Pavanowned: Twins 11, Tigers 0
by Ian Casselberry on Aug 8, 2009 10:05 PM EDT
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PrintWell, that happened. And it wasn't pretty.
I'd love to hear an explanation for how Carl Pavano has been the bane of the Detroit Tigers' existence in the four times he's faced them this season. I'm not sure anyone has a good one. Certainly no one in the Tigers' lineup has any clue in the matter.
Detroit has scored five runs in 30.1 innings versus Pavano. By my math, that's a 1.50 ERA. Pavano came into this game with a 5.37 ERA and a record one game over .500. Yet against the Tigers, he's unbeatable. Literally. Maybe some of the sabermetricians out there will put this in numbers that perfectly explain Pavano's ownership of this team. (Against the rest of the league, he's 6-8 with a 6.16 ERA, according to Jason Beck.) Until then, this just boggles the mind.
And while the Tigers' hitters try to figure out how to beat Pavano, the pitching staff needs to work on a far better game plan for Denard Span. Because whatever's in that scouting report ought to be set on fire. Span went 5-for-5 tonight, adding to the .444/.479/.533 batting line he'd already compiled against Detroit this season. Joe Mauer also hit a home run for the second straight game, giving him 11 RBIs off Tigers pitching.
Detroit tries to get the series win tomorrow, with Jarrod Washburn looking to erase the memory of giving up six runs in his Tigers debut last Tuesday.
Comment of the Night:
They should just scrap Tigers Live after games like this.
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Damn Pavano can make a good living pitching against the Tigers . With the Tigers around he should be able to lower his era from over 5.35 to 3.00 and might win 20
by a stranger in town on Aug 8, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
well...
Looks like I picked a good game to miss. Loons won 10-2 on the strength of a five-run sixth inning involving THREE West Michigan pitchers. Chili Buss (center fielder) went 3 for 4 with a home run, 3 runs scored, and 4 RBI.
And I think one of the Loons players and Clete Thomas are soul mates – at least musically. Kyle Russell’s music is the theme song from Dukes of Hazard. :)
It was very muggy, though – the first thing I had to do when I got home was strip off my sticky clothes and get a cold lemonade. Good win for the home team, though.
(Squandering aplenty for West Michigan – Loons were 6 for 13 with RISP, and had 5 LOB: Whitecaps were 2 for 10 and LOB 10.)
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
Loons won last night 4-0 over West Michigan
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
pfft
Unless his name is Kershaw, most of these guys are liable to be traded multiple times before they actually make it – assuming they do. Doesn’t bother me at all.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
PLAYOFFS!!!!!111
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
I'm going on Monday night
And Tag may be, too. If anyone wants to, the Loons website has a link to the game radio broadcast (and so do the other minor league clubs as well – it’s actually a pretty nice feature).
Go here and once the game starts click on Audio (either in the little game window, or under the Multimedia tab near the top of the page) and scroll down to the Great Lakes Loons and click on the link next to the team name.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
didn't play this game
Starter was Luke Putkonen.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
A big reason was Pavano, but another
was the Twinkies fighting for their lives. You could tell this was almost do or die for them.
To fall 6.5 games back (and counting) would be near death. Now, with 4.5 games back
(and possibly 3.5 after tomorrow) there is some hope. Tigers on the other hand, are clearly not ready to run away with the central and be that elite team going 15 games over .500.
Wash going tomorrow and then tough test in Boston…we’ll see
Couldn't agree more
I really don’t know if there’s much more Verlander could’ve done. Twins were completely determined to win this game at all costs and the Tigers didn’t have the same sense of urgency. Tigers have to be sure not to let this loss get them down because taking two of three from this DESPERATE Twins team is very important.
Washburn, here’s your chance to prove yourself.
by B-Race Miles on Aug 8, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t call a picture dumb just because you didn’t get to go and you’re jealous. I wish I could have gone, too, but I’m glad he shared so many pictures and such with us.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
I only made the comment....
…..becasue he makes offensive comments to me all the time….Its just a lil payback……Hews ignorant and he proves it last night wit ha comment he made to me……Im not gona tyake that comments that are personal.
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 9, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, no.
Tag had a “field trip” (literally) last Monday. You can read about it here:
http://www.blessyouboys.com/2009/8/4/976906/whose-baez-danys-baez
Now I know you are unhappy about a comment toward you last night, and I agree it was uncalled for. But you need to get over it and move on. We have had a nice little community here and I would hate to see it devolve into something ugly.
Sometimes you drive me crazy with your comments, but I appreciate your enthusiasm and your loyalty to the team. We all have our moments that make us cringe in retrospect. Let’s be easier on each other here and just follow Leyland’s advice and Embrace the Race to the Pennant.
He made a ignorant coment
last night so this is payback…..I dont like idiots and he fits in that group….Personal attacks I wont take and thats what he did.
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 9, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So you like personal attacks?
I dont get it……Thats uncalled for and he should be banned
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 9, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody likes personal attacks
but he attacked you, you attacked him
that should call it even!
the internet… serious business.
You right....
….Im a bigger person then that…..i dont know why I didnt……Im 20 time the man he is……Im just gona keep my mouth shut.
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 9, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't make a habit of giving everyone troll-bites all the time
Isolated incidents should be forgiven once past. Both of you knock it off from now on and there is no issue.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
Yup.....
Except I hadnt made any comments towards him……he did it and tsrated it…..Your right……Ill just ignore him….Dont need to let someone thats a small person bring me down
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 9, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Bennie for God's sake
Read what I wrote. I agree it was uncalled for. But frankly when you’re beating it into the ground like this you’re not helping your case. You’ll notice the replies your getting have the same theme — LET IT GO. Forget the “he said it first” thing or I’m going to turn this car around right now!!!
I let it go.....
…..im just ignoring him form now on
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 9, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Bennie, ENOUGH
This pissing match is over. Got it?
by Kurt Mensching on Aug 9, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
lol at mom voice
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
Ah No.....
…….Im just gona leave the group……99% of ya are cool…..Just one ignorant dummy ruins it
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 9, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
How do I make that cool infinity symbol?
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
Can you imagine how much uglier this series would be if Crede wasn't injured?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
It would have been 17-0 instead of 11-0?
From the comments, it seems that Mauer and the Span-monster wreaked several different kinds of havoc.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
Span had 5 hits...
Two of them were infield singles. He also ran down what appeared to be a double for Brandon Inge in the ninth (No diving play or anything, just speed). Not that it would’ve changed the outcome, but Brandon could’ve used the double.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 8, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
not making an excuse, we were awful...
But the umpiring has been abysmal this series. In particular, you could notice at the gane that gardys balk nonsense from last night carried over to tonight. At the game, you could hear him barking from the dugout. I think it got to the umps and to jv. Personally, I wish jv would have just buzzed mauers tower to shut up gardy. The guy is a great skip but he’s on the umps gun to gun. Bully. Haven’t seen the tape but it appeared the crew butchered a number of calls both ways tonight as they did last night.
by rook34 on Aug 8, 2009 11:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, I missed the backstory on the balk argument...
I was at work when Gardenhire was ejected, so I have no idea what happened. Speaking of work, that is where I shall be tomorrow, so it’s highly unlikely that I’ll be able to see any of tomorrow’s game. I will likely join you all on Monday for the opener of the Boston series. Maybe I’ll be more fired up than usual, because I hate the Red Sox.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 9, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
after 3 (I think it was 3?) of our guys got plunked
I did not understand why we didn’t do SOMETHING about it.
leyland does not seem to like to throw at guys..
But after the three who got drilled tonight and gardys bizarre behavior all series, I’d be shocked if no one gets buzzed tomorrow.
by rook34 on Aug 9, 2009 12:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
He did have Zach Miner throw behind Ian Kinsler in Texas
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Aug 9, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
lambert
should be demoted to t-ball
but in his favor, he nearly emulated Verlander’s line, LOL
Stil should be....
…Dolsi era was under 1 witrh tigs……Rather see him
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 9, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
how?
i can,t believe this guy passed waivers?how did gm dombroski miss this one.didn,t he have to clear waivers first,why didn,t we see this comming ?
gerald mallory
Waiver rules
Quick recap of waiver rules… It was written in ‘04, but I’m guessing they still apply.
Regarding Pavano, “If a player is claimed by more than one team, the club with the worst record in that player’s league gets priority — and the player can be traded only to that team.” If DD put a claim in for Pavano, it wouldn’t have mattered. The Twins would still be the only team able to acquire him.
Maybe he's napping?
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
Either that or we'll just keep rambling on here. :)
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
I was thinking 3:00
But that is when the Loons game starts this afternoon, not the Tigers.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
concur with this sentiment
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
I just checked for you
Ian set the autopublish for 1.
by Kurt Mensching on Aug 9, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
SPEED TYPING!!!
It will tax our interweb abilities to the limit!
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
tick ... tick ... tick ... tick ... tick
Let’s see if Ian hits his snooze alarm – or maybe he’s running some errands and got caught in line behind one of those people puzzled by the existence of a “bar code.”
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
Washburn shuts em down today.....
……Hes gona need to since we will only score a couple runs
by BennieBladesFan on Aug 9, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
Binge to discuss the 'stache on Tigers Live!
I’m anxious to hear what he has to say about this.
by kendra.michelle on Aug 9, 2009 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
quick! Must comment like mad! :D
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle." -- Philo of Alexandria
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