Game 155: Tigers at White Sox
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 27, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
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PrintDetroit Tigers at Chicago White Sox, Sep 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT
Edwin Jackson (13-7, 3.25) vs. 
Daniel Hudson (0-1, 3.38), 2:05 p.m. EST
After last night's amazing, improbable 12-5 win (and comeback from a 5-0 deficit), the Tigers go for the series win over the White Sox. Every win is obviously crucial right now, as the Twins have no intention of letting the AL Central slip away. But might the White Sox be a little irritable following Ozzie Guillen's post-game rant?
Daniel Hudson makes his second major league start for the White Sox, subbing for the injured Gavin Floyd. In his debut, Hudson gave up three runs (one earned) to the Twins, but his lineup couldn't give him any run support. Here's a scouting report from Sox Machine on Hudson. He mostly gets by with a fastball-slider combination (topping out in the low-90s), with a change-up mixed in.
Did Edwin Jackson get his groove back on Tuesday versus the Indians? Jackson pitched seven shutout innings, and presumably stopped tipping his slider. But mostly, he was successful because he kept the ball down and eventually stopped falling behind hitters. Jackson hasn't earned a decision in two starts against the White Sox this season, but compiled a 3.75 ERA in those games.
Lineup-wise, the only notable change is Clete Thomas in right field. Magglio Ordonez has the day off.
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Fo'Sho!
Let’s all hope Greinke took his meds today, as well…..
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Starting Lineups
TIGERS
1. Curtis Granderson CF
2. Placido Polanco 2B
3. Clete Thomas RF
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Aubrey Huff DH
6. Carlos Guillen LF
7. Brandon Inge 3B
8. Gerald Laird C
9. Adam Everett SS
WHITE SOX
1. Scott Podsednik CF
2. Gordon Beckham 3B
3. A.J. Pierzynski C
4. Jermaine Dye DH
5. Mark Kotsay 1B
6. Alexei Ramirez SS
7. Carlos Quentin LF
8. Chris Getz 2B
9. Alex Rios RF
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions
Santiago at shortstop, batting ninth
I was going by the Yahoo! boxscore, which has Everett at shortstop. But everyone else – including Jason Beck – has Ramon Santiago, so I guess he’s getting the start.
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
well...
I’m gonna miss most of this game but I actually found my missing Tigers gear so I’ll be providing support in the way of clothing.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
I want an large medallion in the shape of the old english D...
hanging off of a large gold chain.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
that would be hilarious
Tigers bling. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
cheer up
Baseball time! (well, almost)
I’ll be missing the game after about 3:30 because the family is getting together for ice cream and cake for one of my brother’s birthday. I’ll be around until then, though. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
everybody tells me to cheer up...
but that is my essentially my happy face. I say essentially because I am also very tired because of a very, very rough week. Plus I’m really hungry right now.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
sorry you had a rough week
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
thanks...
but today starts a new week for me and the worst event is behind me.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
I've got my Polly jersey.
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by john.kmiecik on Sep 27, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I got my Throw Strikes shirt. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I'm wearing an old Pudge Rodriguez t-shirt
Kind of dirty and sweaty after cutting the grass. I might go slide on it, just to set the tone.
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 27, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
my hat I got for $5 at Hat World a while ago...
and the shirt I got at meijers awhile ago. Until now they’ve been MIA.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
the only thing keeping my sanity on a non-frayed thread right now
Is the fact that the upcoming series with Minnesota is in Detroit instead of in that hellish dome of demonic possession.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
today is ours....
Let’s get these bastards again.
by rook34 on Sep 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
stereo internet baseball :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
and go Royals!
Show off your Cy Young form, Zachary!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
and hello there
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
now that's the way to start a ball game in style!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
24th leadoff homer
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
takes the lead from Sweet Lou
for career leadoff homers.
If Mario can be believed.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I still have homework to finish.
But Curtis hitting a home-run is a sign. I should be watching baseball instead.
Pull a Frisbee Pilot here...
Listen to the game, and work with it in the background.
I’m almost kinda glad I didn’t buy the mlb.tv package for the last week of the season. It may sound crazy, but I almost prefer listening to a game than watching it.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 27, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
better give the same call to Edwin, then
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
If we take the first game of the series...
…I think that’ll rattle the Twins’ cages enough to knock the winning streak from their minds.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 27, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
during the game, or just during all waking hours now?
