Game 133: Indians at Tigers
Cleveland Indians at Detroit Tigers, Sep 3, 2009 1:05 PM EDT
Fausto Carmona (3-9, 6.20) vs.
Nate Robertson (1-1, 6.84), 1:05 p.m. EST
The Tigers go for a sweep this afternoon at Comerica Park. A win today would also include the added bonus of gaining a 1/2-game on the Twins in the AL Central.
Fausto Carmona had put a decent five-game streak together for the Indians, allowing two runs or fewer in four of those starts. It unraveled a bit in his last outing, however, as the Orioles rocked him for six runs and nine hits in less than five innings. But Carmona's fellow sinkerballer, Aaron Laffey, pitched quite well against the Tigers last night, so if he has that pitch working, he could be successful. Unless Detroit continues the strategy of hitting the ball to Jhonny Peralta, which was their best offensive play last night.
Last time Carmona faced the Tigers, he held them to two runs and four hits over five innings. (Though he also walked five batters.) In two starts versus Detroit, he's allowed four runs in 11.2 innings with 10 walks.
Nate Robertson pitched well enough to win last Saturday (although his four innings wouldn't have been enough for a decision). He allowed just one earned run and four hits to the Rays, but the Tigers' lineup had no answer for David Price and couldn't supply any offense. Regardless, the effort was good enough to earn at least one more start. And if Robertson has three pitches working like he did versus Tampa Bay, he could do well today.
In a three-inning relief appearance earlier this season against Cleveland, Robertson allowed one run and three hits. His career record versus the Tribe is 2-5 with a 5.29 ERA in 17 games.
Jim Leyland has a lefty-heavy lineup ready to face Carmona. Placido Polanco, Magglio Ordonez, and Gerald Laird get the day off. Aubrey Huff, Clete Thomas, and Alex Avila are back in there.
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Yeah...
To put it bluntly, if I hear one more teacher tell me anything about swine flu, I’m infecting myself with it to get out of class.
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
turn your head and cough
wait, that’s something else
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 3, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i was hoping for a night game today
Driving up to MI after work today. Would have been nice to have the game take up the first three hours. Looks like I’m going to have to add a few more songs to the road trip playlist
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by rock n rye on Sep 3, 2009 12:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Hi/bye
I’ll be missing the whole game due to collegiate obligations. Let’s bring our brooms to this one, shall we?
by kendra.michelle on Sep 3, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
From Jason Beck
Granderson cf,
Thomas rf,
Guillen lf,
Cabrera 1b,
Huff dh,
Avila c,
Inge 3b,
Santiago 2b,
Everett ss,
Robertson p.
from a Swiffer commercial
Starring mops and brooms trying to win back the lady of the house after she has fallen for the ease of use of the Swiffer.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
Hello
I’ll be able to join you and listen on Gameday Audio (hopefully) for the first hour, and then I have lab (that is, unless the fire alarms go off again). Right now I’m having Internet issues with my iPod.
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Silly work.
Can’t watch daytime baseball. :(
Thank goodness for the internets!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I was trying to look up Carmona's numbers against the Tigers, and I came across this tidbit:
Carmona’s faced Granderson more times than any other batter. By a lot.
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I'll have to look at that later
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 3, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
imagine Polanco with that helmet
It would cause a solar eclipse every day game
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by rock n rye on Sep 3, 2009 1:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wish I could see it
It made David Wright look like Craig Biggio. Wonder what Guillen’s motivation was.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 3, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i think Curtis just showed Henning where to put that trade talk
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by rock n rye on Sep 3, 2009 1:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree. I also think Henning is total downer,
who thoroughly enjoys raining on parades.
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Sep 3, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
With the size of those helmets
Wouldn’t they weigh down your head and cause your swing to get messed up?
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 3, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
bye, Poopz!
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
I know they are requiring those helmets in the minors next year...
Do they plan on mandating them in the big leagues shortly thereafter?
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they'd probably prefer to leave it up to the players
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 3, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe grandfather it in after a while
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
get them used to it in the minors and assume they'll wear it in the majors
and the guys in the majors will see their peers do not suddenly suck and give it a go. If someone’s throwing 100 mph at me, I want fricken concrete around my head!
