Game 90: Tigers at Yankees
Detroit Tigers at New York Yankees, Jul 19, 2009 2:05 PM EDT
Edwin Jackson (7-4, 2.52) vs.
Joba Chamberlain (4-2, 4.25), 2:05 p.m. EST
The Tigers have suffered two tough losses at Yankee Stadium this weekend, thanks largely to their underperforming lineup. Can they salvage a win today (and maintain at least a full-game lead over White Sox)?
For the Yankees, Joba Chamberlain is winless in his past three starts, allowing 10 earned runs in 13.2 innings. He's also given up nine hits in each of those games and failed to pitch through the fifth inning in the last two. However, Chamberlain probably pitched his best game of the season against the Tigers at Comerica Park in late April. Pitching seven innings, he gave up just one run and three hits. His six strikeouts also tied his second-highest total for the year.
Edwin Jackson breezed through his appearance in Tuesday's All-Star Game, needing only four pitches to get through a perfect fifth inning. And with five days of rest since then, he should be fully rested for today's start. Before the All-Star break, Jackson broke a four-game winless streak with a victory over the Indians, holding them to one run and four hits over seven innings. A key to the win, however, was the Tigers' lineup scoring more than three runs for him.
The last time Jackson faced the Yankees, he pitched a scoreless six innings, allowing only four hits. (Detroit lost that game, however, due to a disastrous seventh inning from Ryan Perry, Nate Robertson, and Brandon Lyon that led to 10 runs.) But his lineup didn't score any runs for him that night. And given how the Tigers' offense has performed in the first two games of this series, that could be a problem for Jackson again.
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Yep
and who wouldn’t be rooting for the guy. He’s a class act, and a great story.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
yes
And I get golf barely more than soccer. Or tennis (but at least the math makes more sense).
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
I get that part
I don’t know why it goes bogey, double bogey, triple bogey, and so on if you are horrible on one hole, and it doesn’t go birdie, double birdie if you do well. And eagle isn’t twice a bird – it IS a bird.
But that’s just a minor quibble. Even someone who doesn’t know the difference between a wood or an iron (and aren’t they all made out of graphite or something by now?) can understand the importance of a good putt.
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USA Soccer
Kurt – you watch the USA Panama game yesterday? what a game.
Watson’s last putt on 18 was the worst stroke hes put on the ball all week. Watson is definitely a class act and it was nice to root for someone who wasn’t Tiger Woods, but that last putt shows the separation. Woods would have stepped on the figurative throat and finished the tournament then and there, before taking his private helicopter back to his gigantic yacht and supermodel wife.
Yeah I did
I’m actually glad the US has the “B” team out there, because they seem to play a different style and it’s pretty entertaining. They were so close to finishing a couple of those goals, too.
It was just an all-around really good, fast, physical game.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely room for improvement
Boylan or whatever his name was in center back for Panama was playing strong safety more than he was playing center back. I felt bad for Ching he got knocked around all day… also the look on Conrads face when got knocked out was priceless.
I gotta say I love watching Beckerman with the dreads flying around the middle. He gambled on his finish but it paid off and the ball found his foot. It was really cool to see a lot of those young guys out there playing there hearts out.
I'm still ticked
US-Mexico from Azteca next month is only on Telemundo. It should be a hugely entertaining game, and it’s either in spanish if you get telemundo (which I don’t) or english if you’re in the very limited “Mun2” audience.
I hope something happens to expand that to a network I actually get by the time of the game. NBC does own Telemundo, after all.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That is poor decision making by NBC
I happen to think theres a giant market for US MNT that goes untapped. Theres a lot of soccer fans in America who are less than enthused about the MLS and so the US MNT is the only team they can really identify or root for.
In fact, I’ve brought up the idea of starting a US MNT blog for SBNation, but the idea kind of petered out because work has been crazy lately. What do you think Kurt?
Agree on both points. I hardly watch the MLS. I watched the Galaxy-Red Bull game to see how Beckham and Donovon played together, but I don’t typically watch because the MLS is seldom good soccer. But I hate to miss when the USMNT plays. They’re easy to root for and have so much heart.
There’s really not too many soccer blogs out there period. If you have the time, I say go for it.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I'll ask:
USMNT? What the heck is that?
And I’ve heard from a lot of people that they like soccer but they don’t watch the MLS because just because they like soccer doesn’t mean they like bad soccer. It makes me doubt that soccer will ever “break through” in a big way because people who develop a fondness for the sport will watch better play – no one is limited to local sports only with the internet (although sometimes it takes a few online shenanigans, of course).
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USMNT = U.S. Men’s National Team. It just differentiates it as being the main team, rather than say the under-age-21 team or something.
I think ESPN gave soccer a boost with having the european Champions League on live in the afternooons. You want to know what soccer should look like, watch that. Going from that to the MLS sometimes feels like going from the Tigers to the White Caps. I think a pretty solid amount of people have access to Fox Soccer Channel, too. So you find a lot of soccer fans have an English Premier League team they root for. It has both live and time-delayed matches for the major european leagues.
The MLS’s big boost is having a guy like Landon Donovon playing for the LA Galaxy — to me, that’s a bigger boost than having David Beckham there, because of Donovon’s personality and ability … and American-ness.
I’m not sure soccer will ever break through in the US either. It has pockets. The Seattle Sounders average attendance is the same as the Tigers. Portland should do well, too. I think it will end up renationalized like hockey. But it’s definitely growing nationwide.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Playoffs?! Playoffs? You're talking about PLAYOFFS!?
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
and the golf goes to extra innings
Bonus!
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
Lineup for today
1. Curtis Granderson, CF
2. Placido Polanco, 2B
3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
4. Marcus Thames, DH
5. Clete Thomas, RF
6. Brandon Inge, 3B
7. Josh Anderson, LF
8. Gerald Larid, C
9. Ramon Santiago, SS
Hopefully, we can take it to sweet little 8 pound, six ounce Baby JOBA today...

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
Guy I work with...
found out his girlfriend’s been cheating on him with Dusty Ryan. No wonder he hates the Tigers.
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And I didn’t think Dusty could hit anything. Guess I was wrong.
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Dusty "Rhodes" Ryan? Adulterer?

His tumor would NOT approve!
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
frame it
It’s an easy way to keep things both visible and not crumpled.
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Hey Yogi!
By the looks of his lumbering, AFLAC better still be in place.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
the nice thing about mlb.com
I can watch the game while a bunch of people walk through the grass in Scotland.
The Tigers have NOT batted over .270 any month this year...
ugh. That is ugly.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
YOU HEAR THAT TIGERS?
“Roughed up in last few starts?” FOLLOW SUIT, don’t do him any fucking favors.
On that note,
how many of the 19 have been POP UP OUTS? The Shef syndrome is pissing me off!
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
seriously.
at some point the tigers have to get unlucky and actually get a hit, right?
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Tiger squanders
This has been a problem all season long
What happens when you devote your entire offseason to pitching and offense, cut Sheff, and build your offense around Guillen and Maggs.
powerful numbers
14 million and Sheff, Guillen DL, and Maggs platooning on the short side
TBS is f&^&ing up!
Just broke into a Kroger commercial….um, the inning wasn’t over!
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
Ill need to look up the translation
for that.
It originates in the Welsh town of
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
they were typing up the city charter
and the typewriter keys all got stuck together, right?
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure I'm a fan of
left field today. I don’t totally blame Anderson for that; Yanks had the same problem (for better results) earlier.
Hey...
For what it’s worth, my gut is worried about the pitching moreso than the offense today.
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given the Tigers' offense, that's really saying something
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Now, it could always be a pitching meltdown CAUSED by a lack of offense
You can’t rule that out. Guys’ll eventually crack under pressure (or, in the case of Zumaya, shoulders).
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks, Alli
about that TBS tip….I didn’t know that was happening.
now, to hope it’s a game worth watching, since it’s so rare that I get to see the Tigers play.
I like that bit of yankee squaderage from a-roid
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Maroons...I use to use that all the time.
I’ll have to pull that out of the file room more often.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
tigers sure do swing
at some carzy strike zones
Gerald, you gotta hit the ball the OTHER way
The jetstream is in RIGHT field
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Maybe they should just put a ferris wheel out there today.
