BYOBYB: Off-Day Open Thread
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 17, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
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PrintWell, that only took 18 days. After 17 consecutive games, the Detroit Tigers finally get to rest. Winning three of the last four isn't a bad way to go into an off-day. (Of course, they could've made it four out of four, but nooooo.)
A day off means we can do some "BYOBYB," the open thread where you can chat about anything you'd like: What's on your mind about these Detroit Tigers? What about the rest of the AL Central or MLB, in general? Possible topics to bat around:
- Is there any sense in talking about Magglio Ordonez and his vesting option anymore? Have we reached the point of no return? He's coming back next year, right?
- Do the Tigers really need to pick up someone who can fill in for Brandon Inge at third base? Or can they live with Ryan Raburn playing over there once or twice a week?
- Can we stick a fork in the Minnesota Twins? Or are we just naturally inclined to worry about them, no matter what?
Are you really ready for some football? Did you win the action movie vs. chick flick battle at the movies this weekend? Too much watermelon isn't bad for you, is it? This is the place to chat about whatever's on your mind.
There could also be some news about draft picks signing today. I posted an open thread in the FanPosts for that, so it doesn't get lost among whatever else gets discussed here.
Okay, it's all yours, BYB Bunch.
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District 9: Stellar.
Mad Men S3 Premiere: Stellar.
Matt Stafford: Lookin’ good. Can’t wait for football season.
Madden 10: Might buy it soon. I’ve played the crap out of MLB 2K9.
Magglio: Yep, he’s staying. That’s fine, he gave us that walkoff HR in ‘06. $18M is nothing :)
Minnesota: Cautiously optimistic that they’re toast.
Mariners: You’re goin’ down.
mad men was pretty bitchin
I was so glad it lived up to all the hype and expectation, I spent all night re-watching the last 2 eps of last season before it came on!
Distrct 9
was awesome … it could potentially redefine sci-fi movies for years to come.
by tigerfaninChicago on Aug 17, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Blew Star Trek out of the water- smart plot, likeable characters, strong dialogue, solid acting, great visuals, stellar director and just all-around awesomeness.
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Ordonez...
If he can play like he is now all season next year, then I can’t complain (but I probably will).
He's still not performing at an 18mil/year clip, in my opinion
I love the guy but don’t want to see the option vest. Is it inevitable at this point? Will Illitch go Tonya Harding on a guy he probably loves?
Why don’t we just negotiate and pay him more than he can possibly earn on the open market (but still much less than 18 million)? I’m sure there is a way to keep the option from vesting in a way that will prevent him from getting it all back through a grievance. Mgmt just doesn’t have the balls to do it, apparently. But I guess if Mr. I wants to spend the money, let him spend the money. Our financial situation looks very shaky for next year, but hopefully Magglio’s gain won’t come at the expense of the team’s performance.
I'm down
with givig Don Kelly a shot as was mentioned on the Tiger Geist site. As long as the defense is competent he also brings a left handed bat with some discipline, which is lacking so much with this offense.
And I pray evurey night that Avila starts until some glaring problem with his game is exposed (sidenote he was throwing out over 40% of runners in AA … yah I know AA but its an indication that he is not horrbile). Once again leftty with good(great?) plate discipline. I mean seriously even when he makes outs the count is never less than 2-2, 3-2. Add to that he has drawn walks and hit for power.
Also, and I’m not down on Curtis, but a platoon would be nice the rest of the way. I also wonder if his significant drop in defense (according to UZR ratings) is not from playing everyday in the huge outfield of Comercia … maybe. Give him a few days off during the course of the year and maybe he gets a little extra jump in his step and covers more ground like he did in 06, 07.
