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A Trade! Tigers Get Jarrod Washburn

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According to MLB Trade Rumors, the Detroit Tigers have acquired pitcher Jarrod Washburn from the Seattle Mariners.  MLBTR cites a report from Mike Salk of ESPN Radio 710 AM in Seattle.

Washburn has an 8-6 record and 2.64 ERA in 20 starts with the Mariners this season.  He's lost only twice in his last 10 starts, and was arguably the third-best starting pitcher available on the trade market after Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee.

No word on who the Tigers may have given up yet.  This post is probably going to be updated.

UPDATE: Pitchers Luke French and Mauricio Robles are heading to Seattle.

Robles is a left-hander who's pitched in 18 games this season between Single-A Lakeland and West Michigan, compiling an 8-6 record and 4.24 ERA.  The number that raises an eyebrow (and seems to have Mariners fans excited) is the 111 strikeouts he's thrown in 91.1 innings.

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For Luke French and Mauricio Robles

WooHoo

I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet

by YakAttack on Jul 31, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN reporting it

French and Robles for Washburn! Thank you DD!

by BigDaddyJC on Jul 31, 2009 11:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Posted in the other thread- Robles

http://firstinning.com/players/Mauricio-Robles-a

Decent K-BB ratio, K’ing over a guy per inning. Scouting- he’s supposedly got a good FB and an above average CB, but a bad changeup and mediocre control/command. He’s also got size problems, which means his future may be in the bullpen.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very Nice!

I never doubted you DD!

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOVE it.

Didn’t give up much. Great move.

"Do not cheat your team or your teammates. Know your plays. Block. Protect. Add to what we are trying to do."
The Only Colors

by LVS on Jul 31, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BP's Kevin Goldstien:

“New #Mariners P Mauricio Robles is a small lefty with a big arm, 90-94 mph with +command, breaking ball flashes plus, prob. bullpen in end.”

by Bkell on Jul 31, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Plus command?

Heard his command was mediocre…

Still, a bullpen arm for a good SP- that’s a good deal.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Type A

Washburn is projecting as a Type A free agent. If he’s offered arbitration and walks, Tigers get two draft picks as compensation. Very nice.

MLB Network says Robles is a young, somewhat newly converted OF.

by fluffstuckinWI on Jul 31, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MLBTR says he projects as a type B.

I don’t know if he will reach A threshold if he continues to put up the same kind of numbers the rest of the season.

by StringTheory on Jul 31, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He will be a A....

….after he gets another 8 wins with detroit!!!!

by BennieBladesFan on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Type B

It’ll be fun when he gets a 1 year – 15 Mil contract in arbitration and takes it. He’d absolutly murder us in Arb with that low era and his 10 mil contract this season.

He’d be worth about 1/2 that much on the open market this off season.

Yes, this is an improved pitcher. But this is still Jarrod Washburn. His ERA has been deflated due to a helpful ballpark, a fantastic outfield defense (that Detroit can’t match up with), and a completely unsustainable limitation on home run balls.

When Jarrod Washburn is being successful because he is limiting home runs on his fly balls you should be very afraid of that continuing.

What should be expected of Washburn going forward? A 4 to 4.4 ERA. Typical Washburn.

So DD traded a young Washburn that’ll be under team control for 6 years for a couple of months of this “new and improved” version. Oh and threw in 1 more interesting young arm as well.

Not sure how Detroit won this deal.

by CKremer on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love this deal.

Color me impressed, DD.

by longview on Jul 31, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Iorg and Ramirez should be our big guns for a bat.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ramirez and Iorg....

…..for Rios?? anyone like????

by BennieBladesFan on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why that much?

They want to dump Rios’s contract.

Magglio and Ramirez OR Iorg for Rios.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need to find the boys

And then bless them.

Looks like a good move. DD is just being DD right now.

by Flying J on Jul 31, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Outstanding move!

I was hoping for a bat, but another quality starter will do just fine!!!

by wiltfongjr on Jul 31, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

B/c

We dealt a young 4/5 starter and a potential bullpen piece for an expensive guy who will probably regress a little. For a win-now move, though, I like it. They may win in the long term, but I doubt either Robles or French turns into John Smoltz. Maybe Jarrod Washburn and Fernando Rodney (a good RP?)…

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They don't see French how we see him

We see a soft tossing lefty, which reminds us of Robertson, they see a young Washburn. The Tigers didn’t have high hopes for Frenchy and I never saw much more potential then bullpen. It’s a good trade for us.

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YAYYYYYYYYYYYY

a trade worth something. Oh Happy day!!!!. Thank you DD

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dd you stud

impressive. Don’t like seeing french leave, but someone had to go. We now have three legit starters, and one from the left side to attack the twins. Well done. Keep working that phone.

by rook34 on Jul 31, 2009 11:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

wonder when his first start will be.

washburn is on the schedule for sunday, for seattle. hrm, where shall he fit in?

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

French was supposed to go Monday for us. Maybe it will be Washburn?