The circus is in left!
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
Wait, wait, wait...
A guy on the OPPOSING team balked? You don’t say?
why can't the Tigers hit like Jimmy Rollins?
he’s got a single, double and triple, just in the first three innings…
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Hey, those are off of Andrew Miller
Rollins must’ve gotten it figured out. Last time I checked, he was hitting, like, .221
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I guess
I will watch Marlins games from time to time. He’s had some good starts, but he’s still wild most of the time and walks a bunch of people.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So we didnt lose much by trading him
I mean we have enough of our own wildness
I really think
Maybin and Miller were over rated. They’re still young of course. But really, they just don’t seem like big losses to me.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
everyone was soooo high on those two
I was hoping they wouldnt be really great players. that we let go
of course "The Real Deal " tag
was placed on Darko also.
Curtis Granderson
He is beyond baseball. That is a great commercial.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
Now, I'm at a bad angle...
but that 3-2 pitch looked like it was right down the middle
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Amazing
Haven’t seen a play like that from the boys in a long time.
Suppose they can give some run support to Edwin
today?
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for future reference
That ice cream cake is awesome with Ben & Jerry’s chocolate fudge brownie as the ice cream. :-)
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It's so good
I baked it with cherry garcia and Yum.
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cherry garcia is my favorite so far
I’m glad you liked it. :)
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I was gonna do chunky monkey
but I love the cherry chip cake mix so much I thought I’d try that. OMG delicious
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Just wondering
I have the Tigers on gamecast and I am watching the Cubs play the Nationals on WGN. Watching this game I am starting to wonder if the Nationals may be worse than the 2003 Tigers. Anyone else think they can lose 120 games?
by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
that would be quite a challenge
you know what amazes me? Look at the Padres’ scoring differential.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
At least the Nationals have Ryan Zimmerman and Adam Dunn
The 2003 Tigers didn’t really have anybody.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you forget about
Dimitri Young and Carlos Pena?
by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 19, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
They only have to win 17 more games not to
Even for a team that bad, that’s a reachable total.
I agree
but watching them today all I can say is that it wouldn’t shock me.
by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 19, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
it makes 2003 that much more impressive
Which is why I called it a giant sucking cluster of suck.
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Can we please capitalize on a lead off walk?
PLEASE!
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
Stewart Cink wins in 4 hole playoff
one less distraction for the remainder of this game.
by tigerfaninChicago on Jul 19, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
Well, golf wasn't gonna distact me much anyways
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh
To me, the Yankees are just another team. It’s the Red Sox I can’t stand.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yupyup
“Red Sox Nation” annoys me. I’d rather see the Yankees finish ahead of them every year.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
See
I don’t mind the RedSox… Yankees I loathe. lol
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Or strike out...
… that’s cool too. Ha, to hell with this team.
Whoa...ZOOM OUT CAMERA
I didn’t need a face full of Miggy.
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and leyland says he doesn't get on the computer
he’s reading the gamethread!!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Many Jim thinks we have a better chance when runners aren't in SP.
by StringTheory on Jul 19, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
So glad I'm leaving town for two weeks
Won’t have to put up with this team’s bullshit for two weeks, they’ll probably be in third when I get back.
No Tiger frustration
Just Myrtle Beach sun.
Sure is
First time back there in two years.
FUCK TBS!
Now I have a comcast (DEVIL) commercial.
I am switching back to the laptop.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
that's because they haven't played yet
No losses!
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
of course having season tickets as long as I have had them.
Makes me a bit crazy especially living 3 hours away
dammit
This team may drive me to drink.
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Off-topic, but...
Is there anyone here who lives in Ann Arbor and is familiar with the Kroger on Plymouth Road? I have to go there on Wednesday and I haven’t been to Ann Arbor since I was 8, so I’d appreciate knowing what else is in that area so I’m not just looking for one Kroger sign.
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I don't have any direct help.
But I can tell you Google Earth is a wonderful program for such questions.
by StringTheory on Jul 19, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Would they stop giving credit to A-Rod for the Yankees doing better?!
They started playing better because they started pitching better. A-Rod has nothing to do with that.
