuban did to the securities etc.

by Kurt Mensching on Jul 17, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raining?

Oh let it start pouring RIGHT NOW

by NCDee on Jul 17, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

MAKE IT RAIN!

Who saw the Pacman video on ESPN?

by Tagne13 on Jul 17, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Moi

Sounded like a fun night…

by Kmann on Jul 17, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will always hold a spot in my heart.....

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

My dog knows when the game gets serious

She’s hiding in the bedroom, it sounds silly, but it really is sad, like Damon’s double…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

My only surprise

was that Damon’s double wasn’t a home run.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

well....at least he's not walking anyone

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by ahtrap on Jul 17, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yet

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by ahtrap on Jul 17, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAIT FOR IT

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

dammit, Joel

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Damnit

that is not cool Joel

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

pull him?

Pull him right over the side of a cliff. :(

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

anxiety disorder?

Maybe he just needs to go on the DL for a bit…
Grienke and Votto style, not Willis style…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely shitty

and they can call the game now if they want to.

by mrsunshine on Jul 17, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Good job Zumaya

Keep earning your paycheck dumbass

by BigDaddyJC on Jul 17, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Justin?

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

(At both the picture and at Justin Zumaya.)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's my fault

I was talking about the difference between female fans and airheaded groupies, such as a female fan would know that a batter couldn’t bunt with two strikes because if it was foul he’d be out, and a groupie (whatever the baseball equivalent of puckbunny is) would be all, “I LOVE Jason Verlander! He is so a-DOR-able!”

Then when Verlander was pitching like crap I started calling him Jason instead of Justin, and then I started calling other pitchers Jason when they were pitching like poop … and that is why when pitchers are crummy some of us have begin referring to them as Jason.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that and mentally substituted Jason for Justin so I didn’t even notice. I knew exactly what you meant.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Rod said it

They’re swinging like they know what’s coming

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

If they get a triple they hit for the cycle this inning

that’s pretty sweet isn’t it… no, no it’s not, never mind…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

cue music....

“And I wonder, still I wonder- who’ll stop the rain?”

//love that song

by murrajo on Jul 17, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Minnesota winning and the White Sox tied. :(

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

How can you put Zumaya in in this situation?

You know it’s pouring. Hard to see them go beyond this inning. You just need to hold the lead. And you put in Zumaya.

by jack s. on Jul 17, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Breaking news: Zumya to the DL

right after Leyland pulls him and I bump into him in a dark alley. Seriously though this guy is done … again!

by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 17, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

That's fine with me

I’m not a fire Jim Leyland guy but if Leyland puts him in the 7th or 8th inning again with a lead he should be fired. Last 9 outings (counting tonight) he has 4 blown saves and 8 earned runs allowed … he is done!

by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 17, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smile Mark!

Dumbshit hooked you up nicely.

by BigDaddyJC on Jul 17, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If we could only package

Nate, D-Train, Mags, and Zoom to….oh say, the Nationals for …oh NOTHING. I would be happy, I think.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Teaching him a lesson, that is well deserved.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Leyland didn’t want to get all wet walking out to the mound.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soggy smokes

good for nobody.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I admire that in Leyland

it drives me nuts sometimes, but he does what he has to do

no BENCH Joel!

by murrajo on Jul 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on

Just get one more out… just one…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright, I’m gonna go get some bread for everyone. Joel’s supplying the jam.

by wepri31 on Jul 17, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Rod is wondering if Leyland is thinking if Zumaya will be available tomorrow?

I know what Verlander is thinking………he hopes Zumaya is NOT available tomorrow!

by MSU4LIF on Jul 17, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

JV is thinking

I am NOT giving my game to the bullpen
screw you guys

by murrajo on Jul 17, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I have to throw 150 pitches

and duct tape my shoulder together in the seventh inning, there is no way I am coming out of the game.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he would do it too

I am sure I have seen that look in his eyes in a few games this year

by murrajo on Jul 17, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then he’d punch out anyone who tried to take him out of the game.

With his game face on, he looks mean and nasty (and not the good kind of nasty, either).

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

smoosh all of jim's cigs after the game

if he even stepped out of the dugout towards the mound

by wepri31 on Jul 17, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

crush them under his heel, with a sinister laugh

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've gotten to the point where

working out and cleaning my apartment sounds more appealing than this

talk to you guys later

by allikazoo on Jul 17, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Bill Simmons trying his best to jinx Phil Hughes on Twitter
It’s official: Phil Hughes is baseball’s best set-up guy. No touching this guy. Dominant. He may never give up another run.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Simmons wore out his welcome with me long ago. Predictable. Regurgitation. Jack ass.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Anderson singled

take that Bill Simmons … your Phil Highes opinions are just B.S.

by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 17, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

White Sox up 6-3

Someone might want to fill these idiots in on the news.

by BigDaddyJC on Jul 17, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Adding to Zumaya's pain

Watching Hughes strike out batters like he used to.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

and Hughes beat his guitar hero record…

by busta on Jul 17, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

All his outs have come via the K?

