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Lunchtime Prowl: Pinch-Hitting For Everett, Magglio's 2010 Option, Rios in White Sox, and Steroids Fatigue

  After last night's 6-5 loss to the Red Sox, Jim Leyland said he didn't pinch-hit for Adam Everett in the eighth inning, because he thought Everett would put the ball in play.  Ramon Santiago and Ryan Raburn weren't better options, in his mind, and Alex Avila just wasn't going to be used.

  Samara gives us a sample of the Red Sox broadcast from last night, including Dennis Eckersley's thoughts on Magglio Ordonez cutting his hair, at Roar of the Tigers.

  At Tiger Tales, Lee thinks it's pretty likely that Magglio Ordonez is going to reach the required number of plate appearances that will trigger that $18 million option for 2010.  He's less than 100 away now.

  Lynn Henning has reached the same conclusion.  Though Maggs is playing because he's begun to hit (while players such as Ryan Raburn have slumped), Henning wonders if this is ultimately due to Mike Ilitch saying he'll pay that $18 million option for 2010.

  At The Spot Starters, Blake wonders if the Tigers' top three starting pitchers are starting to show some fatigue, judging from how they've pitched over the past two weeks.

  In light of Casey Crosby's start last night for the West Michigan Whitecaps, Take 75 North takes a look at his overall season.  Factor in some typical growing pains for a 20-year-old coming off major arm surgery, but Crosby's future looks very promising. 

UPDATE: If you're wondering why Crosby only pitched three innings last night, it's because his index finger split open.  This is according to his brother, who left a comment on T75N.  Crosby just began throwing a two-seam fastball, and needs to get used to it.

  Outfielder Alex Rios is now with the White Sox, after the Blue Jays let him go on a waiver claim yesterday.  Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune called the transaction "shocking."  Both Ken Rosenthal and Keith Law think Rios will be better playing center field than he was in right field.

Star-divide

  I still think the White Sox claimed Rios on waiver to block him from possibly going to the Tigers, but Danny Knobler writes that Williams has coveted Rios for some time.  Between Rios and Jake Peavy, Kenny Williams has taken on $110 million worth of salary to be paid over the next four to five years.

 

  Is Leyland right about fans not caring about steroids talk in baseball?  Mack Avenue Tigers says yes, believing people are fatigued with the story.  I'm inclined to agree with him.  Fans like their home runs, they like their scoring.  But most of all, I think people go to their sports for escape, and care more about what's happening on the field.

  Jamie Samuelsen, however, thinks Leyland is wrong.  Or does he?  He takes issue with Leyland saying people who do care about steroids "probably don't like baseball."  Yet he then agrees that people are tired of steroid talk.  And then it becomes about... the Lions?

  Rogo tries to make sense of it all at DesigNate Robertson, combing through every one of Samuelsen's words thoroughly and having plenty to say about them in response.

  According to the Boston Globe's Adam Kilgore, maybe Nick Green's home run last night vs. the Tigers shouldn't have been so surprising.  Since making an adjustment in his stance, he's been making good contact.  And when Green connects for a home run at Fenway Park, the ball tends to go far.

  Kyle Steuf (who checks in here under the screen name MitdaKayo) raved about watching a Tigers game on his iPhone (with the MLB At-Bat 2009 application) for the new AnnArbor.com.  This might be the winning argument in my internal "Do I get an iPhone or Blackberry" conflict.  Or maybe I'll just get an iPod Touch.  I dunno.

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yeah well...

Leyland’s mind failed on that call. Tougher to swallow mainly because Everett’s at bat was sooo bad.

by Detroit4lyfe on Aug 11, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am sure by now

all of you know what I think about Lynn Henning. I am sure all of you know by now what I think about Magglio Ordonez as well.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 11, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Henning sucks.

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 11, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Maggs gets his at bats.

and I hope we keep him next year. I think he will do fantastic. the old Maggs will return!

Tammy

by VegasTigers on Aug 11, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's lookin' like it.

I have had a chubby since that last double….yay

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 11, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HA!

I am without speech…

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 11, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey

one of the young master’s level chicks i work with saw your pic (the one with Rand) and said …. Who’s that guy. I said that’s Kevin Rand she said NOOOOO, the young dude… she’s very cute.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 11, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

she pointed at you, dude.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 11, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pics

or it didn’t happen

by Tagne13 on Aug 11, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

email me w your email and I’ll email pic to you directly…my email is in my profile

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 11, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

I do not care about “the list”. It’s a HIPA violation that it’s even being leaked out. Who cares!! It wasn’t illegal back then. That’s why they started the testing in the first place, to see what percentage of players were taking. THEN they made it all illegal. I do care now, if someone tests positive. (manny) no pointing fingers or anything. Whatever happened to Alex Sanchez?

