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Extra Innings, Sweet Winnings: Tigers 4, Indians 3

So did Rick Porcello officially become a member of the Detroit Tigers' pitching staff tonight? 

He's been in the starting rotation all season, of course.  But the rookie has generally benefited from sturdy run support.  And when the Tigers haven't scored that many runs for him, Porcello gave up enough runs where it might not have mattered, anyway.

But tonight, Kid Rick (thanks to DetroitChik for that nickname) joined his fellow starters in the romper room of pain reserved for those who pitch great, but have no win to show for it because the lineup scored too few runs.  Oh, it is four walls of emotion. 

Porcello pitched the best game of his young career, holding the Indians to one run on four hits.  Even more impressive, he gave the Tigers eight innings when the bullpen needed a break after using seven relievers in Friday night's loss.  67 of his 91 pitches were thrown for strikes, and he allowed only one walk. 

Star-divide

Alas... the kid became the latest victim of the offense's failure to cash in on scoring opportunities, as the Tigers could only give him two runs.  Yet that was almost enough for Porcello as he took a 2-1 lead into the ninth.  Jim Leyland gave him the hook, however, and handed the game to his closer.  Unfortunately, Fernando Rodney picked a fine time to blow his first save of the season.  He only gave up one run, however, so the game went to extra innings for the second straight night.

(Leyland called the decision "a no-brainer" after the game, while acknowledging that the fans probably thought he should've kept Porcello in.) 

From there, the Indians and Tigers each squandered scoring opportunities for two innings.  But Detroit finally broke through in the 12th, after Jose Veras walked the first two hitters and Ryan Raburn drove one in.  (When Miguel Cabrera and Carlos Guillen both made outs before him, it looked like the Tigers were going to waste yet another chance.)  Veras gave up another run (which turned out to be the game-winner) after that by committing a balk, which brought in Clete Thomas

The Tigers go for the series win tomorrow against Carl Pavano, who's somehow looked great in two games against Detroit this season.

Whimper:

12 men left on base, Detroit Tigers.  That's 26 in the first two games of this series. 

And is it time to consider sitting Curtis Granderson down against lefties again?  Grandy was 0-for-5 tonight (though one of those at-bats was against the right-handed Justin Masterson), including a strikeout in which he looked completely overmatched against Tony Sipp

That leaves him with a .183/.267/.267 batting line against left-handed pitching.

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if I develop a tumor I am naming it Rodney

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I don't want to lose Granderson's defense on lefty days.

But moving to the 8 or 9 slot in the order seems imperative at this point.

by StringTheory on Aug 1, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes!!!!!

it is time to sit Granderson versus lefties but who can play centre at even an average level who is also not alefty. Maybe something for DD to address before the waiver deadline. By the By Granderson really hasn’t been an elite defender since ’07 if you beleive that UZR stuff … merely average.

by drew3434 on Aug 1, 2009 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Average defender?

wow thats a crazy comment…..Average like Grady Sizemore is average????…..Wow Crazy

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Says Fangraphs

they could be wrong. Actually in 2008 he was below average. There may be an explanation for the numbers. So it may be wrong but it is perhaps not so crazy.

by drew3434 on Aug 2, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

September

Casper Wells, righthanded outfileder with.921 OPS at Eerie has been playing CF this year. Wilken Ramirez at Toledo has played mostly right and left but certainly has the speed for center. Since could see one or both of these guys in September, it’s unlikely Tigers would make a trade for righthanded centerfielder this month (unless they get rid of Ordonez).

by ddpg4 on Aug 2, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Makes sense

and Ramirez would be worth a look considering he has an OPS over a .1000 vs. lefties but I can’t see who they would send down so yeah I guess in September.

by drew3434 on Aug 2, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

A disheartening stat: Grandy's average against lefties has steadily declined this season

April .292
May .233
June .139
July .100

He becomes a liability, later in games because once they bring in a lefty against him, it’s essentially an automatic out. Of course, later in games he’s an asset due to his defense in CF. So it’s a tough situation and I know it doesn’t help that he’s probably Jim’s favorite player. No one would want to bench Curtis but this team needs all the hits they can get and I see no reason they can’t move him down to the 8 or 9 spot. Call up Wilkin, send down Raburn and now you have someone who can platoon at LF and CF.

by B-Race Miles on Aug 2, 2009 3:29 AM EDT reply actions  

..

Raburn adds versatility especially since he play third which appears to be a necessity with Inge’s bum knee. He may not be the greatest offensive player but he has been average. Clete’s been good too so might as well just deal with Grandy’s futility against lefties. That said he was okay last year (.739 ops) so maybe he finds that.
Another factor though is that he is average/below average in both range and UZR according to fangraphs. But the more I think about it I imagine it is difficult to get even average from a centre fielder. Ramirez could be horrible and that might neturalize better offense from the left side.

by drew3434 on Aug 2, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny people wasn't bad and the Tigers won.

And I went to a great Chinese buffet with lots of fruits, salmon, full salted/grilled talapia and about 35 or 40 other things including hard ice cream. I love that joint so much.

Saturday win!

by 13194013 on Aug 2, 2009 4:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank God

not a one-run Loss again but a one run Win. I can’t take these 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 L anymore ;). Great effort from Kid Rick. He’s done all he can that the Bullpen could rest after the 13 Inning Game yesterday. But at the end useless as F-Rod blows for the first time. Let’s take the series today, please. When was the last time the Tigs won a series away from home this season? Can’t remember ;)

Shame on you, Yankees. Can’t believe the scores of the 3 games so far. Burnett walking #9 Hitter Nix 2-times with bases loaded

Greetings from Germany. Dirk

by Germantiger on Aug 2, 2009 5:51 AM EDT reply actions  

F Rod....

…didnt blow it……the offense had a chance to get 2 or 3 more runs through out the game….2nd and 3rd none out one inning and no runs…..The offense blew Ricks Win….Not Fernando…i dont get riping Fernando this year hes been great.

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rodney

He’s been good, but last night was a blown save, 1st of the year but it counts. That’s what a closer is supposed to do, nail down one run games, so yes he blew it. You’re not going to hear a BoSox or Twins fan say the offense blew it when Papelbon or Nathan can’t hold a 1-0 or 2-1 lead.

ABC baby, always be closing.

by ALWAYSBCLOSING on Aug 2, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Setting my DVR

for the afternoon game today. Off to work. Last night almost killed me.

"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

WANTED: Dead or Alive

Someone who can drive runs in.

"It's designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything is new again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops, and leaves you to face the fall alone". A. Bartlett Giamatti

by densogirl on Aug 2, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you sure dead is okay?

That doesn’t seem very helpful to me.

by wepri31 on Aug 2, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

if he can drive in runs while dead

Then he must be really awesome!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

+ a gazillion

touche

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rewatch the 6th and 7th....

….when the tigs blew golden opprutunities to get runs each inning that would have got Rick his win

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I watched on GameCast

Does that count?

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 2, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's ok

I don’t really enjoy torture that much

by allikazoo on Aug 2, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have assurances...

that there were fewer pop-ups and more lineouts and good plays from Indians defenders that prevented runs from scoring.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 2, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Should be a hell of a game today in Chicago

CC vs. Buehrle……. we need the Sox to lose today, but with Buehrle on the mound, well you know what I’m thinkin….

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I read this morning...

…that Buehrle is 1-5 career against the Yankees, and that he has never defeated CC in a head-to-head matchup.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 2, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

well I like that

but lately Buehrle is pitching like a demon

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did lose to the Twins last time, though...

Went from perfect to losing the game

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 2, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, I like that too

Sox are so close, I hate them

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right now

it sure feels like a bad one

by Tagne13 on Aug 2, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

so

is it being too nosy to ask if there is a follow up date forthcoming?

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

nosy or not

We’re asking. Are you going to go out again?

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

cajones. I like

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah if I can acquire those Tiger tickets for Monday we will be going

she said she’d take off work.

I think the fact we’d get to tour the clubhouse, training room, and field/dugouts helped though.

by Tagne13 on Aug 2, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like it could be serious, maybe?

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

we kid because we care

No pressure, honestly. :)

I’m glad you had a date that won’t go in the file marked “cautionary tales when I think a friend is dating a pyscho.”

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Impressive

but look at it this way, if she really didn’t have fun (or like you), she’d probably say no. I know I would. No matter what you offered. Chemistry is important. I wouldn’t go if there was no chemistry. But I am honest like that…..

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

depends

If the offer was impressive enough, I’d go out one more time anyway. My price is quite high, though. :D

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I generally know if I like spending time with someone right away. But to walk by #30’s spot in the club house would add to things….lol

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

not to use him, to be clear

But because maybe the first time, if it wasn’t very much fun, was because of nervousness. Everyone deserves a second chance.

