Monday Matinee Massacre: Rays 11, Tigers 7
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 31, 2009 7:20 PM EDT
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PrintI don't know if there's a way to quantify this exactly, but if the Detroit Tigers make the playoffs this season, will they be the first team to do so despite its trade deadline acquisitions?
Jarrod Washburn has started badly in four of the five games he's pitched for the Tigers since coming over from the Seattle Mariners. But today, he kind of redefined the idea of starting badly. Tampa's first six batters reached base, and put six runs on the scoreboard before Washburn even recorded an out.
Washburn was victimized by some bad luck during that stampede. Consecutive doubles by Ben Zobrist and Pat Burrell were blooped over the infield, dropping into just the right spot where no Tigers defenders could reach them. Those two hits drove in three runs. But floating a fastball up and out over the plate for Carlos Pena to smash over the right-field fence was all on Washburn.
Falling behind so badly, Jim Leyland really had no choice but to hang his starter out to dry. Why waste the bullpen with no off-day this week? Washburn finally limped off the field in the sixth inning, having given up eight runs on nine hits. He also walked three batters and served up two homers.
With mere hours before the waiver trade deadline, I wondered if it occurred to Dave Dombrowski to try and ask the Mariners for a refund? Because so far, this transaction is most definitely not working out to the Tigers' satisfaction.
Whimper:
Detroit's other late-season acquisition isn't yielding much return, either. Aubrey Huff did nothing to help his team overcome Washburn's meltdown, batting 0-for-4 (though he did reach base once, due to an error).
And Ryan Perry spilled the bucket in mop-up duty. When he goes bad, he tends to make it count. In the seventh inning, four of the first six batters he faced reached base, resulting in another three runs. Whatever slim chances the Tigers had at a comeback fizzled out after that.
Purr:
Carlos Guillen had a fantastic day at the plate, batting 4-for-5 with two home runs. Whether it's because he's swinging with two hands or fresher legs from playing the outfield give him more drive in his swing, Guillen has become a pretty formidable left-handed power threat. Unfortunately, it was completely lost amidst the Rays' onslaught today.
Comment of the Day:
I realize this was a practical question, but it seems like you could add so much more meaning to it.
can we call this a "get away game" if they aren't going anywhere?
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If only someone had seen The Jarrod Washburn Terribleness before it happened!
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And now at Beyond the Boxscore!
Armando’s entire 2008 motto seemed to be “There’s lies, damned lies, and my BAbip”. Too bad Washburn couldn’t stay a fluke all year like he did.
(And psst. Your Boxscore link has a code typo.)
by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad I'm highly skeptical of the BABIP stat
Armando’s struggles are attributable to either injury or something that got out of whack mechanically (Given what has happened over the past few days, I’ve a sneaking suspicion it’s the former). I’m not real strong when it comes to identifying pitches, but in his bad starts, his pitches don’t seem to move the same way they did last year. If they did, he’d be doing just fine. I am convinced of this.
And I don’t think anyone’s trying to argue that Washburn’s season was not a fluke. Now we just gotta figure out how to get back to “fluke” status until, say, mid-November.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
To get back to his “fluke” status, we would need to switch ballparks and outfield defenses with the Mariners. Seattle’s park suppresses right handed hitters in the power alleys more than Detroit does. For a LH fly-ball pitcher, that’s not a good thing to leave that and the best outfield defense in the majors this year. I’m about to write a quick blurb on it in a second.
And now at Beyond the Boxscore!
Sox wave the white flag?
ESPN’s Buster Olney reports that the White Sox have “distributed a memo to a number of teams in the league informing them that a number of Chicago veterans are available in trade.” Jim Thome, Jermaine Dye, and Scott Linebrink were among the players listed in memo.
Yikes.
Who would be in the middle of their order next year? Rios, Beckham, and Konerko? Ouch.
by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If only we didn’t have Aubrey Huff … Jim Thome would look good in the DH spot.
But, that doesn’t surprise me. I was shocked they added payroll at the deadline with the Peavy/Rios moves since just earlier in the year Kenny Williams was talking about how they didn’t have payroll room and were projected to draw less fans than anticipated.
And now at Beyond the Boxscore!
Jason Beckk says
“Huff is owed about 2.13 million for the remainder of the year.”
Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.
Hawk just referred to the Metrodome
as “this Godforsaken place” THat may be the only thing he’s ever said I agree with.
I'm not even bothering to watch
I generally will watch the broadcast of the team I want to win, but I can’t stand Hawk. Besides, I need to finish some papers. Therefore, I’ll keep track using the At-Bat app.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
hawk would say that....sox are awful there...
Too bad todays result forces me to cheer for those bastards this evening.
by rook34 on Aug 31, 2009 8:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Now you know how I feel everytime we need the Red Sox or Indians to win
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
washburn
this trade is beginning to smell like the renteria trade that dombrowski put together. never thought i would say this but maybe robertson is a better option than washburn…..
The Sox do have Floyd, Danks, and Buehrle in this series
If they’re gonna win two of three, they’ve got the three pitchers that give them the best chance to do it in this series.
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I would guess they will split the first two..
and lose the third in the typical epic fashion the White Sox lose in at the Dome.
Are you sure?
French gave up seven earned runs in five innings against the Angels.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 1, 2009 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions
At this point
I’d rather have a not big league ready French and his potential than a WishyWashburn giving up a HR an inning… Maybe I’m I should be more patient, but I am so angry with his lack of performance to this point I don’t care to see him on the mound again this year….
In case you weren't following this...
One “thing you’re not supposed to talk about with pitchers” just got broken up in the sixth, the other is still intact through six. Just so you know.
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End of three?
Wow. At-Bat must be really slow tonight. It’s still in the top of the third for me.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I was wrong.
At-Bat is right. That’s what I get for crocheting and trying to follow a game at the same time.
Crocheting sounds like fun right now
Sure beats answering prompts like “Describe the types of technology and automation used at your internsip site, and how the affect the traditional role of the pharmacist” or “Reflect on the pharmacist’s activities that do not directly involve dispensing medications.”
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
they probably already know that :)
Patient education, maybe? The importance of making sure that clients are aware of possible drug interactions?
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Yes and maybe instructing diabetic patients on how to use their meters.
AND — “brown bag days” Have the patients bring in all the drugs they take in and see what’s expired and review whether they can tell you the right way to take the stuff their supposed to be on.
I do work at a retail pharmacy
However, the state board requires us to have a certain number of unpaid hours both at a retail pharmacy and at a hospital pharmacy, and I completed some of my hours at the hospital pharmacy over the summer, which is what my prompts are about. All I have is counseling patients in the outpatient pharmacy and consulting with doctors on heparin and vancomycin levels, but it’ll have to do (I would’ve been able to do a lot more had I done my hours at retail).
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hee hee
The condom aisle where I work is right up against the pharmacy wall. There are also orthopedic items on the same shelf. I love it when teenage couples are browsing that shelf and pick up a knee brace and stare at it like they’re utterly fascinated by it.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm also crocheting right now. :)
Making small pumpkin baskets for trick-or-treating for my baby niece and her cousin (I think – it’s the baby daughter of my brother-in-law’s sister). Took a couple shots for me to get a shape I was happy with, but I think they’ll be pretty cute once I sew on the leaves and tendrils and handles. I haven’t decided yet if I should put a jack-o-lantern face on it, though.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
My brother is getting a scarf, probably just for winter not just for Christmas, and I’m going to make safety barrels for my nephew to play with when he goofs around with his trucks, but what else I make will depend on which name I draw in our exchange.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Well, that's that
Andy Pettitte joins Josh Johnson as pitchers who will not throw a no-hitter tonight.
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I thought that was Crede
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
he can't spare much more mind loss
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Yeah, well, could they save the meltdown for after they're done with the Twins?
It’s not like Minnesota’s had stellar pitching this year.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's not like they're...well...us
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Washburn decision?
I disagree that Leyland “had” to leave his starter out there…we get fresh arms tomorrow with the roster expansion. He absolutely should’ve pulled Washburn nearly immediately, when it was readily apparent to this guy in attendance that JW didn’t have it or didn’t care.
Bad decision and it cost them much chance for a comeback.
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It's not like Perry was any better
And Washburn proceeded to retire nine in a row after that and didn’t allow another run until the fith (which was on that wacky ball that Grandy misplayed). During that span, it looked like he was gonna settle in, but it didn’t happen.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap
What happened to the Texas pitching staff? They blew two leads against Minnesota over the weekend, and now Derek Holland has given up ten earned runs in three innings to the Blue Jays. This is no way to win the Wild Card.
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I knew their road trip wouldn't be easy.
But they’re in complete free-fall mode. It’s fun watching someone else experience it.
by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I see Lynn Henning is his usual cheery self
by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Link fail
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I read that earlier.
I almost posted it and asked “Does Lynn Henning even like the Tigers a little bit?” It’s like he tries to intentionally be anti-Detroit for the sake of controversy.
by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Lynn Henning is an asshole.
That is all.
If he were even paying attention to the Twins, he’d know that Crede’s back is so screwed they are talking retirement.
They may get us, sure. But his need to be snarking and openly despise the team he’s covering is unnecessary. Be impartial. Be objective. I don’t need another homer. But this is just being an ass for the sake of being an ass. He sucks.
That topic line is a bit harsh. Let me rephrase.
Lynn Henning’s articles portray the characteristics of the above description.
That article made me angry and I went a bit over the top. Sorry, Ian.
What are you doing, Ozzie Guillen?
With two down and Mauer on first in the bottom of the eighth, he removes Matt Thornton and puts in Bobby Jenks. Mauer promptly steals second (!), then Jenks gives up an RBI single to Cuddyer and is now in a lenghty at-bat with Brendan Harris. WTF?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
As we discussed earlier...
he’s losing his mind.
The 05 Sox are disintegrating before our eyes. Jenks is the latest to implode.
Just because it'll drive Ozzie and Hawk that much crazier
Nathan’ll probably load the bases with none out and then strike out the side.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
So much for that
Still, he’s one-third of the way towards striking out the side.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Really good pitch, I take it?
I don’t have MLB.tv up right now, just At-Bat Gameday
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hawk gets all pissy and quiet when the Sox are losing.
So unprofessional; he’ll go an inning or two and not say anything.
It'll be Jon Danks and Jeff Manship tomorrow...
…so they got a shot with Danks pitching (after all, he has the only win on their road trip so far). I don’t know anything about Manship, though.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Danks is hell on Mauer and Morneau.
But the Sox can’t score. At all.
They need Manship, whoever he is, to leave balls up in the zone and help them out.
They are totally deer-in headlights lost.
Well, Manship does have an ERA of 5.14
But I don’t know how many innings that covers (and I’m too lazy to look it up right now)
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear Bud Selig or whoever it is that is in charge of making the schedules,
Please do not schedule a Fenway-New York-Minnesota road trip for the Tigers. Ever.
Signed,
Tigers fans worldwide
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
Meanwhile, the Rangers aren't helping their Wild Card chase
They had made it a one-run game, but now it’s 13-10 Blue Jays. This is more like the Rangers of years past. I’d rather see them in the postseason than the Red Sox, I can tell you that much.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
Poor Rangers.
Jason Grilli blew their hopes of a comeback in the ninth.
by StringTheory on Aug 31, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Pedro Strop doesn't seem to have done any better...
Though at least he got the first two out.
Man, Grilli screws the Tigers even when he isn’t playing for them.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it's time for me to go to bed
I’ll turn on the Dodgers game and fall asleep to the entertaining sound of Vin Scully’s play-by-play. He’s already been entertaining: “I’m sitting here talking about hairstyles” (after spending a great deal of time explaining that Ronnie Belliard used to wear his hair in braids).
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by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 31, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
thome gone....
Traded to the dodgers. Guess rios moves to center full time. Dye to dh. Someone to right.
by rook34 on Sep 1, 2009 1:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
not just thome, but contreras as well.
i’m glad we dont’ have to deal with thome for a long time, unless we meet the dodgers in the world series or something (or interleague in future years).
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