Lunchtime Prowl: Miggy's Future in Detroit, Interest in Josh Anderson, and Should Polanco Be Back?
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2009 12:30 PM EDT
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Don't you try to manage our expectations, Dave Dombrowski. "Not much going on," he says. Double-D's trying that reverse psychology thing on us, right? Right?
Is Lynn Henning being mistreated in the Tigers' clubhouse these days? Suddenly, he thinks everyone should be traded. Last week, it was Curtis Granderson. This week, he envisions the day when the Tigers have to give up Miguel Cabrera. (And that's not even mentioning the "Release Magglio" drum he's been beating since last winter.)
Henning must love what the Cleveland Indians are doing.
Take 75 North looks at the Tigers' starting pitching prospects, lending some insight into why Casey Crosby might be considered an untouchable in this year's trade market.
Are the Yankees really interested in Josh Anderson? That's the current scuttlebutt. Apparently, the Yanks see Anderson as a fill-in while Brett Gardner recovers from a broken thumb. Have they looked at his hitting stats?
Jim Leyland mentioned another team is also interested, but wouldn't specify. (Tom Gage thinks it could be the Royals.) So are we to assume that the Tigers wouldn't be able to get Anderson through waivers now?
The Daily Fungo thinks the Tigers should keep Placido Polanco around for at least one more year, using him in sort of a utility role as a mentor to Scott Sizemore.
Mike also brought up Polanco playing some third base, which reminded me of something I've been wanting to write about for a while: Why is Polanco never considered to play at third base? He's played 322 games at third over his career (though only one with the Tigers). For at least two seasons with St. Louis (albeit back in 2001-02), he was the Cardinals' starting third baseman.
Does he not like playing over there? Is his arm strength deemed unsuitable for the position? I'm just curious because it seems like Polanco could help out right now.
FOXSports.com has a list of "under-the-radar trade targets" that playoff contenders should be looking at. Is it safe to say that the Tigers would be interested in every one of these guys? (Freddy Sanchez is off the table now, of course.)
What might Ty Cobb's diary look like? Beefshower has returned from his self-imposed exile and shares an excerpt with us at Mickey Tettleton Memorial Overpass.
If Aubrey Huff is one of the bats you're hoping the Tigers pursue, they don't appear to be showing much interest. No teams are showing much interest in Huff, according to the Baltimore Sun.
With Casey Fien making his second appearance for the Tigers last night (three strikeouts, two hits, and one run in an inning of work), that gives us a chance to link to Fire Jim Leyland's (since revised) look at Fien and his three-pitch repertoire through Pitch F/X.
ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick lists nine former top prospects who never quite lived up to their advance billing. One of them, Jose Capellan, had a 10-game fling with the Tigers back in 2007. Another name on the list will probably make Michigan football fans grind their teeth.
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Seems like the 2nd part of that article...
has been written for over a month. He writes that Miggy has a .326 BA w/ 14 HR and 42 RBI. From ESPN’s game logs, Miggy was at .325 w/ 13 and 42 after the June 20 Milwaukee game (Hit a solo HR for his 13th and 42nd RBI).
More lazy MSM “journalism” to me.
by davking1980 on Jul 30, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Josh is officially a Royal
for cash considerations. MLB Trade Rumors.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
by densogirl on Jul 30, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crasnick's article...
is exhibit one as to why you take the established big leaguer over prospects almost every time. (Which is why I’m itching for the Tigers to make a move, any move, by the trade deadline)
I remember all the teeth gnashing over the Cabrera trade, and some not liking the Tigers giving up Cameron Maybin and Andrew Miller. Despite the average season Cabrera’s having, does anyone miss either of the former “elite” prospects?
As for Josh Anderson, even if the Tigers received “cash considerations” for him, the Royals still overpaid.
by BigAl on Jul 30, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't call Cabrera's season average....maybe compared to himself in the past.
Also this was in Henning’s article:
He still has 14 home runs to go with that .326 batting average. He has 42 RBIs, although that’s 20 or 30 fewer than he should have rolled up by now, even if he were swinging with his eyes closed.
Am I missing something or is he way off with his stats? He had 19 HR and 53 RBIs going into last night’s game….he had a big game but not 6 HRs and 15 RBIs.
by Detroit4lyfe on Jul 30, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henning is certainly engaging in a little "magic math"
Since when does 9-for-45 equal .111?
by Dberg on Jul 30, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Lynn Henning's dog die or something?
The gist of his article seems to be “Cabrera needs to get his stats up so that it increases his trade value in four years.” Doesn’t exactly have faith in the Tigers, does he?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 30, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Cabrera...
when looking at his previous numbers, thiis an average season. But he’s being paid like a superstar, he should be putting up superstar numbers.
