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Game 105: Orioles at Tigers

Baltimore Orioles at Detroit Tigers, Aug 4, 2009 7:05 PM EDT


  Brian Matusz (0-0, -.--) vs.   Jarrod Washburn (8-6, 2.64), 7:05 p.m. EST

Welcome to Detroit, Jarrod Washburn.  And welcome to a playoff race.  The Tigers' shiny new acquisition makes his debut in the Old English D this evening.  We should find out pretty quickly how good he can be against a strong Orioles lineup.  (Baltimore is a bit less fearsome against lefties, however, batting .260/.319/.384.) 

Washburn has faced the Orioles twice this season (both times in Seattle), giving up just one run in 16 innings.  One of those games was a complete game one-hitter.  He won that one.  The other start was a 1-0 loss.  Hopefully, Washburn gets a little better run support tonight. 

As excited as we are to watch Washburn make his Tigers debut tonight, Orioles fans are equally, if not more, excited to see Brian Matusz pitch his first major league game.  The left-hander was 11-2 with a 1.91 ERA in 19 starts, including a 7-0 mark with Double-A Bowie.  Overall, he's posted 121 strikeouts and 32 walks in 113 innings.

The Tigers' record against Orioles rookie pitchers isn't so flashy, by the way.  Back in May at Baltimore, the two games Detroit lost were to Brad Bergesen and David Hernandez.  Of course, they also beat Jason Berken, so I guess that makes them 1-2 against O's first-timers.

I forgot to mention last night that Camden Chat has your SB Nation opposing view for this series.  Sorry about that.

UPDATE: If you didn't catch the news earlier, the Tigers called outfielder Wilkin Ramirez up from Toledo this afternoon.  He's in left field and batting leadoff this evening.

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YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY YAY! Game soon :D I’m gonna watch! And participate fully in the thread! I’ve missed you people!

by wepri31 on Aug 4, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Starting Lineups

ORIOLES

1. Brian Roberts 2B
2. Nolan Reimold LF
3. Nick Markakis RF
4. Adam Jones CF
5. Aubrey Huff DH
6. Melvin Mora 3B
7. Ty Wigginton 1B
8. Matt Wieters C
9. Cesar Izturis SS

TIGERS

1. Wilkin Ramirez LF
2. Placido Polanco 2B
3. Magglio Ordonez RF
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Marcus Thames DH
6. Ryan Raburn CF
7. Brandon Inge 3B
8. Gerald Laird C
9. Adam Everett SS

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 4, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Never Understood.....

…in the 1st palce why we sent down Dolsi for fein….dolsi had a era under 1.00 and we sent him down for him?…..Glad to see Wilkin now though……Cant wait to see Dolsi again.

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 4, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

really makes me wonder what's going on

you wouldn’t think they’d purposely be short a reliever…and now they have too many outfielders.

by mrsunshine on Aug 4, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

you may see them both again

In September. I imagine that Wilkin is here for a short stint too. Both Bondo and Nate are do rehab in Toledo tonight. Look for one or both to be on the roster within the week and Wilkin to be gone too.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 4, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

could be both

maybe someone (after tonight will be DL’d and Wilken will be gone) and Nate and Bondo to be in the pen. Nate in the pen, frightens the hell outta me.

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 4, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 4, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder.

Does Jim not realize that Washburn is an extreme fly-ball pitcher, or just not care?

by rcpratt on Aug 4, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear mlb.com

I have visited the city of Baltimore several times and enjoyed myself immensely. Inner Harbor, Camden Yard — it’s lovely. However, I live 300 miles away and there is no station in my area that carries Orioles games.

Please explain to me WHY IN WIETER’S NAME I AM BLACKED OUT OF THESE GAMES.

Thank you.

by NCDee on Aug 4, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not MLB that has the block outs. It's your local cable co

If they hold exclusive rights, no one else can show the game either

by VegasTigers on Aug 4, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

no this is on mlb.com

I have yet to hear anyone give me a rational explanation why any games should be blacked out on the internet. Who would CHOOSE to watch a game online if it’s available on television?

by NCDee on Aug 4, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's mlb.tv, and they're freaking awful about it.

There was an espn article about it a few weeks ago. When I’m at school in Central Indiana, I’m blacked out in Chicago (understandable, I guess. We get 1 Chicago station, the one that shows Cubs games) AND Cleveland? Cleveland is like 4 hours away. That makes sense.

Needless to say, I no longer pay for that crap. Except in the playoffs.

by rcpratt on Aug 4, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello

Being at the game last night was incredible! Always great to be there. I’m pumped for Washburn’s debut tonight.

by kendra.michelle on Aug 4, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

You're not supposed to smoke in Comerica

but when we were there last night my dad found a cigarette butt under his seat. I said it must have been Leyland’s. Rules don’t apply to him.

by kendra.michelle on Aug 4, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you made me think of an old game

we used to make a circle below the belt with two fingers. if people saw it, you got to punch them

by mrsunshine on Aug 4, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Made it just in time!

I never unloaded and put away groceries so fast in my life. Thank goodness the person in line in front of me wasn’t sleepy snail slow – I would have KILLED HIM!!!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

and a double

well, it’s better than last night’s homer

by mrsunshine on Aug 4, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf. Clete would have thrown him out.

by wepri31 on Aug 4, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

oh geez...

I thought things from Jarrod were supposed to be nice.

by madpoopz on Aug 4, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

As long as he doesn't give up five runs in the first, I'm fine.

Can’t dig that kind of hole twice and expect to dig out of it.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

just one run given up

Not very bad at all.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

leadoff homer?

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

p

Welcome to Detroit>>Where the weak are killed and eaten.

by Detroitchik on Aug 4, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't watch the game yet

Going over final touch-ups with the people painting my house. My long nightmare might actually finally be over.

Dear Wieters, just let me sit down and watch some baseball.

by Ian Casselberry on Aug 4, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

um...

i’m getting a bad feeling so far about this game. seems a little sloppy

by mrsunshine on Aug 4, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

bad week for aces?

halladay gave up 2 runs in the first

by allikazoo on Aug 4, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Everett has got to make that play...

Whether he gets him at first or not, no excuse for not stopping that.

by rcpratt on Aug 4, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd prefer 3 straight outs...

instead of hoping for a double play.

by madpoopz on Aug 4, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally the last out of a no-hitter.

No man has ever been as hot as JV was that day.

by wepri31 on Aug 4, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

No hitter for nine innings, and then the home team wins on an inside-the-park homer in the bottom of the ninth.

With two outs, and after a 0-2 count and fouling off about 10 pitches first.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tigers winning the wold series.

That’s an excitement I hope to experience someday.

by madpoopz on Aug 4, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

RISP squander time!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

i would laugh so hard if he walks everett

just because of how bad he’s been struggling

by mrsunshine on Aug 4, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd settle for adequate.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

baby steps first :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Opie

Hit a grand slam for Aunt Bea.

by NCDee on Aug 4, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

missed it by that much

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Aug 4, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey look.

If we switched shortshops, we’d be winning 2-1.

by rcpratt on Aug 4, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

And another thing...

… if it’s Everett in the batter box, can you really call it a squander? That’s just Everett doing what he does; being wholly useless with the bat in his hands. To think some people actually want him back (vomit)

by BigDaddyJC on Aug 4, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch.

Comparing anyone to A-Rod is just mean.

by 13194013 on Aug 4, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure

A-Rod is so fake pretty – in a plastic Ken-doll kind of way.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Dan Dickerson,

it took Dombrowski to convince Leyland to remove Granderson against lefties.

by StringTheory on Aug 4, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

One look at Grandy's numbers versus lefties

Should make anyone sit him down against lefties.

by 13194013 on Aug 4, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Izturis is on the O's now?

Man, I remember him on the Dodgers. I guess I lost track of him.

by 13194013 on Aug 4, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Only positive right now

Matusz has already thrown 68 pitches.

by BigDaddyJC on Aug 4, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

heyyy oo

let’s see if my internet can handle game thread and MLB.tv at the same time

Motown String Music- SB Nation's Detroit Pistons Blog

by Packey on Aug 4, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Rod: "They bent him over a little bit at the waist"

That sounds very … interesting?

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Binge!

Putout in foul territory!

by StringTheory on Aug 4, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Patrick Eaves!!!

(Sorry, wrong sport.) :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

what question?

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

your fanpost?

Busy at work today – I’ll read it now.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

NICE PICTURES!

Glad you had a great time – but no diet dew needed. Who knows, she may wind up being a wacko that you want to dump in a couple months before she gets attached enough to stalk you.

See if it lasts first. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Radio highlights?

Is there a place to find DD’s call on Clete’s walkoff last night?

by Elfuego51 on Aug 4, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

so?

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Aug 4, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

BINGE!

there you go Alli

Motown String Music- SB Nation's Detroit Pistons Blog

by Packey on Aug 4, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

RISP

I’m watching through my fingers.

by 13194013 on Aug 4, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

EVERRETT!

You did something worthwhile!

by Ryan Weiss on Aug 4, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

We need a stat check.....

This is AE’s first RBI since when?

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Aug 4, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

ooo

didnt know he could do that

by Ryan Weiss on Aug 4, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

the Tigers

have a failtastic offense.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Should have beaned him.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Washburn also doesn't exactly light it up against the Orioles historically

They’re one of the teams that seems to like him, his earlier 1 hit game against them excluded.

by 13194013 on Aug 4, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, and the answer is no

No diet dew needed. See if it lasts or if she turns into a wacko stalker in four months. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

told ya

My relationship history has not been marked by stellar judgement. I like hearing about someone else’s working out because I don’t think it’s something I’ll ever have happen. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that was awfully familiar.

That’s the 12th Orioles home run off of Washburn in his career.

by 13194013 on Aug 4, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

that's prob like 1 a year, lol

how many years has he been in the league?

by Tagne13 on Aug 4, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

In around 330+ ABs

He doesn’t pitch to them all that often since he’s in the AL west. Gotta remember numbers and games pitched.

He has over 770 ABs against the A’s though.

by 13194013 on Aug 4, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been in the majors less than a year...

.. and I already fucking hate Gordon Beckham. 1-0 CWS

by BigDaddyJC on Aug 4, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

it seems like the Sox just breed Tiger killers.

I feel like there aren’t many Tigers that dominate a team constantly.

by Elfuego51 on Aug 4, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their management hates the Tigers

Guess what Kenny Williams, the feeling is mutual.

by BigDaddyJC on Aug 4, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Magglio's curls.

I should have bid for them on ebay.

by wepri31 on Aug 4, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

damn

hoped it would leave, but without hitting the ground

by mrsunshine on Aug 4, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Did Rodney teach this kid how to iron the bill of his hat before the game?

"Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not"

by Zappatista on Aug 4, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I see Miggy got the memo

http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com

by rock n rye on Aug 4, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Marcus

wait for one in your happy zone.

by NCDee on Aug 4, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

OMW

I just set my mlb.tv to show me Joey’s at bats. What a good day.

by wepri31 on Aug 4, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

seriously?

this guy is creating squander opportunities just to mess with us

by mrsunshine on Aug 4, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

or just be adequate.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

adequacy FAIL

:(

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on raburn

time for your random hit of the evening

by Ryan Weiss on Aug 4, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Said it before and I'll say it many more times

We’ll see if they ever devote an entire offseason to simply pitching and defense.

by BigDaddyJC on Aug 4, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

with the players they have

offense should not be a problem. granderson, polonco, maggs, cabrera, thames
this line up should make pitchers cry in their beds, but instead we do

by murrajo on Aug 4, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding

I thought it was a stupid question too, there’s no comparison.

by Elfuego51 on Aug 4, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn it

still 24 minutes until south park

by Ryan Weiss on Aug 4, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Not in the plan, Mr. Washburn.

Yikes. Need EJ to be on his game tomorrow.

by rook34 on Aug 4, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

oh well.

this sucks, but nobody’s perfect. I’ll give him another chance before I judge him.

by allikazoo on Aug 4, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

shrug

I try to go a little more easy judging tigers. want to love my boys

by allikazoo on Aug 4, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to Sunday's game

I hope that one is better for him

by murrajo on Aug 4, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

now in true Tigers fashion

They should come storming back to win for someone else so Washburn gets used to no-decisions and little run support. :)

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

All that negotiating made Ian sleepy

But it seems breathing makes Ian sleepy.

by NCDee on Aug 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Everett

You know I seem to always see him just missing or mucking up a play….have ya’ll seen him really dazzle?

by Flying J on Aug 4, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I have...

it’s dazzling amounts of FAIL.

by madpoopz on Aug 4, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it

but I had a bad feeling about this game.

by kendra.michelle on Aug 4, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

cracks like that make me happy I'm a brunette :)

I want that puppy on my lap. So cute!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria

by Baroque on Aug 4, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

well weve left 8 on base so far......

……Lets go fro double digits this inning guys!!!

by BennieBladesFan on Aug 4, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

ray's got some cute dimples going on

sorry, resorting to checking out the other team’s dudes

by allikazoo on Aug 4, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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