Tigers Lose: Game 130 Thread of Shame

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 31, 2009 4:00 PM EDT in Detroit Tigers News

The Rays must have been really mad about having a win stolen from them yesterday. They most certainly took out those frustrations on Jarrod Washburn and Ryan Perry this afternoon.

Hopefully, those in attendance at Comerica Park enjoyed the pleasant fall-like weather. Or spiked those fluorescent-colored daiquiris with forget juice.

That was about as ugly as it gets. Like watching sirloin go through a meat grinder.

Full recap later this evening. Probably won't be a long one. Maybe a lot of focus on Carlos Guillen.

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I am so happy I decided to pay attention to class instead of the game

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 4:02 PM EDT reply actions

blah

by allikazoo on Aug 31, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions

This sounds about right

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Before the big stretch run against Twins and Black Sox, we need to take care of business. Six games against the Indians and six against the Royals in the next three weeks. We need to build as much of a padded lead as possible before those end of year games, because if we hit a rough patch at the end, we could end up staying at home in October.

A lifelong Tigers fan

by ewild on Aug 31, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions

As with DDB, glad to have been too busy to pay attention today

I did know that Washburn gave up 6 before he got an out, and managed to make a twins fan’s day by telling him about it. Oh well, I guess that was my (questionable) good deed for the day, before I go out and construct a Jarrod Washburn voodoo doll…

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by ahtrap on Aug 31, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions

buzzkill...

Today should be an effective reminder that everything is going to be difficult from here to the end. We just aren’t consistently good enough to pull away. Leyland and dd have a tough decision to make about washy. Not with regard to the playoff rotation, but whether or not he goes this weekend in tampam. He just killed us today.

by rook34 on Aug 31, 2009 4:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

so...

let’s say we do make the playoffs.

does Washburn deserve the 3rd start?

Is it worth it to start him over Porcello to save his innings?

by actioncuse on Aug 31, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions

If Porcello really is a better option

Go with him. Flags fly forever.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Who starts Game 4, then?

Assuming there is one.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions

worry about that in October

a lot can change in a month

Mack Avenue Tigers

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 31, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

in a 7 game series

I want Verlander pitching 3 times.

Maybe allow him to only get to 100 pitches, not 120, and make it easier.

by actioncuse on Aug 31, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd say Verlander.

The A’s went with one (3 man rotation) in 2002.

by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

you have to go with the guys that will give you the chance to win that series

I think they have been careful with Porcello, but if they need him to pitch in the divisional series or later, then that’s what you do. But, if Nate can show us that he is back to form then maybe (and I’m only saying “maybe”) he can take up some of the work.
But the bullpen is good enough to carry them through a short start (5+ innings) from Rick.

by murrajo on Aug 31, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions

OH MAN

I ALMOST FORGOT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ZPTFfpO40

THE DOG DAYS ARE OVER!

even though they weren’t that bad for us.

by allikazoo on Aug 31, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions

The funny thing is...

…Jarrod Washburn hasn’t pitched particularly well, but the Tigers are 4-2 in his starts. The team actually has a better winning percentage in Washburn’s starts than they do in games that Edwin Jackson starts. This makes no sense, but as long as the Tigers win more often than they lose on days when Washburn pitches, I won’t question it.

And I still say that something about the trade itself has caused Washburn to not pitch well. It’s the only variable in the equation.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions

Just statistical noise

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions

and the fact that they seem to be using inflatable bats when E-Jax pitches

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by ahtrap on Aug 31, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions

It's called regression to career norms

by Rudy4three on Aug 31, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh, I'm not arguing that it's not regression...

What I’m saying is that it looks as though somehow the trade itself caused the regression. Why else would he regress only after landing in Detroit?

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions

worse OF defense and a smaller park

Essentially, the Lookout Landing people were right. Unfortunately.

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by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

I still don't really buy that explanation, though

The outfield has pretty much been a non-factor in his starts. The only outfield miscue today that cost us a run was the ball that Granderson misplayed (ironic, since Grandy’s normally our best defensive outfielder). No one would have run down the bloops that were dumped down the right field line. And most of the home runs he’s given up would have been out anywhere. Perhaps he doesn’t take to Rick Knapp like he did to Rick Adair?

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions

The HR rate is abso ridiculous

So ridiculous that he’s sure to regress to the mean anyway. The Lookout Landing guys were right, but not this right, so to speak. He should be 4.5 pitcher at least in this park, which, I should remind you, is not small.

by The Nicker on Aug 31, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions

I forgot what it was like to have a life

I’ve been really busy back here at school—I’m working as a student leader for this program I did last year, so today I had training all day but Alli texted me updates (thanks again yo) so I got the gist of the game. Some sort of general “mrf” sound comes to mind when I try to sum up my reaction. Anyway, I don’t know how much free time I’ll be having now that I have actual responsibilities, but I’ll be around. Now it’s nap time; I’m running on 5 hours of sleep.

