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Jim Leyland was in quite a mood after yesterday's win, wouldn't you say?

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Jim Leyland was in quite a mood after yesterday's win, wouldn't you say?

With a 10 p.m. EST start for tonight's game between the Detroit Tigers and Oakland Athletics, we've got some time to kill.  So for the rest of the afternoon and evening leading up to the first pitch, let's do some BYOBYB. 

You're free to post whatever's on your mind, but here are some Tigers-related topics for you:

  • What are your expectations for this six-game road trip?  Can two wins be considered a success?
  • The Tigers didn't make a move to give themselves an extra pitcher in the bullpen after yesterday's game.  Did either Clete Thomas or Ryan Raburn change any minds in the organization?  Or might the team still call up a pitcher after they face a lefty tonight?  (Of course, they could make a move while this thread is posted.) 
  • With Gary Sheffield pouting because the Mets wouldn't talk about a contract extension, did the Tigers dodge a major minefield by releasing him before the season? 

And with that, we'll see you later tonight.  Unless you've got better Friday night plans.

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Big road trip

I’m going to the Monday game in Anaheim—-Verlander/Weaver on ESPN2?! Should be a good one.

I’ll take a stab at the ?’s in order:

1) .500 is a success. Nothing less. Win #1 tonight.

2) They might hold off if Jackson does his job, and Verlander going Monday. That said, I’d prefer Raburn to go out of the two.

3) ABSOLUTELY yes. Sheffield is the epitome of clubhouse cancer.

by NickLAwyer on Aug 21, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*high-five*

Amazing how low tickets on Stubhub are going for…I love LA, but its fans truly are terrible.

by NickLAwyer on Aug 21, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not local

just going to be in town visiting, but yeah, I got my seats for both games at least $10 under face value each

by allikazoo on Aug 21, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am excited for you Alli

I hope you have an excellent time.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 21, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully there will be no lulls

photos Alli, lots of photos

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 21, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is weaver LHP or RHP?

I’ll be along 1B/RF monday night

by allikazoo on Aug 21, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weaver throws with his right hand!

by StringTheory on Aug 21, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes I got that

but I forgot for a minute which he bats against. heh

by allikazoo on Aug 21, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I confused the “he”. Sorry. It’s hard to tell when Magglio plays now, whether it be a LHP or RHP.

by StringTheory on Aug 21, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think 3 wins in this trip is a necessity and would be a victory

But I think they need at least 4 to prove anything to anyone.

Thomas > Raburn

by Tagne13 on Aug 21, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Completely and totally non-Tigers related

Go see Inglorious Basterds. Now. You have plenty of time before the game.

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

seeing District 9

tomorrow.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 21, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

not you…. zoo action

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 21, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

see I told you I am slowww

yes i will…possibly

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 21, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you'll need to, mr.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 21, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

D9 was good

IB is better.

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 21, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+100

and for what it’s worth I loved D9

by tigerfaninChicago on Aug 21, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not my kind of movie.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
(Currently, and sadly, on a self-imposed team-specific puck sabbatical.)

by Baroque on Aug 21, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you not a Tarentino fan?

It’s much less brutal than the trailers show- very good character development.

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by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 21, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not just a fan of war movies, really.

Except Casablanca. :) But other than that, I guess I’m more of a science-fiction fan, although most movies I find extremely predictable and thus kind of boring.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
(Currently, and sadly, on a self-imposed team-specific puck sabbatical.)

by Baroque on Aug 21, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's less a war movie

And more a mix of several different genres. If I had to categorize it, I’d say it’s an infusion of Bond-type spy thriller with spaghetti western. Also Brad Pitt is hilarious.

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 21, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also think that Brad Pitt is a bit over-rated and much over-exposed.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
(Currently, and sadly, on a self-imposed team-specific puck sabbatical.)

by Baroque on Aug 21, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have much more confidence about the series in Oakland

than with the one in L.A.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 21, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you will be the gook luck charm we need

in L.A.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 21, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like the series in Oakland

Even more space for the Tigers to pop out into!

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 21, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lookout landing had a couple of funny captions for the Clete/Leyland pictures

having to do with either a shiv between the ribs or a knee to the nether regions

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by ahtrap on Aug 21, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

imo, it looks like Leyland is falling over onto clete from a

coronary or something.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 21, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus

Kurt may be a little torn for the next three…but we need to get 4 of them.

Sheffield needs to go away. Retire already, it’s an old boring act.

and obviously, I would prefer to keep Clete. Raburn has had some big at bats for the Tigers this year….but not enough.

"Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible."

by Zappatista on Aug 21, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Neither of them are exactly the models of consistentcy

Offensively or defensively. But the addition of Huff makes Raburn much more expendable. Clete is the only other player on the roster who can be adequate as a backup to Granderson.

by Tagne13 on Aug 21, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no way I'm torn

the Tigers need all three, I want a sweep.

The A’s can get back to winning on Monday.

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 21, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya, I didn't think so....

but, I thought I might prod you a little! Let us all hope that we don’t allow Jack Cust to be elected to the hall after the series….

"Without deviation from the norm, 'progress' is not possible."

by Zappatista on Aug 21, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Move?

I’m inclined to think they won’t make a move, this close to September 1.

Remember when carrying10 pitchers was considered a lot?

by rea on Aug 21, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Some thoughts

1) I agree with Tag. 3 wins is a necessity on the road trip, 4+ is respect.
    Besides wins (which are of course the most important), I want to see a lot of offense from
    the Tigers in their series against the Angels. The Angels’ pitching staff and bullpen are
    not good at all and Grandy loves hitting in Anaheim (so does Maggs). I hope that the
    Angels series really gets the offense going for the stretch run.

2) I do not think that the Tigers will call up a pitcher

3) I am glad the Tigers got rid of Sheff because he does not fit with the team. However, I think Sheff is a hall of famer (though not 1st ballet), one of the most talented players in the last 20 years and now that he has 500, he deserves to play with another team to get 3000 hits—he is only 300+ away!!!!

by Tigersin2010 on Aug 21, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pitching move

I don’t think the Tigers will try to go more than two weeks a man down in the bullpen, although I guess the starting pitching could step up and make it a non-issue. There does seem to be a certain amount of “play it by ear” going on though.

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 21, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

need to take three...

Two in oakland and one at the big a. Angels are a matchup nightmare for us, and they are on fire. Split the trip and get home healthy.

by rook34 on Aug 21, 2009 5:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Success on this trip?

I’ll take 3-3…but only if it means we stay at least 2 games ahead of the White Sox at the end of that stretch. They’ve got 3 against the Orioles before hitting a stratch of 4 versus the Red Sox and three against the Yankees, while we close the month against the Rays. I’d love for the Tigers to have a three game lead on the morning of September 1.

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by ahtrap on Aug 21, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey folks

might make the game later, but for now i’m going to a friend’s house, watching Bill Nye the Science Guy, and getting drunk. if i do get here, i’ll be drunk. see you folks around.

I Like Pie

by mrsunshine on Aug 21, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why Bill Nye

If I may be so bold as to ask?

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by demondeaconsbaseball on Aug 21, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need to clear something up

In the interest of historical accuracy, and since I’m the oldest person around here and therefore responsible for keeping the archives in order, I must clarify the origination of the phrase “Bless You Boys”

I moved to NC in 1980, so I wasn’t around in Detroit to hear Al Ackerman (aka Acid Al) during the 1984 series. However, I WAS around during the late 70’s, a time of great wailing and gnashing of teeth by Tiger fans. And I distinctly remember Al using the phrase during that era, and it wasn’t a compliment. The Tigers found all sorts of ways to lose, and Al would just shake his head when reporting about the games and murmur “Bless you, boys.”

Sparky was hired in 1979. Five years later, he gave us a World Series championship. Al was still saying "Bless you, boys, " but with an entirely different attitude (especially during that 35 – 5 start). And that’s the usage we remember and celebrate in song and website.

by NCDee on Aug 21, 2009 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Such a lovely phrase.

Thanks for that history lesson. I love the Tigers way more than I rationalize.

by 13194013 on Aug 21, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Three Questions

1. I think the Tigers stand a pretty good chance of winning the division if they still lead after this weekend against the A’s. As I’m sure someone’s mentioned already, the White Sox have the worst road stretch imaginable, visiting the Red Sox, Yankees, then the Twins, where they struggle just as much as we do. On top of that, they still have a west coast trip left. The schedule clearly favors the Tigers at this point. Minnesota has been way too inconsistent this year to mount any kind of late season surge. No real horse in their rotation anymore.

2. Clete Thomas could be great for the entire team because he can actually show the whole lineup how to work a freaking count instead of shooting for the moon on the first pitch. I’m sick of watching other teams work Verlander and Jackson for just 5 or 6 innings while anyone posting on here could probably pitch a CG against the Tigers. Raburn is a nice role player, I don’t mind keeping him around. Our late inning bullpen finally (for once) has stability with Seay, Lyon and (as much as I hate to say it) Rodney.

3. Sheffield’s old, is he the only one who doesn’t realize this?

by Elfuego51 on Aug 21, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he may be (Sheff, I mean).

He seems to be living on his own Planet of Selfish where if he doesn’t get what he wants, he pouts like a cranky toddler. That doesn’t work with a four-year-old, and it won’t work any better with a forty-year-old. At least a four-year-old can be cute even while cranky.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
(Currently, and sadly, on a self-imposed team-specific puck sabbatical.)

by Baroque on Aug 21, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Late night baseball

I may or may not be around for tonight’s game—currently dealing with some friend drama. My best friend and her boyfriend (coincidentally also one of my good friends) just broke up so she’s coming over. Depending on when she leaves I might be able to catch the end of the game. I’m pretty optimistic for this series though. Maybe I’m still glowing from yesterday’s win but I have a good feeling about these guys :) go Tigers!

by kendra.michelle on Aug 21, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Simple

Give her a pint of chocolate ice cream, a full box of tissues, and turn the sound down so you can hear her sob story over the game. :)

Seriously, she may not mind you watching the game – she may just want someone to be sympathetic to her when she’s going through a tough breakup. I know I didn’t expect undivided attention when I had breakups – I just wanted someone to listen and sympathize with how much of a booger he was for dumping me, and if she wanted to watch television, I didn’t care. It was a good distraction.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
(Currently, and sadly, on a self-imposed team-specific puck sabbatical.)

by Baroque on Aug 21, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's no shock, but Zumaya had surgery today

sounds like they “cleaned up” his rotator cuff and he is done until spring training (they didn’t say which year though)

by murrajo on Aug 21, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Boo for west coast trips

I’ll catch the first inning at most. East coast team travelling to west coast should all be day games. Some us easterners have lives….

Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!

by rwum14 on Aug 21, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no kidding

My eyes are quite bad enough – I can’t focus on projects when I’m tired. :(

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
(Currently, and sadly, on a self-imposed team-specific puck sabbatical.)

by Baroque on Aug 21, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just to clarify the age thing

I’m pretty old myself :)

Tammy

by VegasTigers on Aug 21, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so am I :)

I do remember the 1970’s. :D

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
(Currently, and sadly, on a self-imposed team-specific puck sabbatical.)

by Baroque on Aug 21, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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