I dunno the Sox aren’t so good either so I like our chances the rest of the way and they (the sox) have an 11 games road trip that goes to Boston, New York, Minnesota and one at Wrigley. Good luck to them …
Opinions about the posted topics
(1) I do not think there is any sese in talking about Magglio. We have reached the point
of no return, mainly because we cant sit him for long stretches and we NEED his offense now and will need it in the playoffs. I would make the following batting order consistent day in and day out against righties:
Grandy CF
Polanco 2B
Cabrera 1B
Guillen DH
Ordonez RF
Avila C
Inge 3B
Thomas LF
Everett SS
(2) I think they can live with Raburn playing at third once a week. I do not think they need to rest Inge more than that, especially since he is getting some new treatment that is working.
(3) I think the Twins will stick a fork in themselves and we do not need to worry. Their pitching is just not good enough to hang with the Tigers and White Sox. No ace, no race. I suspect that they will be out by 7-10 games in a few weeks. Signing Pavano hurts them
when they play against teams not names the Tigers or White Sox.
(4) I am not yet ready for football. However, here are some thoughts: I think that Stafford will start game 1. I think Stafford will throw at least 15 TDs and probably that many interceptions (if not more) over the course of the season. But that’s ok. Finally, I think the Lions’ defense will dictate whether they will win more than 4 games.
Has the Marcus Thames experiment
ended at 1st base? I’d prefer him at 1st over Guillen at the very least…
Also, Grandy’s newest blog is up, and it’s about “The Fight”. He is so darn diplomatic, he should run for office after baseball ends for him.
Some responses and additional things
1) Can’t wait for football season bc of Stafford? Man, ppl never give up with the Lions do they, we’re like Cubs fans, but way more pathetic
2) Magglio, I can’t stomach 18 mil. It’s just too much. There are adequate players (not very good ones mind you, but adequate) that would be of nearly equal value to them the rest of the way. Wilkin Ramirez, Clete Thomas, Don Kelly, Marcus Thames, an amalgamation of them, etc. We could do so much more with that 18 mil next season it’s not worth it for that playoff run. Plus, we could still play him as much as we wanted in the playoffs. How do we get around it, how bout sending him to the DL for 3 weeks with anxiety disorder?
3) Sure Everett was on base three times yesterday, and I am by no means a “grass is always greener” outlook type-guy, but I think maybe it’s time to look at Santiago as the primary member of that platoon. Everett’s defense is not significantly better than Santiago’s, or awesome in general, to warrant his last-among-SS-in-the-AL OBP.
4) No 3B is necessary, Raburn isn’t the long-term answer, but he’s fine as a stop gap. Yesterday’s game frustrated my to no end, but Raburn’s errors were a freak occurrence, he hasn’t shown himself to be that bad over the course of the season.
5) Nate Bump is basically a washed-up 33 year old. But he is DOMINATING AAA right now. Killing it. I think he is definitely a better answer than Bonine as a long-middle/spot guy. I’d like to see Bump at some point this year, and ride his Renaissance this year down the stretch for some valuable innings.
6) People are really looking down upon Gerald Laird. I’m a huge Avila fan, but Laird is the primary this year no doubt. He’s been great defensively as well as calling games.
7) Heading down tomorrow. Is there really any opposing pitcher in the AL you’d rather see right now than King Felix?
one difference from Cubs fans
Lions fans are under no delusion that this, or any year could be THE year.
Actually, another difference: we’re not bandwagon fans. A third difference, we don’t follow a team that is popular for no other reason than….well….why the hell are the cubs popular, anyway?
So in short, Lions fans are nothing like Cubs fans.
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I wouldn't say Cubs fans are bandwagon
They sell out no matter what.
More accurately they could be called delusional, stupid, and laden with poor priorities (getting wasted at Wrigley over cheering for their team’s success), but bandwagon, not really.
I guess I'm saying bandwagon from the popular sense
There are a lot of Cubs fans who are fans because they’re the “it” team to be fans of; what you said about the misplaced priorities, it just feels like there’s more of that at Wrigley than at other stadiums, there seems to a class of Cub fans that consists of not really baseball fans at all, but they’re wearing the red, and blue because it’s the popular thing to do.
As with any fanbase, there are plenty of diehards, knowledgeable about baseball and realistically cognizant of what their team’s chances really are, but I’ve known enough of the other type, and otherwise seen enough of them on TV and heard ’em on the radio where the real fans seem to get overshadowed by the caricatures.
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To add to that 18 mil comment
This is what the Tigers are looking at this offseason, and why they need that Ordonez money:
UFAs (in order of projected value on the market):
Polanco
Rodney
Lyon
Laird
Santiago
Everett
RFA/Arb.:
Verlander
Jackson
Seay
Zumaya
Thames
Miner
That’s a shit ton of talent, much of which they could get a break on in the RFA category by locking them down for more money now in exchange for less later. Let’s hope they have the funds to do it.
"Send Ordonez to the DL for 3 weeks"
You have to realize that if even Ordonez does not get enough at bats, he will take his case to court and try to prove that the Tigers sat him on purpose. A few month ago, he was playing poorly and he would not win such a case. But now, he would certainly win because he is hitting well…in fact, he is the Tigers best hitter right now after Cabby (not counting Avila’s limited at bats). So, forget Ordonez. He is playing and will do so next year. I think he is not worth 18 mil, but at the same time, he has EARNED his money (unlike many other tigers).
I realize that
The DL stint was a joke. But even an intentional benching will end up resulting in an undisclosed settlement, somewhere in the middle of the 18 mil and the 3 mil buyout. I would take that at this point. Ordonez is not going to get his clause reinstated with an intentional benching.
am I an asshole for feeling relieved
that d-train was scratched from his start at Toledo?
http://blog.mlive.com/cutoffman/2009/08/dontrelle_willis_scratched_fro.html
That made my day!
No reason to feel like an asshole, he didn’t have something horrible happen to him and this makes it less likely that he’ll return any time soon.
by tigerfaninChicago on Aug 17, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
says he's strating wed. so i don't see this as a big deal...
by Tigersin2010 on Aug 17, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
everyday he gets pushed back is a good day
although in the grand scheme of things you are right that it’s not that big of a deal.
by tigerfaninChicago on Aug 17, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
UFAs and RFAs
Not a problem!
Polanco → Sizemore
Rodney → Perry
Lyon → Sign someone cheaper or some good arms in AA/AAA
Laird → Avila
Santiago → Sign for cheap if need be
Everett → Sign for cheap if need be
RFA/Arb.:
Verlander → Give the $$$
Jackson → Give the SSS
Seay → Sign for cheap or goodbye and thanks
Zumaya → Sign for cheap or goodbye and thanks
Thames → Sign for cheap or goodbye and thanks
Miner → Sign for cheap or goodbye and thanks
In sum, we only need to give major $$$ to Verlander and Jackson
I mostly agree . . .
I think signing Seay and Lyon would be important though.
Santiago is a good fit for us as a utilitiy middle IF.
The point is more what 18 mil could get us beyond these guys, or as non-internal replacements. The answer is: more production from a corner OF than Magglio can likely bring us next year.
Mostly agree
I think it’s more likely Everett comes back than Santiago. I was also thinking that we had a few candiates to replace them in our system. I know Iorg isn’t ready but what is the status of the other SS in our system.
I also want Lyon and Seay back. Zumaya, Thames and Miner can all go. I do like Miner but Robertson and Willis are over-paid and can fill the same role if healthy.
by tigerfaninChicago on Aug 17, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
um....
i have a feeling unless polanco is really out for money, he stays with the tigers. yeah we have a decent second basemen in the minors in sizemore, but polanco is just so dang good defensively…
wouldn’t mind seeing rodney go, even though he’s been sensational this season in saves. and i don’t think perry is ready to be the closer, yet. another year perhaps.
we should keep lyon. he’s been a dang good investment
if we can, keep laird as possibly the backup. his bat stinks, but we stuck with vance wilson for years didn’t we? and laird’s defense is far superior to vance’s.
shortstop is a troublesome area. i’d like to see everett gone (just like renteria last year) but santiago should stay just for his versatility at playing infield.
for the RFA folks:
keep verlander
keep jackson
keep seay. he’s proven himself, even if he’s struggled his last few outings
nuke zumaya
i have no opinion on thames
and keep miner. he’s a good improv starter.
