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Game 116: Royals at Tigers

Kansas City Royals at Detroit Tigers, Aug 15, 2009 7:05 PM EDT


  Luke Hochevar (6-5, 5.38) vs.   Edwin Jackson (8-5, 2.79), 7:05 p.m. EST

I think Mario Impemba said it best during last night's post-game show on Fox Sports Detroit: There's no pressure on Edwin Jackson.  He only has to follow two straight shutouts by his fellow starting pitchers.  Hey, it's not impossible.  Jackson has shut out the opposition in four of his starts this season. 

But Jackson has had a problem getting to the fifth inning in two of his last three outings.  Are teams beginning to figure out a game plan for him?  Take pitches, foul off what they can't hit, and make Jackson run up a high pitch count that gets him out of there early.  However, those two four-inning starts were both on the road.  Maybe Jackson's a bit sharper at home?  In 10 starts at Comerica Park this season, he's 5-1 with a 2.79 ERA. 

Pitching for the Royals, Luke Hochevar is on whatever the opposite of a roll is.  He's winless in his past three starts, having given up 15 runs and 25 hits over 18 innings.  Hochevar hasn't faced the Tigers yet this year, but he was two different pitchers against them last year.  In one start, he allowed no runs and four hits in six innings.  In the other, he was rocked for seven runs and eight hits in five innings.  Both those games were in Kansas City.  In six starts on the road this year, Hochevar is 2-3 with a 7.41 ERA.

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lions are on

they’re losing…not helping…

i apologize now if i’m slightly negative today guys. girlfriend issues last night, this morning, and then i find out my grill got stolen by some drunk walking by last night…

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

we should win

Jackson has a quality start in 8 of his last 10 games. That’s 6 IP or more with 3 ER or less in 8/10.

by actioncuse on Aug 15, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Heading to the pub

to catch up with some friends after being out of town working all week. Let’s hope that we don’t require late inning heroics!

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Aug 15, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

chisox 7-1 bottom 8th

tribe 7-2 over MN in the sixth

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

This Phillies- Braves game on Fox

has had no play by play announcers. Quite nice.

by NCDee on Aug 15, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

oh cmon

intentional grounding?

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

ignore that. wrong thread

commenting on the lions game one as well

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

chisox win

we need to win this game

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Lineup

Granderson CF
Polanco 2B
Thomas RF
Cabrera 1B
Guillen DH
Thames LF
Avila C
Inge 3B
Santiago SS

by NCDee on Aug 15, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

no josh in KC's lineup again

poor guy, if he can’t be home with his kid let him play

by allikazoo on Aug 15, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

DeJesus LF
Maier CF
Butler 1B
Jacobs DH
Callaspo 2B
Teahen RF
Pena C
Gordon 3B
Betancourt SS

by NCDee on Aug 15, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi guys

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

oh cmon jackson

well, that snaps the scoreless streak

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

Watching gameday sucks. Anyone know where I can stream the game?

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Well frick

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

(missed the hr)

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

deepest part of the park

Is that about the deepest spot in baseball?

by 30% Stud - 70% Muffin on Aug 15, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably deeper in Safeco in Seattle

But yeah, that’s pretty much the suck.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap!

lions rallied and won on a last-second field goal! too bad it’s only preseason…

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

No!

Maybe that’s a good omen for the season.

by NCDee on Aug 15, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...

The Lions won something? Like a football game?

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's unpossible!

maybe they can win all four preseason games. That pretty much ensures a pretty successful season.

by 30% Stud - 70% Muffin on Aug 15, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surely to goodness

We can beat up on Hochevar. It would be nice to make a pitcher with a 5.38 ERA look bad for a change.

by NCDee on Aug 15, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

catcher

Is anyone beside me excited to see Avila vs. the Pop-up machine?

by 30% Stud - 70% Muffin on Aug 15, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Dunno

If we need the D, I’d like to see G-Money in as a defensive replacement.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

tied

but guillen caught…oh well. tied is good

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeez

Why did he try for the extra base? His wheels aren’t what they used to be.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

rod was saying

it was to make sure the run got in

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

tribe win

so if we win, MN will be 6 out

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

You guys are totally going to get hit by lightning

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, if we're going by the Avila = God meme...

