Morning Prowl: Thoughts on Zumaya, Porcello's Schedule, Grandy's Philanthropy, and Polanco's Bad Luck
Jon Paul Morosi wonders if Joel Zumaya's latest injury complicates the Tigers' plans for the trade deadline. Is bullpen help more of a priority now? Ryan Strieby (17 HR at Double-A) is noted as one of Detroit's best possible trade chips.
Morosi also says that the Tigers have talked to the Orioles about Luke Scott and Aubrey Huff, but haven't gotten very far. There have also been discussions about Roy Halladay within the front office, but no official contact with the Blue Jays about making such a deal.
Detroit's starting rotation is getting a little shuffle. Rick Porcello (the Tigers' most important second-half player, according to SI.com) will now start on Tuesday against Seattle, with Armando Galarraga going on Wednesday. Originally, it was scheduled the other way around. No reason was given for the change. Perhaps the Tigers want Porcello to pitch sooner. Maybe they want him back in the third slot of the rotation.
Tigers trainer Kevin Rand said Zumaya "re-aggravated the stress fracture" in his right shoulder, and arthroscopic surgery is a possibility, but the medical staff doesn't yet know for certain.
With the announcement that Porcello has "15 starts left," The Detroit Tigers Weblog maps out the rookie's remaining schedule, which should take him right to the end of the season.
The question then becomes, what will Porcello's role be in the postseason if the Tigers make the playoffs? (I can't imagine he's not in the rotation if he pitches meaningful innings during the stretch run.)
Danny Knobler appears to have written the eulogy for Zumaya's career in a weekend blog post for cbssports.com, using a lot of past tense in his opening paragraphs.
Mack Avenue Tigers addresses the concern that Curtis Granderson needs to focus more on baseball (especially his hitting). Lynn Henning brought this up in a column, and Lisa Olson elaborated on the issue in a feature for Fanhouse, in which she speaks to Jim Leyland about Granderson juggling his charity work with his on-the-field duties and overextending himself.
As if the slick plays Derek Jeter made against Detroit over the weekend didn't tell you enough, Tiger Tales says the numbers confirm it: Jeter's defense has gotten better. Exercises to improve his lateral quickness and first step have paid off, and as Rod Allen noted during Saturday's broadcast, playing deeper seems to have made a difference, as well.
Zumaya's replacement in the bullpen, rookie Ryan Perry, is set to take over the seventh-inning role, along with Bobby Seay. Perry's numbers say he's improved his strikeout-to-walk ratio, but Leyland points out that minor league hitters swing at balls that major leaguers don't.
Big Al keeps it short and to the point in a memo to Dave Dombrowski at The Wayne Fontes Experience. I think everyone in Tiger Town would sign, at this point.
Driveline Mechanics linked back to a post they wrote back in April about Zumaya's delivery, and red flags that were raised over the height of his elbow when he rears back to throw and his arm trailing behind when his plant leg comes down.
What's made the difference in Brandon Lyon's improvement this season? According to Rick Knapp, Lyon started throwing a cut fastball, which he wasn't doing earlier in the year. His velocity has also increased over the past couple of months, thanks to improved mechanics.
Fangraphs tries to figure out the reason for Placido Polanco's sub-par season (.257/.315/.388), and finds that he's having bad luck with balls in play, but is also hitting more fly balls than live drives this year. The numbers favor a rebound in the second half, however.
(via KalineCountry's post on the ESPN.com Tigers message board)
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When we make it to the post season
(That’s right when) We will need the young Mr. Porcello. He’s got such talent and I think he’s truly thrown off some of these big bats this year. I cannot imagine them not keeping him rotation in the post-season
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you are such a positive thinker.
So are you saying, “when” Maggs starts hitting too? and “when” Fernando doesn’t throw a roller coaster ninth? Wish I could be so positive.
by VegasTigers on Jul 20, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
No
I just have a feeling we are due for post seaon play.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 20, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Fernando.....
….is awesome……how many teams have a shut down closer?……maybe 8…..they dont grow on trees…..Fernando is doing just fine….We need a starter and a bat…..thats it…..GO TIGS!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Fernando just needs to be kept out of non-save situations
In non-save situations, his mind wanders and he pitches like crap. In save situations he seems to have more focus – he may walk the bases loaded and then strike out the side, but as stressful as it is he does get the job done.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
For Halladay.....
…..I give them whatever they want……any prospect…Porcello….Zumaya….What ever they want!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions
+1
Kurt, you are still bucking for that comment and there’s not even a game today :o) I love your insight.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 20, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Porcello, really?
I wouldn’t. That leaves us with still three quality starters and two questionable back end guys. Halladay is far and away better than Porcello is now, but what’s it matter if we can’t score 3 runs to get Halladay wins anyway?
Halladay’s great and it might work out for this year, but after this season we’d be left with either a 32-to-33-year old pitcher whose passing his prime or nothing. Meanwhile, Toronto gets our 20-year old. I don’t think it’s worth it.
We need a stick first and foremost.
by Detroit4lyfe on Jul 20, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Porcello....
……May not ever be half the pitcher halladay is……Ya never know……Everyone though Kyle Sleeth was gona be the man remember……What happened to him……..Ya just never know……You know what you get with halladay
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
SI.com
Says the Phillies are the team favored to land Halladay. I have no idea what he’s asking for in regard to $$. But if I were the Tigers I would be very careful on the length of time they sign him for (if that ever happens) or which prospects they give up. He is 32 years old and I know some pitchers have a longer careers than others; however, the Tigers seem to get burned with lengthy contracts and/or overpriced players.
I am sure we could all name several right off of the top of our heads. So there is no need to go there. So if they do end up signing Halladay, they should be careful for how many years they do it.
Also Halladay just got back from the DL not too long ago for a pulled hip adductor (groin injury). So is this something that he’s going to completely overcome or will it trouble him in the future? Tigers and high priced contracts do not mix well. Just sayin’
Here is the SI.com article if anyone’s intersested
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/07/19/scoop.monday/
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Porcello
is not going anywhere. IMO.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 20, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It's funny
Before this season most people were saying that anything we could get out of Zumaya would be a bonus to the team. I love the guy, he’s only 24, and has an exciting fastball, but he was garb. He probably did more damage than good to this team, and, thus, was definitely not a bonus. I’m guilty of saying as much.
ive never.....
……Likes Zumaya much……I could tell from day one that he would never be a closer…..Doesnt havew the mentality to handle it…..However it was nice to see a breaking ball develop…..however I think thats why his shoulder is ruined……anyway I say cut the strings with him.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Well geez
then you should be promoted to GM because you’re probably the only person in America who knew from day one Zoom would never be our closer.
by Detroit4lyfe on Jul 20, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I may have been......
…….You tell from people actions and how they handle things if they will be a closer……It has nothing to do with stuff……Zumaya has a closers fastball thats obvious……But he gets to emotional on highs and lows……that doesnt work in the 9th.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Zumaya has very little control over any of his pitches. 101 who cares if they are not strikes. And
I’ve seen Rodney out there a few times sweating up a storm losing his composure but I’ll stick with him for now, I am used to the roller coaster. And it’s not like we have a choice who else do we have?
Also Baroque has a good point by leaving him (Rdoney) out of games where non-save situations are involved.
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And because he thought Dontrelle was God
when we all clearly knew Wieters was/is/always will be God.
Dontrelle
also thought he was God, and was rudley awakened. Probably by Wieters.
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I think you're both gonna take a trip on the elevator in the wrong direction ;)
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 20, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Wepri
and I will hold hands on the way down, so we have some one to discuss baseball and other girly things with when we get there. Right,Wepri?
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I refuse to believe
That any supreme being/force/intelligence/whatever that could invent a duckbilled platypus and a penguin and a moose could possibly NOT have a wonderful sense of humour. :-)
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
that's what the dodo said, too
and you see where that got it!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 20, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I blame people without a sense of humour
If they hadn’t killed it off, it might still be around.
(I wish it was, because I would love to hear what a 30-pound pigeon sounds like.)
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Hey
If life were meant to be rigid we’d all be in the military
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I know some folks were
a bit amazed that the A’s Brett Anderson kicked the Tigers butts (who hasn’t lately?) but did anyone see him take a perfect game into the seventh against the Angels?
Of course the A’s are actually more inept than the Tigers and lost 1-0 in 10 innings, anyway.
Which makes losing to them suck all the more.
I did.....
……We struggle on the road for some reason……Its not just against the a;s…..its everyone we play…..We scored 5 runs in the run friendly Yankee stadium……im not concerned too much yet becasue it was the yanks…..We just need to win the series against Chi and Min……if we win those series we will be in good shape.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Is anyone else but me REALLY hoping that we get Luke Scott?
To me, he’s exactly what we need in the heart of the order and should put our offense over the hump down the stretch. I know we don’t have much farm left to sell but it’s urgent we get a bat.
Oh, did I mention he hits left-handed?
I would like him
if he were a Tiger. Cannot stand him as an Oriole…On my list of Tiger Killers
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I like the idea
as long as he’s as good with us as against us!! I don’t want anymore Luke Scott nightmares.
Would be nice if we got him too.
As soon as I hear the words Tiger Killer…I think of Crede. He is number one on my list
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my number one as well
There is something to be said for getting a guy on your side if for no other reason that he won’t kill you anymore.
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Can't we just find another Tawainese miracle?
I wouldn’t mind having two Fu-Te-Ni’s to finish out games.
Can you really fault Granderson?
All he is trying to do is using his fame to make a difference in the world. If people want to call him out for that then go ahead but it seems like he has his priorities in order to me. He’s an all-star! How can you say that he’s not living up to his potential because he is doing too much charity work.
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