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My thoughts
(1) Mad Men premier was disappointing. Sorry, I love the show but this was a snoozer.
(2) I think the absolute number one priority for the offseason is finding a true leadoff/spark plug guy. We need a crazy energy guy ala Swisher or Scotty Pods.
Not a bad idea Flying J
And make it a LF.
This will allow us to move Grandy to the 3rd spot, where he belongs.
by Tigersin2010 on Aug 17, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to say Clete doesn't deserve to be in the majors . . .
But I think his ceiling is as a reserve OF.
I disagree.
His arm is well above average and so is his defense. He is patient. He is left handed and can hit LHP.
He has good power to the pull field and loves to go the other way. He has average to above average
speed. One knock: his swing is too big. That can be fixed.
by Tigersin2010 on Aug 17, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1626
Sure this could be a bluff, but I think they’re not kidding. Interesting maneuver by the Rays, who paid overslot for every guy in rounds 3-6 but won’t budge here
I can live with Raburn from time to time – he isn’t generally an error factory, and usually is adequate defensively.
Magglio is likely staying unless something catastrophic happens to prevent his option vesting, but it’s Illitch’s money, not mine, so I can’t bring myself to worry about it that much.
And why do they always call them “chick flicks” if this is one woman who would much prefer a good adventure or science fiction story than a romantic comedy (which often isn’t very romantic or particularly funny)? Just because we share genders doesn’t mean we share interests, movie industry.
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Trade Reflections...
An update on all the pitching we’ve traded away since 2006 and how it compares to what we have received in return…
nice article
i was sad when we traded jurrgens away. i thought he was a high-quality pitcher. turns out he is, but his record is bad because of who he plays for now.
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Another topic: September call-ups
I’d like to see Ryan, Kelly, Larish, Simons, and Bump.
Ryan — 3rd catcher, standard.
Kelly & Larish: 3B options, already been with club, both get a look at the last playoff roster spot
Simons: Most MLB ready of the fleet of relievers they have coming through the pipeline
Bump: See above, well-seasoned vet, well earned shot at emergency starter and long middle
didn't Larish do some 1B earlier this season
I don’t remember him having issues with it, though correct me if I’m wrong. that’d be good as well, in case anything happens to Miggy.. since Guillen and Thames aren’t the greatest.
<3 For me,
All Maggs has to do is show up…and I’m happy. No need to talk about the vesting.
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howdy there
seems like it’s been awhile. maybe it hasn’t. today is one of those crazy got-nothing-to-do days
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Yeah. I haven't gotten to talk to any of you fine folks in a while. And I miss all of you.
One pc in my house. So sometimes, I don’t get the luxery of being able to blog and watch baseball. My son needs to be able to occupy his time too. So if given the choice of the pc or the tv with cable, knowing how much I love our boys, which would you choose if you were me?
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oh i understand
i’m lucky enough that my tv is a few feet away from my computer. it’ll be different though in a few weeks. school is starting back up and i won’t have nearly as much free time.
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I've said and will continue to say
that it’s inevitable Ordonez will stay. Somehow, someway he will get his ABs. He’s hitting like .355 this month. Just keep him. We always talk about athletes being loyal to organizations and how they shoudln’t leave for more money from teams like the Yankees….seems like a double standard here.
Inge and Raburn for the rest of August will be fine at 3rd.
I think the Twins will stil be hanging around a month from now. Their hitting is too good. The division is to weak.
i'm actually thinking about this scenario
cleveland stays hot and eventually the twins are in fourth place in the central. they’re getting close to them actually. personally, i think they’re out of the race and that it’s between us and chicago.
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yeah, but it's only around 44 games right?
i just don’t see the twins getting hot with the way their pitching has deteriorated as of late.
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I have to agree with Tag
I wouldn’t count out he Twins just yet. They’re like rabid dogs.
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Nope
Huff is hitting .253 with 12 HRs and 72 RBIs…more than Miguel.
by Detroit4lyfe on Aug 17, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Move
I like this trade a lot. Huff has struggled this year, but he still can put up good numbers and gives us a sorely needed bat. Saw Jacobson pitch a few times this year, not overly impressed. He threw hard, but was a real “high-effort” type of guy that I could see flaming out early. This seems a pretty low-risk move.
Huff is a great addition
He immediately becomes our team’s RBI leader, but the most important stat that we as Tigers fans should be looking at is his BA with RISP – .324 this season.
.253 batting average, eh?
Doesn’t that put him squarely in the middle of the Tigers regulars’ BAs?
After the 0-16 with RISP performance yesterday, anything resembling a 1-3 performance will be most welcome in the lineup. Especially if it includes taking MR. two-seperate-errors-directly-leading-to-the-Royals-winning-the-game-Raburn out of the lineup for a day or two.
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Aubrey Huff is our second best hitter, basically
Aubrey Huff has an OPS of 725 this year, the lowest of his career. He’s 32, so i suppose we could be trading for another Magglio Ordonez, but the greater fluctuations in his career numbers from year to year suggest not. He’s far more of a streaky hitter than Mags ever was, let’s hope he can find his streak.
His career year was last year, and he hasn’t been on a multi-year decline like Mags. His career OPS is .818, which would be fairly definitively the second best on the team right now.
Here's the story from the Baltimore Sun
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bal-aubrey-huff-traded-817,0,6862054.story
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that would actually make sense
but the question is, what can huff play? we have a darn good first baseman already. what are we going to use him as, the shortstop?
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ok
then that makes this whole deal make a lot more sense. give inge a break to heal and don’t lose too much in bat or defense. and i bet huff will be motivated, since he’ll be playing on a team that is actually in the running to make the playoffs.
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that's my guess
I know Clete’s not going any where. (most likely)
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Huff will play almmost every day
At 3rd 1st or DH.
Either Raburn is getting DFA;d, Thomas is getting demoted, or Inge is being sent to the DL.
For your enjoyment
Our favorite Aubrey Huff picture. Hope he does well for you all.
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Any chance...
…Huff will platoon with Mags in left and Inge at 3b? That would give the Tigers a little more breathing room on Mag’s incentive laden contract. I don’t see him taking much time, if any away from Miggy at 1b?
interesting move with huff...
Either inge dl or clete back to minors for two weeks. Probably inge going bye bye for 15 days. I like the move, though. Huff is a pro.
by rook34 on Aug 17, 2009 4:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
maybe he couldn't find where Leyland hid his smokes to blackmail him
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That would be hilarious
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
WE GOT HUFF!!!
I am beyond excited. We needed another big bat. Well, we got him. 72 RBI’s looks mighty tasty at the moment. :D
Dombrowski said he can play in the outfield and third base,
so I think we’ll see him there solely against RHP. Huff’s splits against LHP aren’t very good.
Hola
Been concentrating on computer games a little TOO much, I guess. I only found out about the Aubrey Huff trade about 15 minutes ago! My question is, who gets the heave-ho? I’d prefer the Tigers not do something that can’t be reversed. You could send Raburn or Clete down to the minors and bring him back up in two weeks. I’d prefer it’d be Raburn (Santiago could play third base on days that Inge does not). Hopefully this doesn’t mean Inge is going on the DL or Marcus Thames is going away.
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well that was exciting for like an hour.
now I still have another hour before I can go home, let’s go roster moves!