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IM guesssing

….washburn starts Sunday…..whoever is suposed to start sunday will be pushed back

by BennieBladesFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something happened!

I’m not really excited about Washburn….just that we finally did something of note.

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have

a chubby

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I look at a player's whole career though

Solid, but not fantastic. He will be a pretty good 3.

Certainly better than Nate Robertson.

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His ERA is awesome because Seattle's defense is incredible.

And Safeco kills right-handed hitters.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Ok...You dont have to be....

…..But to get a flyball pitcher that pitches in Copa…..Most are happy

by BennieBladesFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We really need to make sure Magglio's option doesn't vest now.

The 33 million saved would be a nice insurance for all of the arbitration offers we’ll be making this offseason.

by StringTheory on Jul 31, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you realize it’s probably going to. I am not just saying that because I adore Maggs, just a feeling, unless they just release him outwardly.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It most likely will

Unless we get a stud RF in a trade.

by BennieBladesFan on Jul 31, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

doubtful

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ALEXRIOSALEXRIOSALEXRIOS

You know, just in case you didn’t know who I wanted…

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fangraphs

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/washburn-to-detroit

Cameron’s a Seattle fan, but he’s kinda right. It’s important to stay grounded- WASHBURN IS NOT A WORLD BEATER. This year he’s a decent 3, and while I think we gave up an appropriate amount, this was an even trade.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

+1

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ERA's rise

I think Wash is a 4 ERA pitcher, and I think we gave up a fair amount for him. I’m just saying that it was even is all.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, it's true

he’ll still be better than Nate, Dontrelle, Bonderman, and Galarraga though

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

but I am much more comfortable send a vet like Washburn to the mound in September rather than French.

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

an even trade is fine

I don’t mind a fair exchange with no one getting screwed. Each team gets something they want and for a price they are comfortable with.

I’m just happy to have a little more experience in the rotation. A lot of pressure on a lot of youngsters.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I go to the grocery store and come back to this.

WE didn’t give up much, but poor Rod has three months’ worth of “French” references down the drain.

by NCDee on Jul 31, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Beck is right

We are looking at this as a steal/bargain. Nice deal DD!

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Contract Year?

Last time Washburn pitched as well as this year was in a contract year (2005), I believe.

by TMadison25 on Jul 31, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Turned on SportsCenter and saw this news on the crawl

knew I had to immediately get on here. Great addition for us! I gotta admit I’m going to miss Frenchie a little bit haha. I’m going to the game on Monday and French was originally going to start that game, so maybe I’ll see Washburn firsthand! So since we’ve actually done something now, do you think we’ll keep going and try to add a bat? I think we all agree that one is needed.

by kendra.michelle on Jul 31, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Does this mean the Tigers won't pursue a bat now?

Cuz they could still use a left-handed bat. Luke Scott…

by B-Race Miles on Jul 31, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That would be awesome

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you read my mind

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's got to be all or nothing

if you’re going to upgrade one of our stronger areas you’d better upgrade one of the weaker areas to make it mean anything

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we may get a bat before the day is over

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would take him

even in a slump

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

again

you read my mind. Change of scenery might do him some good.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if he's slumping....

getting Luke Scott out of a Baltimore jersey is good for 2 wins in that series next week, even if we don’t play him.

by davking1980 on Jul 31, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott would just ground into double plays all game long

if he was wearing a Tiger uniform. Tiger Killer through and through.

by Trysdor on Jul 31, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank goodness I took the afternoon off from work

Otherwise people would be wondering why I was laughing my ass off at the computer. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha yeah

came from roar of the tigers a few mos ago

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So that means that Verlander will start Monday?

I get to watch a Verlander start for my birthday? Too bad I’m not going to THAT game.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did you find this?

If this is true I’m really pumped because now I’ll get to see JV on Monday haha

by kendra.michelle on Jul 31, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scroll up for the freep.com article on Washburn

he is going to go on Tuesday. So JV will probably go on Monday. That would mean JV moves up in the Rotation by a day. No big deal for him

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am going Wednesday

so most likely I’ll see Jackson. And that’s fine w me. I’ve seen each pitcher at least once in the rotation this year, and JV twice. Love ’em all.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did you hear this?

If this is the case, I’ll go to the game.

by B-Race Miles on Jul 31, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually do have another errand to run

but when I heard this I had to come back home and get on here. Off to the yarn store soon….

by NCDee on Jul 31, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to take a shower

Does that work?

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it could!

Give it a shot!

Actually when I was a kid I would do that for Red Wings games in hopes for a goal while I wasnt looking.

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I remember one game last year that was at Fenway Park. It was kind of a slugfest, and they were just starting the bottom of the eighth when I went away to take a shower. When I got out of the shower, it was STILL the bottom of the eighth. And I take long showers.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still need a bat

i would like to see us get Josh Willingham

by wizzo on Jul 31, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 grand slams in one game does that to a body, eh?

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I expect another deal to go down soon

I feel like the Tigers will be making another deal soon, for a bat. You all remember how the organization couldn’t decide on their needs? Well, maybe they’re just gonna get both needs.

