Game 146: Royals at Tigers
Kansas City Royals at Detroit Tigers, Sep 17, 2009 1:05 PM EDT
Zack Greinke (13-8, 2.19) vs.
Edwin Jackson (12-6, 3.22), 1:05 p.m. EST
I'm usually a fan of day games (especially when skipping out on work or school during the week to catch a ballgame), but this time around, I wish we had a little more time to reflect on last night. Personally, I feel like I'm trying to catch up. But the games go on, the schedule doesn't stop. And so we must follow.
Zack Greinke hasn't lost in his past four starts (though only got the win in two of them), allowing only three earned runs 32 innings. (That's an 0.84 ERA.) He's been the odds-on favorite for the AL Cy Young Award all season, but is definitely making a push to help his candidacy.
The last time he pitched against Detroit, Greinke pitched seven shutout innings, giving up just three hits. That's the kind of performance that has many fans cringing over the Tigers' chances today. However, Detroit is 2-2 in games versus Greinke this season, so facing him is not a lost cause.
Edwin Jackson hasn't lost in his past three starts, though he isn't exactly asserting himself over the game the way Greinke is. He was actually pretty fortunate to escape with a no-decision in his last start, as he squandered most of a three-run lead by suddenly serving up two late-inning home run balls to the Blue Jays. Jackson has faced the Royals twice this season, posting a 1-1 record and 3.65 ERA.
One notable lineup change today: Don Kelly starts in right field, presumably over Clete Thomas. Alex Avila starts at catcher, despite Gerald Laird batting .353 against Greinke. Aubrey Huff has a .316 average with three RBIs versus Greinke, as well.
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We're moving a bit slow this morning
(now afternoon)
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 17, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
at least not for the same reasons ;)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Starting Lineups
ROYALS
1. Willie Bloomquist RF
2. Mitch Maier LF
3. Billy Butler 1B
4. Mike Jacobs DH
5. Alberto Callaspo 2B
6. Miguel Olivo C
7. Alex Gordon 3B
8. Yuniesky Betancourt SS
9. Josh Anderson CF
TIGERS
1. Curtis Granderson CF
2. Placido Polanco 2B
3. Carlos Guillen LF
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Aubrey Huff DH
6. Alex Avila C
7. Don Kelly RF
8. Brandon Inge 3B
9. Ramon Santiago SS
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 17, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
*sigh*
I forget how it felt to be super-confident when Jackson was pitching. He’s slipped to the 4th starter I thought we were getting.
I forgot it was a day game
Not that it matters – as I can’t really keep up with it at work, anyway.
It helps to be able to check in here and see if there is a collective “wheeeeee!!!!!” or “arblefarble#$&%$#,” though. :)
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What happened?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
He made a bad decision to try to get the force at second.
The ground ball was way too slow for that.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad throw, or did Bloomquist just plain beat it out?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Bloomquist beat it out. He fielded it cleanly and made a good throw.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi guys
I’ll be here for the next 45 minutes or so and then I have to go to lab. Believe me, I’d much rather be watching the game.
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I'm trying to follow with a combination of Gameday and Gameday Audio
You don’t realize how much you miss Mario and Rod until you don’t have them.
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So what are you saying?
“He plays the game the right way”?
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Alberto Callaspo: newest Tiger Killer?
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Considering he's hitting .297 right now, I would have to think he's hitting someone else, too.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Ok, let me revise that: 1st inning tiger killer, what with the home run on Tuesday, and now the double.
5 rbi in this series, compared to 65 on the season.
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Funny thing, he's hitting only .267 against the Tigers
But 4 of his ten bombs have come against us
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So are those unearned runs?
Or just Butler’s?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Got me a big ol' Mountain Dew to keep me awake
Going to try to follow this thread though my office computer doesn’t like it.
Isn't ONE enough for Zack on any given day?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i am going to be really glad
To see these bastards leave town.
by rook34 on Sep 17, 2009 1:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I never found Zack that attractive
There’s a touch of baby-faced evilness about him.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That top half of the first inning lasted WAY too long
I’ll be cut off from all forms of communication with this game at 2:00.
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Are the boys just gonna watch fastballs all day?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it just Carlos, or everyone?
Dan and Jim are making it sound like it’s everyone.
Carlos tends to not pull them up very far, though.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
But with Miggy it's a bad thing.
And it drives me crazy that I can’t pick up his pattern with that, yet.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm outta here..