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i'd rather try that solution
than the IcyHot one.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
well I don't particulary like him either
but he has OPS’ed over .900 since coming back vs. Cody Ransom or who ever else they plugged in there it has been a huge upgrade and helped the team …not the pitching though.
I hate A-Rod
More than I hate the Yankees in general. He’s such a phoney.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
What I don't get is how he always gets so many votes for the All-Star Game
In my entire life, I have met ONE person who likes A-Rod. Yankees fans don’t like him because he doesn’t do anything in the postseason, and everyone else doesn’t like him because he plays for the Yankees. So where are all those votes coming from?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The other day I read
Selig told the managers what pitchers they could use in what innings and for how long. Talk about bullshit. I wonder how the managers make through the season without his head up their asses. Must be hard.
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By the way...
That one person was one of my old roommates. She was an Indians fan in college, but then she married a Yankees fan so she switched allegiances, although she tells everyone she’s a Yankees fan because of A-Rod
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
you marry a guy, not his team too!
Sports slut.
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boo and hiss
I dare anyone who wants to live tell me I cannot root for My Boys
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I'd be annoyed too...
But seeing as how much I hate the Indians, becoming a Yankees fan is an improvement.
But yeah, I roomed with an Indians fan AND a White Sox fan (we did all get along very well, though).
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Loathe all 3 of the
previously mentioned teams
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He's the Yankee
I loathe the most… girly man
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All I am hoping for
is a tad of run support for Edwin
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They’ve relaxed that team rule in the past in certain situations, guessing this is one.
That, and remember that Old Man Steinbrenner isn’t really calling the shots day-to-day anymore.
by john.kmiecik on Jul 19, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He can't see it.
Ever seen “Weekend At Bernie’s”? I think he is bordering on that.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
How comes the box score just said
the yanikees had the error. When it was ours?
The Official Hymn of the Tigers 2009 Season
We love to go asquandering
It’s been this year’s disgrace
No matter who is at the plate
We’re always left on base
Tigerreeee Tigerrrah
Tigereeeee Tiger hahahahaha
Tigereeeee Tigerrahhhh
We’ll soon be in third place.
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you know, folks
If you click on the “actions” link in the post, and then click on “recommend” the comment will turn green after a couple of people recommend it. That way it will be easier to see who was particularly funny in each thread. :-)
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No, he isn't
They have no money to spend.
Polly doesn't strike me a the kind of guy
to demand a ton more than he’s already making. I don’t think money would stop him from coming back.
if they need money then dump other guys
Off cliffs, in the ocean, drop them off in the woods to be eaten by bears – there are always ways.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
The 2010 2B free agent market isn’t exactly deep, either. Polanco should be able to command a raise.
The question is, will Illitch dig deeper? Can he? His raise to stay in town should be modest, Polanco hasn’t kept it a secret that he loves playing in Detroit. And unlike Willis, Polly has proven daily that he can play top tier defense and work the batters box pretty damn well.
by john.kmiecik on Jul 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Illich said
he’ll do what he needs to do to produce a winning team
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I sure hope so
Because that means opening the wallets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! None of that nonsense like last offseason.
DD
seems to think Guillen will be our saving grace.
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Plus
Scott Sizemore has hit at every level. Sooner or later, they have to give him a chance. Some youth might serve this team well. Ultimately, I too want Polly back though.
The thought has occured to me...
Teams used to shuffle their rotation around so that they’d have their righties starting against the Tigers because of the lack of lefties in our lineup. Do you suppose they might begin sending more lefty starters to the mound just so they’d guarantee having Magglio in the lineup and not Clete Thomas?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s quite a shakeup to just get to Magglio instead of Clete. It’s not like Clete can’t hit.
by john.kmiecik on Jul 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Er...
Wow. Ignore that last statement. Not sure what I was thinking there.
by john.kmiecik on Jul 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember the days
when pitchers were shaking in their shoes seeing Maggs at the plate.
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I still love him
but mostly just to look at, these days.
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Alright Clete
Observe A-Rod; that, is a dinger.
Clete found the jet stream!
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now brandon, you take a lesson from how Clete did that
oops, too late
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Do teams lose or throw away their scouting reports on Thomas when he goes to Toledo?
