Carlos Guillen Recalled to Detroit, But For What?
The question of where in the Tigers' organization Carlos Guillen was seems to have been answered.
He wasn't in Lakeland (where he went 3-for-12 in five games). He wasn't in Toledo last night, though all indications were that he was to join the Mud Hens for the next stage of his rehab assignment. But Guillen may be in Detroit. Freep.com reported this afternoon that the Detroit Tigers recalled him from the minors. Yet he wasn't activated to the major league roster, which only raises more questions. So what's the story?
Guillen's rehab assignment appears to be on hold, and he was likely recalled so that he could get checked out, according to Jason Beck.
Reports over the weekend were that soreness had developed once again in Guillen's shoulder, making it difficult for him to throw and swing (especially from the right side). Between that, and the .250/.438/.333 batting line in Single-A, the Tigers probably weren't going to activate him until he got some at-bats in Triple-A.
As Beck points out, this doesn't mean that Guillen has suffered a serious setback in his recovery. But this isn't exactly encouraging news, either.
The timing of this might be fortuitous for the Tigers, as well. Now, instead of wondering whether or not they should pursue a trade for another hitter because Guillen could be back, they know that it's probably going to be a while before he can rejoin the team. At the very least, his rehab has been pushed closer to the trade deadline.
This also saves Detroit from making a tough roster decision. Who would've gone if and when Guillen was activated? Ryan Raburn is arguably playing well enough to be the full-time left fielder. Marcus Thames gives the lineup some of its only thunder. And though Josh Anderson hasn't played well recently, his speed can be a valuable weapon off the bench in late innings. For now, however, neither player has to get squeezed out.
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Probably for an MRI!
It’s a terrible thing, but I was dreading his return unless he was 100% healthy.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I was thinking the same thing
and the thought of surgery even passed through my head for a minute.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Who Cares.....
…..who gets squeezed when you get a all star back…i dont get why people dont want him in the d!!!!…..Cant wait to see Carlos back out there!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 21, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
I want to see a Healthy
Carlos out there. Not one with a sore shoulder going 3 for 12.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Amen chik
He’s gotta have some pop. There are enough .2something bats in this lineup already.
ballgirl13
I guess I mean
I dont care if Raburn or Anderson get squezzed…..Guillen is a .300 career hitter
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 21, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I would Keep
Raburn and lose Anderson, if i were the Tiger’s Brass.
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I wish it was that easy
Yes, sending Anderson down makes sense based on what he provides. But, he has no options. He would have to pass through waivers, and would likely get claimed. Only Raburn and Thomas have options. Between the two, it should be Raburn. Of course, the other option is to release Mags.
by hockeydad55 on Jul 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess again.....
Guillen is a career .288 hitter and much lower than that from the right side. He has had only 3 seasons out of 12 getting more than 500 AB’s. He is a constant injury concern and has been a defensive disaster the last few years wherever he has played. He is not the answer the Tigers need to make a run for the title. The Tigers should be looking for someone along the lines of a Luke Scott to fill the left hand void in their line-up.
I saw an interview
With DD the other day and he stated that They were not looking to acquire anyone. Carlos os coming back and he will provide the bat The Tigers need. Personally, I think he’s full of crap.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
former all star?
why not a former batting champion?
Let’s make sure to start Ordonez every game, too! He used to be good, right?
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 21, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Vegas
Every time Maggs steps to the plate my heart pounds and I say c’mon Maggs, do it. You got it in you. Do it. Every time he hits I get so fn happy, I can’t tell you. The day he hit the 2 run homer of off Lilly – tears welled up in my eyes. So yes, I think he’ll get better. I have faith in him. Whether he get the opportunity to do it in Detroit or not, well that’s a different story.
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I knew you would say something like that.
I feel the same. I say tonight is the night he breaks out!
Others may not feel like I do
but I am excited he’s in the line-up tonight. He’ll also be in the line-up Thursday. Jarrod Washburn is a lefty. Maggs is beyond due for a good night. He can do it. He has it in him, just needs to find the sweet spot and let it go.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Mags
He simply is not hitting the ball hard. He hits what seems like a million ground balls, and most of his hits are just seeing eye balls through or just over the infield. Last night a guy pitching very badly hangs a breaking ball and Mags knocks it out. I’m glad he did, but it doesn’t mean he’s back. He knocked one out that most RH hitters should’ve knocked out. It was a terrible pitch. I am thankful to Mags for what he has provided through the years. But right now it looks like it is all gone. He’s a lazy OF, both getting to balls and making throws, and the hitting stroke is just gone.
by hockeydad55 on Jul 22, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
+10
I would give you the comment of the thread everyday, Kurt, if there were such a thing.
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So you dont think...
….he has anything left?…..why do you think that?
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 21, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow....
….Lots of non love for Carlos…..Guess I dont get it
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 21, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
It's not that he's not loved.
We just don’t need him back injury plagued. He has to be healthy to be the Carlos of ’06
What is to love for THIS SEASON? That’s what people are looking at. What he did in 2006 or 2007 isn’t helping the Detroit Tigers in 2009.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 21, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I love him!
He just can’t throw, run or hit very good anymore. He was the heart of the ‘06 team, but not anymore. Too many injuries and probably age catching up with him. I hope I’m wrong. I’d love to see him switch hit again. But it’s doubtful.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I'll always love Carlos, Benny!
He was the best in ’06!
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Why are they still trying to prepare him for left field?
He was absolutely horrendous out there. He played it like, well, one would expect an infielder would. DH him, hopefully save the shoulder, and let Marcus play left.
speaking of left field
Why isn’t Marcus out there anymore? Is it cause no one else can DH? I thought Maggs was better when he DH’d, cause we know he’s become horrible in right
Magglio's
got no rhythm in right anymore. Looks awkward out there. I think Marcus does ok in left, and Ryan in right. Josh for speed, pinch running - ’cause is numbers are pure crap. Not a single homer all season.
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Marcus in the OF
He doesn’t play much out there because he’s not a good defensive OF. And he doesn’t have the arm to play RF, which is why Mags still plays RF with Thames at DH. (Though I would argue that Mags doesn’t have as much of an arm as he used to, but the brass apparentlly still thinks he does). When Guillen returns, Thames will get some time in LF. But right now, everyone else is a better option out there.
after the day I've had
I just want us to not suck tonight :)
hopefully he’s just getting checked out and can continue rehab in toledo shortly. I was hoping he’d be back and healthy in time for the white sox series, but oh well. we just have to hope the dudes we’ve got will step it up.
Who's the guy in the dugout/bullpen in that pic above?
I don’t think he looks too impressed by Carlos’ Karate Kid impression…
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looks like
some fossil no one knows. These old guys just seem to wander in and hang out.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
maybe an employee? He does a "D" hat on
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
beck just updated his blog
to make mention of him seeing doctors. http://beck.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/07/guillen_recalled_from_rehab_bu.html
and the OFFICIAL_TIGERS
Twitter account seems a bit confused.
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 21, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI to those who dont follow them
from @OFFICIAL_TIGERS http://twitter.com/OFFICIAL_TIGERS/status/2765526410
Carlos Guillen is back too! Off the DL and ready to go tonight when the Tigers host the Mariners at 7:05 p.m
yeah. like, did they talk to their manager about that
cause he sees it a bit different!
by Kurt Mensching on Jul 21, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So If Carlos Is Healthy.....
…….lets say 90% who wants Carlos back???….I hope everyone……he is a great hitter and thats what we need right now…..If his shoulder isnt 100% he can stil hit id say at 90%….DH that boy…..who cares if hes 0 – 12 in lakeland….Lots of guys go hitless in rehab…..Thames was 4 – 20…..not that great…..I say when hes healthy hes in that lineup and we will all be Happy as ducks in the rain!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 21, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
When did this become a question
of who wants Carlos Guillen back and who doesn’t?
This is an argument you created, and there’s no basis for it.
IF Guillen is healthy, he can help the Tigers. That’s what people want. Who is saying that they don’t want Guillen back if he can hit .320, hit 8-10 homers, and even play decent defense in left field?
If he’s not, and he’s the same player he was in April, the Tigers are better off with some combination of Raburn, Anderson, and Thames. Or whatever bat the team can get in a trade.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 21, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
Ian is exactly right. Sure, we’d all love to see 2006-2007 Guillen. He was a great hitter for us. Unfortunately, last year and at the beginning of this year he was not. And with the obviously lingering injury issues, there is a lot of reason to be concerned that he will not hit like the Guillen of old when he returns. Should we give him a chance? Absolutely. We have to find out what he’s got, especially because we need offense badly and we don’t have many options. But don’t expect him to come back and be the savior. The recent track record says it isn’t going to happen.

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