Tammy

by VegasTigers on Aug 11, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Amen to what Ian and Kurt's sentiments regarding the issue

Baseball is still baseball and it’s the greatest sport in the world, but with that being said I’d like to know the entire list if not just for curiosity’s sake, but as sort of a closure (even though I don’t doubt that there are A LOT more names who used steroids that won’t be on that list).

by Detroit4lyfe on Aug 11, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The trickier thing about steroids ...

Is that when lumped in under “performance enhancers” in general, things get a lot more fuzzy. People understand performance enhancers – commercials are full of products to whiten teeth (because your smile isn’t bright enough), tone muscles (because you look too flabby), color hair (because you look old), improve eyesight (because you feel old and glasses are unattractive – unless expensive and stylish, or course), improve focus and memory (because dog FORBID you actually reduce some of your work and family and home committments, because that will hurt your advancement), improve romantic performance, etc. etc. etc. The prevailing message isn’t that using something to enhance your performance is “cheating” – it is that NOT using something to enhance your performance is the mark of a Luddite loser who is behind the times and doomed to be left in the dust of those who are on the cutting edge.

I think that is part of the reason why so many people don’t care abotu performance enhancement – to them, it just makes sense. Foggy ideals of fairness are no competition for the cold, hard light of logic.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 11, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that's why Illitch is one of the greatest owners in sports

He wants to win. If I was Magglio I’d be more than honored to have my owner say that when he should know damn well he doesn’t deserve that kind of money. Winning is what’s most important no matter what and if Illitch says he’s going to pay Magglio if he continues to hit this season to help our chances then by all means who cares? We’re not paying him, Illitch is. There’s no cap and the Motor City Bowl is now the Little Caesars Pizza Pizza Bowl so I think Illitch will be fine in terms of cash flow and putting a competitive team on the field for the years to come.

by Detroit4lyfe on Aug 11, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

My son works at Ltl Caesers here. So Illitch is technically helping me pay my mortgage. And I buy pizza every Friday night to support “my team”. ;)

Tammy

by VegasTigers on Aug 11, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haven't seen that?

though lately I’ve been trying to not to get hot-n-ready’s every week like I usually do.

by allikazoo on Aug 11, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I drove by one on my way to a Baskin Robins...

And it said the price was $5.50? Did they raise it?

by ZWC11 on Aug 11, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

unsure

I live in TX, last time I got one it was still $5

by allikazoo on Aug 11, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Price ...

the price depends on if the LC in question is an independent or franchise. I have seen 5.99 hot n ready. Also, my favorite LC comercial is the sticky notes on the dad, and if you look really close, the sticky note says “cold n ready”.

Don't drive angry!

by Dan Gurney on Aug 11, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have almsot no food in my house

am now tempted to pick one up later. crap.

by allikazoo on Aug 11, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought I was the only one who noticed

the cold n ready

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by Detroitchik on Aug 11, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5.00 for a corporate store....

higher if it is a franchise store, because they have to re-coop the money they have to give to corporate to use their name.

Tammy

by VegasTigers on Aug 11, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

$5 in W-S as well

Cheap fast and easy meal- my roommate and I got them all the time last year.

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 11, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any possibilities of this happening??

“The irony is that the Tigers could actually use Sheffield right now. Imagine if they reacqired him.”

Posted by: metfan57 | August 11, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Tammy

by VegasTigers on Aug 11, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good question

I wonder if we are one of the teams he doesnt want to come to though?

Left on pretty bad terms … didnt he?

by IowaLion on Aug 11, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the millions of dollars lining his pockets when he left might assuage some of the bad feelings

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by ahtrap on Aug 11, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

iPod Touch rocks

my $.02

MLB At Bat 2009 (the $10 version) is a great way to follow the game when there’s no TV. You can hear the radio broadcast of any game, from either team’s announcers. You can follow the pitches on Gameday, see the more important plays within a couple of minutes on replay and get a summary instantly.

I have it on my iTouch (G1) and if there is a day game I can listen to the game in my office (with a docking station set of speakers).

I wouldn’t get the iPhone, the iTouch is just as good and no ATT.

by murrajo on Aug 11, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Don't drive angry!

by Dan Gurney on Aug 11, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cletus and maggs both in tonight's lineup

 Granderson cf, Polanco 2b, Thomas lf, Cabrera 1b, Guillen dh, Ordonez rf, Avila c, Inge 3b, Santiago ss, Porcello p

by allikazoo on Aug 11, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, w00t

still no Thames though…lame

by Tagne13 on Aug 11, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and opie's prob being punished. heheh

maybe he will PR for one of miggy’s singuels or something

by allikazoo on Aug 11, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to Thames out there too….

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 11, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dead-pull, fly-ball RH hitter + Green Monster = Free Marcus Thames!

Cheer for The Only Colors: Green and White!

by KJ@theonlycolors on Aug 11, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adam Evertt

After watching him strike out last night I really don’t care to see him the rest of the season. There are no excuses for what he did!!!!! " you get the run home"

by msivits on Aug 11, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah, well, judging by the lowlights...

…the all star up after him didn’t exactly do us proud, either…

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by ahtrap on Aug 11, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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