Ozzie Guillen Isn't [Expletive] Happy With His Team
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 27, 2009 11:00 AM EDT
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You've probably heard by now that Ozzie Guillen went off on his team following last night's loss to the Tigers. (rook34 mentioned it in the afterglow thread.)
But what set the White Sox manager off wasn't blowing a 5-0 lead or allowing 12 unanswered runs (though he couldn't have been happy about that), but his players' preference to watch college football in the clubhouse, rather than stew about what just happened on the field.
If I could find a video clip of the tirade (or if I'd had my camera nearby while watching SportsCenter this morning), I'd post it. But since I don't, we'll have to settle for a blockquote.
Take it away, Ozzie (via Bruce Levine at ESPNChicago.com):
"If they think the season's over for them, yes," Guillen said. "If they think it's over for me, no. I want to make it clear: There's a bunch of [expletives] out there watching football games like a piece of [expletive] with no pride. By the way they [expletive] play, that's embarrassing. If you don't have pride about the way you play, get another job.
"I'm not in a pennant race, but at least I have some pride. When you get [to the clubhouse] and turn on a stupid-ass football game when those [expletive] football players don't give a [expletive] about you, that's embarrassing.
"We've got seven games [left]. They are going to pull their [expletive] together, period. I don't mind losing a game, but when you lose a game and you don't care about it, we are going to have a problem. To get your asses kicked like that and all of a sudden, you're watching football games? That's a bunch of [expletive]."
The funny part is that the White Sox usually play Guillen's post-game presser on the JumboTron in U.S. Cellular Field afterwards so that fans can watch. But as Ozzie kept spewing the profanities, the team cut the feed.
Will this have an affect on this afternoon's series finale? Might Ozzie's tirade push his team to get a series win? Or is this kicking a team that's already been beaten down by a disappointing season?
UPDATE: ESPN.com has the video up now. (Thanks to KJ for pointing this out in the comments.)
He's like a HBO sitcom! I love it.
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Thanks, as I hadn't caught this yet.....
but what else would anyone expect from him? Not that he is wrong, but these aren’t kids he is talking to. I’m surprised one (or, a bunch of them) beat his ass someday……
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by Zappatista on Sep 27, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Konerko said that the players didn’t even turn on the games; the clubhouse was tuned to them when they get there.
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by john.kmiecik on Sep 27, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing new but...
…how does he still have a damn job?
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by john.kmiecik on Sep 27, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, he sure seems entertaining
and he won a world series ring 2005 and division title in 2008, so …
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 27, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may swear a lot
But even as a Tiger’s fan he’s 100% right.
by actioncuse on Sep 27, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am hoping that he benches some of his regulars for today as punishment
then Detroit can play some weaker players
/ but it’s about the “integrity of the game” so he probably won’t
by murrajo on Sep 27, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm more worried
That the less-established players with everything to prove and maybe a job to win will play better and harder than the same players normally on the lineup.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
by Baroque on Sep 27, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sox will go hard today...
But because it is the last home game, not because ozzie lost it again. There are some true pros in that clubhouse, but ozzie has had too many outbursts for any one of them to have much impact anymore.
by rook34 on Sep 27, 2009 12:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
OZZIE
PLEASE LEAVE CHICAGO FOR GOOD OZZIE.I AM SICK OF YOUR SWEARING BASEBALL IS OR SHOULD BE ALOT FOR KIDS FOR YOUR FOUL MOUTH EVERY TIME YOU TRY AND SPEAK SO GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM AND DONT EVER COME BACK TO CHICAGO.LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH IF YOU ARE GOING TO STAY HERE IN THE USA AND GET RID OF YOUR TRASHY MOUTH NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR TRASH AND YOU ARE A TERRIBLE MANAGER GET OUT YOU EMBARASS US ALL IN CHICAGO AND THE USA SO LEAVE AND DO IT NOW
by getoutofhere on Sep 27, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did you seriously just make an account for that?
your first post on either board (joining the white sox too i see) isn’t really classy or intelligent.
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by mrsunshine on Sep 27, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now, be nice
Clearly he also has a busted computer keyboard, too. Broken CAPS LOCK key. :D
Poor thing.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
by Baroque on Sep 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ozzie Guillen's English is pretty good, actually.
And he cusses a wide blue streak, but some people are just like that – especially when they are upset. And any manager would be upset after that game, and then feeling that his players really didn’t care as much as he himself did.
There are a lot more embarrassing people in sports than Ozzie Guillen, I think.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
by Baroque on Sep 27, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't buy it
The Sox cared enough to get up 5-0 and then stopped caring somewhere in the middle innings and gave up 12 runs?
The man has no ability to express himself outside of profane tirades. How any baseball owner would be willing to pay him several million dollars a year to be the face of the franchise is beyond me.
All the better of us, as this sort of thing has to become a major detriment to the White Sox’s morale at some point. Long live Ozzie.
BTW, there’s video of the tirade up at the ESPN link in Ian’s post.
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by KJ@theonlycolors on Sep 27, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mean the team stopped caring in the middle
I mean that Ozzie probably was ticked that after the game was over, the players didn’t seem all that upset at the result because they were watching a fottball game.
I think he’s off base there – is it better to recognize that a game is over and nothing can be done to improve anything now, or to sit and stew over it for hours and feel even more miserable? – but that is what I think he was getting at.
And if profanity and tirades were enough to keep anyone from getting hired, Bobby Knight should have never held on as long as he did. If a coach has some level of success, it gets passed of as “colourful.”
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
by Baroque on Sep 27, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie
He might be right, but he does not know how to get his point to his team…I dont consider him a great manager, well maybe its because I dont like him very much. That team needs a change I think the players probably dont like have a crazy manager, would you?
by PBURGTIGER on Sep 27, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
every sport has a handful of managers/coaches like that
Profane screamers who get a job, usually when an owner decides that his current team is “too comfortable” and “needs shaking up,” and he might have success for a year or two until the team tunes him out, then he gets fired and moves on to another team that needs shaking up.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
by Baroque on Sep 27, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they're starting to tune him out.
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by madpoopz on Sep 27, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally
Shelf life on yellers is pretty short. At some point the athletes remember that they are professionals and adults, and don’t want to be screamed at like they are slow-witted children of a short-tempered parent. Volume isn’t the most important factor in communication.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
by Baroque on Sep 27, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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