Squeeze Out Another Win: Tigers 3, Indians 1
On paper (and in the boxscore), this one almost looked pretty. Edwin Jackson pitched seven shutout innings, and the Detroit Tigers' lineup provided just enough offense with three runs.
Look a bit closer, however, and you see that Jackson gave up seven hits and three walks. Four of those hits were in his first two innings, as he had trouble throwing first-pitch strikes and quickly fell behind the Indians' hitters. Maybe it was a case of Jackson getting used to his new, no-pitch-tipping delivery.
But Jackson eventually found his groove, and the Indians never really threatened to tie the game, despite the Tigers holding a narrow 1-0 lead. (Their best chance was in the bottom of the seventh, with two runners on, but Jackson struck out Trevor Crowe to end the threat.)
Detroit eventually added some insurance runs in the eighth, thanks to an RBI double from Miguel Cabrera and sacrifice fly from Marcus Thames. But the game got pretty tight, thanks largely to a tight strike zone from home plate umpire Paul Schreiber. (Hey, haven't the Tigers had trouble with that guy before? Yes, they have.)
Bobby Seay and Brandon Lyon (Seay-Lyon!) loaded the bases on two singles and a walk. And with the bases full, Lyon walked Jamey Carroll, ruining the Tigers' shutout. But if you look at Gameday, you can see that Schreiber's strike zone was ridiculous. A fastball virtually down the middle was called a ball (here's a screen shot), as was an inside fastball that drew the walk.
(Here's further evidence of Schreiber's strike zone from Brooks Baseball, via The Detroit Tigers Weblog.)
But Lyon eventually struck out Luis Valbuena to get out of the jam, and Fernando Rodney pitched an impressively efficient ninth inning (10 pitches, eight strikes) to close out a game that could've turned ugly in so many ways.
If the Indians were a better team right now, they may well have won this game. (They knocked out 10 hits and left 10 runners on base.) And it's something of a disappointment that the Tigers' lineup didn't score more runs off Aaron Laffey, who was a punching bag in his previous two starts and gave Detroit 10 baserunners in this game.
But right now, any win - no matter how it comes about - is crucial (especially when the Twins won, as well).
Roar:
Against left-handed pitching, does it not seem like Ryan Raburn is the Tigers' only source of offense? He gave Jackson the lead he needed with a solo homer in the third inning. And shortly before that, Raburn ended the second inning by throwing Matt LaPorta out at home plate.
I've brought this up a couple of times now (including last night's Afterglow), but I'll keep beating this drum. (Sorry, that's on the mind after another night of incessant pounding from Cleveland.) Raburn needs to be the Tigers' full-time left fielder right now. (Worry about next season next year.)
Comment of the Night:
It would be fitting if Illitch paid Maggs in singles
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how about a little purr...
for Magg’s 4-4 nite?
by peazgrl on Sep 23, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Purr Singlio Purr...
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
by moonshineboy on Sep 23, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No coffee yet.
err, my bad. box score says 3-3. too much beer last nite, too little coffee this morning.
by peazgrl on Sep 23, 2009 9:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FYI - today's dugout features Binge's tattoos
by allikazoo on Sep 23, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AND HOLY SHIT
it features the photo I took?!?!?!
by allikazoo on Sep 23, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The least they could have done is link to the flickr image
and not their own blog.
by StringTheory on Sep 23, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they credit getty images.
ugh, Ian, help?
by allikazoo on Sep 23, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jerks
no linkage for alli.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
by madpoopz on Sep 23, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was the one I took, too?
Either way, a link should have been in order to one of us
by Detroit4lyfe on Sep 23, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is the post I put up during the game with that same photo. I’d be just as happy if Alli gets the link, though.
by Detroit4lyfe on Sep 23, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't read down... I see your image now Alli
They used my screenshot too without linkage
by Detroit4lyfe on Sep 23, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i dunno what their deal is
I haven’t talked to Ian since he said he would try to help me, so I haven’t contacted them yet.
by allikazoo on Sep 23, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raburn needs to be the Tigers' full-time left fielder right now
No
Raburn’s OPS vs. RHP is .736. Guillen’s OPS vs. RHP is .784.
Yes Guillen is struggling so far in September, but there is no indication in Raburn’s numbers that he would do better. Guillen’s triple Sunday has been overlooked as being the spark that ignited the offense in a win that may have saved the season. Guillen has been a clutch performer at key points in the season and I expect a big final week and a half from him if the Tigers are to hang on and win the division.
by 63 Tiger on Sep 23, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So how about playing Raburn in left and Guillen at DH?
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 23, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's exactly what I was going say Ian...
but you stole my thought.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
by madpoopz on Sep 23, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guillen
Last home run: Sept. 1
Before Sunday, last extra-base hit was Sept. 9.
Obviously, since he doesn’t play every day, that’s a bit unfair. But outside his 4-for-5 day with two home runs Aug. 31, he just hasn’t done much of anything. As bad as Huff has looked, he’s been statistically the same or better than Guillen since being acquired.
Sunday’s triple was obviously a big bit, but he’s not the only Tiger who has had big hits lead to wins lately, either.
I’ll keep Raburn in the lineup and let the others fight it out as DH.
by MackAveKurt on Sep 23, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't done much of anything?
Since his return
July OPS .911, August OPS .896, RBI since return in 150 AB – 28 (same as Cabrera).
by 63 Tiger on Sep 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the argument is that Raburn has been hot now...
and now is more important. And to be honest, I trust Raburn more in left than I do Guillen. Guillen can DH.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
by madpoopz on Sep 23, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you seem to have left out September
by MackAveKurt on Sep 23, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You left out every game except 8/31. The 28 RBIs in 150 AB included September
by 63 Tiger on Sep 23, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you missed the point
I said exactly this: He has not been a good hitter since August. Players change. Situations change. We could talk about how awesome Porcello was in May and Washburn was in July, but what’s that tell us about what happens the rest of the year?
by MackAveKurt on Sep 23, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you are missing the big picture
Realize that you are basing all this on a 2 week period from 09/06 through 09/19 when he had 2 hits in 22 AB. A very small sample size. I guess you would of benched Pujols back in June when he went 2 for 22.
by 63 Tiger on Sep 23, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guillen is not Albert Pujols. Don’t even try to debate like that! Not worth my time
by MackAveKurt on Sep 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only 5 of those RBI's have come in September...
and his average from the end of august til now has gone from .279 to .238. Big difference there.
and heres Raburns numbers.
July OPS: .688 August: .957 Sept: 1.039
July AVG: .236 August: .327 Sept: .326
Besides July Raburns had a higher average and higher OPS. All in approximately the same amount of AB’s. Guillen had a hot August, no doubt about it. But since than he’s been slumping and Ryan has not. Guillen can fight for AB’s in the DH slot so we don’t lose his clutch bat. Raburn has earned a shot to play everyday in left and he should get it.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
by madpoopz on Sep 23, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on past performance nothing that Raburn has done recently against LHP indicates that he will do the same against RHP.
And Guillen’s average “did not” drop from .279 to .238 since the end of August. It went from .249 to .238.
only 5 RBIs in Sept – You are getting into silly season – He only has 35 ABs – Raburn has only 2 more in 8 more ABs.
by 63 Tiger on Sep 23, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops...
your right about the average thing. The monthly avg. was right next to his avg for the last game in august. my mistake.
but the end argument is this. We are in September. We are pushing for a playoff spot and to win the Central Division. Raburn has been hot. Raburn is also the more experienced outfielder. Raburn also has the better throwing arm. Given how close the division race is, how unpredictable the Twins can be, and this teams inability to generate offense, the hot players need to be played. We have a DH spot for Guillen who is arguably this teams clutchest player. He can continue to do that for us. But given the fact that Raburn has been very hot he needs to be kept on the field.
