Game 131: Indians at Tigers
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 1, 2009 6:00 PM EDT
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PrintCleveland Indians at Detroit Tigers, Sep 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Carlos Carrasco (0-0, -.--) vs. 
Edwin Jackson (10-6, 2.96), 7:05 p.m. EST
After splitting a four-game series with the defending AL champion Rays, the Tigers welcome the fourth-place Indians to town. But the Tribe hasn't been playing like a fourth-place team lately, going 15-12 in August.
Carlos Carrasco makes his major league debut tonight for the Indians. He was one of the prospects received in exchange for Cliff Lee, considered at one point by the Phillies to be their untouchable top minor leaguer. What can be expected from Carrasco tonight? His fastball averages around the low-90s, but it's used mainly to set up his change-up, which is considered his best pitch. Carrasco also mixes in a slider. Here's a detailed scouting report from last year, if you're interested.
Edwin Jackson was knocked around by the Angels in his last start, giving up four runs and eight hits over six innings. He also struggled with his control, issuing four walks. Perhaps Jackson was affected by 97-degree temperatures in Anaheim. But had the Tigers been able to generate some offense - an all-too-familiar problem this season - he might not have taken a loss. In three starts against the Indians this season, Jackson has a 2-0 record and 1.50 ERA. The last time he faced the Tribe, however, he lasted only four innings.
Magglio Ordonez and Adam Everett are back in the lineup for the Tigers. And though Jim Leyland hinted Aubrey Huff might be getting a couple days off, he's the designated hitter this evening.
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That isn't very optimistic.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I know it's hard.
I sympathize with your struggles.
Despite everything, the team is still (miraculously?) in first place, though. A lot of other teams would love to be in that position.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
This lineup would look so much better
with Thomas in left field and Guillen at DH. Thomas is even 3 for 11 off Carrasco on the minors.
i honestly don't think it's a better team this year
but i still think we have a chance to go to the world series.
I Like Pie
I don't think it's better either
but I do think the pitching is better. Defense (as it currently takes the field) may be a push, and offense is worse.
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
With Edwin and JV we have a chance in the postseason.
That’s all we can ask for should we make it to the playoffs.
However tonight Carlos Carrasco is going to pitch a gem so we should try to enjoy admiring his amazing performance for the Indians.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=carras002car
Stats for Carrasco not that impressive. 1HR/9 on the year.. 4.64 ERA .. 8.5 K/9 not bad but not mindblowing..
OH GOD I’M PULLING AN IAN
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
He’s an INCREDIBLE pitcher, and he will throw a perfect game in less than 75 pitches. It will be history-making!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
if we don't score before the fifth inning
i’m SIEVE-ing you. kurt may know what i’m talking about
I Like Pie
hahaha
of course I do. I’ve been around college hockey for 10 years!
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
question
is it bad that one of my bass drum rookies is amazingly hot and i check her out even though i have a girlfriend?
I Like Pie
depends
Do you care if she eyeballs cute guys? No double standards. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
she doesn't flirt with other guys much
in person. she roleplays online sometimes and i don’t read those because i do flirt with tons of girls.
what matters is who i spend the night with, and it’s her.
I Like Pie
you doing anything besides checking her out?
by rook34 on Sep 1, 2009 7:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
because if you are, dump your girlfriend first
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
And not in a quarry.
Because it gets messy and… wait, I think all those Law & Order episodes have rotted my brain.
even though my buddies used to call me "james bond"
no, i just met her today. and i haven’t cheated on a girlfriend in a LONG time
I Like Pie
it's human to look
beauty is beauty, you’r hardwired to at least glance.
But if anything goes on in your head after the look, then you gotta have a conversation with yourself about why.
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm out for a bit.
Hope to be back around the sixth inning unless I get distracted.
Go Tigers!
Go Placido!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
oh for gods sake....
Here we go again. Can we not post a zero?
by rook34 on Sep 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
these first innings
Are just killing me.
by rook34 on Sep 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I can't help myself.
I love Shin-Soo-Choo. DD, please gain his services because he makes my heart go pitter-patter.
Sometimes I ask myself why I am a Tigers fan.
Then I remember I could be a Lions fan and feel better.
I have to leave for a bit soon
I’m pretty sure it won’t jinx anything though, luck doesn’t seem to have everything to do with what is happening so far
sometimes it works and opens up a hitting lane
sometimes it doesn’t. I don’t really fault him there.
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
massively bad road trip for them
so past week or so
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
They fell when Ozzie Guillen began handing out his self taken boudoir photos for good performances.
Just didn’t go as well as planned for Ozzie.
Tacos!
And um, it’s because the Tigers are doing well and people are resting on their floating platforms and admiring their carbonite frozen Han Solos.
I don't have the makings for tacos
which is rare.. but I was out of town then broke and today too lazy to go to the store. I’m going to have to get creative or order pizza
I have U-verse and like it
But the U-verse commercials are terrible..
Why doesn’t the guy that has the crappy cable just go to the other guys house more often?
I was wondering how you always knew what was going on in pregame
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
it's the cheapest tv option around here
might wanna look into it next season, if comcast doesn’t have FSD. it’s not available everywhere though
I do enjoy the fact huff is trying the high socks for luck
I assume that’s why anyway. brandon is a good influence
I come back from teaching and find out that...
Miggy has an SB, Huff has 3 RBIs, Polanco & Guillen hit back to back HRs and Edwin is back to his nasty self. in short, HELL YEAH!
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Sep 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Sorry, ladies and gentlemen.
I just had to. See above for context.
by StringTheory on Sep 1, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just got in.
Looks like I missed the fun part.
I'm hittin' .361, don't y'all mess with me.
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 1, 2009 8:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
For all you kids watching at home
That is not how you try to throw out a runner from the outfield.
You wanna actually have the ball in your hand when you take it from the glove.
That sucked,
Only 1/2 inning I catch and we give up 3.
I'm hittin' .361, don't y'all mess with me.
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
with those corner outfielders, I wouldn't be happy either
but his pitch count was pretty high from the start
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha ha!
Yahoo! forgot to turn off the live feed of WXYT that is linked on the Tigers live box score.
by Todd Jones Save Manual on Sep 1, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
Jackson's glowering.
I'm hittin' .361, don't y'all mess with me.
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 1, 2009 9:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
When Leyland calls him
Expectations run low
And frustration soars high
But the outs won’t come
And we are biting our nails
Watching the lead blown
Zach, Zach will tear out our hearts again
I'm somewhat worried
Maybe we can skip him next time through? Give him a break? He’s coming up on his career high for innings
Yes, yes Joy Division is a band.
Then, after their lead singer committed suicide they became New Order!
I dare someone in the Tigers dugout
to walk up to Edwin and say, “Why the long face, buddy? Turn that frown upside down.”
Okay
Left my meeting and they were ahead 8 – 1
Listened in the car and Cleveland scored 3
Got home and turned on computer and Cleveland scored another 1
Is someone trying to tell me something?
Settle down, both of ya.
It was a church meeting. Only church in town that sends its minister out on a beer run.
that's a beautiful thing
my pastor came to my confirmation party at my house when i was in 7th grade and yelled at us 30 seconds after he walked through the door cuz no one offered him a beer yet. it was great.
Migs needs to pop one
I'm hittin' .361, don't y'all mess with me.
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 1, 2009 9:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I also feel dirty rooting for the White Sox...
…but I’m sure that the GIs were rooting for Stalin a little bit during World War II.
by Todd Jones Save Manual on Sep 1, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
as soon as they wheels-up in minnesota
we can continue enjoying their demise
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The Twins are starting a guy named Manship...
Hee hee hee…
by Todd Jones Save Manual on Sep 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
Nice job, Bobby C
I'm hittin' .361, don't y'all mess with me.
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 1, 2009 9:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I ate half the pizza.
ugghhh
and this is when the game is going okay.. I need therapy for emotional eating
Hello
Just got home from work. I listened to the radio on the way home. Dan and Jim were more interested in discussing the 1967 pennant chase than the game in front of them.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
that is truly why jim annoys me as an announcer
You’d think there was no baseball after 1968
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
but Dickerson is great … no? Whenever I listen he tries to throw in some basic sabermetrics like BABIP and zone rating and then explains then real simple like. Anyways talkin bout the 67 team sounds like a Price tangent that Dickerson just humours. …
I like Dickerson
I was glad when he got 9 innings of PBP instead of taking the middle 3 off. Ugh those were awful with Jim doing pbp
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I realized just how much I missed Dan Dickerson when he was out with that injury
Jim Price sucked at PBP
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 1, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay for the Rangers
Boo for the Twins
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 1, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
off topic, blue jays
I like how tallet wears the stirrups with the flood pants. esp in that black/grey uniform
I would if it hadn't involved grady.
I gotta say though, I don’t need anymore brawls after the boston one. that definitely satiated the need.
if you gotta update, you gotta update
let it all out!
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Jamey Carroll has been an absolute pain in the you-know-what for the Tigers
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
Rodney w/ a 3 run lead. Yikes!!!
I'm hittin' .361, don't y'all mess with me.
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 1, 2009 9:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hahahahaha
The Braves and Marlins are in Miami and they are JUST getting started. Not quite that Tigers-Yankees game that ended at 3:30 in the morning a couple years ago, but what is?
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
I still remember how awesome that walkoff off
as probably one of the few people awake!
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I stayed up for the whole thing
I was really punchy by the end. It was already a weird game, because Rod was sick and they had Dan Petry doing color analysis. The west coast would’ve been proud of that game. But Guillen’s comment about his walkoff still makes me laugh: “That was the first time I ever hit a home run at 3:30 in the morning.”
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 1, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I got off work at 1 a.m.
so I was just happy there was still a game to watch!
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
so put your hands in the air
and wave em like you just don’t care!
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 1, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
what the deuce everett?
why didn’t you turn the double play? it looked like polanco was going to make it back on time
I Like Pie
Rodney with 30 saves
Who’d’ve thunk it?
And who had a mohawk? I wasn’t looking.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
All the scoring happened while I was at work
I feel like I’ve just finished watching a tense pitching duel
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
Oh, dear
They’re interviewing Rodney on the radio. This oughta be interesting.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
I don't have many of those
JV is perfectly rational.
Maybe a little one on Kurt Suzuki. I like Asian boys and catchers.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 1, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a Twins meltdown.
AJ reaches on a strikeout. Nobody down. Ozzie makes a rare sensible move and pinch runs Wise.
Afterglow!
Recap up later on. In the meantime, you can take your Twins-White Sox talk over there.
Game 131 Afterglow Thread
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 1, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
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