Especially if I think the idea for a second date is more appealing than the first.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

She better not use him !!!!

you have a point. There are always jitters the first time around. But if someone doesn’t give me “butterflies” then I am kind of like, meh…

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

I’ve known guys like that – heck, I was engaged to one for years – so I know the signs. I’ll kick the little tart’s ass if she decides to be a manipulative bitch.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

+100

I would be there with you. Poor tag. we have him dating, married and broken up all before the second date….lol

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

we are just looking out for him

Like his older sisters. :D

I’m certainly not the person for advice on GOOD relationships, though – I’ve had too many emotional bruises and it has made me jumpy. Sometimes I feel like I have a big neon sign above my head that says “Nice lady! Please take emotional advantage as she is easy to gain the sympathy of!”

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have some stories

The last guy I dated (a couple years ago) actually dumped me because he didn’t like that I didn’t act dim around his friends so he could impress them more. I was too smart for him (and knew too much about hockey, too).

I don’t play dumb for anyone.

And we ran into each other in the library! He couldn’t think I was illiterate or anything.

Too bad, because he seemed very sweet. I don’t know why he was so insecure.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha

she ended up paying for most of the drinks

by Tagne13 on Aug 2, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

hee hee

Not a freeloader then. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

She got you drunk? Maybe there’s a lot more from last night you don’t remember.

by NCDee on Aug 2, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, but I remember

going in for the hug and kissing her on the forehead….then she asked “you’re not done are you”

by Tagne13 on Aug 2, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nervousness?

nothing 2 mg Lorazepam can’t handle

by Tagne13 on Aug 2, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

^^ what she said

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry to hear the Loons lost, but you did say you wouldn’t be paying that much attention anyway. I figured with the rain delay either you would get to know her well and have a nice conversation, or you would want to throttle each other.

Didn’t sound like the fireworks were dampened by the rain (at least judging by the booming noises I could hear after the game).

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

We played a game

since we both don’t really know the players we just picked one and tried to see who had the better game. I said I’d pick whoever is #13. As luck would have it that night, that was the starting pitcher, Ethan Martin. She picked the 1B. Looking at the score of the game, you can see who won that game.

No we did not want to throttle each other. Luckily, i was smart enough to bring an extra fleece because she didn’t think about doing that. Plus our seats were just barely under the overhang so we didn’t get too wet.

Yes, they still had the fireworks.

by Tagne13 on Aug 2, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

So if Grandy is a liability....

……Then so is Inge….he cant keep going out there and not hit.

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Feel bad for Rick....

…..but the offense lost that game for him….he definelty is in the club of no run supp[ort now….Easily should have had 3 runs befiore the 9th.

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

book or movie?

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

movie..

I’ve been watching since thursday. haha

by allikazoo on Aug 2, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read the book once… I’ve seen the movie at least 20 times (no lie) I can quote dialogue from it. yes, I am a dork.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha. I've never read/seen it

I have about 45 minutes left, will prob finish it sometime today

by allikazoo on Aug 2, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love it. Because that era in history has always appealed to me. Makes a difference if you would enjoy it or not.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, totally

I’ve always liked movies in that period as well, and the civil war interests me too

by allikazoo on Aug 2, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

never read the book or seen the movie

Just never really appealed to me.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

but some historians say

It will rise again….

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

some historians are on crack :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

my old history teacher

called it “the war of northern agression.” take a guess which side his relatives were on?

by mrsunshine on Aug 2, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

off to wash dishes before the game

see you guys at game time

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 2, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

me, too

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 2, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm off to the store

I meant to leave an hour and a half ago, and now I’ll probably miss the beginning of the game. I may be around later after the game, depending on how well Galarraga pitches. Have fun in the gamethread today.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com

by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 2, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Another gem from "Scoop" in the Freep comments
Cleveland balks at winning

by "Scoop" Johnson

CLEVELAND—Capitalizing on baseball’s most thrilling play—a balk—the Detroit offensive juggernaut rolled on at Regressive Field against a storied Indians franchise that won a World Series as recently as 1948, and based on recent personnel moves, should win another by 2048.

In the bottom of the ninth, Fernando Rodney came into the game wearing a pair of pajamas, and the Indians contained their laughter long enough to tie the game and force extra innings again.

Rick Porcello, who looked completely in control on the mound for eight innings, showed signs of severe stomach distress as a spectator.

Detroit’s "Cash for Clunkers" lineup stranded 12 men, after leaving 14 on base the game before.

Although it was Victor Martinez bobblehead night, the Cleveland telecast made no mention of it, obviously hoping that Indians fans do not think about Martinez—or his being traded to Boston—ever, ever again.

Love the “Cash for Clunkers” line.

by NCDee on Aug 2, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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