Because it seems every time he comes back up, he mashes for a few weeks, and then slumps.
ok next time we get a RISP
Someoe needs to find the new rally mascot
I demand
Next time they drill him in the ass with a fastball.
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ass won't get a pitcher tossed out
At least not as likely.
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EJ, How could you?
When Clete worked so hard to give you a lead?
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To be fair
Our pitchers should not have to view one run in support as a gift. To hell with our offense.
Yeah, but isn't it an unwritten rule that when your team scores...
you have to put up a zero the following inning? Otherwise the other team gets the momentum back?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
no one informed Arrrrrmando of that one either
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
if I rolled my tongue for real
it sounsd like a dying helicopter or a broken lawnmower or something.
Actually I think that would be an improvement.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I am just impressed
when people can speak Spanish. That’s all.
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Did he do something that I missed?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Tigs have been TERRIBLE at that this year.
Shut up Mario
“that homerun was just a little more impressive than yesterday’s”. Puke
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They score another run and I'm turning this off
I’ve got better things to do.
Yay!
Yankees strand a couple.
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well if thats the case
Don’t they have 2 more to go?
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Rod and Mario = Fail
No, guys, not a typical EJ game. Jackson doesn’t give up walks.
Time for Rod to say
You gotta get them early before they settle in
Yeah, but it made me laugh
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i likes it when curtis triples
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Woooooo!!!!!!
That was a g d TRIPLE!
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Grandy has got to be our MVP this year
Is there anything he isnt doing?
He just makes things happen
stealing bases, triples, homers. just fun watching
I guess so
but grandy has done everything except hit for average.
Grandy
can leap tall buildings in a single bound, if he wants to.
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Sick og hearing about how great
Cano is too. SO FN WHAT!
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He wouldn't walk Polanco to set up the double play, would he?
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Or hit him
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that's one way to do it
a painful way, mind you…
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Polly
keeps gettin the crap knocked of him … all year.
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Stop abusing Polanco, you troglodytes!
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Guillen
Someone above said DD thinks Guillen will save us.
I don’t know what DD actually thinks, but this is insane. I’m in favor of dropping Ordoñez and Guillen away, be done with them. Left field has been alright, we have enough kids capable of playing out there that we can cover it. Santiago/Everett, whom I refer to as The Shortstop collectively, are fine in that position (even though it’s doubtful Guillen would play at SS). Thames can DH, though another bat at the trade wouldn’t hurt to shore up the batting (which we’ve seen has been awful this series).
I really dread Guillen being activated.
I am not sure DD has said that,
but Leyland has said that Guillen could be their “trade”.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
Guillen
was our all star last year. AND yes he is in huge decline, but I would like to see him come back this year just to see what he’s got.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
I saw him on the pregame
either yesterday or the day before, talking about how the Tigers may not acquire anyone because Guillen is going to be back and he’s expected to do well on both sides of the plate and he’s a switch hitter and on and on… I have NO faith in Guillen, unless they include a roll of duct tape upon his return, he’s gonna need it. He won’t last 2 weeks.
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This is my feeling. With turning the page on the Joel Zumaya saga, I think we need to start moving on as a team.
by john.kmiecik on Jul 19, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
SON OF A BITCH
A FUCKING DEEP FLYBALL, THAT’S ALL IT TAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From a mechanical standpoint...
What is the deal with all the pop ups?
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I'm going to get yelled at for this...
What could Polanco bring in a trade? Think we could get a decent young OF bat for him and then promote Scott Sizemore?
Yeah, but Sizemore wouldn't be as good defensively
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And he might not even be ready
That’s got Cameron Maybin written all over it.
I'm with this comment
I’d rather keep Polly around for his D this year.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But as far as trade chips…
I WANT A BAT!!!!!!!!!
by David Tokarz on Jul 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
why must you swing at that trash, Marcus? Whyyyyyyyyyyy?
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Well, it wasn't pretty...
but Chamberlain DID follow the rule that EJ did not.
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how many times have they
stranded Grandy at third when they have had less than 2 outs?
For !@#$%^&*!@#$%^&* sakes
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
i'd trade our version for theirs
but they wouldnt!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't
Chamberlain is overrated.
And at least Zumaya doesn’t get DUIs.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
But
I haven’t heard about him walkin’ ’em home either
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who, Laird
I can see it. What was he wearing when he got busted? Catchers gear?
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
King Felix on wednesday?
Ha, good luck with that.
"The Squanderers" is, actually, more like a soap opera
complete with plot lines recycled ad nauseum
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Second Official Hymn of the Tiger 2009 Season (Apologies to Dion)
Oh we’re the type of team that gives away a win
We’re always left on base, we’re never batted in
And when we get a chance to break open a game
There’s never any doubt, the result’s always the same
Cuz we’re the squanderers, yeah the squanderers.
And we’re left on and on and on and on and on
Whoever said French is pitching on Thursday was right.
Tag, was that you.
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I could probably
be like a mother to you, but I got no $$$
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thats about
the score of my credit report…..lol
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I'm going on Thursday and would like to see a win.
It’s Christmas in July
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Oh Bejeezuz!
Says it’s supposed to be 83, but knowing the weather here, I may want to take my winter coat.
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it's like spring training all over again for getting his timing
not that I count on him. But you can’t read much into things
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
They were expecting that from Maggs too.
and look at him this year. Just sad. Poor Maggs.
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Okay. Our streak is 0-20 with RISP.
I think, if I understand the tool on baseball-reference correctly: The record is 28 by the ’09 Cardinals, which is the longest streak since 1954.
Speaking of prospects
saw Casey Crosby pitch on Thursday. He was pulled after giving up 4 runs in an inning. So, no, our prospects are not the greatest.
that was his worst start of the season
Guy’s got top-100 potential.
by David Tokarz on Jul 19, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
This guy excites me more than Inglorious Basterds- and I’m in love with Quentin Tarentino.
by David Tokarz on Jul 19, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Those who don't learn from history...
… are doomed to repeat it. I’ve seen enough, fuck this team.
what about making
a ‘below the radar trade’ for an above average centerfeilder who is above average offensively against lefties to platoon with Grandy. That would help a little and Guillen could be a good platoon with Thames against tougher lefties. I ain’t holding out for a ’big bat.
the bigger question is
who’s going down when Carlos comes back?
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Anyone in the dugout....
……none are hitting!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
that is a great question
I imagine they won’t want to do anything that can’t be undone
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
hes also out of options....
….Wed have to release….rather see anderson be cut then raburn
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He might.....
….I think hes out though
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Anderson was discussed before. I believe it was stated he has no more options. So he would be DFA, correct?
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I say
buh-bye, Neo. His speed is good, buth there are others who can hit and run.
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CRAZY idea
send down Dusty Ryan and have Inge be back-up catcher for a while?
SF did it with Pablo Sandoval in the 1st half
true
but c’mon. Maggs has numbers like this and everyone wants to crucify him, trade him, bench him, release him and on and on- but this guy…I like him ok. But Tigers could do better.
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How much will Maggs actually make if he doesn’t reach his total numbers?
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I don't know
I think he makes the same regardless….the numbers only factor into whether or not he gets the automatic contract extensions to kick in
And he’s much (or was much more) of a player
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I'm just saying that's why people are calling for him to be cut and not Anderson
plus Anderson will get better as the years go on, but Maggs has passed that point and will get worse as the years go on
lol
not like that… I wouldn’t hurt him first.
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I would
for real. I would take care of him.
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I don't know you, so I don't have any bias
but if you are larger in size, maybe something else…but if not, then that!
I am not tiny
but not huge. Latin men like meaty women. He would be pleased
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I agree....
….Hes out of options…So wed have to cut him….Doesnt matter hes not worth it
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Are You kidding.....
……Weve given up 8 runsi n 3 games to NY……Are pitching isnt the problem….Its the bats!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Great Pitching No Hitting.....
…..Nohting new there….we need guillen back I heard hes 3 – 12 in Lakeland….Just geting his timing down….CANT WAIT!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
Actually...
The Yankees have more hits and Jackson has walked more than Joba Chamberlain has. The only reason their offense has not been looked upon as dysfunctional is because the home runs they HAVE hit have been the difference in every game of this series. That’s what I mean by keeping the Yankees in the ballpark.