… and we accept that I’m the resident prospect guru on BYB, then wouldn’t that mean I’m his prophet?

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Careful

Remember what happened to John the Baptist

by NCDee on Aug 15, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Used to the whole martyr thing

Patron saint is Stephen.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

poo.

at least he worked it

by allikazoo on Aug 15, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Trainers out?

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, but he hopped

and the next swing was awkward

by allikazoo on Aug 15, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez

Just what we need, a hobbled 3B…

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

santiago

good at baseball

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Me likey the homers

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

OT

does anyone know the name of that kid that’s been getting hype in the yanks farm system who pitches with both arms?

by allikazoo on Aug 15, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

haha, no

Switch pitcher.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pat Vendette?

Think that’s how you spell his last name. What about him?

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah! venditte

nothing, for some reason he just popped into my head and I couldn’t think of his name

by allikazoo on Aug 15, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wha?

I thought switch pitchers had gone extinct!

by kendra.michelle on Aug 15, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's pretty good

He’s got a dominant side that he profiles better at… I can get a scouting report if you want.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you're bored

I have to leave soon, though

by allikazoo on Aug 15, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda old

This report is pretty good stuff wise though.

His stuff isn’t particularly impressive, though his stats are and he offers amazing flexibility as a right/left pitcher- two arms means he can be used for more innings or multiple relief appearances in a row. Fascinating prospect.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't even have to do that...

He can switch arms every AB.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not entirely sure...

I think he’s at Hi A right now, but I don’t know if the Yanks are going to promote him aggressively with stocked bullpens at AA and AAA.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, ok

I didn’t know. guess we’ll see happens

by allikazoo on Aug 15, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm def rooting for him

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Think 21st rounder?

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I'm a bit surprised he slipped.

While a fringe prospect the opportunity to have a switch pitcher seems too intriguing to pass up.

by 13194013 on Aug 15, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yes

I am bored. Roommate/best friend are at band camp and I’m done unpacking.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

woo band camp

what do they play?

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pair of clarinets

Best friend’s the section leader and roommate’s… well just a clarinet I suppose.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

i have good clarinet friends. i’m the head bass drummer in our band.

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know nothing about marching band

Except that they leave every Saturday during football games (before telling me not to watch).

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh god

we’re not a marching band. we’re a scatter band. no tight formations and crazy cadences. we goof off. skits for halftime shows. an example: last year we did a guitar hero show where we had five people dress up like characters from the game and the band hid behind the bleachers and played. we started goofing up on “carry on my wayward son” and they had to use star power to get us playing well again.

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh jeez...

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta love it!

Lets go Polanco! Get Type A status so we get a draft pick for you!!!

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

Polly what the hell was that somersault?

by kendra.michelle on Aug 15, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

w000000000t!!!!

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Hello all-

I’m late but I’ve been watching and things seem to be well in hand so far.

by murrajo on Aug 15, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

so far

howdy as well

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Go see District 9

It’s a blast.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Alienz gotz weapons.

Dey lib in South Africa. We wantz der weaponz but dey say “No wai” And den dis one gaie startz mootating. We chase him.

by NCDee on Aug 15, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes please.

I’ve heard that it’s really good and not your normal summer movie, but not why.

by murrajo on Aug 15, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

Alien ship arrives over Johannesburg- full of starving alien refugees. 20 years later, they’re in a slum in the middle of the city, and a private corporation is trying to move them.

There’s a lot about racism and evil corporations, but the acting is really good, it’s intelligently written and you actually care about the main characters. Like, lots.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh.

Sounds cool, I might check it out. Thanks!

by kendra.michelle on Aug 15, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

all right, i'm in.

it has to be better than GI Joe right?

by murrajo on Aug 15, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't jinx it

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

kendra

Check yr fb msgs

by allikazoo on Aug 15, 2009 8:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

hello!