The season isn’t over, and Cabrera could still put up some monster stats. But to this point, be it him, or the lousy Tigers offense surrounding him, Cabrera’s stats are pretty empty.
by BigAl on Jul 30, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Polly
You know darn well Polanco is looking for a longer term contract than 1 year and he’ll get it as a free agent.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
by densogirl on Jul 30, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why move Polly to 3B?
He’s been wonderful at 2B and seem to be in better shape this year. Last I looked, he was leading the AL in UZR at second and he already has one Gold Glove on his mantel.
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by rings on Jul 30, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That might be the best reason not to move him
The Tigers’ defense would be weakened at second base. Then you’d be weaker at second AND third.
I’m just curious why it never comes up, but that might be the best answer right there. Polanco has played well enough to be entrenched at 2B, and maybe Leyland doesn’t even want to mess with that.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming that trading Josh Anderson was all about not being able to get him through waivers?
The batting average wasn’t there, but I had hoped they’d be able to call him up in September and use him as a pinch-runner. Do the Tigers have anyone in their system that they can use in that role now?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 30, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You think they'll call him up?
I wonder who all will get the call.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 30, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they will
They already have once and I’m pretty sure he leads Toledo in SBs if you are talking about speed. If Maggs isn’t back next year they’re going to need to find someone to replace him….may as well start auditions.
by Tagne13 on Jul 30, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see Clete get the green light more on the basepaths, too. (Maybe he already has it.) He stole quite a few bases in Toledo.
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might as well...
If he lives up to his potential, that’d be nice from a pennant race standpoint
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 30, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Tigers are so unwilling to trade Ramirez
they’d better figure out something to do with him
I’m tired of all these AAAA guys hanging around (i.e. Hessman, Kelly, Larish)
by Tagne13 on Jul 30, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That
kid has lots of potential
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 30, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if we trade for someone?
Would we not fill the roster spot with the new guy?
by Kmann on Jul 30, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The team has/had 10 days to do something with him before he went on waivers.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
by densogirl on Jul 30, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But with the Yankees and apparently the Royals having interest in him...
…that’s probably an indication that he would’ve been claimed by someone.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 30, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Royals had first dibs over the Yanks on the wairver wire.
"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti
by densogirl on Jul 30, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waivers...
the one thing the Royals can win at
by Tagne13 on Jul 30, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Jason Beck's blog
The Yankees did not want to send a prospect to the Tigers
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 30, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bye josh, i guess
I want to know much they paid.
by allikazoo on Jul 30, 2009 1:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
On the Under-the-Radar article
I found it interesting that the writer said both Scott and Willingham would be great for the Tigs. I would be happy with either of the two, along with Washburn.
by Kmann on Jul 30, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I really like the idea of Washburn pitching at the Copa. I’m leaning towards Scott since I think he could be had for less.
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com
by rock n rye on Jul 30, 2009 1:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
After Willingham decided to get slammy a few nights ago
I agree that Scott would be easier to get. And probably just as good.
by Kmann on Jul 30, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of Fanhouse’s MLB writers said on Twitter that Willingham is considered untouchable now.
OF Josh Willingham no longer available. Source: “2 weeks ago they were fielding offers. Latest I’ve heard is he’s untouchable.”
(via @eyeofthetigers)
by Ian Casselberry on Jul 30, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very well then
That makes getting Scott even more of a priority.
by Kmann on Jul 30, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting, via MLBTR's
“The Marlins made a run at Roy Halladay but balked at an asking price that included Cameron Maybin and Mike Stanton.”
by Kmann on Jul 30, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've heard SD offered them Heath Bell
for Andrew Miller and some other dude
by Tagne13 on Jul 30, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and that one they might do
Still, I would much rather we had Bell. Because he’s awesome.
by Kmann on Jul 30, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else suspicious that we've heard nary a peep from the White Sox recently?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 30, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and it scares me.
I know they’re not poised to do it, but I fear a last minute big move.
http://old-english-d.blogspot.com
by VivaTigres on Jul 30, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like the Pudge move
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 30, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could be a darkhorse for Halladay
since they had the prospects to pull Peavy
by Tagne13 on Jul 30, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henning is an idiot
Why did Morosi have to leave?
by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 30, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Mr. Henning
- you. You’re a dumbass and a disgrace to sports journalism. Yeah, there’s a possibility we have to trade Miggy down the road. LIKE 5 DAMN YEARS down the road, so be cool, and enjoy watching one of the game’s premiere players while we have him.
by BigDaddyJC on Jul 30, 2009 4:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
+100
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
by Detroitchik on Jul 30, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
thanks for the link Ian, although I will quibble with the notion that my exile was self imposed. Let’s just say Louis XV was less than pleased with my brutal blogpost takedown of the Finance Minister and I got to spend some quality time at Chateau d’If. Those 18th c. monarchs are ruthless.
by beefshower on Jul 30, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the link, Ian. I like Casey Fien’s breaking ball a lot.
by Mike Rogers on Jul 31, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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