That’s my guess anyway.
by Kurt Mensching on Sep 3, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I never got my blog post up
because the fire alarms went off while I was in the computer lab, and then I had to go to class.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 3, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could do that
but I have lab today, and that’s required.
At least I don’t work.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 3, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Do I even want to know?
My guess would be no.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 3, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I just had almond chicken, so I'll pass
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 3, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Gameday had all three of those pitches going right down the middle.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 3, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Ack
I just nearly had my ears blasted out by an exceptionally loud Taco Bell commercial
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Nate seems to have his changeup working
Or so say Dan and Jim
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They were discussing that on the radio the night he had three hits
They said he made some mechanical tweaks.
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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 3, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I gotta go to lab now
If I get out before the game’s over, I will rejoin you. Keep up the good work, Nate.
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Designate Robertson
To the 5th spot in the rotation
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by rock n rye on Sep 3, 2009 1:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
4 innings and still a zero on the board
I like this new Nate.
forgot there was a day game today, probably for the best, with all I gotta get done at work today :)
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It's really good to know
that last outing was no fluke. A healthy Nate is an incredible asset for this staff.
gentlemen, please remember that Fausto has a ERA over 6
and swing the bats accordingly
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awright cletus, whatchoo gonna dooo with this RISP???
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Argh. Painful when a hitter K's looking with RISP.
A pet peeve of mine.
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Sep 3, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
I imagine he wasn't shouting to pump himself up, but rather yelling
“Now score me some effing runs.”
See...if a guy has trouble throwing strike, please lay off the first pitch, mmmkay?
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not as a rule, just in general...seems like a lot of first pitch outs for the tigers
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and then there's huff, swinging at two out of the zone pitches en route to striking out
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I mean, does the rookie deity have to show the way every time?
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k this is getting frustrating.
I don’t think my headache can stand much more of us letting carmona get away with being so wild
never thought i would be disappointed nate was taken out early
but i guess he’s still rehabbing somewhat. plus the bullpen has been good recently.
Ok, hands up, who predicted a Carmona/Robertson pitchers duel?
anyone with their hand up is a filthy stinkin’ liar :)
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Perry school
that was my kindergarten, over in Ypsi…which is about how old Ryan Perry looks
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Nate! All OP had to do was take pitches from a
usually wild pitcher. [Which makes the rest of the Tigers’ hitters incompetence today inexcusable.]
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Sep 3, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Good things happen when you let Carmona pitch a little
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Clete is leavin' em slack jawed!
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Carlos was batting righty today?
has he been doing that and I just hadn’t noticed?
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He's been almost exclusively lefty since he came off the DL
But I think I read somewhere that he felt his shoulder was getting to the point where he could switch hit again.
explanation
after the pitching change, game day said Carlos turned around to bat left handed, before announcing the Raburn switch…just hadn’t realized he was trying it out yet. It’s a good sign if he feels well enough to try it.
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ump looks like he's squeezing Sipp
both of those balls are borderline cases on gameday
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and the strike was outside :)
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2 runs, not bad
Takes it up to the Rodney comfort zone, as long as Perry, or whoever else can hold the Indians at bay in the 8th.
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well yeah
i wonder if the tigers are intentionally scoring only enough to have rodney get the save
I Like Pie
I had class
And some stuff to do with judicial. I could have sworn the game was earlier.
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
No
But it’s getting irritating…
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
Jeez...
If I hear one more prof go on about that, I’m gonna snap.
It’s less fatal than regular flu and only kills people who are a) not in my age group or b) have preconditioning medical conditions. I’m not worried.
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
true
People should be more worried about regular flu. The problem is there is no telling how contagious the H1N1 variant is when it’s circulating in the population simultaneously with the regular influenza strains. A pandemic disease doesn’t have to have a high mortality rate to be disabling – I know in my workplace, if about three people are out for a week with illness at the same time, there will be a LOT of scrambling because we don’t have many people (and cross-training in case of an emergency requires forethought). More people or out for longer, and we could be screwed.
"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill
This is true
And why they’re trying to minimize student sickness here (especially because if the place shuts down, students may be demanding that some of that $50,000 tuition be refunded). It’s understandable, but they don’t have to be so dammed alarmist about it. Wake’s had the flu before (during sorority rush, so it spread like wildfire too). We know what to do.
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
you didn't miss anything between the first at bat and the last half inning
well, other than a fausto carmona/nate robertson pitchers duel
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yeah
Saw the 6 shutout innings by Nate and kinda screamed with joy.
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Lets close this out
Haven’t had a sweep since June 23-25 against the cubbies
Our winning pitchers in that series were...
Lyon, Miner, and Galarraga
got a laugh from me
accompanied with a groan. well done.
Raburn
I find it hard to believe at this point of the season that they keep using Raburn for ‘defensive purposes’ . He’s just plain awful.
He's decent with the glove
Better with the bat, but he’s not that horrible. He makes errors, but for the most part, his instincts are good.
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
Wow
Nate did good. All 4 Ks swinging, only walked 2, even GB/FB (good b/c he’s a flyball pitcher), 54 strikes out of 80 pitches.
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I wonder if that growth in his arm really was the source of much of his troubles.
And I wonder if the growth on Dontrelle’s shoulders could be tinkered with surgically to bring back the Dontrelle I love.
Fu-Te
No longer the Knight who says “Ni”… he is now the Knight who says “ekki-ekki-ekki-pitang-zoom-boing”…
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
As long as he's the Knight who gets this last out
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After the game
He should be forced to chop down the biggest tree in the forest… with a herring…
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
Maybe I should leave...
Seems we’re not doing so hot…
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Three hitters in a row got hits after Ni had them
down in the count w/ two strikes. Fuck.
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Sep 3, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
Could have used that runner stranded on 3rd
w/ less than 2 outs now.
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Sep 3, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
Wasted a gem by Robertson...
How odd does that sound?
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
As Bob Seger would say...
I just feel so bad for Nate Robertson…
Is this legal?
I don't know. It's fun, though...
our turn for a bullpen meltdown.
Damn.
by rook34 on Sep 3, 2009 3:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Awright, time to get Zach Miner the win
Sorry Nate, you’re last hour’s news
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Has Baroque posted her adorable rally penguin?
President, Vice President and Secretary of the Casey Crosby Fanclub.
is he coming after the pita chips?
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I'm going to go drop off my rent check
(way to wait til the last minute to pay)
and hopefully return to good news.
G$ played 1B?
So I was taking a look at Laird’s B-R.com page and I noticed something. He played 1 inning at 1B this year.
Where the hell was I?
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Gum time
At my 21st floor office in D.C., I put the last stick of peppermint Stride in my mouth.
A lifelong Tigers fan
I’ll take a Carlos Guillen walk-off single for $500, Alex!
And now at Beyond the Boxscore and Project Prospect!
You all do know the ChiSox are in 3rd, right? I’m constantly rooting for the 3rd place team no matter who it is.
Realistically, you can’t expect both the Twins and ChiSox to just lose completely here on out. If I could freeze them both at 5 GB I’d be perfectly happy.
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Except that has zero impact on us, and just makes those two beat the crap out of each other when they’re in a series together even harder.
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Re-read my post. I said I root for the 3rd place team, not the ChiSox specifically. If the ChiSox get into second again, I start rooting for the Twins.
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With that way of thinking, you could wind up rooting for a team a game back from the Tigers.
Does that really make sense?
Gotcha
Makes sense what you’re saying, but I don’t feel that it’s unreasonable to pull for a team that has no effect on our playoff implications (Cubs) versus a team that has a slim chance (White Sox). Just me.
I give up.
Everyone continue to rage, I’m gonna pay attention to this game.
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I just think that, given that the White Sox and Tigers have 6 or 7 games left
KOing the Sox, and making them give up on the season would benefit the Tigers going into those last two weeks of the season….
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crap.
Making this way too easy on this guy.
by rook34 on Sep 3, 2009 3:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Making shitty pitchers look good...
Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2009 Detroit Tigers.
by BarbaroGarbeyc1984 on Sep 3, 2009 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
Per Yahoo!
Chris Perez ended the month of August with a streak of 17 1/3 consecutive scoreless innings.
I watched him here in St. Louis for 2 years before the trade to the Tribe.
He throws hard, but has no offspeed. Perhaps he has upside but he’s little more than a 1 pitch pitcher that I’ve seen. So may be he’s turned it around. Regardless, the larger point about the trend of Tigers not hitting poor pitching is readily observed throughout the season…
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