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Morning Prowl: Jackson's Fatigue, Washburn's Knee, Bondo's Truck, and Mucho Minors

  Big League Stew's Slumpbot .200 wonders if Edwin Jackson is running out of gas and needs to have his innings limited toward the end of the season.

  Tiger Geist raises a very interesting question about the Jarrod Washburn trade.  Did they realize the extent of the injury to his left knee when the deal was made?

  How important has August 30 been to the Tigers in recent years?  Jon Paul Morosi draws an interesting parallel to what happened on that date in 2006 and what transpired this year.  Coincidence or... destiny?

  Brandon Lyon has his remote-controlled airplanes (when Rick "Heavy Sinker" Porcello isn't chucking them into the turf).  Jeremy Bonderman rolls with remote-controlled four-wheel trucks.  And if Bondo's not careful, his manager might smash that toy.

  How do Fernando Rodney's 2009 numbers rate among other standout seasons by Tigers relievers?  Tiger Tales stacks Rodney up against pitchers such as Aurelio Lopez, Guillermo Hernandez, and Mike Henneman.

  John Lowe believes that Mike Ilitch never wanted to let Magglio Ordonez go, even at mid-season when Maggs was at his lowest production.

  In case you missed it, Dontrelle Willis gave up two runs and six hits in his rehab start for Triple-A Toledo on Saturday.  Willis also totaled two walks and five strikeouts.

  Take 75 North looks at the Lakeland Flying Tigers' just-completed 2009 season.  And though they might not have had the one top-shelf gem to look out for this year, the Flying Tigers had a few prospects worth noting.

  Peter Gammons has big praise for how Jim Leyland has handled Porcello's workload this season, especially compared to the Yankees' approach with Joba Chamberlain.

  John Sickels reviews his preseason rankings (published back in January) of the Tigers' top 20 prospects at Minor League Ball.  It's interesting to see how many made it to the majors this season. 

  In a free article at TigsTown.com, Mark Anderson profiles Cale Iorg.  Has the Tigers' aggressive approach with him paid off?  And has Iorg's sub-par offensive production (.222/.274/.336) changed perception of him among scouts and opposing coaches? 

  As sort of a footnote to an article about the possible shortstop of the future, the Boston Red Sox continue to remind us just how difficult it is to find a good player at that position. 

(Who's had worse luck: The Red Sox with shortstops since 2004 or the Tigers with left fielders since 2006?)

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Because I am a nerd who keeps track of these things

JV and Greinke have been scheduled to pitch on the same days for a couple months now, give or take a few starts. to say I am disappointed they aren’t matched up in the series vs. KC this week would be a huge understatement. it’d be a great pitching duel, and with injured Wash up against Greinke (who is likely to go Friday), well, let’s just say I’m a bit concerned for us. bleh.

by allikazoo on Sep 8, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Verlander v. Greinke is always good...

…but no Greinke at all is even better. It looks like KC is pushing him back to Friday (not against us) instead of him throwing on his regular rest.

by rcpratt on Sep 8, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are they?

well that’s good then. I do love me some zack, but it stresses me out when he’s pitching to our guys ;)

by allikazoo on Sep 8, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wondered about that Washburn physical myself.

Because I didn’t hear anything at the time about “assuming he passes the physical” I thought maybe they didn’t do that anymore with major league players. Very strange that either the doctors didn’t pick up on it or somebody somewhere decided it didn’t matter.

The Illitch/Ordonez article made me want to go out and buy a Little Caesar’s Pizza (although we dont’ have them here) And the people who comment on the Freep articles are idiots.

Now then …we are approaching 48 hours without Tigers Baseball and I am jonesin’.

by NCDee on Sep 8, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did they show the footage of Porcello crashing the plane during the game?

I was at work that day and didn’t see it, but it sounds so funny that I’d love to see it.

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by SabreRoseTiger on Sep 8, 2009 11:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

yeah, it was hilarious.

they had a bit about it on tigers weekly too, but only showed him saying he’s terrible at flying them.. no more crashes, sadly.

by allikazoo on Sep 8, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does anyone else think the red sox look very vulnerable right now?

they’re starting paul byrd, wakefield (who just got back) is hurting again, and their offense has gone limp. if they somehow beat texas to get the wild card, would they be easy pickings (or at least beatable) in the playoffs?

also, i have work so i’ll miss half the game… :(

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by mrsunshine on Sep 8, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would love Texas to win the WC.

1) They’re not the Red Sox, and
2) If the Tigers dominate any team, it’s the Texas Rangers.

by Dberg on Sep 8, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's what they'd be

i’m having flashbacks to the rangers SB Nation blog making reference to tigers-rangers being an ALCS preview.

by Kurt Mensching on Sep 8, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that match up in the opening round better than Yankees-Tigers & Angels-Red Sox.

Let another home run hitting team bash with the Yankees and eat their bullpen.

by 13194013 on Sep 8, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Random idea

Anyone else think that in order to keep the miles off of the arms of Verlander/Jackson/Porcello and to give them some more rest that we should go to a 6 man rotation of Verlander-Jackson-Porcello-Robertson-Washburn-Miner/Galaragga?

Given our division lead (at least as of now), it wouldn’t hurt us too badly to use some of our poorer starters a couple extra times, and the rest given to Verlander/Jackson/Porcello might help them in the playoffs. Thoughts?

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by demondeaconsbaseball on Sep 8, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was kind of thinking the same thing.

or do a miner/ni/whoever spot start somewhere, if galarraga is hurting.

by allikazoo on Sep 8, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if our lead is the same this time next week...

I agree. Too early as of now. White sox are heating up and twins have good schedule upcoming. We need to floor it this week and not give them any window.

by rook34 on Sep 8, 2009 12:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

either that

Or reduce their innings per start – quit with the 100+ pitches and keep them to around 90 or so, but on the same schedule. The bullpen has a bazillion arms in it – may as well use them.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Sep 8, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is the idea I endorse

keep the rust off while toning back the workload.

by Kurt Mensching on Sep 8, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is a good idea too.

as much as letting them go deep into games has helped JV and ejax get wins they might not have otherwise, that shouldn’t be a priority anymore.

by allikazoo on Sep 8, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um, Rodney was suspended.

3 games? Hope we don’t need him for the Royals.

by rcpratt on Sep 8, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

with Lyon, it’s not a big deal as far as the baseball part goes.

But it’s certainly not fair to Rodney.

by Kurt Mensching on Sep 8, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

next time

He’ll have to make sure he deserves it – maybe buzz someone and start a brawl.

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Sep 8, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just meant i'm glad we have lyon

if rodney is suspended. totally not fair, regardless.

by allikazoo on Sep 8, 2009 1:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Well, at least he's not being charged with reckless endangerment or something

Wasn’t there a case last year of a minor leaguer chucking a ball into the crowd during a brawl and getting criminally charged for his actions?

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by ahtrap on Sep 8, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe this'll learn me to google BEFORE posting

Was this seriously just last month?

http://deadspin.com/5330040/minor-leaguer-convicted-of-assault-after-basebrawl-gone-wrong

There’s a link to video of the brawl on the original deadspin story on the brawl, which DID happen last year.

http://deadspin.com/5029015/mayhem-in-the-midwest-league

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by ahtrap on Sep 8, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, he wasn't really throwing it AT anything

he just took the ball, turned and chucked it without looking. Which is a pretty poor decision, of course. Well, i don’t think he really decided anything, I think he just acted.

He definitely deserved to hear about it, probably a fine. But 3 games, that’s crazy.

by Kurt Mensching on Sep 8, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From what you're saying I agree that 3 days is too much

but throwing at the guys who write everything down probably did him in. I’m sure someone was on the phone 10 seconds after it happened.

by murrajo on Sep 8, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe Mario said

“Not cool.”

Somebody could get hurt, which is why it’s bad even without malice. But I dunno, 3 games? crazy talk. Example setting I guess.

by Kurt Mensching on Sep 8, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, 3 games is a bit much but he did deserve to be suspended for a really dumb action.

As soon as I saw him throw that ball I figured he’d be riding pine.

by 13194013 on Sep 8, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hope those aren't famous last words :)

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by ahtrap on Sep 8, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't like rollercoasters much?

"For myself I am an optimist - it does not seem to be much use being anything else." -- Winston S. Churchill

by Baroque on Sep 8, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

always seems risky to appeal

especially when this is probably the least critical series for the rest of the season. But hopefully it will be reduced.

by rcpratt on Sep 8, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

buzzkill....

But at least we have lyon. Perry could probably throw if necessary. Hopefully we win 8-2 three straight and it is irrelevant.

by rook34 on Sep 8, 2009 1:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Ole Sr. Smoke...

People loved this guy, almost as much as the Birdman, But, I don’t recall Sr. Smoke or Willie G H, having as much trouble getttin outta games as Rodney does. I’m pretty sure, ole Sparky wouldn’t have allowed them to walk &/or load up the bases like he does either. Ya, idk what’s up w/ this suspend, don’t guys throw balls into the stands all the time? wtf

by LTownDown on Sep 8, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Willie, during his Cy Young year, was automatic.

And Mike Henneman was pretty damned good as a closer too.

by 13194013 on Sep 8, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let Rodney sit out this series.

KC looked weak even in yesterday’s win.
Watched the condensed game and they only hit 4-5 balls hard all night, but 2 were HR by butler. Their defense was atrocious, but Angels were worse.

I'm hittin' .361, don't y'all mess with me.

by StorminNormanCash on Sep 8, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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