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
pretty much yes
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
It's like that Stephen Wright line
“You know when you’re leaning back on a chair, and you lean far enough back so that the chair starts to fall backwards, but then you catch yourself just in time? I feel like that all the time.”
by frisbeepilot on Sep 27, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Grandy was giving G$ an opportunity to show off his cannon
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
As long as it's consistent...
…that’s what matters.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 27, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The two-seamers seem to be fooling the ump.
Edwin doesn’t throw one, unfortunately.
by StringTheory on Sep 27, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
A slightly off-topic question
You’d be the person to ask about this… it’s a yes-or-no question that popped up last night in conversation with a friend. If you take Einstein’s gravitational tensor, (a.) does flat space mean that the matrix is diagonal? And, (b.) are those off-diagonal elements there to account the bending of spacetime by matter?
by frisbeepilot on Sep 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That's beyond anything I've studied so far.
by StringTheory on Sep 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Far enough to know what’s meant by diagonal and non-diagonal matrices, but not far enough to be familiar with space-time equations.
by StringTheory on Sep 27, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
multitasking too closely
when G$ through out hte runner I thought it was the third out because there were two outs in the Twins/Royals game!
imagine if this Hudson was pitching against Verlander
Pitching at warp speed! Game would be over in less than two hours.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I'm sure you will
Especially if the score is unchanged by then.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Come on, Brandon!
Please be adequate.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I don't want to put too much pressure on the man.
Starting with lower expectations. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
so aim for the guy who shoots off the fireworks and hope to land just past the yellow stripe
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 27, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be happy if Brandon can get a solid line drive right now.
I want him to decapitate the guy who shoots off the obnoxious fireworks.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
okay, next at bat then
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
especially the way Brandon was "hitting" lately
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
stupid Podsednik :(
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
throw strikes, please Edwin
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
WANTED
STRIKES
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by john.kmiecik on Sep 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
hey guys
just checking in here. trying to clean my house because someone is coming by later to see about buying it.
and ugh, tie game. damn you quentin
I Like Pie
Jose Morales grounds into double play...
Morales is out and so are the Twins…
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dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit
Also @$^$#.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
the Lions are playing?
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
it would be nice
Just because then the talking heads would shut up about it and move on to Farve’s hangnail. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Okay, first and second, no one out for the Royals.
If the Twins’ charmed existence continues, a double play is next.
Are there a lot of Tiger fans in Chicago today?
There seem to be quite a few cheers when the TIgers do something good.
plenty the last couple games
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
thank you for doing something adequate :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Rod: "Who?"
:D
Betancourt, Rod. You heard Mario correctly.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Just like the Jays on Friday nights
They really do look silly.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 27, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
until someone dresses up like the 80s pirates, I will not be impressed
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 27, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
men aren't meant to wear pretty uniforms
Sharp, yes – attractive, yes – but pretty? Nope.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
pastels just aren't sports-type colors
Although I have to admit, I do prefer almost anything to the proliferation of black that has shown up in the NHL the last few years. I so badly want the Edmonton Oilers to go back to those gaudy blue and orange uniforms.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Dallas Stars and Minnesota Wild have green
Although the Wild comes out with a new third jersey every eight weeks, so I have no idea what their stupid primary color is now.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
my favorite hockey jerseys
will forever be the Islanders though, so make of that what you will
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
their old ones are fine
Their new ones with the bright orange arms look like the team works part time guiding planes into safe landings at the airport.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Minnesota Wild? Now you're just making teams up!
by happydrifter on Sep 27, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
am not!
There is a Phoenix Coyotes too – at least for the moment.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
they are actually working on that
Might be in Kansas City after another year. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I hate Gardy.
Not only is he smart, he’s a whiner. And he works the umps from the dugout on every single pitch.
I'm not a fan of football, really.
But I think the blackout rules are a joke.
by StringTheory on Sep 27, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
they are stupid
Anyone with sense would prefer, time, finances, and geography permitting, to attend any sporting even live – you aren’t going to get them to go by blackmail if the money isn’t there, they don’t live close enough, or they work then so they can only catch it on a television in the employee lounge or something.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
//rocks back and forth nervously
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
had my share last night
Saw my first walk off bomb ever, at the Brewers-Phillies game…Ryan Braun sent the crowd home happy.
Figured I really really ought to go see a game before the season ended, and got a fantastic ending for my trouble :)
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Did you untuck your shirt when the game ended?
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 27, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I untucked after the Michigan game...
and the walk off was many hours later :)
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Happy after lunch observation
The White Sox really do have some sharp home uniforms. They mess ’em up too often with those black jerseys.
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 27, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions
for sure
they’d be one of my favorites if say they were in the national league
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 27, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
Good contrast, classic design. Solid logo. Unlike this monstrosity:
Nice legs!
by frisbeepilot on Sep 27, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like the result of a rookie hazing ritual
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Rather than watching football
the White Sox should have been either standing alone (lost in stoicism) or sobbing in a huddled mass on the floor. I think that’s what Ozzie was saying, but it’s hard to tell.
a huddled sobbing mass would worry me more
But I’m not Ozzie.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
My wife just came in and asked what I was doing
Told her “Watching two baseball games, a football game, playing Euchre and on the Bless you boys forum.”
She nodded slowly and backed out of my office…
join the fun on the pride of detroit forum
Or would that be too much?
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well folks
my bro is making special lasagna, a recipe passed down to my family from a dying elderly italian lady. he needs A TON of help with it, so i volunteered. i’ll still be watching, just not being here with you folks :(
have fun all!
I Like Pie
I can only see on gameday.
But the location on the sliders to Mauer and Kubel were near perfect.
by StringTheory on Sep 27, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like Verlander to get the Cy
But he deserves it. At least so far most of the guys in the conversation all all legit choices.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I think Zach has ended the conversation.
JV is in that group right behind, with King Felix, CC, etc.
But CC knows how to win
He’s forced that horrible Yankees lineup out of their funk nineteen times!
by happydrifter on Sep 27, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
NO EXTRA CREDIT FOR BEING ON THE YANKEES!
:)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
It doesn't seem like you're familiar with the Cy Young criteria
by happydrifter on Sep 27, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm familiar with how much the bonus bias points suck
But when I was grading papers I didn’t give extra credit for being close, either.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Zach knows how to win fine.
It’s just the Royals get stupid about that part of baseball.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Of course. I'm not sure I have enough faith in sports writers to assume they will grasp that point, though
by happydrifter on Sep 27, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw this asked on Twitter
has anyone in the MSM actually argued for anyone but Greinke?
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 27, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone with a fully functioning cerebral cortex in the MSM :D
I’ve heard Verlander mentioned quite a bit, especially early.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
George Womanboat is a worse one
GROAN, I know. I’m awful.
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 27, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
when I first read that
I thought “Womanboat” was actually “Wombat” and I thought that would actually be a pretty cool name.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
wombats are such cute critters
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
EJax cruising today! I like it
So, uh, have they decided whether he WAS tipping his pitches or not?
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you know what would help him do that?
if Huff hit it out of the park.
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 27, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
or walked
that would help them walk it out, too, yeah
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta score here
Use the bats you were using last night, boys
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make the kid throw a strike
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Rod is not committing to anything Mario asks him
“does he win MVP?”
“he’s in the conversation”
“does he win Cy Young?”
“he’s in the conversation.”
“does he win manager of the year?”
“he’s in the conversation.”
Odd. Because he wasn't gun-shy about the gold gloves.
by StringTheory on Sep 27, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Does the writers' association chose GG as well?
by StringTheory on Sep 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
true
An award for defense – but unless a guy hits enough, he won’t get mentioned. The people who award those things have the attention span of a gnat.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
good enough
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
eh...not expecting much from Brandon here
prove me wrong buddy….I’m challenging your manhood! Get mad!
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be adequate, dang it!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
and, no
He must have left his manhood in a box at home when the team went to Chicago.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Finnish is such a weird language.
When Swedes make fun of how you talk, you know you’re on the bizarre end of the language spectrum.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 27, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to see the tigers doin their job
refs are trying to screw the lions by the sound of it
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!
HE WAS OUUT
Replay will probably prove me wrong as usual
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!
hell of a throw from Guillen
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"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Damnit
I HATE giving up runs the very next half inning
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!
Damn it, Edwin.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
This is pretty bad.
I know, it’s me again. At least I’ve got the balls to show up after yesterday, give me that.
I would like to punch Beckham in the face.
I think I’ve said that about twenty people in the last 24 hours. Beckham, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen…okay maybe 3.
Extra base hits bite EJ yet again.
I don’t know what the stats are, but EJ has to be up there in allowing EBH.
** Overflow Thread **
I have to step out for a bit, so I’m opening an overflow thread now.
Hoping it’s got a rally in there.
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 27, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
what the heck happened?
i leave for a minute and a lead turns into this? arrrgggghhhh
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