I sleepy and my nap ran over. But nice to see that we are winning!

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm getting there. :)

Late nights at the ballpark and needing to get up early today to drop off stuff led to a late afternoon nap.

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

very much so

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

but I thought hoes didn't have hair to shave?

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

They, uh, are thinking of different hoes

*ahem

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course they were :D

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good evening, all

Wasn’t quite ready to start typing at the computer after eating takeout Indian food.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 15, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

mmmmmm, Indian food

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

woo curtis

and polanco is up

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry about your issues :(

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

it happens

filed a police report, not expecting my grill back. girlfriend is doing better. she had a breakdown last night because she commented on how much i’m like her father, who passed away a few months ago.

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

A grill is such a bizzare thing to steal.

And I’m so sorry about your girlfriend. Both my parents are alive and still relatively healthy (knock wood), and I can’t even imagine dealing with not being able to talk with them whenever I want to.

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is the second grill that's been stolen in two years

and she’s in an odd situation. parents abandoned her, aunt and uncle raised her, dad came back into her life a few years ago, and she’s never talked to her mother. doesn’t help that she’s normally very emotional.

i can only sort of relate to that. steady parents, but my dad has been declared dead twice and had to be revived on the operating table due to some odd medical conditions he has.

phew…sorry. kinda deep for a tigers thread

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

losing parents is hard

I lost my Dad years ago and sometimes things hit me for no reason I can understand. It’s even harder for her I’m sure

by murrajo on Aug 15, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooooh

Nail in the coffin time now!

by NCDee on Aug 15, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Craptastic

Gameday crashed- what happened?

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Gameday back

Thanks guys!

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by David Tokarz on Aug 15, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

bases loaded with Tigers

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Clete

The shrubbery is calling…..

by NCDee on Aug 15, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

come on, Clete

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

a walk would be fine, too

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

but a K stinks :(

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

hee hee

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

the plus of taking a nap instead of sleeping late

Is that at least I was able to drop off a donation for charity, my recycling, some cute stuff for my niece and nephew, and go to the craft store and hardware store for stuff for a few new projects before it got really hot and I could hide in air-conditioning in the afternoon.

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Good!

I just always feel more productive when I get up earlier and then take a nap instead of sleeping late, although the latter tends to happen more frequently in my life.

by kendra.michelle on Aug 15, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

DITTO

It’s just too easy to hit the snooze and tell myself, “it’s Saturday, I have all day to get things done, so I can stay in bed a little longer” and then before you know it you get nothing done. I was determined not to let that happen today because it was going to be so hot this afternoon. :)

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I woke up a little earlier than usual this morning and just decided to go ahead and get up and feel less lazy by getting up earlier. Although the productive thing I really did today was go get my hair cut.

by kendra.michelle on Aug 15, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

strong and accurate

That’s how I like them.

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little Caesars is NOT the best value in America,

In fact, the best value in America is Edwin Jackson. All he cost was Matt Joyce, the baseball equivalency of a ham sandwich.

by Chuseph on Aug 15, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

is bologna better or worse than ham?

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by ahtrap on Aug 15, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

figured as much

so what exactly does that make E-Jax?

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by ahtrap on Aug 15, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Joyce was a ham sandwich

then what is Jackson?

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

now you're making me want ice cream

gotta run to a birthday party….kid’s parents better come through with the cold sweet stuff….

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by ahtrap on Aug 15, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gah

Now I want ice cream even more! Happy hunting!

by 13194013 on Aug 15, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm.....ice cream

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that's just cruel :)

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by ahtrap on Aug 15, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

Be right back – I’m going to visit my freezer for a second. :)

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by Baroque on Aug 15, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's going on with jackson?

did he forget how to pitch past the fourth?

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Jackson looked like Spiderman there

after he caught that throw from the outfield

by murrajo on Aug 15, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

ahahahahahaha

off the baseline

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by mrsunshine on Aug 15, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Cool!

sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good- right?

by murrajo on Aug 15, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions