McGwire admits the obvious: "I used steroids"
I know this isn't really Tigers related (save for all the tape measure home runs Big Mac hit at Tiger Stadium), but Mark McGwire finally copping to the use of steroids is worthy of comment.
From McGwire's statement to the media:
"I never knew when, but I always knew this day would come. It's time for me to talk about the past and to confirm what people have suspected. I used steroids during my playing career and I apologize. I remember trying steroids very briefly in the 1989/1990 off season and then after I was injured in 1993, I used steroids again. I used them on occasion throughout the '90s, including during the 1998 season.
I wish I had never touched steroids. It was foolish and it was a mistake. I truly apologize. Looking back, I wish I had never played during the steroid era."
Is this McGwire's way of appealing to the Hall of Fame voters, or is he just attempting to get the worst out of the way before taking the field in spring training as the St. Louis Cardinals' hitting coach?
Either way, no one should be surprised by McGwire's mea culpa.
The 'roids cat is officially out of the bag. Feel free to flame away.
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I would like to see him pinch hitting
Just to see him hit a 300 pop fly every time he bats.
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I, for one, am shocked!
Shocked, I say!
Still ain’t votin’ him into Cooperstown. Of course, it’s not like I have a vote, and sportswriters eat crap like this up. I expect that the standard will become, if it’s not now, “if he says he’s sorry, and his name isn’t ‘Barry Bonds,’ I’ll vote for him.” At least among the younger, more malleable guys.
Looking back, I wish I had never played during the steroid era.
Or in other words, “Yeah I did it, but they made me do it.” Obviously, the fact he used steroids doesn’t surprise me, but he failed at a chance to have a clean admission and take full responsibility for his actions.
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I agree, I hate crap like that
Everyone in life needs to take responsibility for their own actions, not blame society or others for decision they made.
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by Kurt Mensching on Jan 11, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Well put, Packey
I had to laugh at the “I used very briefly” and “on occasion” comments.
You don’t look like Mcgwire did at his 70 HR peak by using ’roids “on occasion.”
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That made me laugh
He said he wished he never played during the steroid era?! Ha. Is that because he wishes that he could’ve gotten away with it? That’s the way that I see it. Not that he is blaming others of making him do it so much as him wishing that playing in another era would’ve allowed him to get away with doing this without any suspicion or witch hunt. This is absolutely one of the WORST and most hilarious apologies ever.
I would vote for him into the Hall
But I would have before he admitted this as well. I just accept this as part of the game during that time and hope that it finally has been cleaned up (but I’m not sold yet).
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I'm on the fence
And it has nothing to do with PED’s. With Big Mac, I look at a guy who really only excelled in 2 phases of the game: HR and walks. He didn’t provide much value to his teams on the basepaths or with the glove and wasn’t a “hitter” as much as he was a “slugger” (I think the .263 career BA and 583 HR would attest to that). He was a top 5 MVP guy only 3 times, never winning the award. And I find it hard to call a guy a Hall of Famer who threw up batting lines of .231/.339/.467, .235/.370/.489, and .201/.330/.383 in what were ostensibly his prime years.
I would too
Mac had a similar HR/AB ratio as Babe Ruth. [Insert kids from The Sandlot screaming “BABE RUTH?!”] He might have bulked up, but he still needed to be able to put the bat on the ball to hit all those HR’s. And it’s not like he was a tiny guy (like Barry Bonds…) to begin with. Yeah, he got bigger, but he was already a strong guy.
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by Rob Rogacki on Jan 14, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
pathetically predictable.
Obviously something was coming before spring training. Only Yankees do steroid mea culpas at spring training. I have Posada this year for 50 bucks.
by rook34 on Jan 11, 2010 4:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jeter will admit it in 2012
That’s what the Mayans predicted anyway. At least I’m assuming the world would end if Jeter was a cheater. ;-)
by ChrisDTX on Jan 11, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And then he'll wake up on December 23, and go, "oh, crap!"
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I have zero problems with steroids. That said, I’m honestly not sure he’s an HOFer even just based on his numbers. He hit a lot of homers but nothing aside from that.
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Helped greatly by the intentional BB.
Career walk percentage (BB%; BB/Plate appearances) = 17% even.
Minus the IBB’s and you get 15.1%.
But the major impact in his career, in terms of IBB’s, were in the latter part of his career. First 8 seasons: 14.3% BB rate (548 BB’s, 3834 PA’s) and 13.1% BB rate if you remove his 46 IBB’s over that period.
His final 8 seasons, he had a BB rate of 19.5% (880 BB’s, 4504 PA’s,) and if you remove his 121 IBB’s in that period, you get just a BB% of 16.9%.
And that doesn’t account for any pitching around of McGwire that may have occurred in that time period that led to excess walks — the same thing happens to Albert Pujols and most of the big sluggers in the game. Sure, they have great patience and McGwire was still an elite OBP guy, but it became overly inflated later in his career due to an unwillingness to pitch to him.
I guess you can argue that implementing that ‘fear’ into people was a trait of his (and I’d actually give some credence to that), but there wasn’t a ton of value he gave you outside of the HR (the best hit he could have).
Also: to illustrate how important those IBB’s were to his career, i’ve calculated his wOBA (without stolen bases since they likely wouldn’t do much to his total) and just using BB’s it is .414 and without it is .400 — over the course of his entire career, that’s roughly 100 runs worth of value (if we assume a .340 league average wOBA but I don’t know if that .340’s accurate at all. probably not) — or about half a win per year in inflated offensive value due to the IBB.
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And through all of that, i think, based on precedents, he’s someone who I would vote for. I’m not entirely sure it’s a 100% slam dunk when you cast aside the steroid confessions and just go on the numbers. He had a lot of negative value attached to him when you consider the position, the bad defense, the bad base running, etc etc.
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Roger Maris . . .
. . . isn’t in the Hall of Fame, either.
(although maybe he should be)
Thanks, Mac. Now just admit that you're 46
I’m happy to see him be honest (I was a fan of his growing up) but we’ve pretty much known ever since he went before Congress and blithered, which reminded me very much of the following exchange from circa 1989:
Father: Did you punch your little brother?
Little brother: [wailing noise]
Older brother: Dad, I want you to know that I really love you and mom and my baby brother. I love him and he is my brother.
Father: Your brother is crying and says you hit him.
Little brother: [more wailing]
Father: Did you hit him?
Little brother: He punched me in my [sob] leg
Older brother: I love my brother very much. And you, Dad. And mom. I love my family.
Little brother: [sob]
Older brother: [sob]
If older brother came out in 2009 and said “I hit him in the thigh and it was stupid,” well, okay, but we kind of knew that already.
by Misopogon on Jan 11, 2010 4:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
What if he came out and said
“I’m sorry I lived in the punch-your-brother-in-the-thigh era”?
(Btw—I would like to point out that, unlike encephalitic foreheads and ridiculously jacked up power numbers, little siblings do lie).
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by rock n rye on Jan 11, 2010 4:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Wait a minute...
… McGwire used steroids? Next thing you know, Alex Rodriguez will say that he used steroids too.
I've been sleeping really well lately.
All the steroids sure have helped.
by frisbeepilot on Jan 11, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Good timing on Mark's part.
I feel another one of those steroid list name leaks has been long overdue. The conversation will end in 2 days when that name comes out.
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How sorry is that he made all that money playing in the steroid era? Will he be giving any of it back? If so, let me know and I’ll take some of it off his hands.
i think he should be in the hall
people are looking at the steroid era through current mlb-steroid-free lenses. that is wrong.
+1000
I agree. There was nothing wrong with it at the time, so why should he be punished for something that happened later? It’s like saying to old-time basketball players that they didn’t hit enough 3-pointers to make the Hall of Fame before the 3-point line was invented.
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yeah it's a stretch, I know
but it was the best analogy I could think of at the time
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So, he finally admitted using roids. Good for him, and I believe he is sincerely sorry, because he has seen what an impact it has had on his career and reputaion. But, people forget the HOF is full of cheats. There has always been cheats in baseball. From sandpaper, to pinetar, to corked bats to using vaseline on the brim of your hat., to sharpening your spikes to take a guy out at second base. Do I agree with it? Of course not. Buts lets be realistic. The roid era was just the modern era of a way of cheating. But, he who is without sin cast the first stone. You still have to stand at the plate, wait for the pitch, time your swing, hit the ball squarely and hit it out of the park. Can roids do that? I guess the early answer is yes it has something to do with it. But, lets not just single out the few who have come to light within this whole scandal. Probably 80% of the players were using roids during this era. And, how many snuck in to the HOF who used roids before it all came to light. The man has stepped forward for his transgressions. As humans thats all we ask. Does he belong in the Hal? I would have to say probaly not. But, I do admire Mark McGwire and I forgive him. PLAY BALL!!!
Well said...
I agree….this handwringing over PED’s by the “holier than thou” crowd is largely hypocritical poppycock.
Players have ALWAYS sought advantage in all forms of competition going back to the 1860’s when suspected “professionals” were playing the gentlemen’s game. Greenies were used back into the 60’s, at the very least, and there is no one in the 90’s who is above suspicion. Gamblers, racists, spitballers, drug users, and, yes, PED users are all already in the Hall of Fame and there’s a good portion of the media voters are guys living in glass houses, who shouldn’t be throwing stones as they arbitrarily apply a “ban” to SOME steroid users. This litmus test will come to an end when confronted by Bonds & Clemens.
The fact is, McGwire was the biggest name in baseball for several years, with sellout crowds watching batting practice. The IBB stat is a testament to his presence. THAT type of dominance is the definition of a Hall of Famer.
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He is an idiot
I watched a blurb from his interview and he states that he only used steriods to fight injury. Never to enhance his performance. He went on to say that he believes he has a gift and would have hit all those homers without steriod use, because they never enhanced his performance anyway. Whatever……What’s he been smokin?

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