..everytime I join in the fun, we play like crap. i’m a jinx
Can I take this opportunity to say that I have the most screwed-up perception of Zack Greinke ever?
I didn’t see him at all in ’05 or ’06. The very first time I saw him was in April of ’07. Pudge hit a grand slam off him and he only went two-thirds of an inning cuz he threw 50 pitches. The next time I saw him, the Tigers hit three two-run homers off him in the second inning. Therefore, every time I see him nowadays, I instinctually get mystified as to why the Tigers can score runs off him.
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That happens but watching him pitch and dominate should be an indicator you saw some uncommon occurances.
I keep trying to tell myself that
But it doesn’t work.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
that....
Was one poor first inning. As I did last night, heading out. I am a jinx too.
by rook34 on Sep 17, 2009 1:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I should leave too...it'd be much better for the work productivity...
but, dagnabit, it’s the pennant chase…yeah…
I’ll just check in once or twice…per inning…
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Carlos is totally blowing the minds of Dan & Jim right now
They keep saying they can’t recognize him.
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In about 15 minutes I get to counsel TAs pretending to be patients on their medications
Can someone say “awkward?”
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
They seem to be for the Cy Young voting
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, he hasn't impressed me much.
His Olivo comment yesterday about MO catching 7 out of KC’s 8 shut outs sealed the deal for me.
I take it you question Olivo's game-calling ability?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
A catcher's influence on a shut out is questionable at best.
I love catchers but their influence on outcomes is minuscule at best.
Rightfully so.
Two of the called thirds have been ridiculous.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
All we can hope for is that EJ gets that call later
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You think our boys oughta try hitting the ball the other way?
After all, with the exception of Polanco, Gameday has indicated just about everything Greinke has thrown has been away.
Of course, it would help if they would stop taking called third strikes.
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Whose?
Greinke’s or Avila’s?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Greinke.
The umpire is giving him a bit more strike zone, which happens (look at Atlanta’s big 3 during the 90s).
I was 12 years old when the Braves won the World Series
So I hadn’t really learned the concept of pitcher reputation. And I HATED the Braves back then, so really I thought any call in their favor was a bad call.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 17, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Wish me luck
I’m off to patient counseling lab, and with my, well, introverted tendencies, I can’t imagine I’ll find it easy. If the game is still on when I get out, I’ll rejoin you.
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game over.
don’t want to be a negative ned, but with greinke on the mound, we ain’t getting 5, see ya next game. I have classs anyways too
+1
Where’s D-Train when you need him?
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
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we are a complete and total mess.
What a letdown after last night. All we do is give up extra base hits.
by rook34 on Sep 17, 2009 1:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Far bet it for me to lecture Leyland
But shouldn’t we be more worried about baserunners as opposed to fancy little tactics to get RISP at this point?
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Normally I would be annoyed.
But we’re not going to score any runs in this game anyways, so whatever.
You could be right
Although taking a conservative approach against Greinke hasn’t exactly worked. Just trying to get something going by getting the runners moving?
by Detroit4lyfe on Sep 17, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely agree
Why are we risking baserunners right now when we’re down 5 in the 3rd inning? We’re not making much contact off Grienke to begin with, so why increase the risk of outs?
The more you know
those were the ads they ran on saturday mornings on NBC, right?
by Detroit4lyfe on Sep 17, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
They're on NBC, yes.
I think they run all the time.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully it will change soon
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to be an optimist
1 strikeout per inning with only one walk and one HR isn’t a horrible start… Jackson just seems to be getting unlucky.
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And they were swinging K's
His stuff is still fooling hitters.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Keep his innings down, but he’s not pitching as poorly as in his last starts.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a Catch-22
Do you tap your bullpen or force your starter to keep going when he’s had quite the workload over the season.
Wait, no, you make Jarrod Washburn pitch more so he goes away. (irrational dislike of Washburn moment).
Comebacker?
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Lucky break?
No pun intended…
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Pull him from the game for one
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Ali may have some ideas as well...
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess they meant you had to start your career as a Tiger.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
5 innings to go...something weird could happen...
But I don’t think ej was ever going to beat zack today. Maybe the change of scenery will sharpen these guys and we will be a different team at the dome. Maybe.
by rook34 on Sep 17, 2009 2:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Am i the only one...
That fears our pitching staff is slumping at the absolute worst time?
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
Regression to the mean sucks
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Wird...
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
by moonshineboy on Sep 17, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It does
Insofar as we’re destined to regress to the mean of wins we’d earn with that third-order record.