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

in joy or sadness?

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a little bit, but I was very busy and couldn't read closely

I was assuming you would be happy. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toronto would be crazy to trade Rios.

Rios has a manageable contract for years to come, and he’s a decent value.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toronto is crazy

They’ve been talking about unloading Rios’s contract for a while.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

this is why I think he’ll stay here, unless he is released outright.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still

If they dealt Maggs, the team that acquired him would assume his contract, so they’d be the one’s that would have to deal with his option.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you're a team

in contention are you going to pick up a 35 yr old slumping player’s options? And I am not so sure about that, becaue Sheffiled is still on Tigers payroll

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks to the Seattle GM

For asking for Joba or Hughes to scare off the Yankees

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Jul 31, 2009 12:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

+100

I hate ’em

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, I forgot about that

If he really thinks Luke French is the same Caliber as Joba or Hughes, he will be sorely dissapointed

by Ohio Tiger on Jul 31, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect he thinks French is basically the same pitcher Washburn is.

Only cheaper and under club control.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seattle didn't ask for either of those guys

When the information is easily available its pretty stupid to just make something up.

by CKremer on Jul 31, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is super/amazing/stupendous/awesome.

I liked Frenchy, and I totally did not envision a trade like this, but after they said they were gonna need a lot of stuff to pry Washburn, this looks like the steal of the century. Yay Dave, you didn’t suck for once!

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love this deal

We all know the Tigers have a weak farm system. When I saw that they traded for Washburn, I was pumped, but was afraid to see the prospects they give up. I figured one of Sizemore, Crosby, or Iorg would be in the deal. Instead, they dealt two prospects who didn’t make Baseball Prospectus’ top 11 Tigers prospects. This is a masterstroke, and it leaves the cupboard stocked for another deal.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 31, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Via MLBTR

“SI’s Jon Heyman reports that the Yankees are pessimistic about making a big move, with Washburn off the table.”

We also ruined the Yankees trading abilities! Go Tigers!

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bonus!!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just perusing Washburn's stats.

He had a 1.44 ERA in July over 43 innings. Yikes.

by StringTheory on Jul 31, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and now

that ERA belongs to us.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hope he can keep it up

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on a few things.

The HR rate he’s putting up is going to regress eventually. You can try to hope that it doesn’t happen this season.

Is the Tigers outfield defense as good as the Mariners? Anderson, Thomas, and Granderson are a pretty nice OF defense but its just not the same as Seattle.

Also, Safeco is death to flyballs and right-handed hitters. So that was a huge advantage Wash had that is now gone as well.

by CKremer on Jul 31, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I concur

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except

Two of your top three are still Edwin Jackson and Jarrod Washburn…

by CKremer on Jul 31, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh I am starving

but I don’t want to leave!!!

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just go

I promise anything you miss will be worth it tomorrow :)

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what kind what kind what kind?

What project are you working on? Or is this just adding to your stash?

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok. Back.

I’ve got friends with a four month old daughter. So far I’ve made a blanket and kimono for her. Now I’m looking at “toddler” dresses. Gonna turn her into a girly-girl. but her father is a baseball fan (though a Red Sox rooter) so she will still understand the finer points of the great game.

by NCDee on Jul 31, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because a team that needed a veteran starter got one?

That makes no sense.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because we're distracted by his "shiny ERA"

And we gave up something good for him.

I’ll say it again- I’d take his FIP of 3.75. I’d take his career ERA of 4. I’d probably be okay with what Cameron says he should be at (4.4). Because we gave up a #4 starter and a bullpen arm.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4.4 and veteran poise

Is better than what would have been in the rotation in his place. An improvement is an improvement.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FIP is deflated due to that HR-rate.....

The truth of the matter is the big difference in the deal is player control.

Give Wash the benefit of the doubt and say that he’s an upgrade over French, well your veteran #4 starter is gone in 2 months while they’ve got that #4 French for 6 years…. AND a nice bullpen arm.

Its worth it if you guys can make the playoffs this year, but in terms of total value its a loss for Detroit.

by CKremer on Jul 31, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let em

You know where the Mariners are going this year? Nowhere

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ok

they were making fun of us when Washburn pitched last week for them

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please don't get me excited over luke scott.

You have NO IDEA how badly I want him in a Tigers’ uniform.

by B-Race Miles on Jul 31, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stop drooling

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chills ran up and down

my spine after I read that….C’mon DD. Just do it.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do it, do it, DO IT

C’mon DD, as long as you don’t sell the farm, you gotta pluck Scott from Baltimore.

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what sort of stinks?

Washburn is yet another Scott Boras client

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

most all the big names belong to Boras

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha

we have like 8 names on there

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what that tells me

is DD doesn’t let Boras scare him off, like some other GM’s

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not yet

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luke Scott RUMOUR

But nothing yet.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my fault

just a little excited over here is all

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I picture

Scott in left Clete in right….