Jacobson
Power righty, known for control. K numbers not too impressive (he’s King less than 1 hitter per inning) but K-BB rates are good. He’s probably going to top out as a setup guy or middle reliever. We have those in spades, however.
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Would have posted that sooner...
..but WFU has decided that now is a great time to do maintenance on the internet connection.
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well DD seems to just draft pitchers in droves.
Not a bad idea though since pitching is a scarce commodity in MLB.
Yeah
But we drafted like a billion relievers last year. We’ll be ok.
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I have no doubt about the health of the minor league pitching situation
So losing another one doesn’t weight heavily on my thoughts for the next few years. I was just saying DD likes to draft pitchers.
That he does
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Had to think about the "King less" phrase for a second
like, are you trying to compare him to Felix Hernandez, or maybe LeBron James?
I get it now
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Yeah...
Apostrophe’s are your friend…
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
At first I thought I was drunk
But apparently we did get Huff. I love this move. Let’s like RR his unconditional release now.
Raburn's time is up
Though he’s had clutch hits this year, he’s cost the Tigers on D and hasn’t been very consistent at the plate. Time to send him down or let him go, either way, the experiment is over.
He was good
But, yeah, I’d rather have Robles.
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The name sounds familiar...
…but that’s it. I couldn’t have told you anything else about him.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
A 2 birds with one stone solution
Would be to release Magglio to clear a spot for Huff.
by ThaWalrus9 on Aug 17, 2009 5:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not now
Maggs is finally hitting- can you say grievance?
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Magglio is showing signs of life.
If those signs of life gets us into the playoffs and helps us in a run to the World Series, 18 million is not too heavy a price to pay.
Winning a world series is at the forefront of what the Tigers should be worried about.
+1
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Huff to keep Maggs from PA Threshold?
If Raburn is the one going, could we see a Huff/Granderson/Clete outfield against righties, with Guillen at DH to limit Maggs’ Plate Appearances? They couldn’t really afford to sit him because the alternative options were so bad, but with Huff in the lineup, you can keep that option from vesting.
well, food is calling
i’ll be back, hopefully to hear what roster move we make so that huff can join us.
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I bet Clete
Raburn’s very versatile and I don’t know if DD and Leyland want to sacrifice that.
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Bonine back to AAA? With Galarraga pitching well, and Minor doing ok, maybe have a shorter BP?
I'd like that
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
But I agree, it's probably Clete
Huff is a left handed bat to bat third or fourth.
So it’ll be Clete
On draft signing-
There’s a commenter on the open thread at Minor League Ball who says that Turner is a done deal at 6.7 Million and Oliver at 1 Million. He cites Gammons, so this is believable. Still want to see a Fields signing.
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Great news.
I’m still hoping for Fields too. From the little I saw on him, he was impressive. If the Oliver figure is true, it seems to be a “good deal” compared to what some other teams are giving to 4th-plus round draft picks.
by StringTheory on Aug 17, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd kill for Fields
Or at least seriously contemplate it… he’s first or second round talent.
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Monday. I think I'll go online like I've done every day since 1993 and say the Tigers need a power-hitting left....what? Rly?
What’s next, the Red Wings signing a power forward?
Aubrey Huff v. AL Central Opponents
Misopogon likey. He seems to do much better against finesse pitchers than power pitchers, and he has a knack for picking on young pitchers, which the AL Central has aplenty.
What's with the Pedroia fascination?
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Tag's favorite player (a mancrush, if you will). :)
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Understandable
But why Pedroia?
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
roster moves won't include maggs
kind of duh, but passing along
http://beck.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/08/follow-up_on_huff_trade.html
I knew that already
only because I heard it on the radio…
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they won't let me in there any more
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by Detroitchik on Aug 18, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
So..
He is going to give everyone a dirt mustache, or is that solely reserved for Inge?
I'll keep an eye on it
I’m more likely to watch the Minnesota-Texas game, simply because I like Josh Lewen a lot better than Hawk Harrelson (or whoever it is that does Kansas City games…sorry, don’t know the name).
