Game 157: Twins at Tigers
Minnesota Twins at Detroit Tigers, Sep 29, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Brian Duensing (5-1, 3.33) vs.
Justin Verlander (17-9, 3.41), 7:05 p.m. EST
After the Twins won the first game of today's doubleheader, first place in the AL Central is truly on the line tonight. Another Minnesota win would tie them with the Tigers atop the division.
Brian Duensing hasn't lost in his past seven starts, winning five of them. That includes last week, when he gave up four runs (three earned) and nine hits in 5.2 innings. But the Twins' lineup scored five runs for him, which provided plenty of cushion.
What's interesting about that start, however, is that Duensing started against the White Sox for the third time in that game. They're the only team he's faced more than once. The Tigers will be facing Duensing for the second time tonight. Will familiarity allow them to score some runs off him? Anything would be an improvement, since Duensing shut out Detroit the last time he faced them.
Justin Verlander has bigger paydays in his future, but games like tonight are why he makes the big bucks. The Tigers could really use a win tonight, and he's just the guy to be pitching for them under such circumstances. He allowed two runs in seven innings versus the Indians in his last outing, adding 11 strikeouts.
But in the start before that, the Twins scored five runs against Verlander. That's a bit deceiving, however, as he might have gotten away with allowing just one run until things fell apart once Don Kelly lost a fly ball against the Metrodome roof. With developments like that, Verlander hasn't beaten the Twins this season. In three starts against them, he's 0-2 with a 5.49 ERA.
Gerald Laird is in the lineup once again, despite starting this afternoon's game, as Jim Leyland prefers him to catch Verlander. Plus, he's a right-handed bat against the lefty Duensing.
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I'll be gone for a chunk of this thread.
My girlfriend just got accepted for the internship she wanted, so we’re going out to celebrate.
WHEEEEEEEEEEEE
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congratulations!
That’s awesome. Wish her luck for all of us wackos. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Starting Lineups
TWINS
1. Denard Span RF
2. Orlando Cabrera SS
3. Joe Mauer C
4. Jason Kubel DH
5. Michael Cuddyer 1B
6. Delmon Young LF
7. Carlos Gomez CF
8. Matt Tolbert 3B
9. Nick Punto 2B
TIGERS
1. Ryan Raburn LF
2. Placido Polanco 2B
3. Magglio Ordonez RF
4. Miguel Cabrera 1B
5. Marcus Thames DH
6. Brandon Inge 3B
7. Curtis Granderson CF
8. Gerald Laird C
9. Adam Everett SS
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 29, 2009 6:25 PM EDT reply actions
Hopefully, everyone took a deep breath after Game 1
Look, I understand things are tense. Some of you are really worried about the Tigers blowing their lead. And others feel the need to react against that. There are going to be disagreements, and people are entitled to their opinions.
However, it got a little out of hand in this afternoon’s GameThread. I realize some of that was due to overly negative, trollish comments. (I’d like to think that’s been taken care of.) But if there’s one rule here, it’s that personal insults toward other commenters aren’t going to fly.
Keep it cool.
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 29, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions
i dont mean to be a downer.
Watching the lead shrink has been painful. We still have a good chance and our best guy on the hill. Probably won’t be on the thread much to avoid be reactionary. Let’s get ’em!
by rook34 on Sep 29, 2009 6:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
nerves rubbed raw
Just think, now we get to experience this through fandom. In past eras, to feel this kind of intense emotional distress, we would have had to try to kill a lion with a Bowie knife in the wilds or something.
At least watching the Tigers is safer. :)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Don't you just feel so ALIVE right now!!!
(Right before your head explodes, of course.)
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Beer?
That’s it?
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It's still 0-0
That may change with the play of the game…
by farkette on Sep 29, 2009 7:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And remember, there's a week left in the season
And we’re still in it. How many times in the last 25 years have we been able to say that?
I'm just gonna stare at the screen shot I took of rick in the dugout
until game time. saving the liquor for later.
also
I am literally pacing around. I’m not hungry but thinking about starting dinner so I have something to do.
YES! and NO!
Yes! I found out that I indeed should be getting FSN Detroit to watch the game tonight – thank you DirecTV.
NO!!! My TV crapped out!! It is turning on and off by itself every 5-7 seconds!! Looks like I have to bring in the 19-inch reinforcements!!
by TigerFanInCleveland on Sep 29, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions
at the game..
The weather feels pretty good, some breaks in the clouds.. ominous looking clouds coming this way bur hopefully it stays the way it is..
LET’S GO TIGERS!!!!
by explosivo2k2 on Sep 29, 2009 6:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm gonna have to duck out for the beginning of the game
Old roommate’s birthday is the 1st and I have to go get him a gift. Any tennis related ides?
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Maria Sharapova would be a good gift.
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 29, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
As he constantly reminds me
Unfortunately, I have neither the funds nor the ability to track her down.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
running late but have to go
See you folks later!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I hope you're sweet talking Joseph Patrick in the meantime
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
can do.
I’m going to burn my Mauer shirt if he does well and propels twins to things that won’t be spoken of.
0-for-5 in the double header
you’re doing a great job!
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's Go Boys
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
We can still win this thing... we need 2 out of the next 3
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
I’m not sure if I should close the game thread or not. You all are seeing the game before me. But your reactions may soften crushing blows or get me excited for happy things.
Thoughts?
have you tried setting it to standard quality?
it is usually right with the broadcast or close to it.
I always switch to standard quality.
Really glad I wasted that extra $5. Being so far behind is unbearable.
the crowd tonight???
seems quiet!! And SMALL!! at least Mauer is out!
by TigerFanInCleveland on Sep 29, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
back for more
what are we, masochists?
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what's that taste in my mouth/
it’s refreshingly empty of baseball loss!
thank goodness the second game has finally started
yeah, I saw that fb post
baseball sure is a harsh mistress sometimes, eh?
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GOOD START
but I would love to see a couple short innings of work for JV, I want him to go the distance tonight…your are ace, this is our season…start dealing and go…..the….distance
Just as long as he avoids those big inning shenanigans
Reminds me of Bonderman a couple years ago when he couldn’t get out of the first without giving up a run.
Brian Duensing...
Now that I know how to pronounce his name.

by TigerFanInCleveland on Sep 29, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions
"Sir Fart"
Ha haha huh… hahahah huhhuh
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 29, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
looked ok on gameday
I never know how much to trust their little box
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BIG LET DOWN
in the crowd tonight, where the hell is our tenth man? the fucking stadium looks half empty..did everyone in the city of Detroit forget whats on the line for this series???
Go Tigers! Missed most of the heartbreaker this afternoon, back for more.
Keep it positive, like the happy child deep down inside you…
Baseball Geek
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 29, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
My students thought I was insane today
(up at the chalkboard with the front-desk computer on to Gameday)
“So, Newton’s third law of motion states — OH NO! TWO ON AND ONE OUT! Alright, so, action-reaction force pairs — COME ON, THAT WAS A STRIKE! — act on different objects…”
I am nervous. Good nervous, though… not like “waiting for the V.D. test results” nervous.
haha.
i was yelling a bit at my desk. good thing my boss doesn’t mind if I watch at work.. as long as I answer the phone.
you bought lunch
I think you were pretty safe today :)
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IMO
whoever that fan with the black coat on needs to be thrown out. He’s not a real fan if he won’t go after the ball.
A summary
Tea, taxes, Tom Payne, redcoats, United Empire Loyalists (my family!), powdered wigs.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a summary
Washington, slavery, Taft, wars, Kennedy boinks Marilyn, trickle-down economics, Lewinsky, Obama.
Now back to the game, young man!
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
And with that,
you’ve demonstrated a greater history understanding than at least 75% of Americans.
by StringTheory on Sep 29, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't canada have any interesting politics of its own?
I swear every Canadian knows more about this country than half the Americans.
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Canadian politics summary
Explorers, beaver pelts, Plains of Abraham, Acadians/Cajuns, John A. McDonald being drunk in Parliament, Louis Riel gets hanged, railway, “54-40 Or Fight,” Ukrainians on the prairies, wars, Avro Arrow, Trudeau’s wife bangs Mick Jagger, Chretien’s wife hits an intruder on the head with an Inuit carving, poutine goes nationwide.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I was in canada around election time and confusd as hell
it was like the democratic-republicans vs. the republican-democrats. I kept looking for the whig party signs.
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If you can explain the proroguing of Parliament without resorting to Google
I will buy you a beer.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a class on how the form of elections influences the result of the election
at Michigan State. I don’t remember talking much about Canada, but the professor was really into how it worked in Israel.
but i’ve never even seen the word proroging, so your beer is safe
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Leyland said JV's going a long way tonight
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
who does he think he is, Jack Morris?
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a cruel one
I go to a meeting, it wasn’t fun, and then I get back to my office to the news of the loss…just painful
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between your avatar and rudemood's
it looks like a deoderant commercial around these parts
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
MORE EFFIN RUNS THIS TIME, GENTS
One’s good, teeing off on the kid is good, BUT IT’S NOT ENOUGH!
Please?
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Brandon Inge, at your service
and I don’t mean funky in the good sense
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Hi!
Going to try mobile commenting
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by john.kmiecik on Sep 29, 2009 7:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Beware. Very cumbersome.
Baseball Geek
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 29, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
tell your girl Congrats from a stranger
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Resident Spaniard speaking
Puto/a is whore. (Also used more expansively, like fuck).
Punto means point, also stitches (like sutures).
Is that so?
I don’t know any Spanish, but I guess I think of “poon-tang.”
Yeah, I’m a classy guy.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
"are" teach?
This “teach” just cringed. A lot.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and instantly became their favorite teacher
well played!
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
My kids' response today
“Where are the Tigers from?”
“You like baseball?”
“I play cricket.”
Toronto: some pros, some cons.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
JV's curveball
Jim Price: “I tell ya, I think some people’s knees in the stands buckled with that curveball.”
hey, maybe we can get 15 of the other team's guy out in a row, too?
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I'm not a little on edge or anything
But the Michigan tourism ad on the radio is making me all teary.
Go Tigs!
The one talking about Michigan wineries?
Isn’t Tim Allen a recovering alcoholic?
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
where are you located, Dale?
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So hailed
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by john.kmiecik on Sep 29, 2009 7:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
MAGGS
Has certainly been playing better of late. But to me it is no doubt that he is the weak link in the lineup. If we were getting the Homers and the double’s from him that he put up last year, this series with Minny would not even matter. I dont know if his power will ever fully return. But I do know he will be getting paid like it.
Probably as insurance for Mauer leaving.
by StringTheory on Sep 29, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh. Woops.
I don’t know why I thought Sano was a catcher.
by StringTheory on Sep 29, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Hometown discount.
New park with no Mauer? C’mon, the Twins would have to be crazy to let him go.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Windstorms in northern MI, beach is GONE
Baseball Geek
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 29, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions
Magglio: a single will do
I know that’s your specialty these days
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Losing track of outs. I'm a wreck.
Baseball Geek
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 29, 2009 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
if that's how far they sit from Verlander on a regular occassion
are they sharing the dugout with the opposing team during a no-hitter?
With a double, no less!
Maybe he used Cabrera’s bat.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
2 bases are better than one!
and two runs….are PRICELESS!
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Gotta say
he’s overpaid, but I love Magglio for what he’s done for the Tigers over the years. Clutch.
18 Mil 2 bagger - worth it
Baseball Geek
by StorminNormanCash on Sep 29, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions
what happened??? score???
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
NIIICCEEEEEEE
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
I got hassled trying to spend one of these once.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to have a few.
Don’t know what happened to them though. I must have been able to spend them somewhere when I didn’t realize how cool the were.
They're not rare or anything
It’s just that nobody seems to spend them. Not sure why, though.
Try spending this, though:

by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
If Port Huron, Michigan is in the USA...
…the USA.
We used to have a $2 bill that people used all the time, until the gov’t changed them all into $2 coins in ’96.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, the twonie
loved the two toned nature of that sucker
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When it was new...
…idiotic kids would chuck them against walls to pop the centres out. Way to waste two bucks, morons!
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Can I trust you guys to hold the fort and shepherd this lead home?
Gotta go play ultimate…in 45 degree weather… with wind….not gonna be fun
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damn that was a nice pitch too.
stoopid bloop.
by TigerFanInCleveland on Sep 29, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
You move too fast for me to reply
by john.kmiecik on Sep 29, 2009 8:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I just looked up Verlander
in a German English dictionary. No hits (probably someone from Verland, wherever that is), but Verlanden means “to silt up”. Like what JV is doing to Twins bats.
Remember former Tiger pitcher Chris Mears?
Rumour had it he wore a size 8 cap. Size 8!!! I thought I had a giant Irish head at 7-3/8.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
either my dad is drunk or REALLY enjoying this game
he just IMed and said he wants to go to vegas next month
Can't he be both?
Just let the man LIVE, for gosh sakes!
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I have missed approximately 10 minutes of this game
and have missed all 3 runs. Maybe I should be a little late coming back from commercal all the time.
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!
For some reason, when someone mentions a squeeze bunt
I always think of that Price Is Right game, “Squeeze Play.”
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome
I come back to this? Sweet!
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well it's going so well without you, don't you ahve any place you need to be/
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Allow me to rephrase
I come back and we get a double and a single? Sweet!
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I try
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
hey you have still of not told me any thing good about Casey Crosby
by Jay the Great on Sep 29, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
ooh good idea
that should distract him for an hour
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Very funny Kurt
Crosby is a 6’5", 200lb lefty with a bigger fastball (touches 96-97). His curve and change are developing, and he’s got an injury history (Tommy John) but he absolutely dominated Lo-A ball and is the most projectable pitcher in the system (excluding new draftees). He also strikes out 10 batters per 9, and while the walk rate is high (around 4), he doesn’t get hit for many HR either. Fantastic prospect that has an ace ceiling.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
10 per 9 innings
Sorry about that…
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No problem
I get that desire all the time. ;)
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
In the words of Charles Barkley
That was just trr-ible
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!
JV IS DISGUSTING RIGHT NOW
just filthy
by TigerFanInCleveland on Sep 29, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
OK, but if you want us to belive you're Rod
you’re going to have to compliment his thighs
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy hell!
Jim and Dan are beside themselves talking about how filty Verlander’s stuff is. Tell me, people with magic televisions who can see this with their eyes, is it really that good? :)
I did a search for Nasty Boys hoping to find a picture from that Janet Jackson video
I wouldn’t recommend searching for “nasty boys”
...
Duh?
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
and take it from Ian
you may want to clear your browser history now!
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 29, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Her first name's not Baby.
It’s Janet.
Miss Jackson, if you’re nasty.
by frisbeepilot on Sep 29, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
We get it.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
JV
is a much different pitcher with a lead, now he can come after you in a few different ways…and not worried about a mistake with every pitch! Twins are in trouble now, but i wont be comfortable unless we get 4 runs in this game.
that last swing by Tolbert was a joke
he had no clue. just stuck the bat out.
by TigerFanInCleveland on Sep 29, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
hahaha
@beckjason: Remember when Carlos Gomez had some words for Justin Verlander last year? Verlander does. #tigers
You know what might be a nice signing?
Bobby Abreu… good OBP- he could lead off and tutor Granderson while playing the corner OF slots and DH’ing.
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Now on Rogers Sportsnet, my only all-sports TV channel
Jays 6 @ Red Sox 2, mid 4.
Someone in that control room should just flip the feed over to this game. srsly
at least they are showing actual sports
ESPN has poker
Maybe now you'll never slime a guy with a positron collider!
ROD
you know what the burn feels like
by dettigionswings'stons on Sep 29, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions
Big AB here
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
ha ha Love it
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Hope he hits it outa the park here
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Um...
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened?
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You know... Thames has a good eye...
It seems like he either Walks, Strikes out, Hits a HR, or pops it STRAIGHT up.
But he walks a lot, which comes in handy sometimes.
Hmm
134 BB to 431 K in his career… not exactly a walks machine.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No Brandon!
Don’t be a hero!!!!!!
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BASES LOADED!
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
OMA?
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
Nice
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Next games in the series
Night game Wednesday, day game Thursday… isn’t that kinda like another day-night DH, with a couple more hours and bit of sleep jammed in there?
Intensity!
normally I hate puns
But this one is made of win.
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by David Tokarz on Sep 29, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Grandy didn't get the message
This hitter isn’t a lefty… you don’t have to make outs!
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** Overflow Thread **
Take a walk, breathe in. Then head over to the Overflow and see this through.
by Ian Casselberry on Sep 29, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions
AWESOME
@Jim_Leyland: Snuck into the tunnel to get this off and let you fans know…that fan who helped Mauer catch the foul ball has been "taken care of"
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