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that too

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I am going Wednesday, I would like to see him In OUR uniform instead of theirs. Not just for a game though, for a few seasons would be nice.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone mention that Luke Scott was in a slump right now?

He’ll almost assuredly bust out of it next week.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

one look at the D on the uniforms

And he’s hitting balls into orbit.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay I'm just gonna go home for lunch.

have food I need to eat there and I can stay in the loop, see you guys in a bit

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay gang

I’m going to go take a shower and hope that things will happen while I’m gone.

by kendra.michelle on Jul 31, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey...

The Luke Scott speculation started while I was in the shower, so it’s worth a shot.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just be careful

You’ll turn into a prune trying to get the right player to the Tigers.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's what scares me

Kenny Williams of the White Sox has been known to make big trades. He could trade the whole farm system to get Halladay

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It also scares me that the White Sox have been suspiciously quiet

And Mark Kotsay doesn’t count.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta get some work done.

I’ll keep my ear posted to my tweets

by VegasTigers on Jul 31, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Had to share this.....

Washburn, 31, has gone 8-6 with a 2.64 ERA (third best in AL) in 20 starts for the Mariners this season, allowing just 109 hits and 33 walks in 133 innings pitched. He was 4-1 in July with a 1.44 ERA in six starts.

by VegasTigers on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

low walks low walks low walks!!!!

HOW EXCITING!!!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THanks for posting that Luke Scott rumor

Made me look really smart in Big League Stew’s chat just now.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who would you guys rather see get Halladay? Twins or White Sox?

I know that neither will get him but if one did, I think I’d rather it be the Twins because the Sox scare me more this year.

by B-Race Miles on Jul 31, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

neither

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I rather see Sox if I had to choose

We have more trouble against the Twins and hold our own (3of4 last week) with Sux

by VegasTigers on Jul 31, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if death is not an option, Twins

I hate both teams, but the White Sox are much douchier and I like Halladay a lot.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree

as much as I love him, if they are trading for Scott, they need to deal one of their young outfielders, say, Clete Thomas.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 31, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Mariner's fans at SB Nation

are pretty pumped about this trade.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 31, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's just excitement for having gotten anything remotely useful for Washburn

When a year ago we couldn’t have gotten anything for him, and yesterday we were being told we were probably going to be stuck with him. We’re seeing it as trading a 35 year old expensive Washburn for a 23 year old cheap (with 5 years of team control) Washburn 2.0 and a nice live arm with upside in Robles as a bonus. People are excited because we managed to immediately replace Washburn and add something else. Of course, once everyone calms down and remembers that we hate Washburn and thus we’ll probably be equally frustrated with Washburn 2.0 they won’t be as excited, but nonetheless it’s a good move for the M’s.

No one’s terribly excited about French, we’re just excited that we actually got something for Washburn.

by Terminator X on Jul 31, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are excited

Because the difference in ability between French and Washburn is negligible while the difference in how long each player will be with their new respective teams is massive.

Wash may push you guys into the playoffs this year. That is FANTASTIC!

But no matter what he did he wasn’t going to help the Ms there, they are just too far out. So they swapped him for 6 years of his replacement. Congrats. For a rebuilding team that is a good reason to be happy.

by CKremer on Jul 31, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First, it says likely.

Secondly, Mack is right, never believe a written word.

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok.

I will trust all of you, but I felt the need to post.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't scare me

He’s more of a whiny B then anything. Hot July, but he’ll cool.

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This means they wouldn't be getting Scutaro

Which means I still think we can make a good push for him.

Why?

We wouldn’t have to give up too much to get him. He can play some 3B for us this season to allow Inge to take days off frequently or to do on the DL. Then we can re-sign him next season and he can be our new starting SS, for roughly the same amount as Adam Everett would cost. He is better than Everett.

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's what DodgersDan says:

“Most underrated pitcher in trade talks. Washburn has been putting together an amazing season. Great move by the Tigers. I was hoping the Dodgers would move on him if they couldn’t manage to get Halladay.

… can we have Edwin Jackson back? ;)"

I like reading this stuff, cuz it makes us seem in a really enviable position.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dodgers would’ve been “stupid” to acquire Washburn. They have no need for what would most likely be a 5th starter. Dodgers are already in the playoffs (99%) and you only need four starters for the playoffs and Washburn can walk and is only Type B.

vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 31, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lips are sealed :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Read the last two sentances

“Cabrera, 34, is hitting .280/.318/.365 on the season in 448 plate appearances. He has $1.75MM remaining on his contract, once you factor in a $250K bonus for being dealt. Though he profiles as a Type A free agent after the season, Cabrera’s agent wisely negotiated a clause disallowing his club to offer arbitration. So, no draft picks for the team for the loss and no impediment to signing Cabrera from the player’s point of view.”

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB trade rumors

Says its not a done deal, Brown denies it.

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHY LUKE SCOTT???

He can’t play defense…potentially a 1b for orioles next year and super religious, which may not bode well with the clubhouse. do not get him.

by Tigersin2010 on Jul 31, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

something else

that religion ruins =)

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 31, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's super religious!???