P.S. from the sounds of things Ryan Perry is trying to look like Bobby Seay, physically. I do not understand this.

by kendra.michelle on Aug 31, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions

where do you go to school?

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 31, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions

U of M

by kendra.michelle on Aug 31, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I just got an invitation to my 5-year college class reunion

It came with a directory, and I totally don’t recognize most of the names in it. The thing is, I feel so much more connected to Denison (where I graduated from) than UT (which is where I go to pharmacy school now).

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions

my sister goes to UM

She’s got another year to go in her PhD program in mechanical engineering.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Aug 31, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions

AWESOME !!!!

GO BLUE!!!! Good Girl

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 31, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions

it hasn't quite reached seay proportions

but it’s kind of going that way. I dunno. you can look on mlb.tv later if you want and see. haha

by allikazoo on Aug 31, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions

It would take years of inactivity, potato chips, and red bulls for Perry to reach Seay proportions.

by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions

just referring to that weird jawline beard thing he seems to have going on

I don’t expect anyone else to have noticed it. I do tend to pick these things apart.

by allikazoo on Aug 31, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m pretty sure it was a topic in one of the gamethreads. I noticed the unfortunate beard choice too.

Now. I think he should revert to this:

by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Is that Wild Thing?

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by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think the glasses are Woody Allen enough to be Wild Thing.

by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I noticed the beard, too...

…but I was too busy being grossed out by his bulging temple veins to register an opinion on it.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions

You need a nap?

Come on- 5 hours of sleep is a luxury.

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd take a nap

But I have two papers due at 11:55 tonight.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Fun

In what?

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by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Pharmacy practice

Over my summer internship hours

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Fun stuff

I have a buddy who wants to go to Pharm school at UNC.

President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.

by David Tokarz on Aug 31, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Not sure if you guys have seen this or not...

But not only did the Twins not get Harden, they’re not getting Penny either.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions

The trouble with day games during the week

is my work computer REALLY hates this site and takes forever to load in new comments. So I go mute. But I was not happy with our performance today. Carlos was good as gold, obviously, but I’m seeing a lot more sloppy play in the field that does not bode well for September. This is not a playoff quality team at this point.

And tonight I have the distasteful prospect of rooting for the White Sox. I feel like the Meijer spinach girl.

by NCDee on Aug 31, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions

7-11!!!

We should all get free Slurpees to deaden the pain!

Glad I missed the game because I was busy at work. Bleargh. :(

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Aug 31, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions

Not enough penguins, maybe?

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

sorry :(

I was really busy. And I’ll be out tomorrow evening, too. :(

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Aug 31, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll be at work tomorrow

So, depending on how the pitching is, I’ll probably get home sometime between the sixth inning and the eighth inning. Unless we’re overwhelmed by prescriptions (It could happen. We close at 9:00, but last Monday’s crew stayed until 11:00).

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions

if 7-11's store locator is correct

my nearest 7-11 is only 4 hours drive!

Mack Avenue Tigers

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 31, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions

that's a long way for a Slurpee. :)

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Aug 31, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions

As opposed to me...

I drive past no fewer than three 7-11s on my way to school, and yet I don’t think I’ve ever been in a 7-11.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions

the only time I go to a 7-11 now

Is when I’ve been out with my nephew and my parents, and we pick up Slurpees on the way home.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Aug 31, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions

we go to a local informal botanical garden to play

And I’m the one running up and down hills with my nephew and preventing him from falling in the stream (he’s four and a half), while the grandparents push the stroller with his baby sister. :)

I don’t mind, though. He’s a good kid, and they grow up so fast.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Aug 31, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I never went to them when I lived by them anyway

and then a guy was shot and killed at one by the one near the MSU campus anyway.

I probably wasn’t missing much.

Mack Avenue Tigers

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 31, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions

clearly we need edit function!

Mack Avenue Tigers

by Kurt Mensching on Aug 31, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions

at least you know they'll be open when you get there

I love slurpee/ icees

by murrajo on Aug 31, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

They just opened a Sonic near my house...

So that’s the hot new place right now. I like their slushes.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ve never been to Sonic and there is not one anywhere close to me, and yet I see their commercials ALL THE TIME.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Aug 31, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions

That used to be me

I always got their commercials, and yet there was no Sonic for fifty miles. They finally built one in Perrysburg about a year ago, and then the one near my house opened in July.

Now I get Jack-in-the-Box commercials, and according to their website, the nearest Jack in the Box to me is in Cookesville, Tennessee (I live just outside Toledo, OH).

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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Jack in the Box isn't so bad.

They seem to proliferate the pacific coast states. My friend who moved to Florida visits every year and gorges on JitB because he misses them so much.

by 13194013 on Aug 31, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions