Joel Zumaya to the DL; Ryan Perry Called Up
As it turns out, there may have been a more substantial reason for Joel Zumaya's struggles last night, one far more tangible than "he stinks right now."
But let's not bury the lede. Zumaya was on his way back to Detroit this morning to undergo a MRI exam on his pitching shoulder. In light of that, the Tigers placed Zumaya on the 15-day disabled list with a sore shoulder and recalled Ryan Perry from Triple-A Toledo to take his spot on the roster.
In 13.2 innings with the Mud Hens since being sent down in mid-June, Perry compiled three saves with 13 strikeouts. His record is 1-0 with a 2.63 ERA. Earlier this season, Perry appeared in 27.1 innings for Detroit, posted 25 strikeouts and 21 walks, along with a 4.68 ERA.
Soon after giving up Mark Teixeira's decisive three-run homer, Zumaya said he began to feel "serious pain" in his right shoulder. How soon after the homer? Jim Leyland left his pitcher out there to dry in that seventh inning, probably wanting to save his bullpen once the lead was relinquished, but surely would've made a change had he known Zumaya was hurt.
John Lowe's report says Zumaya felt the pain "several batters after," but Zumaya he went on to face six batters, throwing 25 pitches in the process. At what point did the pain begin (Zumaya said he "felt a pop"), and how long did he try to pitch through it? Or did the throbbing pain in Zumaya's shoulder - which prevented him from lifting his arm following the game - set in after he came out?
(EDIT: Lowe's story clarifies that Zumaya's shoulder began barking five batters after Teixeira's homer.)
For now, Zumaya's injury prevents the Tigers from deciding whether to move him to a less important mop-up role in the bullpen or perhaps even send him to the minors to work on his control. (He has three options remaining.) He'd already been taken out of the pivotal eighth inning set-up role, in favor of Brandon Lyon.
However, this injury raises almost as many questions as it does provide answers. Was Zumaya fighting increasing shoulder soreness over the past month, as he steadily became a less dependable late-inning option for the Tigers? (Tiger Tales lists each of his recent blown saves.) Was the injury caused by whatever mechanical issues may have also been causing Zumaya's lack of control (22 walks in 31 innings)?
And maybe this is something that will have to be addressed after the season, rather than right now, because the Tigers need Zumaya - or rather, a dependable Zumaya - in their bullpen, but what about down the line? Given his injury history (and we didn't coin the "Glass Joel" nickname just because it was catchy), is it time for the team to seriously think about moving him into the starting rotation, teaching Zumaya to pace himself through longer outings, rather than cut loose for an inning?
He obviously throws extremely hard. Last night was the first time he wasn't consistently clocked at 100 m.p.h. (and maybe that should've been a tip-off), but where exactly is that getting Zumaya? We're all awed by the rocket power his right arm is capable of showing off, but batters were either able to catch up to a fastball that didn't have much movement or waiting for Zumaya to throw an off-speed pitch.
But maybe Zumaya's shoulder is showing what many people (expert or otherwise) have often feared: the human body just isn't meant to throw that hard on a regular basis.
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Always an exuse
after he sucks. In the local paper here it said he threw three pitches in pain. That means he felt no pain when he gave up Tex’s HR. well at least not shoulder pain.
+1
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 18, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Pain?
Lately Tiger fans have been in pain when Zumaya enters the game…
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 18, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions
Where's the responsibility here?
It Zumaya’s been nursing a bad shoulder for a while, wouldn’t it have been obvious during his warm-ups? Shouldn’t Knapp have noticed his mechanics were off? Or, if it did just “pop” during the game last night, shouldn’t Zumaya have let Leyland know immediately?
I think it’s pretty obvious that somebody (or somebodies) have been in denial about Zumaya’s arm. But it’s time to fish or cut bait with him. I don’t know what his options are at this point but we better not see him on the mound for the Tigers for a good long time — if ever again. He’s been getting away with stupid stuff for long enough. He needs to grow up and face reality. Either he’s serious about pitching and will treat his body appropriately or he can kiss his baseball career goodbye and live the party boy life.
Seems to be part of the culture
The Tigers really, really want to play through pain, and either they hide it really well, or the trainer is blind to it.
I want the Tigers to steal Arnie Kander from the Pistons, haha!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 18, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Arnie Kander.....
…..is the man……Also how about how Joe D has rebuilt the pistons and they wont skip a beat……he is the best GM in town hands down…..8 stright playoff apearences……And that will continue for years to come…….I mean wait til Duncan retires in SA do you think they will make playoffs next year….No way……Great job JOE!!!!!……I hate the people that stil bring up the Darko pick….IT WAS 5 YRS AGO LET IT GO!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 18, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree.....
…..Villaneuva tweeted about a big trade coming up…Cant wait….Also theyve rebuiilt the team with two 24 year olds that wil be stars….Cant beat that
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 18, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to feel bad for him, I really do
He was blessed with a golden arm and all it does is malfunction on him.
But when you read about him hearing a pop, and not waving out the catcher or trainer, when you read a quote like “I don’t know how I threw those last three pitches,” and remember the situation — close game against the yankees, bases loaded — you want to strange him. He’s seriously hurt, and he knows he’s seriously hurt, the bases are loaded and he’s not calling out the trainer? What if he grooved batting practice?
Ultimately, it didn’t matter, the Tigers didn’t score again. But he thinks he’s helping the team when in reality, decisions like that can only hurt it and himself. He’ll never learn. They’ll never learn.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 18, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
Zumaya is done......
………Just keep him there all season and dont resign him next year……We always go through this with him.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 18, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
Ok
What about the all of the games he sucked ass before last night? Other than the fact that he just purely sucked anyway since coming back from the DL earlier this season. Also Can Leyland be put on the DL? Maybe he needs a stint in Toledo too.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
you gotta wonder
if having a guy who throws it 100 all the time throw 50 pitches in more than one appearance is really smart
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 18, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
How convenient
Another bad outing that would have led to him pitching outside of the setup role (at least for awhile), instead now some time off on the DL. His control has been terrible for the most part lately and that puts him into situations where it becomes even more difficult to work in any of his secondary pitches. And the way he buries games that we should be winning may be the difference between us and the playoffs already. He can’t keep living off of the ‘06 season. If he gets it together great, but until then he’s nothing more than the 8th inning equivalent of Willis or Miner (gets a million chances though). This is how I’d like to see the bullpen in tight games for the time being:
7th: Perry or Lyon
8th: Ni
9th: Rodney
w/ Seay at the necessary time
by ryan_matthews28 on Jul 18, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions
Here's an idea.
7th Inning- Starting Pitcher
8th Inning- Lyon
9th Inning- Crookedhat
At some point we need a bigger lead than one run. No matter who is coming out of the pen.
We’ve scored four runs in two days in New York. You just aren’t going to beat that team in that tricked-up park with four runs in two days.
Sounds like a BS story . I guess I’d tell everyone my arm was hurting too after getting lit up .
Either he’s lying or to prideful to admit he screwed up , either way he needs to man up .
They should have gotten rid of him after spring training when they might have gotten something for him . Now all they will get is a stale bottle of Bud
by a stranger in town on Jul 20, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions

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