Is that a negative? How is that a negative?

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lolololol

Blockbuster of the day!

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vinny Rottino

Sounds like a new shape of pasta.

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a dish at Carrabba’s.

Bless You Boys

by Ian Casselberry on Jul 31, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh???

The brewers dropped Vargas after he stunk up Miller Park a couple of years ago….and now they trade for him again?

Geez, what’s next, get Doug Davis from the DBacks, so they can get the band back together again?

Official BYB Juju Consultant...now accepting rally creature applications!

by ahtrap on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

massive amounts of chocolate may be required to soothe her pain

If there is a shortage of chocolate or ice cream or something in Texas, we will know the cause.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Porcello were somehow traded...

I think she make take her own life

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

even if he were traded to Texas?

He’d be closer to her then.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't eat chocolate...

Because then I’ll get fat.

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Keith Law on ESPN

says Robles ends up a bullpen guy.

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 31, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Lookout Landing folk think we are retarded for thinking this is a good trade for us

They are wrong. I see this trade being pretty much even in terms of improvement on both sides. Luke French was good this year, but he showed no signs of being amazing or even continuing his good pitching ways for the rest of the year. Of course, he could very well mature into a great pitcher, but we also have Ricky Porcello who has a better chance of doing that. No loss there for us, potential gain for the M’s. I had heard nothing of Robles until today, so that proves that he wasn’t nearly the best prospect we had in our system. From what I have heard, he is good, but needs a good deal of work. Have fun M’s with him, whether he ends up good or bad.

On to Washburn. The Tigers needed a quality left-handed pitcher. We also needed some veteran presence. Aside from Carlos Guillen, we are a team full of really good young guys. Washburn adds both of those qualities instantly. The M’s fans are saying that he was having a fluke of a season and that his “sparkling ERA” some of us have raved about is an abnormality. This doesn’t matter. The odds that we keep him for a long time seem low. We do not need him, right now, to stick with the Tigs for a long time. We need a guy like him to ensure that we get to the playoffs, have a brick wall of good pitching come playoff time, and fill the requirements I noted in the first two lines of this paragraph. If he does this, the Tigers received today just as much as the M’s did. Who knows; if he continues to rock like he has so far this season for the rest of the season, we may have won the deal if we resign him for the coming years and he pitches anywhere near his career average 4.00 ERA. To those who say Jarrod will not do as well without his catcher, or without King Felix in front of him, this is not a big deal, seeing as Laird is one of the best defensive catchers in the league, and Justin Verlander or Edwin Jackson will be pitching in front of him. He should be able to work well with that situation. One other point; I know he is a fly-ball pitcher, and this is good for us, seeing as the CoPa is very spacious and also, we have one of the best defenses in the AL. If someone hits something far off Jarrod, Grandy will probably corral it no problem.

In conclusion, I feel this is a win-win situation for both teams. I see no downside to this trade whatsoever. Congrats M’s fans, but I am happy I am a Tiger at this moment.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It certainly looks like it

I’m hoping it’s largeness attracts any Mariners fans who are checking this blog out.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ask and ye shall receive.

I love this deal for the Mariners, because if you look at the whole of Jarrod Washburn’s M’s tenure there was no guarentee that we’d ever get anything of value for him let alone a guy who fits our stadium well (French) and a minor leaguer with some upside (Robles). There was absolutely no reason to keep him. We had to trade him, and that we got value in the process can only be construed as a win.

As for your side of the deal…there is no doubt that Washburn is pitching better than he has…ever, but how much of that is attributable to park factors + stellar outfield defense + luck and how much is attributable to a genuine increase in skill (aka “the flipper”) + intestinal fortitude?

In the end, I guess a slight regression from the current so-called “shiny” numbers but Washburn, in a mental groove and determined, ends up being what you hoped for and does his part in helping carry you to the play-offs. Mere speculation but the best I can do.

Good luck.

by Omerta on Jul 31, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but a good analysis

I basically just said “why are the Tigers stupid for getting a decent veteran starting left-handed pitcher when what they needed was a decent veteran starting left-handed pitcher?”

Good ERA is a bonus, but the low walkage is better. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Both teams got what they needed. That’s normally why trades happen.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're overrating Robles

He may be top-5 in the Tigers system, but we dealt from a position of depth. He’s a reliever in the end, something that the M’s have plenty of. A solid prospect, potential setup guy, but we’ve lost worse.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's not top 5 in the Tiger system

According to Baseball Prospectus, he’s not top 11 in our system

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 31, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As of last year

The M’s are asserting he’s top 5 in the system.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, things have changed

We’ve played half a season- these lists change.

I’ll be doing a list this weekend, btw.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

I don’t think Robles is top 5. Top 10 maybe.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have returned

although not to much breaking news, it seems.

by kendra.michelle on Jul 31, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MLBTR seems to be bogged down with heavy traffic.

