Game 103: Tigers at Indians
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 2, 2009 12:25 PM EDT
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PrintDetroit Tigers at Cleveland Indians, Aug 2, 2009 1:05 PM EDT
Armando Galarraga (5-9, 4.84) vs. 
Carl Pavano (8-8, 5.66), 1:05 p.m. EST
After getting a crucial win last night that kept them in first place, can the Tigers earn a series win today against the Indians? And can they do it against a pitcher that has looked brilliant against them this season? Oh, and how about doing it without going to extra innings?
Has the clock finally struck midnight on Carl Pavano? In his last two starts, he's allowed 13 runs and 17 hits in 10.2 innings. Pavano has also served up eight - eight! - home runs in those two games. It's kind of difficult to imagine the Tigers' lineup doing that to him, however. Especially with how he's pitched in his two outings against them. Pavano has a 2-0 record and 2.35 ERA versus the Tigers this season. Both of those games were at Comerica Park.
Armando Galarraga is winless in his past four starts (no Christmas in July for him). And he's fallen into sort of a good start/bad start pattern over those four games. Considering he gave up four runs in his last appearance, that would seem to put him in line for a good game today. The last time he faced Cleveland, however, the Tribe touched him up for four runs and nine hits in six innings. On the road this season, Galarraga has a 2-5 record and 5.23 ERA.
Both the Tigers and Indians are in need of long outings from their starting pitchers, after playing 25 innings of baseball over the past two nights. Each team's bullpen is likely pretty tapped out. Jim Leyland said after last night's game that Brandon Lyon still won't be available after pitching three innings on Friday. My guess is Fernando Rodney won't see any action, either. But Zach Miner, Bobby Seay, and Ryan Perry have all pitched the last two nights, as well.
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Starting Lineups
TIGERS
1. Curtis Granderson CF
2. Ramon Santiago 2B
3. Clete Thomas RF
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Carlos Guillen DH
6. Ryan Raburn LF
7. Brandon Inge 3B
8. Gerald Laird C
9. Adam Everett SS
INDIANS
1. Grady Sizemore CF
2. Asdrubal Cabrera SS
3. Shin-Soo Choo RF
4. Jhonny Peralta 3B
5. Travis Hafner DH
6. Luis Valbuena 2B
7. Andy Marte 1B
8. Trevor Crowe LF
9. Kelly Shoppach C
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 2, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions
Victor Martinez catches Clay Buchholz today. That has to feel great for an Indians fan.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 2, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
I’m going to be optimistic and take the over today.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 2, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
under if nine innings
Over if 14 innings or more.
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I'll take the over.
Bats seem to wake up in the last game of a series, and it IS Carl Pavano. Let’s just not make him look like Warren Spahn out there.
also, Tag
Glad to see you with us after your date got you drunk and took advantage when you were vulnerable.
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At least he's not sitting by the phone
“Oh please ring!”]
“Oh please ring!”
“Oh please ring!”
“Oh please ring!”
“Oh please ring!”
when I was an eight year old girl
I think my backpack had dinosaurs on it. Or it was the most electric royal blue I could find.
Never been a pink person.
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When I was a little girl
I don’t recall backpacks, but i do recall lunch boxes being made of aluminum
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are you going to be okay for Monday?
I mean, she is taking off work for you and all. You don’t want to be sick on Tuesday, too.
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I don't even have the tickets confirmed yet
somehow I think i’m going to end up screwed on this one
I’ve e-mailed the guy twice already.
When I was in school we didn't have backpacks
We had bookbags with plastic straps that broke after a month and your mother repaired it with an old belt of your father’s.
And we LIKED it!
yeah it was hard to walk 10 miles up hill in the snow too.
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especially when the snow fell in June
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here, yes
North Carolina, not so usual. :)
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Well I grew up in Wyandotte
Where we had White Easters, so I’m very familiar with snow. The year I graduated from UM it snowed on May 3.
I like off-season snow
It freaks out the non-locals. :)
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when I was in high school
I had a duffle bag that my mom made for me. She also made ones for my brothers and sisters in our choice of colors. Lasted longer than any of the store-bought ones my classmates had.