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This is exhibit A concerning the meaninglessness of the W-L stat.
Jackson will sadly lose this game.
It’s too bad. He deserves better from his outings.
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Verlander typically gets run support, though
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the general consensus around here is that the Twins are better than the Tigers...
but Minnesota was swept in a four-game series at Yankee Stadium, and their losses were a lot uglier.
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Reminds me of a song want ta hear it? Here it go
Where oh where has our tiger’s bats gone?
Oh where oh where can they be?
Well, y'all wanted the Tigers to not strand runners?
You got your wish.
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No biggie....
….getin swept by yanks……Im actually not as mad as if it were chicago or min
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
Or Boston
Or Cleveland
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
why are long fly balls so hard to get for the tigers
When there is a guy on third with 1 out
Not a easy thing to do......
…….when you think about it….instead of just swinging hard
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
and 1 for 26 with RISP
seems so flukey. Their offense is really not this bad, I don’t think its great, but they probably get 13 hits in their next 26 risp ab’s. Hopefully starting this game.
And the Yankees have not been very good at RISP either
They just keep leaving the yard.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.....
……Youve made that point several times now
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
if they're saving up their RISP hitting
four games against chicago next weekend is a great time to unveil it.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
If faced with a choice between lighting up the Yankees and lighting up the White Sox, I’ll take the White Sox. It won’t get you on national television, but it’s more important.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
well, Tigers are on Sunday Night Baseball next week… a fact I am already afraid of.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m gonna get a coffee too, but I’ll buy that.
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I love their coffee. I get one almost every morning on my way to work.
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Yeah I usually get regular Tim Horton's
caramel macchiato from Starbucks every once in a while if I’m feeling unthrifty
actually I usually just make my own
I got a pound of Arabian Mocha Sannani from Starbucks for my birthday.
I usually have 2 cups at home and then the large tim’s for work. NO I am not wired.
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Looking at the Teixiera home run...
I think he’s proven that he can handle low fastballs. SO QUIT THROWING THEM TO HIM.
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Hes Awesome......
…….Not much you can do with him
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured this would happen......
……NY is a great team and we faced there 3 best pitchers……If ya dont hit ya dont win……Its only 3 games so its no time to overreact…..We will get back on track on Tuesday.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
A sweep is never a good thing.
Especially a sweep where you give one game away and have anemic scoring in the other two. The starting pitching is doing very well and it is a shame the Tigers can’t do anything at the plate.
Yes It Does....
…….But We Still in 1st!!!!!…..Not the end of the world.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya Mean......
….anemic hitting in 3 games really.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
well their
6th in the AL with RISP at .271(I guess OPS. w/ RISP would be better but not really horrible and better than than Twins who are at .266) and fourth in the AL with 2 outs. so not too bad.
Exactly.....
……Just a fluke series….It happens
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
well the team is 11th of 14 in average, 10th in OBP and 9th in slugging.
That doesn’t exactly say “good offense” to me.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Does.....
…..The hitting coach really matter……I mean these guys are big league hitters…..You only hear about the hitting coach when things are bad…..I didnt hear about the hitting coach doing a great job with Arod all these years……Its all about the professional hitter making adjustments….Dont blame the hitting coach.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
YES HE DOES
The pitchers are big league pitcher too. Look at the difference now that Chuck is gone and Knapp is here. Look at how the Indians bullpen is doing this year. And look how our starters are doing. There are many factors involved in hitting. Any number of things. I say it is partly Lloyd’s fault. I also believe he’s still here because he’s Leyland’s buddy. And If our hitting keeps going the way it is, look for Lloyd to be gone too, just like Leyland’s buddy Chuck
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Jackson has been great today.....
…….the only pitcher that gets any blame in this series is Zumaya……The bats better wake up!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So is there anything about this team that you guys like?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I like alot.
They play defense, have good starting pitching but the lack of run support drives me crazy. I hate seeing good pitching efforts go unrewarded.
Ands Fernando.....
…..Perfect in save situations!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We still have time for the win
I have seen it happen, people.
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BIG INNING COMING UP!!!!!
…..I feel it yall…….Lets all sing a song…….I can ride my bike with no handle bars…No handle bars….No handle bars……I can ride my bike with no handle Bars….No handle bars
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
Its is.....
….but it poped in my head and if it works……I will continue to use it.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
any song......
….not by dave matthews isnt a good song
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It is only 1 run.
even though everything has been shaky this game
To help the effort, an unnamed woman, with a beautiful shirt on,

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
I am sure you have dated all kinds of women that were hotter, but it was more about the shirt.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
Any girl I have dated would certainly look better in that shirt
Although I like to think I date cute girls.
Thames.....
…..Hitting one in the seats…….You just wait!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
Excuse us,
we’re trying to sulk here. :P
by StringTheory on Jul 19, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Clete......
…..always strieks out in big situations
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
Well I mean.....
…..fails more often then others
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup.....
….thats itreally……I like him but he fails a lot in big situations…..way to many
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
at least the Tigers don't have a donut on the board
thanks a certain Mr. Thomas
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
+10
Kurt, you are really bucking for the comment of the day here.
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How do you get the topic to just have exclamation points?
I can’t get it to do that.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I need a sedative and a laxative
I just wanna sleep through this and I don’t wanna deal with this crap.
It's pretty simple....
You can hear them saying, “here kitty, kitty, kitty” as they throw another high fastball that a Tiger will chase.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
omg
what is up with these high swings at balls out of the stirke zone
Didn't we do that all the time in '06?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You must be new......
….to tigers baseball
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Starters 5 er in 19 innings......
…..in this series…..ERA of 2.37 should be good for 2 wins…….Oh wait…..we don hit and swing at balls up at the eyes
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
Back in '07
If they knew what we know now about A-Rod, you think Magglio may have gotten MVP?
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Brunettes.....
…..are totally more fun the Blondes!!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Jackson......
…..is saying……Why you get all the runs…..JV does get a ton more runs then Jackson
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I can just imagine.
Edwin: I hear there is this mythical land where teams score runs for their pitchers.
Justin: I visit there every now and then. You get wins and magical unicorn rides there too.
Edwin: …damn it.
In the 9th.....
……Inge, Anderson, larid…….Pinch Hit…..Pich Hit….Pinh Hit……None of the 3 have done anything in this series
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions
Neither have Raburn, Maggs, Dusty Ryan, or Everett
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
But I’d chance it with Raburn over Anderson.
by David Tokarz on Jul 19, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup.....
…..I say PH for all 3……try something different
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I forgot......
…..about the ball that went through his legs Friday night…..And his mis judged popup today
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He also had an outfield assist on Friday
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, 700+ comments
i’ll make an overflow if the gods favor the tigers this half inning
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t love the rise of batting stance guy, but his Polly rounding the bases impression is pretty good
Do you know why brunettes love their hair color so much?
Because it matches their mustache.
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thats Funny.....
…..Stil rather have a brunette then a blonde
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 19, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
quick marriage
a few days ago you said you got back from visiting minnesota with your girflriend
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT?
did I just hear Mario say Maggs picked up a bat?
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Well, you guys wanted a pinch-hitter
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn't had many of those recently
Seriously. That’s the first of this series.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This game should have been 2-2
All they needed was a fly ball when granderson was on third
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by Ian Casselberry on Jul 19, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
that's what he and verlander were discussing!
“man, must be great to be a yankee. you know, they don’t even have to pay me that much with those batters.”
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 19, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Every game
is a biggy from Friday forward. This half of the season is for ALL the marbles
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We'd better not get swept by the Red Sox
That would REALLY suck
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We're better against the AL West anyways
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
On the bright side...
Chicago and Cleveland have both lost
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Those 52% of people who want to see the Yankees MORE are nuts...
I’d rather have the Tigers play games they can WIN, like ones against the west
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THANKS ZUMAYA
Series could have easily been a sweep in our favor. We need a BAT. And when did Cabrera turn into the Polanco of old? Just shows that we’ve really turned into the Mets of the AL.
by ryan_matthews28 on Jul 19, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions
How is the struggling offense Zumaya's fault?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 19, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
No words
to express the disgust with another 2-1 loss. The Patheticons are back.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti

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