They need to purchase single day bandwidth upgrades.

by StringTheory on Jul 31, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've noticed that

It’s taking forever for the page to load every time I hit refresh

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

09 Washburn = 06 Kenny Rogers

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Jul 31, 2009 1:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

That's what it's looking like

That’s what I’m hoping for as well. Rogers without some of the toughness.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick!

Find a cameraman to bode Washburn into a fight!

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I don't think we have to resort to those extremes

Just bring in Nolan Ryan and have him yell at Jarrod for a while.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Red Sox are acquiring Victor Martinez

If we don’t sweep the Indians this weekend, we should be ashamed.

by B-Race Miles on Jul 31, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aaaaand we're screwed

Boston now will never lose ever again.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeahhhhhh

4-game series IN Boston in August for us. And the first of those games is being broadcast on ESPN (according to the schedule). That’ll be a fun week.

by kendra.michelle on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if he was traded to the Tigers? :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your mancrush in the very same state, playing for your own team. :D

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Not the curse of ESPN!

Blech. :(

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh boy!

Can’t wait!

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But it should be so much fun! And a national audience will be exciting!

//scheduling when to puke from anxiety

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Kansas City(?) are just getting rid of everyone.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tek

offense = down, they already have too many 1B right now anyway…

by busta on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boston

Still has a big fight on their hand with the Yankees and Rays, Smotlz isn’t living up to expectations and DiceK is out. I wouldn’t hand it to them yet… I don’t think I’m looking forward to that 4 gamer in Aug right now though…

by busta on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Smoltz

28 K’s to 5 walks in 30 innings pitched?

I’d say he’s doing everything he can. Bad luck happens sometimes. So does bad defense.

by CKremer on Jul 31, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

back from lunch

and nothing new? Oh well … 2 hours is a long time.

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too hard to follow

I’ve got this window, the live chat, the MLB rumors feed and Sportscenter going. I’m not sure this is a healthy situation.

by NCDee on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sensory overload

So what kind of yarn did you get? :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Caron "Spa"

It’s a bamboo blend and the color is “Ocean” — kind of a light teal. Now I just have to find a pattern I like.

by NCDee on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a skein of the Spa - in the same color, too!

There is a scarf pattern I have that uses sport weight, and the first yarn I used I didn’t like the way the pattern stitch draped. I thought the Spa might be better but I’ve been too busy trying to figure out a pumpkin basket for my little niece for Halloween to try the stitch yet. Too many projects and stupid work and chores keep getting in the way.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know what you mean.

I have a shawl, a bag and a shell all going now. Why I’m starting a new project I couldn’t tell you. Except it’s fun to go back and forth among projects so you don’t get bored.

by NCDee on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to mention

Buying more yarn on the off chance that I’ll find something to do with it eventually – besides, it was on clearance and a great price! (My mom says that I am truly her dad’s granddaughter. I’ve been called worse.) :)

Although I did go through my stash and pull out three full paper grocery bags of novelty yarns that I can’t see myself actually doing anything with anytime soon, and I’m going to call around and see if I can find somewhere to take them off my hands. I’m keeping all the standard worsted weight, the Fun Fur, and the ribbon and ladder yarns that I picked up because those I have at least some vague ideas for. Also keeping all the cotton, because my sister and parents like the dishcloths I make out of that.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

same

head spinning

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

I have this, live chat, MLBTradeRumors, and the live coverage online from MLB.com. And I’m trying to pack because I’m going out of town this weekend. Overwhelming.

by kendra.michelle on Jul 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

San Diego wanted Florida to give up Cameron Maybin and Andrew Miller for closer Heath Bell.

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lmao

so basically they didn’t want to trade Heath Bell that badly

by explosivo2k2 on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...

Essentially, Miguel Cabrera for Heath Bell. Lolz.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is the sort of thing

you wish you had that “Force Trade” button in real life.

I always assume one GM has a stack of illicit photos of the other GM. “Maybe you would like to rethink that Evan Longoria for Zach Miner trade”

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or wish that more teams had a Mike Milbury clone as the GM. :D

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love this.

From @OFFICIAL_TIGERS: Tigers now have three of the top six ERA’s in AL… Jackson 2.59, Washburn 2.64 and Verlander 3.13. Verlander leads AL with 172 strikeouts.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nooooooooo.

Washburn is fool’s gold!

I’m scared

by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's okay

Reliable lefty starter = NOT Nate Robertson. It’ll be okay.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true that Baroque

And he’s better then Frenchy

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Washburn's defense and pitching at Safeco helped him out.

Comerica is a pitcher’s park and he should get some help from the Tigers’ defense but having had the displeasure of seeing most of Washburn’s tenure in Seattle I think Detroit made a terrible deal.

by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he turns out to be another Doyle Alexander I'll be fine with this trade.

But Washburn’s numbers are shiny and glittery but perhaps not real.

by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they might not be that shiny in reality

But they are certainly respectable. With Verlander and Jackson, respectable will be a very good addition.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

We didn’t add this year’s Armando.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunn

Tigers should give up wilkin ramirez and casey crosby for adam dunn and then they will be unstoppable

by David7 on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't really like Adam Dunn

He looks … not good to me.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

photoshop!