The beauty of the DH spot is that Guillen can get AB’s while a better defender roams the outfield.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
by madpoopz on Sep 23, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leyland has stated that he will play the veterans down the stretch
If he holds to that, I would expect to see both Guillen and Huff in the line up against RHP the rest of the season and playoffs. Raburn has been great against LHP, but I prefer the proven veterans against RHP. Next April is the time for Raburn to prove he is a full time player, and not in the waning days of a playoff chase.
by 63 Tiger on Sep 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
September RBI
If we go by September RBI, Detroit’s best hitter has been…HUFF (11)
(Whatever happened to the fiction that Huff could play various positions in the field, by the way?)
by ColemanOld on Sep 23, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ragged on Carlos
I even said that it would take duct tape to hold him together, but to say he hasn’t done much of anything since his return, well I just flat out disagree with that. He’s done very well, actually he’s been stranded on bases more than he left them out there. But as for left field, he is atrocious, worse than Maggs in right.
by Detroitchik on Sep 23, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see
Raburn everyday in LF and leading off. Use Huff and Guillen to DH depending on history vs pitcher and/or whomever gets hot. With so little time left in the season, you need to ride the hot hand, and right now that’s Raburn.
by BigJP on Sep 23, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
plus
Raburn seems to have made some strides in fielding. I doubt Guillen’s damonesque arm would be able to throw anyone out
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com
by rock n rye on Sep 23, 2009 11:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I just wanted to say
TCOTN really made me chuckle
by MrPants20 on Sep 23, 2009 11:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if this has already been brought up elsewhere or not, but...
The White Sox have lost Bobby Jenks for the season.
Good thing? Bad thing? Jenks has traditionally been tough on the Tigers, but he did have two blown saves against them this year (and he had six blown saves overall). As for who is going to close for them now, I don’t know. Without looking up numbers (and I haven’t paid a ton of attention to the Sox since the Tigers last saw them in July), I believe Matt Thornton has been their best reliever. The rest of their bullpen has been kind of up and down.
http://tigersamateuranalysis.blogspot.com
by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 23, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing in the end
we can’t count on Twins losing. Gotta win ourselves. Losing a key piece out of their pen hurts the Sox, who we have to beat if we want to make the playoffs. Definitely a help.
by Trysdor on Sep 23, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its a push.
Jenks has been awful lately, so facing him wouldn’t be the bad news it used to.be. Still, his absence pushes thornton to closwr, which takes him out of the situational role he is so good at.
by rook34 on Sep 23, 2009 3:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
shameless self promotion

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/9/22/1047915/2009-american-league-playoff#storyjump
Let us know what you think.
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity!"
by Justin Bopp on Sep 23, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not much for sabremetrics...
but I’m gonna probably keep an eye on your site to learn a bit about it.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
by madpoopz on Sep 23, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn's bad play
cut a very important chunk off poor Justin.
by Trysdor on Sep 23, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Justin
Maybe if he deletes Washburn and replaces him with Robertson Justin will be, um, restored.
On the other hand, sometimes horses run faster—nevermind, scratch that thought.
by ColemanOld on Sep 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paying singlio in singles
might be the COTY (comment of the year). Good one Rock n Rye
by Detroit4lyfe on Sep 23, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed.
that was a brilliant comment rock n rye.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
by madpoopz on Sep 23, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you kind sir
Just doing what I can trying to avoid those floodwaters the past few days down here in GA
http://www.fromthecopa.blogspot.com
by rock n rye on Sep 23, 2009 2:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn?
I say delete the Washburn and insert Robertson
by ColemanOld on Sep 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
clete returns....
To the 3 hole tonight. Huff, Guillen, and Razor are in as well.
by rook34 on Sep 23, 2009 5:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I am not counting on anything from clete
I hope I eat my words, but i doubt it. He’ll be swinging for the seats, as usual
by Detroitchik on Sep 23, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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