Deflated, Defeated: Rangers 7, Tigers 3
If the Tigers aren't going to put much effort into trying to win a game, how much effort should I put into a recap?
This one started off promisingly, with Detroit pouncing on an early scoring opportunity, instead of frittering away yet another chance. With two on and two out, Ramon Santiago smacked a double into the opposite field gap to drive in the first run of the game. Then Dusty Ryan followed that up with a single that brought in two more runs. A three-run lead for Luke French!
French got so excited that he gave the lead right back in the bottom half of the inning. With two outs in the inning, but two runners on, three straight Ranger batters got base hits. A single, triple, and double, to be specific. French almost gave up the cycle in one inning. What he did give up was four runs, and the Tigers went flat after that.
Detroit put two runners on to lead off the fourth, but the next three hitters went down. And from then until the ninth inning, another 12 Tigers batters failed to reach base. Perhaps adding to the indignity was former Tiger Jason Grilli recording six of those outs in the fifth and sixth innings, which turned out to be good for the win. (Another former Tiger, Guillermo Moscoso, closed out the game in the ninth.) Throw in three errors, and that pretty much sums up the night. It wasn't pretty.
Comment of the Night:
On the bright side...
We’ve only left 4 guys on base!
And your runner-up, but you have to read the comment directly before it for context.
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The best part about tonight's game is
when it was over.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 28, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish I had some clearly thought-out, emotionally grounded comments tonight...
…but I’m not coming up with anything. At this point, I’m just glad my brain has recovered from multimedia overload. As the game ended, I was sitting on the floor in front of a laptop, trying to type comments here, eat dinner, watch the postgame show on TV, listen to the postgame show on the radio (yes, I actually do that with regularity), and keep the cat away from my dinner, and all the while, there was a computer with iTunes on the other side of the room blaring out Phil Collins, Santana, and Rod Stewart (the iTunes thing was out of my control). So it was all a bit much.
But I will say this: In their last 3 games, the Tigers have scored one run, then two, and now three. Does that mean they’ll score four runs next time? Hey, if Verlander pitches the way he has for most of the season, that should be enough to win.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
guess I picked a good one to pass out on
The Ian Casselberry method of ignoring a bad game…
(my apologies, fearless leader, I couldn’t resist)
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by ahtrap on Jul 29, 2009 4:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is this?
I leave the country and the Tigers go 4-2. I come back, they go 0-3. This is a monumentally large bottle of suck.
by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 29, 2009 5:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Done.....need Dunn
The comment of the day SHOULD have been Ian’s opening statement:
“If the Tigers aren’t going to put much effort into trying to win a game, how much effort should I put into a recap?”
Exactly my feelings.
Sitting here in DC I don’t get to see many Tiger games, but I listen to as many as possible on XM, but I have never seen a team just seemingly give up in games as often as the Tigers this year do. There have been some great comebacks of course, but now it seems once they get down 2 or 3 runs, it’s just toast.
Now the good news – if you had told me that we would be in the lead by a game or two on August 1 at the beginning of the year, I would have ran up and hugged you like a long-lost poodle. So let’s start from here….we need Dunn. Not Willingham, not Scutaro, Dunn. He has single-handedly raised the averages of Zimmerman and Willingham here in DC – just cuz people are afraid of him. Put him behind Cabrera and watch the sparks fly. Willingham is good, but he’s .260, 17hr, 83rbi good without Dunn around him. Those are Ryan Raburn numbers….
by Battlewagon on Jul 29, 2009 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion...
when the Tigers lose it reminds me of last year and Edgar Renterror. There was squandering last year by names that I would rather not repeat.
Don't drive angry!
by Dan Gurney on Jul 29, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edgar Renteria
Is a loser. Everett is an improvement, but no by much. Tigers should have kept Omar Infante. imo
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
**not by much
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cabrerra is our best?
Cabrerra is our best but when was the last time he helped the team with his bat? Most of his hits are without risp and he gets them with raw talent, no thinking. He lunges at balls two feet outside and lines them to right field. With runners on he gives away his at bat. If the two previous batters have walked on 8 straight pitches Cabrerra will swing at the first pitch two feet out of the strike zone and hit into a double play or pop up. If he doesn’t learn the art of hitting he will never be close to worth what he makes. And sadly he is our best. Right now, with men on base I would rather see Dusty Ryan at the plate than any of the others. Sad.
The Tiger’s radio announcers do a pretty good job of telling it like it is. The TV guys are hard to take. I really do not think that either of them are really Tiger fans. It just doesn’t seem to bother them when the Tigers lose. Last night Mario seemed more excited when the Ranger’s got the extra base hits than when the Tigers did something well. We don’t expect an overly partisan broadcast but for god’s sake show a little passion once in a while and act like you give a damm.
by Rick1 on Jul 29, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least the purpose pitching
and “chirping” kept me awake. blah.
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bah!
They must make a trade for some hitting, or we can forget this year.
by rea on Jul 29, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is what our offense is facing tonight?
“Feldman pitched eight scoreless innings in a 2-0 victory over the Royals on Friday, his longest outing in 42 career Major League starts. He is now 4-1 with a 2.79 ERA in his past six starts” according to MotownTigers
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side of that message of doom
We have JV on the mound…but he can’t pitch and give us run support too. We need a win today.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and our defense has been horrible too
He can’t “field” every plan for us either.
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's time for me to boycott the Tigers
until after the trade deadline when they’ve hopefully done something. Until then I’ll just follow the local minor league teams.
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I'll follow you.
Oh wait, all I have is the BluJays AAA team. nevermind.
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have Dodgers Single-A team
at least it’s a winning organization
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to go see the Lansing Lugnuts
that was alot of fun
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have the Mud Hens
’Nuff said
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To add to that...
Twins are scouting Scutaro heavily. If that trade happens….I will spontaneously combust due to pissed-offishness.
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Dumbrowski won’t do anything, watch
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I know it!
The best we can hope for at this point is another trade for Kyle Farnsworth.
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farnsworth's on the DL right now
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good time to trade him to us.
He can sit with Dtrain, Nate and Bondo!
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was he ever off?
Even when he plays, he looks like he should be on the DL
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That didn't stop us from trading a HOF catcher for him
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another moment
in Tiger history when I cried.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That trade still makes my blood boil...
…and probably will for the rest of my life.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+10000000
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As good as that sounds
I guess I will be the scab and cross your boycott line, Can’t do it. I am addicted.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
I’ll be here till the bitter end.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you. Well even if we can’t get run support, we can get fan support, from eachother. Right?
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you got that
misery loves company
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be here too
Like I said last night, I’ll never give up on them. Not that they deserve it.
by kendra.michelle on Jul 29, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know I'll be watching too.
Hey, and I also like Maggs swings lately. (most of them anyway)
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he seems to be picking up the pace which sets me all a flutter. But in the OF, not so much. Just pretty to look at out there. But that’s not good enough.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concur
He should be DHing platoon with Carlos
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but that would put Thames in the OF more
So it comes down to who is the better fielder, Ordonez or Thames?
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thames
%100
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet she knows where his house is ^
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
Birmingham, MI in season, his lives off of old Woodward. Miami and Caracas in the off season
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh lord....
and I was just kidding around…..
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
him and Biggy
live in the same neighborhood.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They probably hang out all the time
have mad parties and listen to Daddy Yankee
by kendra.michelle on Jul 29, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My husband knew where Pudge's house was
heard he’s renting it out tho
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pudge
is supposed to be a really nice guy. One of the chicks at the Tmobile store where i go met him and he autographed a ball for her unborn (at that time) son
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense
I heard he couldn’t find a buyer, but that was, like, last September
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, what?
I always thought you were male.
My world just got turned upside-down.
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who? me?
or you say that to all the gals?
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tagne
if you boycott we will miss you, so I have to veto that action
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just till the trade deadline
I’m sure everyone can survive 3 days without me.
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not me
I enjoy our banter very much. Will be like losing a friend. Besides, DD has waited so long I am doubtful we will acquire anyone that will help a great deal. You may as well bitch with the rest of us.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
During the last few innings yesterday
I opted to go run instead. The Tigers’ squandering is making me a healthier person!
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just take
Ativan. Helps me be healthier too.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
plus I need to figure out how to lose 12 pounds in 4 days before my big date.
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooooh
a date. I love to hear about people’s business. lol
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She's a nursing student
will be done in December
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
Nice. a PT and an RN, you guys will make nice babies.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey that's an idea
get a date so I stop obsessing about baseball so much. IMAGINE THAT
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well....
it’s at a baseball game, so not quite…
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least she's into sports, then?
Unless you’re just forcing her. I wouldn’t be able to handle my girl if she wasn’t into baseball.
by rcpratt on Jul 29, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Def not forcing
I asked if it sounded fun
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a mom
I think in those tems, sorry.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I work out on a treadmill during games
The Tigers need to put up more big innings so that I stay on the treadmill longer.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just there a pout. I feel like the team, no energy
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I just sit and talk to you guys and bitch at the TV
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone here anything on the latest rumors
ex: Washburn, Clement??
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All I could find on line were yesterday’s trade rumors. It’s very frustrating.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish they would all shut up
till something happens.
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing Matt Clement.
I saw him pitch once when he was on the Cubs, they played Dodgers in LA
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
I thought you were talking about Jeff Clement
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know which Clement, just read it on someone's "tweet"
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB Trade Rumors said Jeff Clement was pulled during the third inning of last night's Rainiers game...
…and told that he was about to be traded, but apparently not to the Indians or Rays.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh, here we go
I feel like Rodney’s coaster
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look up his career numbers in the Bigs
that’ll REALLY make your head spin
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember him hitting a home run off of Rodney...
…fittingly enough.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's who I was referring to
I didn’t know he was still in the league
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've given up on OUR trade rumors.
I am now sitting here hoping that the Phillies will get Lee, just so we don’t have to see him on Saturday.
by rcpratt on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take that a step further...
…and hope that someone else picks up Carl Pavano, just so we don’t have to see HIM on Sunday.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scared of Carl Pavano
What have we become???
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just going by the numbers...
We’ve beaten Cliff Lee three times, but we’ve lost to Pavano twice. Galarraga’s pitched well enough recently that he deserves to oppose someone the Tigers can score runs against, for a change.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is funny, from Rod Allen's tweet
Every other city is enjoying there 1st place team… You should too.
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would like to punch him in the face.
And did he really misuse “there”?
by rcpratt on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I copied and pasted it just as it was
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rod always makes mistakes like that
One time he said “stagnant” during a broadcast and then asked Mario if he used it correctly (he did).
by kendra.michelle on Jul 29, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have nothing better to do
and it’s too goddamn hot here to go to a missions (AA) game. so I’m not going anywhere!
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
me too
I have end of month coming up, so I will slack off for a little bit
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if those accounts are really
the real deal person, or some promoter or something
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure rod's account is real
he responds to people
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I thought he's said during games before that he doesn't "tweet?"
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't used to tweet
But he sure does now.. is a relatively new thing, last 2 months or so
by explosivo2k2 on Jul 29, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rod always tweets with Clete Thomas's uncle.
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha I noticed that the other day
so cute
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK. So I have a theory.
I noticed that over the weekend that the Sox are playing the Yankees and the Twins are playing the Angels. And of coarse we are playing those stinkin Indians. So the odds of us winning are greater than either one of those two other central teams and we may regain 1st by a few more games like by 5. would be nice, eh?
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure.
Until we have to play all those games aginst the AL east later in the year, and they don’t.
by rcpratt on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that four game series at Fenway ain't gonna be easy...
…but have you taken a look at the road trip Chicago will be on near the end of August?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox and Twins tied for second place. Who do we root for tonight to lose?
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My loathing of Ozzie is so fierce
I have to say SOX, FTL
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah me too I think
I like at least one or two guys on the twins, but nobody on the sox
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I like Carlos Quentin. He just has poor taste in team-mates
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel sorry for Quentin
I know all about “plantar fascitis” pain
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Difficult to manage that condition...
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, P.T.
what is the best thing for it? Rest or exercises
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to say
depends on the mechanics of your feet/ankles
a lot of stretching would prob be beneficial though
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they all do
AJ pierzynski’s on the team
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone get to see the dugout rumble with AJ
I couldn’t find any viseo on it
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's up on MLB.com
But you can’t see much. There’s too many people in the way.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
post a link, please? i am lazy.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah link pls
I still can’t find it? I r dum
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090727&content_id=6093804&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws
It’s the video that’s embedded in the story, but like I said, you can’t see much (there’s also footage of the White Sox making a bunch of errors and Ozzie Guillen taking out frustration on a bucket of gum).
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jesus that is more like a blooper reel than anything
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I told you you couldn't see much
But it was fun to see the White Sox make that many errors.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah totally
what a bunch of crankypants babies
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that would've made it better...
…was if Ozzie’s foot got stuck in the bucket a la Victor Martinez from last year
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahaha
that was fn great
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMMFAO
The best part was Ozzie kicking ,then throwing the bubble gum. Hope he left sunflower seeds for the guys.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if anyone reached onto the field for some gum after that
wish I could have seen that
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It works in our favor
A house devided against itself cannot stand. Or some such thing.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
grammar fail— Divided… ok thanks
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I looked and looked
but I could not find video of him and Ramirez fighting. I really wat to see that.. A LOT
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's got to be something on you tube by now
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Usually
if something goes on youtube MLB has it removed. All rights reserved you know..
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ONLY good thing about Farnsworth....
is when he tackled that dude
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And...
We have more games left against Minnesota, so a win by them would theoretically be more helpful in a “control your own fate” kind of way.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
poor
Armando… appeared ready to cry.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's twice that that's happened to him against Seattle now
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle has less-than-stellar catching
and this guy could not break onto the roster fulltime (it’s Seattle!)
I’m not sure I could get behind this.
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we would all be better off
speculating the stock market
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or boycotting MLB until trade hype is over....
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
not
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, I read somewhere that a knee injury has pretty much forced him to DH for most of the minor league season
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of knee injuries
What is going to happen with Binge? He looked like he was in really bad pain last night
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very much
defense too. I noticed he has a hard time making some plays last night
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, anyone remember "Big Red"
I didn’t know he was on the Mariners?
Check link above, the other videos below it shows Chris Shelton stuff
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone read the notes from today
looks like Ricky is still on to start this weekend.
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
all the rumors that are fit to print!
thanks
by MackAveKurt on Jul 29, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would be a better one if the tigers weren't constantly driving us mad with losses
by MackAveKurt on Jul 29, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forget the time difference
Good Afternoon, as Ali is iff to lunch
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cliffy
is now a trending topic on twitter. weird.
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I’m off to visit a friend. Be back later!
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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So much for Clement and Jack Wilson
7 player trade between Pirates and Mariners
Mariners get Wilson and ian snell
pirates get: Clement, assorted others.
does this mean the Mariners think they’re still in it and shoudlnt’ be considered a seller any more?
by MackAveKurt on Jul 29, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess so
and once again we don’t get shit
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who knows
the TIgers were said to be in discussions with both teams. To be fair, my top picks are neither Pirates nor Mariners, so it doesn’t matter all that much.
by MackAveKurt on Jul 29, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I am assuming
we are no longer talking to the Jays? I want Scutaro…..
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who knows. I would love to get him too
every time I hear something, it’s always a dead end anyways
by VegasTigers on Jul 29, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Cliff Lee has left the AL
Now a philly. All sorts of excitement today
by MackAveKurt on Jul 29, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what Lee's BA is?
lol
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prob somewhere between
Dane Sardinha and Ichiro Suzuki
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty
big gap there.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good riddance, I suppose
seems like he always faced Verlander and we’d win anyways
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so no J.A. Happ involved?
because if he got traded to Cleveland I’d have to drop him
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just read this on MLB.com.... What about this guy as a Tiger?
Quoting MLB.com
“Joe Crede, Twins
Why he’s available: If the Twins are out of contention by the Trade Deadline, it’s possible that they could attempt to move Crede, who will be a free agent at the end of the ’09 season.
Will he go? Crede’s prior back problems might scare some clubs away, and while he’s been productive with the Twins, it means his $2.5 million contract could reach near $7 million thanks to performance bonuses. "
I’d take him. Doesn’t seem like a whole lot of money considereing what DD has spent a “basura” in the past
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crede
But the Twins aren’t out of contention by the trade deadline, as we of all people ought to know. And there is no way Minnesota will someone to the Tigers who might be useful thsi year.
by rea on Jul 29, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just a thought
that’s all. we will probably end up empty handed…..
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like a Jewish kid on Christmas Day right now
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well not to pop your bubble
but if any one of those 8 days fell December 25th, you might get a pair of socks or something…
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I woudln't read too much into it
The Tigers seem to be the best team at plugging leaks to the press when they’re up to something. You never hear a peep and then whamm-o, trade happens.
by MackAveKurt on Jul 29, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking that too.
I remember being pretty shocked about pudge, unless I was just out of the loop
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just invited to go to the
Orioles vs Tigers on Wednesday Aug 5th. I was thinking I wonder if Luke Scott will be playing with us, against us or not at Comerica at all that day.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who cares?
You’ll be in the presence of God.
by Tagne13 on Jul 29, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wieters Amighty
I forgot about him. I was focused more on the Luke Scott aspect of it.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you get to be in the divine presence of WEITERS!
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should I light a candle?
what should I do….The Mighty Wieters….WOW…. pphht
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wieters is the light that shines in all of us
by MackAveKurt on Jul 29, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
so no candle will be needed. Obviously, Comerica will shine brighter than any star in the Heavens those three Holy days
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to the game on August 3rd
The power of our lord Wieters calls to me
by kendra.michelle on Jul 29, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jealouzzzzz
god knows when I will see the savior in person
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gordon beckham is trying to steal our megan fox
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but he has such a sweet friendly southern boy demeanor
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AAARRGGGGG
I cant get the photo can some one post it directly here, stupid work pc.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats why
once again I have to wait till I get home. My stupid employers have youtube blocked from teh iinternets
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somrthing about pulling too much
bandwidth. So instead of youtube all of us just blog, facebook etc.
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dodger fan friend's reaction to cliffy trade (warning, explicit language)
FUCK FUCK FUCK x100
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK stands for...
Fairly Uneventful Carrot Knob.
Yeah, that sucked.
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
'ello guvnah's
I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet
by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so, um, yay no more cliff lee?!?!?!?
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really not sure what to think
They got some pretty good pieces for him
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was more surprised at the Mariners and Pirates trade.
Cleveland has been dismantling their team and Toronto wanted wouldn’t budge for Halladay. I think the Jays are stuck with Roy.
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's getting out soon though.
Like some baseball version of Prison Break.
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked how deadspin put it
how the pirates that were traded were “released from jail”
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like a Gubentorial pardon.
Only with more tobacco, chewing gum, pine tar and crotch scratching.
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found the new theme for this summers family reunion
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, everyone's talking about Halladay being the big trade
but it seems like no one wants to give the Jays what they want and the Jays won’t take what’s being offered to them.
by kendra.michelle on Jul 29, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The salary is high but the fact everyone found out Halladay wants to test the free agent market is what really made people go hellz naw.
That’s what I think. No one wanted a very high priced rental with how prospects are being viewed at the moment.
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the M's ain't done.
Wladimir Balentien Traded to Cincinnati for Robert Manuel
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So seattle must think they are still in it
I guess Washburn is staying put
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Seattle
very disillusioned
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Wladimir trade is still suspect
But I think the M’s are going to put their heads down and try to make a run on that Wild Card.
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Deal confirmed.
Wladi is a nightmare in the field.
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
off topic - or is it?
did anyone notice this hilarious pic of miguel on the front page of mlb today

by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it comes up on the main page intermittently
as an ad for mlb.tv
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have heard that he is quite the joker
in the clubhouse
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by Detroitchik on Jul 29, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
everyone is just too scared not to laugh at his jokes
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hitting the refresh button on MLB Trade Rumors like constantly
If we get Rolen or Rios from the Jays, I may just cry.
by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 29, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually a smidge grateful for the trade instanity
otherwise i’d be REALLY bored at work
…but if we lose anyone I love, I will still cry
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When the Weaver trade happened I swore I was done with the Tigers.
It brought back horrible Juan Gonzalez flashbacks. I couldn’t stay away though. Stupid love of Detroit Tigers baseball.
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BREAKING NEWS
I have been traded to SBN’s Marlins blog for a commenter to be named later (CTBNL).
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you feel about commenting in a small market?
by rcpratt on Jul 29, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's much less pressure away from the big city,
but as a child, I always dreamed of posting asinine pictures in a playoff atmosphere.
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awww
I still have to pass a physical before the trade is official, and I have a hang-nail on my spacebar thumb
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, if you aren't traded
we’ll keep you day-to-day
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ian didn't want me going to arbitration
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Craig will treat you well over there. And they have a stunning lack of photos of chicks with helicopter hair, so you’ll be a good addition.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 29, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
??? I don't get your reference
oh, wait….

Now I get it
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
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by Detroitchik on Jul 30, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, in memory of cliffy
I guess I’ll put on the angels/indians game
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
also: wow, grady is their leadoff man?
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
hence the Grandy comparisons. Both hit leadoff, yet profile as 3-5 hitters.
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt realize they had put them there.
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Indians never make sense.
They just don’t.
by 13194013 on Jul 29, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SEE YA, SUCKAS
GONNA GO GET ME A RING!
by rcpratt on Jul 29, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he looks like House
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Don't pet me." "I'll pet you."
favorite
by kendra.michelle on Jul 29, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lackey has already hit two batters
hmm
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
need a cigarette
brb
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank Wieters for Youtube
or our eyes may have never been graced by this video
by kendra.michelle on Jul 29, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Full disclosure
I have seen many a topless being on these intertubes….Leyland is one I was hoping to avoid
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ain't forcing your finger to do the clicking action
among other things
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
Leyland’ll occasionally do his postgame interview with no shirt on, so I’ve already had the (dis)pleasure of seeing his bare chest. Usually it results in me just listening to the interview and not looking at the screen.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
9-0 cubbies
Top 7
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wish i could be watching that
stupid tx team blackouts
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
300 comments
You guys are amazing. Or really bored.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 29, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6 of one......
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT
Is it bad that I’m eating lunch at 4:30?
by kendra.michelle on Jul 29, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nah eat when you're hungry
or when the tigers suck, whichever
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my lunch, which I ate around 4

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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
inspired to keep my school-girl figure
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh
11-0 cubs
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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want work to be over
so I can go sell my camera lens and order a new one
so that my pix of verlander and everyone come out better
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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by YakAttack on Jul 29, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the last time I was at a game I took pictures of the players through my binoculars
to get close-ups
beat that
by kendra.michelle on Jul 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
country strong's in LF today
according to beck
by allikazoo on Jul 29, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about you...
…but after having spent the day visiting and talking to people I haven’t seen in a long time, I feel so disconnected that it seems like last night’s game happened five weeks ago. When tonight’s game comes on I’m gonna wonder what I’ve been doing.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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