“I have here in front of me a picture of a herd of pygmy goats and you … in a rather … compromising … position. Would you perhaps like to reconsider your opposition to my trade proposal?”

“Would it aid your thought process if I point out that some of the goats are wearing pink tutus”

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where do we play him?

Dunn can’t field.

And why give up that much for the right to pay 20 million dollars to a player who may not even be able to produce in the AL?

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anybody know if the MLB deadline is like the NHL's?

As in the teams just have to notify the league by 4. And news of the trades may not hit until after 4?

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

that

Is an excellent question. I have no idea.

At least the MLB trade deadline has no Pierre (DC) Macguire!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should take a nap.

We still have a baseball game to play tonight.

by NCDee on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Game?

What is this ‘game’ you speak of?

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean...

baseball is more than just gazing at nice, shiny rosters?

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we were promised jetpacks song

on the mlb live trade deadline. nice.

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I took the afternoon off

For other reasons, but it worked out well for this, too. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had to leave for a while

Nothing new?

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

newp

not for us anyway

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you go yarn shopping too? :)

NCDee and I were talking projects.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Dave leans back in his leather chair and thinks

“Boy, those crazy bloggers sure are … crazy for thinking I’m working on things. Day’s over folks! Washburn is my gift to you, accept it!”

At which point I enter his office and bludgeon him with a rock, accentuating every hit with “Luke” and “Scott”.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am almost

inclined to believe that

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have second crack

Alternating between Alex and Rios.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you must.

Although I’m inclined to think DD would get confused. Luke! Alex! Scott! Rios!

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

switch "rock" with "pool noodle"

You want him to still be able to operate his phone. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

done deal

Nick Hagadone and Justin Masterson for Martinez, apparently

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well we know for sure they get last place in the AL central

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Kansas City in last place right now, though?

And Cleveland played really well after they traded Sabathia.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

the Royals are sucking something fierce.

Although, they did nab that power bat Josh Anderson from us, so they could be trouble…

by kendra.michelle on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is still time for the Indians to fall dead last

they’re only a 1 1/2 games ahead of the Royals. And now they no longer have Martinez to bail their asses

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Royals and Indians in some sort of anti-pennant chase.

They’re lucky not to be in the same division as Pittsburgh.

by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard on the radio we bacedk off of

Alex Rios because they wanted us to take Vernon Wells and he has a huge contract, bigger than Magglio’s. I don’t know if that’s a fact but I was listening to sports radio (97.1 the ticket) and that’s what they were saying.

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to believe

That the Tigers would even talk to Toronto about Rios, I don’t think he brings anything to the table. Plus he’s Right handed.

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine

Alex Rios and Vernon Wells AND Scott Rolen for Magglio Ordonez, Nate Robertson, Dontrelle Willis and Carlos Guillen.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd do that trade

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol...but see

we would have Well’s contract and Magglio’s something about Ordonez’s trade clause. I don’t think DD will go for it

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just tell Maggs

that Illich is funding revolutionaries to overthrow Hugo Chavez. That’ll solve it.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pittsburgh must be empty

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty soon

They will need to put “Future Considerations” at second base and have “Cash” in the outfield. Sad. :(

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cash has quite a bit of potential.

Player to be named later is always a crap shoot.

by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB Trade Rumors:

Twins are interested in Bell

Personally, I’d rather he go to the Dodgers if the Twins are now involved

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dear Mr. Dombrowski,

Cleveland is trading everyone so please pick up Shin Soo Choo because he is awesome.

Your friend,
David

by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He has that military requirement, though

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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ooooooohhhhh

That would be nice.

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To think that it only took

Ben Broussard in the first place :)

by CKremer on Jul 31, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone

with some pop in their BAT, please.

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OMFGLMAO!!!

Yankees have agreed to terms with OF/DH Barry Bonds – CBSSports.com

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh no wait...

it’s Jerry Hairston Jr.

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

same difference.

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barry Bonds

I thought he was retired. Steinbrenner Family never ceases to amaze

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at this rate

if we do make a move we will miss it because there’s too much going on

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Things are too quiet

On the Tigers front…C’mon DD!

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Obviously this is how DD operates

quietly

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

silent like ninja? :)

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Silent but deadly

Really. He’s killin’ me.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

//Kmann readies the pool noodles for motivational beating

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to say

if I was a Red Sox fan, I’d be over the moon about getting V-Mart

by ThaWalrus9 on Jul 31, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It makes no sense

to get a guy like Washburn without a bat to compliment it. I mean face it, our offense is less than stellar lately. Months

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll live without a bat

But I won’t be a smilin’ bob thats for sure.

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we won't go very far

without better offense

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Holy crap

Pittsburgh just made another trade. Minor leaguer Sean Smith for “future considerations” from Toronto.

by kendra.michelle on Jul 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MLB Trade Rumors

Tigers interested in reacquiring RHP Jason Grilli from Texas in exchange for AAA prospect 1B/3B Jeff Larish

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

?