In essence, we’ve been getting lucky, and that’ll eventually come back to bite us.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don't see the point in constantly talking about this supposed
IMPENDING DOOM
while we’re still up at least 4 games. we are going to lose a few before the end of the season. there is no point in being so negative all the time
Eh
We’ll probably (hopefully) be fine this year, but the regression could hit us next year (teams often underperform after years they’ve over performed) or it could be a rollover from bad luck in 06-08 (when we were like 3-4 games behind on our Pythagorean expected wins per year).
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny...
I’m just saying that it could be the case. I’m not a particularly bright stathead, so don’t ask me.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I have supreme confidence we'll win the division too.
But stats, positive or negative, are half the reason I love baseball.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Junior
Communication/Pol Science major.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I did not
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah darn
He’s in AA with the Mets now. I played him twice in high school and at Wake twice. http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=446337
by Detroit4lyfe on Sep 17, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny
B/c a lot of the baseball players are Comm majors- I’m in a class with Phil Negus (he got drafted last year by the ChiSox) this year.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
In addition,
we’ve allowed 666 runs. Doom, doom, doom! (Shouts hysterically).
… Sorry. Losing 5 out of the last 6 to the Royals ruins the mind.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
I blame Captain Kangaroo because if his show wasnt so damned entertaining I could have learned more and maybe left this country from time to time and learned how to enjoy other sports like curling, sailing, and water polo. Eh who am I kidding I love baseball and this just hurts to watch.
He'll find some way to run into a CS or a DP
Even with the bases loaded.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He only does that in a Tigers uniform...
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
by moonshineboy on Sep 17, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Was that from the ACORN video?
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by David Tokarz on Sep 17, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's pretty old.
OT: I’ve never seen MSNBC, Fox, and the Daily Show ever agree on anything before. But the Acorn videos did it.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I thought everyone was being far too negative
But I might have to re-assess that after Josh Anderson goes deep.
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 17, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
How is this for being far to negative
We have now given up more runs on the season then we have scored!
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he's gotta have 16 or 17 HRs this year...
Right?
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
Or 1
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
by moonshineboy on Sep 17, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I'm done
gonna go enjoy the last hour before convocation crying over a piece of chocolate cake.
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A week ago I would have asked
what is there to say this late in the year, but now I believe Jimmy needs an epic rant to get through to these guys.
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No getting out this one Galarraga
You started it, you finish it!
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously, why let him off the hook?
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
its one thing to lose.
Its another thing entirely to not be competitive. I do not see how this team can get to the finish line in first. We are doing nothing but giving up bombs and doubles.
by rook34 on Sep 17, 2009 2:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So is Figaro not starting this weekend?
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions
Rod said Robertson's bullpen session went well,
so he’ll probably be back in the rotation.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
You know
that actually counts as good enough news to make me feel comfortable knowing that I am still following this turd of a game.
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it too early to start a post-game thread of shame?
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
I see this game is still sucking monkey butt
Glad work kept me away for the majority, then.
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Greinke's gone
and ESPN is only saying the Royals have a 99% chance of still winning. There is always hope.
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay,
we had a 10 spot against the Royals and an 11 against the Rangers.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminiscing
About days gone by when a game like this was all about watching the calls and feeling good when I guy like Figaro can come in, get two outs and strand 3 runners and think to myself, I wonder if he’ll make the team next spring. As much as this game sucks, I would rather be where we are today (lamenting that as a division leader we are getting crushed by the Royals) then back there.
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
It's wake up time
atleast for MIggy
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
You're right on both counts :(
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Is it too late for an Avila for ROY campaign?
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
Is there a reason...
KC lifted Greinke? He only threw about 80 pitches…
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
Miggy hit a line drive off his elbow.
He was just in there for 5 to get the win.
by StringTheory on Sep 17, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
by moonshineboy on Sep 17, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
mercy
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't say, but I wouldn't be surprised if his arm was bothering him or swelling.
And the game is over, and his health is fairly important to them.
There is no excuse for going 9-9 against KC on the year, particularly when you drop 6 of the last 7, but the fact remains that the Twins have to sweep the Tigers next series for the series to mean anything. Gaining one game in a three day span just isn’t good enough this late in the year.
So as disgraceful as this homestand was, the sky in fact is not falling yet.
Fransworth is in
Get him!
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
Likes-To-Fight Guy...
