Game 130: Rays at Tigers
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 31, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintTampa Bay Rays at Detroit Tigers, Aug 31, 2009 1:05 PM EDT
James Shields (8-10, 3.81) vs. 
Jarrod Washburn (9-7, 3.23), 1:05 p.m. EST
Why a day game on a Monday? This is the first weekend series at Comerica Park to go into a Monday, and the best guess (by Kurt, not me) is that the Rays needed an early getaway time to get back to Tampa. They begin a series with the Red Sox on Tuesday.
Over his past two starts, James Shields has looked more like the pitcher who won 14 games last year. He's allowed four earned runs in his last 12.1 innings. Apparently, regaining the feel for his change-up has been the big difference. Shields has never lost to the Tigers, compiling a 2-0 record and 2.31 ERA in four starts. He's even better at Detroit, where he's 1-0 with a 1.13 ERA in two appearances.
Jarrod Washburn got his first win as a Tiger in his last start, but it didn't come easy. However, there's something to be said for perseverance. Washburn fell behind early, serving up a three-run homer to Howie Kendrick, but settled down to give the Tigers four more innings and got a win for his effort.
He faced Tampa earlier this season, holding them to two runs and five hits over seven innings at Seattle. That put his career record versus the Rays to 12-3 with a 2.59 ERA.
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Starting Lineups
RAYS
1. Jason Bartlett SS
2. Gabe Kapler LF
3. Ben Zobrist RF
4. Pat Burrell DH
5. Evan Longoria 3B
6. Carlos Pena 1B
7. Willy Aybar 2B
8. Dioner Navarro C
9. B.J. Upton CF
TIGERS
1. Curtis Granderson CF
2. Placido Polanco 2B
3. Carlos Guillen LF
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Aubrey Huff DH
6. Brandon Inge 3B
7. Clete Thomas RF
8. Alex Avila C
9. Ramon Santiago SS
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 31, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
Heres the plan....
We build a 5-0 lead in the first than have another beautiful pitching performance by somebody (hopefully Wash), and get the game over by four when I leave for work.
Is it a plan?
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
let me clarify though...
by “somebody” I mean somebody on our team, not theirs.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
at first I thought '100% chance'
and then you updated to say on the tigers. Now i’m not so sure.
by Kurt Mensching on Aug 31, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
I went away for a second and thought about my comment and said to myself “thats a little vague.”
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
jeez, wash...
Don’t make me turn this off ten minutes in. Get someone out.
by rook34 on Aug 31, 2009 1:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Do you know how much I look forward to afternoon baseball, boys?
Do you know how you’re killing me here?
by NCDee on Aug 31, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
all those good vibes...
Gone before we record an out. Mondays suck.
by rook34 on Aug 31, 2009 1:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I want Nate Robertson back
How desperate am I?
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
At this point, he should just stay home.
by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
just looked at the spray chart on gameday
and it looks like only 2 of those hits were hit hard (Zobrist and Pena). The others look like they just fell in. Is that right?
So based on what I saw the other day Robertson was holding his own
why the short start? Just based on his arm not being strong enough to go further yet?
WASHBURN
WTF————————————LAST 5 STARTS IN SEATTLE 0.74 ERA…TO THIS…WTF dude get in the game for crying out loud,.,,so pissed…cant stand it when something goes uncharistically bad,,,like the Lions 0-16..really how do you lose all 16 games…how do you go from 0.74 to a 7 something ERA?
Dagger
Needed to take more advantage of Shields there – hope he stays wild and we can chip away like we did against Baltimore.
I was looking at pictures of Target Field earlier.
I’m actually excited to play there next season. It looks snazzy.
exactly
A front two of Jackson/Verlander is incredible.
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm hoping the additions to the 40 man roster
(especially Fien and Bonine) may take a little pressure off JV and EJ. I don’t know how you work them in — maybe follow the Joba rules and give everybody 3 innings.
hey guys
i come back from my first class of the semester to see 6-2….not what i was expecting
I Like Pie
I just realized this is the first Aug 31st of my life where I didnt have school obligations
how awesome
we NEVER start this early
but at least i won’t get off two days before christmas. we usually get out on december 20th or so, sometimes later.
I Like Pie
no friggin way
8-9 years of college was enough for me.
It’s all non-formal continuing ed workshops from here on out.
OMG John Cena
GAG….As a WWE fan, he gets shoved down everybody’s throat. There is a saying, “John Cena overcomes the odds…again.” that’s probably because they could make a 40 vs 1 match and he’d win it.
I Like Pie
so I'm taking blame for that mess
I added a tigers “twibbon” to my twitter avatar right as the game started. I just removed it. sorry guys.
when miggy slumps...
He really slumps. Horrible spot for a dp there. They are giving us chances and we are doing nothing with them.
by rook34 on Aug 31, 2009 1:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
we're getting close
for sure. We have more hits then the Rays… we just need to get a couple of clutch swings next time the opportunity presents itself.
Just wondering?
If it is safe to say that our latest acquisitions suck?
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
me too.
oh well, we know nothing, we are just fans…meh
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Washburn is better than this
This is a bit of a regression, unfortunately.
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
I don’t think he is better than this. Maybe there (in Seattle) but not here.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
He's better than a 7.30 ERA
Probably a 4 or a 4.5.
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It's more like an unfortunately timed abberation
16% HR/FB rate just doesn’t happen for long
by happydrifter on Aug 31, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hola
Just got home from school. I had MLB At-Bat up on my iPod during class, but it was frustrating seeing everything go to hell and not get any analysis of it whatsoever. Luckily, class ended early. I listened to the game on the radio on the way home, and got home in time to see that weird play involved Pena and Bartlett. Geez, the Tigers can’t even force the Rays to make errors properly.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
It was a catchable ball
Granderson went to the wrong spot, and then the ball got by him all the way to the wall.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
that ball did take a major curve on him though...
I don’t think there was anything Curtis could do about it.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
I think he could've prevented it from getting past him, though
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean the Granderson thing?
I don’t think it’s an error on his part. Ball really looked like it was headed to his right, but then it looked like it got caught up in the wind and hooked over to the left. Curtis tries to cut back but it wasn’t in time.
That is the third different game where they have shown that Pena HR
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a weird one..
ball hit toward curtis took a major curve in the air and got by him.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
It seems like Shields has tried to walk the last five hitters...
…but the only one biting is Inge. Aren’t you supposed to do more than stike out or lift a lazy fly ball to center with a three-ball count?
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This is just silly
I thought Washburn’s numbers were deceptively good in Seattle, but really… this is ridiculous.
So if Bartlett's suddenly getting it
It’s only fair that Cabrera get some hits in this game
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I was at a meeting.
I was hoping you would have this all sorted out before I got back.
Alas, it’s getting worse.
at least the Tigers can’t ruin the evening
but your afternoon...
that’s all jacked up.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Good news
I just read that the Cubs have decided to not trade Harden to the Twins after all. That’s huge.
nice of Leyland to let
Washburn hemorrhage before going to the pen.
But hey, on a lighter note:
I LOVE THESE GUYS !!!!! even on days like today (anyway) :o)
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Yeah, I know.
And I agree. I keep thinking how it would suck to be a Royals fan — have an ace like Greinke who gets no run support whatsoever (and yes we haven’t been hitting the lights out in that area, but we’re still miles ahead of KC). Talk about frustration.
20 back now is it?
poor fans and poor Grienke
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
I don't dislike the Royals
But I can’t afford to sympathize with them either. We have too many games left against them.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
as hard as it is to believe today
Detroit is in 1st place and playing IMPORTANT baseball as September starts
who would have believed it in March?
I would have
I didn’t predict it, but I did say they had the ability to do so.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
not me
I thought that they had a chance at 2nd, but not 1st
but I thought that the Indians would be much better than they are, the Twins too
I did think the Twins would be better
And while I didn’t expect the Indians to have as poor a first half as they had, I did not feel like their pitching staff was as good as everyone said it was.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding
Good to see him getting going with the season winding down. If he can keep at it and a few other guys can shake themselves out of their funk…the playoffs ought to be pretty entertaining.
Yeah…I said it. The playoffs.
That looked like a pitch Cabrera should've hit hard somewhere
What happened?
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this....
Makes a bad monday a whole lot worse. Must find way to pick up my spirits for the evening.
by rook34 on Aug 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
According to the radio
Brandon Inge just swung through a hanging changeup
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very good
I wish he could deliver us from evil, better know as the Rays
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Yeah, I don't really want to characterize the Rays as evil
I actually like them, normally. I rooted for them in the postseason last year.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
it appears...
Scouting reports on the master and ruler have made their way around. Yeesh.
by rook34 on Aug 31, 2009 2:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I like that the sleeve is making an appearance late in the season.
but I dont like these walks and hits
I just looked at Washburn's line for today, it is absolutely brutal
5 2/3 IP
9 hits
8 earned runs
3 BB
2 K
2 HR
Yeah, well, Perry is well on his way to earning a similar line for himself
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we play Dlugach for the next week?
It seems like every time we call someone up, they sting the ball for the first 10 days to two weeks and then go cold. But we might as well milk him for all he’s worth. Avila seems to have been just about milked.
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Checking out Navarro's shoulder.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You know...
As a general rule, I don’t call for the head of the starter when the relievers aren’t any better, and this is certainly the case right now. In that case, I’ll ring the neck of the entire pitching staff and continue my CSI/scientific investigation into what the deal is.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
So, had the game gone to the bottom of the ninth inning yesterday, I would've used this inning...
…but I think it fits now. On many levels.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
Carlos Guillen has 4 RBIs and we're losing
That doesn’t make sense either
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I wouldn't read much into it
Typical blowout maneuver, I would assume
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone else
feel like we hit to the level of our competition? It feels like we almost never blowout or get blown out.
A lifelong Tigers fan
I was looking at the same thing earlier
this month, out of 28 games, the difference has been 2 runs or less 19 times
Brandon's out of the game
Raburn at 3B
Unless you mean Brandon Lyon
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
well folks
i’m off to get free 8 layer bean dip, chips, lemonade, and deviled eggs. hooray classes that offer food for listening to guest lecturers.
I Like Pie
This is still better than the papers I have to write for class tonight
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
HOLY!!!
step away for 15 minutes and I come back to this….aaarrgg
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Ryan Perry blew up
Plus, with his head shaved, you can see the veins in his temples bulging and it’s nasty looking
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
There were several of us voicing our displeasure in the game thread that night
Have they said what on earth possessed him to do that?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahahaha
I would ask him, but I’m not going to another game this year, and besides, I have horrible luck with players and autographs.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
when I saw it yesterday
he has some newly formed follicles, you can once again tell he has blond hair.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
me too
he is someone who looks, i dunno, just not right bald. To young and Hot…
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
I generally don't find bald guys to be attractive at all
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
me niether.
but i can’t stand hairy men….. like on their backs and stuff, just eww
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Haha
I know what you mean. I LOVE Justin Verlander, except for the hairy arms.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I work with a girl
who loves, loves, loves hairy men…. blagh
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
So we are rooting for theWhite Sox tonight, right?
This is confusing, I hate rooting for division rivals.
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
I think so
The White Sox are further back, but we don’t want them to sweep the Twins either.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That might be a problem in and of itself
The Indians have been playing well recently, especially against the Central
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm back...
and it appears we keep putting runs on the board but also keep giving them up.
Pitching FAIL?
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
Hey,
It’s been a long time since we’ve lost a proper slugfest.
We’ve just made it one.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Tried to
Bunted it just a little too hard.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that pitching killed this game but.
17 men left on base?
2-8 with RISP?
that didn’t help the cause any
How do you score 7 runs and only go 2-for-8 RISP?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
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sad tromboneeeeee
now I gotta stay awake for two more hours before leaving work and AA baseball tonight.
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