I’m super serious!

It’s on the back page.

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WE NEED AN FN BAT

and I despise Grilli

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DAMN!

that’s what I’m sayin

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's awfully

man-pretty

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no need to worry

I think Verlander will stick up for them. :)

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey everyone Ian made a trade deadline chat room for us

Thanks, Ian.

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so we have to get up off the couch and move to the next room?

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BREAKING NEWS!

“Blue Jays acquire SP Roy Halladay in exchange for months of trying to deal him to other teams. "

This appears to be the blockbuster deal of the day. I’ll let you know when more info becomes available.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+100

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott Rolen

He went to the Cincinnati Reds.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Future Considerations

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright

I am going out to smoke DD. When I get back I want a bat.

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

don't you want a bat first?

The beating might be easier. :)

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by Baroque on Jul 31, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, see you soon

I’m the tall guy with the pink noodle.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

19 minutes

and counting

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MLB Trade Rumors reports that:

Atlanta may send Casey Kotchmann to the Red Sox in exchange for Adam LaRoche.

Does not make much sense because Boston STILL has too many first basemen.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Screw that

I want him to tell us that he’s picking up a corner of

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but

do you? I sort of don’t….

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

//dances around the room

for lack of anything else to do

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DD normally can't shut up

So the fact that he hasn’t spoken says he’s up to something, or at least trying

by granderson28 on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least tonight I go to work at five instead of four...

…so I will not be kept in suspense about any more trades.

The game? That may be another matter.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

One of the funniest things ever.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AHHHH

that’s pretty t f’d up

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they sould

send them to Boston with him

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pay for extra luggage fee

Hey, Victor…take this too!!!

by VegasTigers on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he can afford it

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always wondered what happens to a player's merchandise when he gets traded.

My local JC Penney is still selling T-shirts that say “Sheffield” or “Rodriguez” on the back of them. Hell, for a long time they had a Renteria jersey that remained on the racks. I don’t know if it’s still there or not.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like

his name. I would wear the shirt just for that.

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they

would have had to pay me to take one of those, and I still wouldn’t have worn it…….

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they should be cheap now!!

Damn I need to hide my Ordonez shirt

by VegasTigers on Jul 31, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I have mine on today, they’d have to literally take it off my back…..

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still have my Pudge T-shirt (complete with World Series patch)...

Although it’s hanging in the closet and hasn’t been worn since he was traded. I’ve been reduced to just wearing generic Tigers shirts because I haven’t found a satisfactory Verlander T-shirt.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to a game about 10 days after Pudge got traded last year

There was a woman at the game wearing a Pudge jersey with a “broken heart” attached to the back next to the 7.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Jul 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Henning

He’s a bandwagon-er

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah someone linked that earlier

his entire article consists of way too many "might’s and "potentially"s

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still doesn't mean it is entirely wrong.

Washburn might be good or he potentially could become Jarrod Washburn.

by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

there are others out there who have potential too.

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by Detroitchik on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah exactly

so why condemn something that you’re not even sure about?

Every single trade in every sport in the history of mankind has had some sort of risk involved.

Tell us something we don’t already know.

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for rentals but I have watched too many Washburn games to like him.

Combative little last line but I’ll go with it:

There’s a rock over by my neighbor’s home with their cat’s paw print from when it stepped in paint.

by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was referring to Henning...

but okay.

And you need to understand that to an outside, you’re pretty biased having watched him the last few years.

I’ll wait to see him throw and form my own thoughts and opinions.

by Tagne13 on Jul 31, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only problem is that Washburn has a better breaking pitch this year.

The numbers he’s putting up seem to be more because of his defense and ballpark. Comerica and the Tigers defense are comparable to Safeco and the Mariners – except RF where Ichiro runs and CF where Granderson has graded out to league average.

I don’t know; I think that my stance on Washburn coupled with no new bat so far has made me a bit annoyed.

by 13194013 on Jul 31, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a Zumaya 102 MPH zone shirt

Is it worth $1.00,? Do I hear 1.50???

by VegasTigers on Jul 31, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have an autographed ball

from a month or so ago. haha

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That may be worth something

Considering he’s never going to be able to use his arm to sign his name again.

by NCDee on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He jerry-rigged his living room

so he can play guitar hero with his feet.

by CKremer on Jul 31, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

9 and counting

Get teh pool noodles ready.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Jul 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a whole bucket of 'em

Every color, take your pick.

by Kmann on Jul 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the thing that really sucks

is that i have 2 more hours of work after the deadline

by allikazoo on Jul 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

me too

good thing we got a game to look forward to.

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if we dont get a trade done

I am going to be busy picking up my desk because these papers are about to go flying across the room.

by IowaLion on Jul 31, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zappatista says:

Just off the water, many fish caught. Now I must WASH the BURN off of me…

by VegasTigers on Jul 31, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs