Was Today's Mariners-Pirates Trade a Precursor to Another Deal?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 29, 2009 4:00 PM EDT
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PrintSo I'm little behind on the MLB trade news of the day, having been nowhere near a computer since about 7 a.m. (I actually thought the Tigers would surely make a deal while I was on internet silence, since that seems to be my curse as a sports blogger.)
But after looking over the deal that the Mariners made with the Pirates this afternoon, I wonder if it could be a precursor to another trade, perhaps with the Tigers.
First of all, if you didn't see the particulars, Pittsburgh traded shortstop Jack Wilson (who I almost want to think of as a honorary Tiger, given how often he was rumored to go to Detroit) and pitcher Ian Snell to Seattle for five players, including shortstop Ronny Cedeno and first baseman Jeff Clement.
Clement is the name that makes me raise an eyebrow. And this is complete and total speculation on my part. But it's that time of year, there don't seem to be many rumblings going on with the Tigers at the moment (though that could certainly change as I'm writing this), and I want to post something on the site before tonight's game. So here we go: I wonder if Seattle might consider replacing Clement in their organization with Jeff Larish.
Both Lynn Henning and the Seattle Times's Geoff Baker have written today that the Tigers could be interested in pitcher Jarrod Washburn. We got a first-hand look at Washburn last week in Detroit, when he held the Tigers to two hits in seven innings. Last night, he followed that up with another exceptional start at home vs. the Blue Jays, allowing just one run in another seven innings of work. As a result, Baker thinks Washburn is as "good as gone."
And both writers point out that Larish was almost traded to the Mariners last December, as part of a package for J.J. Putz. Now that Seattle's Triple-A team is short a power-hitting, left-handed first baseman/designated hitter, perhaps they need another one to replace him. (Yes, Clement has also played some at catcher, which Larish doesn't, but 70 of his 92 games this season have been at DH.)
Baker said Larish's name came up with the people he talked to (he didn't say whether they were with the Mariners or Tigers), and there still seems to be some interest on Seattle's part:
Why would the M's want him? He's got serious home run power. Sort of like a young Russell Branyan. Yeah, the M's have Mike Carp in Class AAA. But he's more of a doubles-guy in terms of pure power. Nothing wrong with using one as a DH and another as a first baseman though. An interesting scenario.
Detroit would have to give up more, of course. Last December's trade rumors also had the Mariners interested in Wilkin Ramirez or Casper Wells. I think it'd be crazy to give up Ramirez for a pitcher, of course. Not to mention one in the final year of his contract. So I doubt the Tigers would do that. But I'm just noting that the Mariners have looked at Ramirez before.
And there it is. See if that sticks to the wall.
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Washburn would be a nice addition...
but at this point I am far more concerned about the offense than the startin rotation. I would love to see them target a power hitting corner outfielder to slot into the middle of our lackluster offense.
by eat 'em up tigers on Jul 29, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
Either or
I’d like a bat too, but it seems that DD has other plans.
by David Tokarz on Jul 29, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Waiting all day for some news
but nothing yet in regard to our Tigers. I can hardly stand it. I’m a little surprised with the big deal between Seattle and Pittsburgh. I love Jack Wilson and am very happy he finally got a trade instead of endless rumors year in and year out. He really wanted to come to the Tigers a few years ago, but the deal didn’t get done and many Tiger fans were relieved, but I always thought Jack was a terrific SS with lots of heart.
Now, who are we gonna get? Anybody? We need a bat and a pitcher real bad, Dave.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
We will ending up signing
Barry Bonds, Frank Thomas, and Moises Alou
BANK ON IT
I should start my own blog
Jarrod Washburn
He would give us a complete 1-2-3 playoff punch and allow Porcello to go to the bullpen in the playoffs with Armondo.
An offensive bat and maybe a solid pinch hitter/utility corner baseman would fit nicely with this team. Perhaps someone that can hit for average a bit higher than Ryan Raburn.
A healthy Freddy Sanchez would be good.
Some kind of deal to get Juan Uribe from the Giants I think would work. Even though he’s a SS, they say SS is the toughest position to play and that they are able to go to corner bases and be good enough on defense. I don’t think an injured Brandon Inge is going to help us.
I want Franklin Gutierrez but I don’t know if they will give him up since he’s having a great year.
yes
1st- He’s with the Giants now. He’s not a white sux player anymore.
2nd- Brandon Inge is hurt and not producing.
3rd- He’s cheap. 1 mil salary this year.
4th- He’s hitting .286.
5th- He’s familiar with the AL Central hitters. I tend to think that helps hitters when they know what a pitcher throws, how fast, etc.
6th- We wouldn’t need to give up much at all to get him.
I don't think the Giants will give him up
They are in Wild card contention with the Rockies and need him
He's hitting .284 in 222 ABs...
as a back-up. If he were good enough to play everyday and have more ABs his avergae would be a lot lower. His lifetime BA is .255. In his 8 year career, he’s had 1 season where his BA finished above .253 and that was 5 years ago.
7th – He’s awful
Question
Don’t you generally use four starting pitchers in the playoffs?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It partly depends on
how long series go and how long of a break there is between them
If a team sweeps someone in the 1st round, the same three could go again since there’d be days off in between series. If a series went something like a full 7 games, then you’d see 4.
Here's Danny Knobler on MLive
if I can get the link to work (Cutoff Man)
http://blog.mlive.com/cutoffman/2009/07/cutoff_man_podcast_tigers_fron.html#more
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
James Schmehl finally - FINALLY - provided a link to BYB!
Does this end my feud with him? Well… maybe.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 29, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Better not be Inge....
…..hes hurting the team big time by playing 3rd right now…Especialy since if he takes a month off he would feel much better….rest inge becasue if you go down with a full tear…Were in worse shape.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 29, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Raburn at 3rd
always have, but Leland keeps throwing him out there in the OF. We really don’t have anyone on the bench to replace Inge except Rayburn and Leland never puts him out there. He hasn’t done too bad when he has played 3rd.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I meant to say....
he put him out there, but not enough to speak of.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Forget it, I can't spell today.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
We need A Starter.....
…and a guy that can play 3rd….Weve got 2 rookies in the starting roatation….Not good…..also Inge for sme reason is stil playing….I think he needs to go on the DL for about a month….I head someehere if he rests a month hed be ok…..Thats puts him back in September….Like that.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 29, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
All I read about Inge's knee problem is that the doctors COULDN'T guarantee that DL time would help
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 29, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I will miss you guys tonight :(
But I’m going to the Loons game. Live baseball – and hopefully winning baseball. Whee!!!
Go Tigers!
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
In Midland?
Sounds like fun.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
I sure hope so...
The Tiger’s offense is almost non-existent, it’s hard 2 believe they’re a team in 1st place, a tribute to the SP they have. Though, the bullpen’s been ? @ times this year. It’d be nice if we could dump the D-Train & Robertson, for a SS that can play & hit. They got Carlos back & he’s about the only 1 hitting, I’m not sure what chemistry they’re worried about breakin up, cuz it seems like there off right now anyways. It’d b nice to get a guy that could give Inge some time to heal, cuz he clearly needs to sit.
I'll bet Dombrowski is going nuts with the phone calls
and all the “name” players will be more difficult to get as we get closer to Friday. Teams in contention are desperate and will give alot to get a good pitcher or hitter…….except us, I guess. Maybe we’ll just have to stick with what we’ve got.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
Too expensive
Rays would probably demand better than Scott Sizemore…
by David Tokarz on Jul 29, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Giants just got Freddy Sanchez
Better the Giants than the Twins, I suppose
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
for what Pittsburgh got for him,
we didn’t have a chance. yikes
I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet
I just have a good feeling about Washburn
if we were to acquire him, I would be just below overjoyed.
Although my joy will still be less than if we also get a good hitter.
The Yankees are interested in Josh Anderson
according to MLive. Jim Leland said another team also is interested.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
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