Wow Tigers; they call that epic fail where I come from.

by BigDaddyJC on Jul 17, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

5 k's for Hughes, one for Burnett

it seems our lineup is making up for lost time.

by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 17, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do it for your new baby, Ramon!

by wepri31 on Jul 17, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Bennie!!

Howdy! We missed you around here. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know....

…….just gard to keep up in here sometimes

by BennieBladesFan on Jul 17, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Understood

Just wondered how you were. Just check in once in a while so we know you’re okay. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, WOW

That was Tex’s first home run since June 12.

Slumping bad? Just play the Tigers, it’s a cure-all.

by BigDaddyJC on Jul 17, 2009 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon

if it gets to the top of the ninth we do have Grandy, Polanco and Miggy … there’s atleast a glimmer of hope.

by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 17, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

who wants to see us actually make a come back only to hand the game over to Rodney.

by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 17, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's a save situation....

ME.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me.....

……..Hes perfect in save situations

by BennieBladesFan on Jul 17, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

if it’s a tie though count me out.

by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 17, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only...

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Goodnight, folks

Maybe I’ll check the news tomorrow and find that after a rain delay the Tigers came back to win the game in absurdly dramatic fashion – but regardless, French was very good and I hope the Tigers have better luck this weekend. And by “better luck” I mean “less flammable bullpen” of course.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 17, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Zumaya

The weapon of self destruction yet again. Ugh.

Thanks to my wife for letting me have the computer back.

by fluffstuckinWI on Jul 17, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Kurt or Ian or somebody

help me with this. I don’t understand! This was a tweet from @Official_Tigers today “Taking the D train to the Bronx…”

Oh never mind. I get it now. Ya, I am a jack ass. When I read it earlier today I was not feeling it, but now it’s clear…and funny.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I was so busy at work when I read it that truly befuddled me. I remembered seeing it, but until I re-read it as I was pasting it….it didn’t resonate.

But yes, it is quite cruel. I bet they have no clue.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Ian,

if you aren’t going to use Lincecum in the Grandy League (you know, leave him on the BENCH (?)) I will gladly trade you anyone you wish outside of Miggy the Piggy!

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

This would probably be why I’m almost in last place.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I am continuing to entertain myself...this probably won't end well.

ESPN has selected the July 26th Tigers game for its “Sunday Night Baseball” national telecast. (AP)

White Sux.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay

Nothing like embarrassing ourselves on national television and having the likes of Jon Miller and Joe Morgan comment on it.

Those games serve to make me appreciate what we have in Mario & Rod.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 17, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

ESPN never supports the Tigers, neither does Fox for that matter

by VegasTigers on Jul 17, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello, boys and girls...

Been watching the game, just not at the computer. Really strange sort of struggle for Zumaya. Usually he doesn’t give up multitudes of hits like that. If he gives up a bunch of runs there’s usually walks involved but he didn’t walk anyone until Nick Swisher, and that was long after the home run (which, by the way, may have been again a result of poor pitch selection, as a left-handed hitter can usually handle a low fastball better than one that’s elevated a bit). Still, the question remains as to how to get him turned around and back to being the dominant lights-out guy that he was earlier in the year. He ain’t old and he ain’t injured (as far as I can tell, though he’s been known to hide injuries in the past), so there’s a solution to be had. It’s just a matter of finding it.

Also, has anyone else noticed that there have been no radar gun readings tonight?

By the way, I swear I saw Dick Cheney sitting next to the Yankees’ dugout (that might be the problem right there).

I’m off to take a shower. I shall return.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 17, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Has any prognosis been given re: the weather?

I was really looking forward to a normal Friday night just once after technological problems last week, 16 innings the week before, a 3-hour-plus game the week before, 3 hours of rain delays the Friday before that…

by Todd Jones Save Manual on Jul 17, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Weird weather here in Indy.

Low tonight of 51! High tomorrow of 67. That is crazy. It’s usually 93 this time of year. I’m not complaining though.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, I am not that savvy about computer technology so help me out.

Is there an issue if the thread becomes too big? I would assume so, or there would be no need for the overflow. I just don’t understand the in’s and out’s…dude.

You don’t have to explain, but I would like to know.

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Jul 17, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if there's a number where it becomes completely unmanageable

But in terms of load times, it seems to help when the threads are capped around 500-600 comments.

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 17, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

well i guess i'm back

now tired-er.. rally? rally? heh.

by allikazoo on Jul 17, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

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