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
by moonshineboy on Sep 17, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
There are very few former Tigers I like less than that man
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Game 1
Game 1 of next series is key. I like our chances in game 2 with Verlander. So perhaps if we can win tomorrow night, we can take 2 of 3 and just about put the Twinkies away for the year.
A lifelong Tigers fan
Game 2
we face Pavano … so help me I will not sleep for a week if he beats us again.
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the sky is not falling
but what bothers me is we are doing barely enought to get by. We are showing ourselves to be a C- team in a D- division. My fondest wish is we beat the Yankees in the division playoffs. I don’t care what happens after that. But we’re not going to do that with this kind of lackluster play.
Of course, the Yankees have been having a few problems of their own lately, too : )
If this score holds
our plus/minus on the year will be +1 … that seems like the definition of a mediocore team. I just want a division title. I think we could beat the Yankees but I won’t be dissappointed in this season if we lose to them so long as we win the division title.
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Doomsayers - think on this:
The ’06 Cards finished 5 games over .500 & lost 9 of their last 12 going into the playoffs…
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I don't know. It's fun, though...
+1
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The playoffs are a different beast all together.
Throw out the regular season because the post season isn’t about the long view.
If...
Verlander & Jackson are right & Porcello can give us his typical 6 decent innings, i like our chances…
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I don't know. It's fun, though...
by moonshineboy on Sep 17, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
With what Detroit's starters are capable of I like our chances.
But should Jackson’s return to earth be a portend of how he’ll work I’m a bit unsure of how we’ll fair.
First, though, we need to get to the playoffs.
& only scored 19 more runs than they gave up...
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
by moonshineboy on Sep 17, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Granderson...
Something needs to change. He has only two 2 hit games this month, and only 6 last month. That’s not good enough for a leadoff hitter, no matter how many home runs he can hit. Also, he doesn’t take enough walks to balance it out either.
Ryan Raburn will need to be used more. He’s hitting .280 with 12 homers in 231 ABs.
Granderson has 555 ABs with 27 homers. Simple math with just rounding shows Raburn to have 24 in 460 ABs. Even with giving him a “slump” and having him use 500 ABs to say that he’s overachieving, the average and OB% is good enough.
Either way, I think we need to figure out a way to get Raburn into the game more.
Ok then...
At least we figured out Figaro wasn’t ready for a start BEFORE letting him start again. Jimmy won’t throw him out there if he’s walking people like that.
A lifelong Tigers fan
Just about everybody
Greinke, Bloomquist and Farnsworth all have something wrong with them. I know Greinke got hit by a comeback to the mound but I haven’t been paying enough attention to give you any details on the other two. Just heard the names mentioned.
I can take losing 9-2
but seeing Fransworth cruise through Polanco, Gullien and Miggy is too much.
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 3:56 PM EDT reply actions
Does Soria do as well as Rodney
in non-save situations? Here’s hoping.
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
So I forgot we had a day game today
I played MLB The Show ’09 all day and took the Tigers to a Game 1 win against the Yanks in the ALDS…. That was a lot more fun than this is
And it's off to Minnesota
maybe for punishment Jim should make the team watch this game on the way to Minnesota. That may get the point across that we need to improve our play better than a rant.
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by tigerfaninChicago on Sep 17, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
we are way past the time of ranting.
Jim would just be wasting breath. For whatever reason,we caught the royals at the right time and they caught us at the right time. We have our problems, but so do the twins. I have a terrible feeling about the rest of the year-our splits lately are horrifying. Then again, ej had his moments today, he just made a couple of awful pitches and we weren’t beating grienke anyway. Baseball is impossible to predict, which is good for us, since from a fans perspective, it looks bad right now. Good thing players handle this much better than fans.
by rook34 on Sep 17, 2009 4:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How fitting
To end our KC series by leaving the bases loaded.
It’s ok though. We just need to go take care of business this weekend.
Go Tigers!
A lifelong Tigers fan
Statistical note
The Tigers now have a Pythagorean record of precisely .500. 670 runs scored, 670 runs allowed.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/
Cheer for The Only Colors: Green and White!
by KJ@theonlycolors on Sep 17, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
Into exile I must go...
Today’s final lines indicate that. I will accept my sentence with dignity, but I would gladly give up three-run homers so that EJ and AG don’t have to. I shall return sometime during tomorrow night’s game, but it will be lonely without you guys.

http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
well ...
This was certainly more “arblefarble” than “wheeeee!”
The Royals are the Tigers’ kryptonite. :(
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

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