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I was looking at their lineup for today.
Apparently Rios is taking some ABs away from Thome, which is confusing. Thome has good numbers against Bannister.
by StringTheory on Aug 17, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Clearly I’m not too original with my subject lines.
by StringTheory on Aug 17, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I was looking at the Angels' lineup today.
And imagining it with Hunter and Napoli. Unbelievable. It looks like a 1,000 run offense.
Thank God we only have to play them 3 more times.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It's almost like the Rangers and Angels traded places.
The Angels’ offense is incredible but their pitching is awful. The Rangers have gotten good pitching but their offense hasn’t been particularly intimidating. Usually it’s the other way around.
Very strange.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, interesting.
We are good against both teams. We’re good against the AL WEST in general. Hopefully that continues in the next few weeks…
by Tigersin2010 on Aug 17, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Just going off memory alone, I’d say were only good against Texas. The Angels always seem to dominate us.
by StringTheory on Aug 17, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, earlier this year...
The Tigers lost 2 of 3 in Anaheim, then won 2 of 3 at Comerica Park (and could’ve swept had the offense been a bit better in the first game). Unfortunately, the last series is in Anaheim and the Tigers do NOT play well there. Their pitching and defense both seem to implode (Offense tends to sometimes be spotty, but they CAN score runs there).
Strange things happen on the west coast.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I still vividly remember getting shelled in LA
after the 2007 all-star break. That series, and the seasonal disaster that ensued, is always on the forefront of my mind when we play them there. Blah.
by StringTheory on Aug 17, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that too
That was probably the worst three-game stretch, pitching-wise, in the last five years.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we always score a ton in Anaheim...
and that’s a good sign. Grandy and Magglio always play EXCELLENT ball there.
I think that if our pitching is decent there, we’ll have no problem
by Tigersin2010 on Aug 17, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we've as good a shot as any...
If the rotation stays as-is, it WOULD be Verlander, Washburn, and Jackson, I believe.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it raining in Chicago?
The KC-CWS game says “Delayed start”
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Any updates on draf signings? Did we sign Fields?
We need another SS in the minors…Iorg is no sure bet
"Iorg is no sure bet"
Understatement of the century.
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
Wonder why the Rangers did not call up Max Ramirez to take Jarrod Saltalamacchia’s place.
And Tom Grieve is predicting a Gold Glove for Michael Young at third base. Hopefully, Brandon Inge has something to say about that.
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Ramirez has been suffering this year
This is a bit old, but still pretty good Plate discipline’s funky, and I’m remembering him being injured earlier this year, but that could be something I’m making up..
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay
Just wondering. The last time I saw him was the WBC, so my assessment of him is admittedly out of date.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
They JUST answered my question...
Max Ramirez just came off the Triple A DL.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
1-0 Minny
Joe Mauer goes opposite field (Like he’d go anywhere else)
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Lets go Rangers!
Make this a Red Sox/Yankees free October!!!
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If for nothing else but the fact that we can actually BEAT the Rangers on a regular basis!
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't jinx it.
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by David Tokarz on Aug 17, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Liriano loaded the bases with no one out
Andruw Jones just popped up for the first out.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
They just mentioned that Saltalamacchia may have the same problem as Bonderman
Thoracic Outlet Compression Syndrome
By the way, it’s now 3-2 Texas
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Well, Liriano continues to suck against everyone except Detroit
5-2 Texas
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1 decent game, however many poor outings thereafter for the twins?
I’ll take it! Better by far than the other way around, if we would have got one night of satisfaction, against feeling like the Twins would win every time he went to the mound, the way he seemed his rookie year.
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Twice
Once at Comerica Park, once at the Metrodome
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 17, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
oh...my bad
don’t remember the comerica start.
i rememebr the metrodome start, when Magglio hit a bomb of Liriano late in the game
(though we still lost)
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