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Two of the candidates for "Webgem of the Week"
were against the Tigers. Vizquel and Sizemore. Bleccch.
hate me if you must
but as I said before, I really like Vizquel
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Rod and Mario wearing the Sunday Red Shirts just like Tigers Woods
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BEFORE WE GET ENGROSSED IN TIGER BASEBALL
Allikazoo and YakAttack and I were talking last night and decided that once the schedule comes out for 2010, we have to pick a date and everyone go to a game together so we can meet in real non-internet life. Maybe a Friday night so if someone is coming in from out of town and has to crash in a hotel for a night they only have to take one day off work, and they can throw it in with a weekend visit to family if they have some in the area.
A Red Wings blog I comment on far too much for what remains of my sanity did that this past season, and it was a blast.
Next season will give everyone plenty of time to plan for it, since the season is running low. So don’t forget!
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people
please be advised, if I ever came within touching distance, I would probably pass out.
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Yak suggested forwarding links to threads to prove our devotion
Like the all-star voting / carpal tunnel threads. :)
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we need posters, too
Like a blow-up of the Rodneycoaster for the ninth inning. :)
And nametags since we only know each other by screen names.
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Give me a weekend game and enough warning
And I would do my best to be there. I know right now the last week in June -first week in July is beach time for me next year.
that's why we figured next season
Also, Wepri just relocated and Tag is looking for a job, so they might both be established enough to take in a game next season. It’s not as much fun of a lot of people can’t make it.
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i'll try
just hard for me to get downstate in the summer, especially since i’ll have classes next summer. but i wouldn’t mind FINALLY getting to go to a tiger’s game. and with cool people too.
hopefully we can accomodate as many people as possible
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will we need a restraining order for you, too?
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Please remind me to thank Yak
for the lovely name tag that was made for me in advance
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yeah, i read thru
I’m glad everyone is down for the cause
I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet
those sexy glasses make the uniforms better
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only here for a few minutes
I will e-mail the tigers this afternoon, unexpected plans… the not fun kind
I'm so ahead of my time, my parents haven't met yet
:o( sorry
we will miss you today. I hope things go well
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unhappy for you :(
Hope things improve soon.
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Stupid fans
in Cleveland. They better hold him at 3rd.
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"yes I did"
“I saw you pull the douchiest move of the season, you idiot!”
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if I'd worn my shirt
It might have been a better result. :)
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ummmmmm.....
I was at home and the drapes were closed!!!!
(I was hot and doing laundry.)
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on the internet
No one knows if you are typing naked. :)
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Pants?
I had the entire house to myself this week up until yesterday.
Pants were no longer a neccessity.
heh
when i moved into my house at college, i randomly felt the urge to streak from basement to the top. five story house.
the team unloaded everyone else
Too bad they didn’t jettison him and Grady Sizemore.
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oh, I'd like him on the Tigers
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your ranking?
Sizemore, Porcello, Jackson, Granderson … who ya got?
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I was including the Tigers plus the hypothetical new Tiger Grady
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hmmm
in order of cuteness throughout the AL
porcello, sizemore, greinke, perry, mauer, jackson….. and binge just because he’s binge.
I have a crush on donnie kelly too but he’s obvs not around right now
I think the eight you listed is enough. :)
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there's only one for me
however i do find several on other teams man pretty as well.
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most are latin
Like me some Scutaro, Adore Biggy (although he’s far too young) Abreu, Juan Rivera, Carlos Quentin and others
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Pujols is totally not my type
He does nothing for me. Although I did laugh my ass off at those comments Larussa made a few years ago – about how if he (Larussa) was a woman, he’d be on Pujols so fast it would make his head spin.
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I like 'em thick
thick thighs and so forth….
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it's funny
How what is physically attractive in men can be so different between women. Guys seem to be more in agreement about what they like in women sometimes.
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+1
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what if he didn't speak Spanish
but had a sexy Spanish accent? Like the actor who played Zorro in the movie?
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antonio banderas?
Well I would hope if he has the accent, there would be some Spanish involved…. but yeah, the accent is what weakens the knees.
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I like Verlander a lot
But my big crushes are hockey players.
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I love that movie
even though it only has like 2.0 stars
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that sounds vaguely dirty
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Hey everybody--enjoy the game
I’m watching later on tape delay
Yak—I’m going to the Sliders’ game—riding my bike!
http://old-english-d.blogspot.com
have a great time!!!
and be careful on your bike
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sadly don't have one, my son always reminds me when I make him wear his
must remedy that
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I gotta hit a Sliders game this month.
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 2, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS
Detroit baseball team changing their name – will now officially be the “Detroit Heartless Bastards.”
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Dammit, Grady
Why don’t you inflict that beautiful defensive play on someone else?
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which?
I missed it.
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thanks
we have tickets to next sunday’s game and I’m trying to figure out who the probable pitcher is
that's makes 2 times Jimmy has argued.
will he be ejected today???? I predict yes, if he keeps it up
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Waking up to baseball...is an odd feeling
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the noob vet
could take lessons from the kid
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eye drops?
Or maybe he saw Dr. Rahmani.
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hope armando is following the Porcello plan
give up a run in the first, shut things down the rest of the way
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as long as he alters the plan slightly
And locks Rodney in the closet before the ninth inning.
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the power of the Rod jinx
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don't we have a way
of making shit pitchers look like Cy Young winners?
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Oh, and looking at the recap thread
remind me never to tell you ladies about any romantic endeavors :)
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HA!
we are here to help, that’s all. Really.
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Just got home to my Lazy Boy....ah sweet chair that I love.
AND, sweet internet that works! 10 days may have been a little long.
Now, can we get some runs….please?
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
now you need a sweet beverage and you are all set
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you are asking for a bit much
re: the latter
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Libation already open.....
and ya, I know about the whole squandering situation.
Has anybody seen “Skyline Seats”…. I think that was his/her handle on here? He/she had told me about Shorts brewery and their Hupa Lupa Licious IPA. I have stock piled the shit every time I go to Grand Rapids now…and it is GOOD. (so thanks, if you are out there!)
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
I got the Aflak Question right
for once. yay me.
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ooooooh pretty
thanks! I will put it in my trophy case. :o)
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I may try to check it out.
After the race last night (which was kick ass awesome), I am still in the mood. The Indy Cars were side by side all night. I think Briscoe won by 8 thousands of a second or something. Good Stuff, and I still had time to watch the Tigers win afterwards. Good night, it was.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
rally is the only racing I actually watch
and most of the time it’s spent off in the woods, so I love the xgames version of it.
Flying Subarus! Gottta love it!
by Kurt Mensching on Aug 2, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm reading a book
Sandstorm by James Rollins. great adventure stuff.
also, that double sucks hairy donkey nuts
I'm a rollins fan
good stuff.
If you see anything by Brett Battles, check him out. His Jonathan Quinn series starts with “The Cleaner” and the whole series is among the best in the genre
by Kurt Mensching on Aug 2, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
hush, Rod
If Marte gets a double down the line now, it’s your fault.
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it was inevitable
“He is capable of getting a strikeout here”
“Marte is only hitting 0.200”
“Armando has been dominant against right handers”
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FIHTGHIOWTR)&$@&_@@_() )(N B)(B(){ %%! & !} %!&% !!!!
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Armando would be alright if we weren't making Pavano look like Cy Young.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
and if he didn't give up a homer to Grady Sizemore, too
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as true as the feeling is
it is the line up that makes him look like Cy Young.
Armando makes the Indians all look like Ichiro and Babe Ruty
6 runs insurmountable?
Good chance we can’t touch that.
"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"
well...
Let’s go yankees.a lost sunday in cleveland. Ouch.
by rook34 on Aug 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Man, that got worse every time I glanced at the screen
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what are the odds
The Tigers go down 1-2-3 on less than 12 pitches and don’t even give Armando a break?
I’m guessing 80%.
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how about a 1-2-g$ HR-3, and still 12 pitches
it could happen
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We should have known....
….we wouldnt get any early runs and take pressure off of Galaraga becasue pavanos ERA is almost 6!!!!!……patheric Offense!!!!
well from what the scoreboard says
looks to me like the defense was pathetic in that inning too.
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WTF
I step away for 5 minutes and come back to a massacre… Unfreakinbelievable. I AM LIVID
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Why?
We arent going to score anyway so we would have lost 1 – 0 anyway
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet we score something, bennie
no shutout…. wait and see
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we are down six...
Not even reverse psychology can help now.
by rook34 on Aug 2, 2009 2:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the worst first place team ever
and whoever this guy saying "you guys make me sick. sorry ass tiger fans. so much hatred. where is the optimism??? " hard to be optimistic when your opponent is hitting it all over the park…your down by a touchdown and about to lose 2 of 3 to one of the worst teams in the league…what do you expect?
But al least they missed the extra point
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
so two field goals and it's a tie game!
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don't let other commenters get you upset
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we arent the worst first place team ever
We haven’t won anything yet. The worst division champion of recent vintage was the cardinals in 06. And we all know how that turned out. We are playing a stinker on the road. Not exactly a shock.
by rook34 on Aug 2, 2009 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
rally Jack Daniels
even if it doesn;t work, we’ll be too drunk to care
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poll question
I say Bobby Seay. Solid as a rock most times.
Rodney makes me too nervous to get my vote.
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his record is impressive
But he scares me.
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I just love that picture so much
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that looks delicious
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you know, a month ago, I'd be all, all right, Curtis has this
After the last couple of weeks, strikeouts and popups all over the place with with two outs and RISP….I don’t expect much here
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adam everette
sucks….brought in for defense and he has been terrible at short…I would rather see mr 4 for his last 31 at-bats Ramon Santiago at short everyday..at least he has speed..and useually a decent bat
Spelt his name wrong.....
…Everet has been great at short….half the balls he gets Renteria wouldnt have even had last year man.
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you spelled his name wrong too, bennie
Everett
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ummm, Bennie, 'ol buddy?
try Everett
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Gota love the tigers....
….all started becase Jim put that hit and run on and larid had to swing at ball 3…..dumb
Our mid-season
bat acquisition is supposed to be helping….
Re: Carlos, you know the one they said hasn’t looked comfortable all series long…. but I have faith
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not today
or yesterday, but I have faith. DD says it’s gonna be ok
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grandy was strong against the sox and rangers...
But has been awful in this series offensively
by rook34 on Aug 2, 2009 2:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well ...
At least it was more than 12 pitches, so Armando got a little bit of a rest.
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speaking of Brandon Lyon
I am slowly developing a man crush…after wanting him to be sent to Lakeland at the begging of the year…or traded for a bag of baseballs and a single A player to be named later
Here we go again.
BP for the Indians.
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Aug 2, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
Here's something positive:
NYY 3, CWS 0
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Aug 2, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
ok heres positive.....
FOURTH time through the line-up for the Tigers…well shit who cares…
how about a warehouse full of rally SIDES OF BEEF
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you mean along these lines?
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one really crappy inning
And he’s been alright the rest of the time.
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craptastically crappy
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I think a sure-fire way to get the Tigers out is to let
one of the Tigers hitters get into scoring position. Then the next three hitters will K, pop out, and ground out weakly (or some combination thereof).
Btw, when was the last Tigers XBH? Guillen’s homer on Friday?
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Aug 2, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions
all singles yesterday
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with rally Creole seasoning!
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maybe you should be posting that at
lets go tribe
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Its been like this since.....
…..June 1st really……One good week against Mil and Chi…..Other then that no hitting what so ever.
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
could be worse
At least we have each other!
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If Carl Pavano retired tomorrow
Would he be a first ballot Hall of Famer … we certainly seem to be going out of our way to make him look like one!
by tigerfaninChicago on Aug 2, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
This team is so different then the 06 team.....
…….that team never gave up and gave away at bats……This team gave up in the 4th inning today…..You can see it on their faces
And to me it makes no sense....
…..how a team could play like they dont care in the middle of a pennant race……Baffles me
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
you have that exalted power?
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then by all means FANPOST AWAY!
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we will probably need one soon
we’re at like 420
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where were those earlier
when we really needed them? DAMMIT
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No need for that overflow thread
I think most people have seen enough and are fairly speechless at this point
Arsdrubal
I would like to see him in an Olde English D
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ok. i just turned off my tv.
but i’ll stay and talk to you guys. if we score, let me know and i might turn it back on
I tried it but the icons didn't show up well enough
So I went with a lava flow for a while, then a blue shark from below.
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If we score....
…..thats hillarious….Should be comment of the day
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 2, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I second that emotion.
Blech.
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