[UPDATE] The Mechanics of a Good Pitch...
Given the boredom of the offseason I decided to start studying something that has piqued my curiosity. That curiosity being being pitching mechanics. After some studying of my own I decided why not have the BYB community here either learn with me and/or help me learn along the way? I don't know if I'm the first member here to delve into this area specifically but I think it'll be a fun experience for us all. Plus posting stuff here will give me reason to keep on studying it.
I really couldn't think of a way to properly break this down because good video is hard to come by if you don't get it yourself and I really don't really have the means to do that nor do I have any real way to do frame by frames with videos. So I did some looking around and the best way I think I can do this for you guys is via a checklist I found from pitching.com. The checklist after the jump.
So I figured I'd start easy and look at a guy who has some pretty darn good mechanics. That guy is Justin Verlander. The tall, hard throwing, right handed, former ROY, and ace of the Tigers staff. Heres the best video I could come up with via pitchingclips.com.
Here are the advantages of different view points from video. From the side I can more easily see things like how high the elbow gets, when the hands separate, arm swing, foot separation, how high the knee comes. From the front side I can see a few important things as well. Where the head points, where the plant foot lands, arm action after the pitch...basically things regarding how the pitcher lines himself with homplate.
Now the checklist based upon the video from above. (note: because I only have the one video, I'm forced to skip a few checkpoints. I'll still cover what I can I'll offer some extra explanation to other things after the list.)
- Speed of movement/Tempo: This is easily analyzed with frame by frame video, but I don't have that but it's obvious that Verlander moves fast. Check
- Is the pitcher relaxed? This is more of a judgement call if you ask me. But Verlander's whole windup looks fluid from start to finish with no stressful looking motions. So I'd say Verlander is pretty relaxed. Check
- Does the pitcher move from a bent leg to get lower leading with his front hip and does he land on a flexed leg in a straight line toward the plate? You'll notice in the clip that right before Justin moves his plant leg (front leg) forward he bends his back leg. The advantage in this is it allows you to get your plant leg the proper distance forward which is approximately 80-90% of the pitchers height. Verlander does this. So check.
- How does the plant foot fall in relation to home plate? This to me is very important because this can affect momentum. Seeing how most of a pitches velocity comes from the core and legs and not the arm anything involving any part down in those area's can affect velocity but location can also be affected. If the foot is pointing to far back, the entire bodies forward momentum is affected thus affecting velocity. If the foot is turned too much toward homeplate, over rotation of the hips and shoulders can occur and affect location by misaligning the body. I can't see his foot but given his '09 season, I'd say he's doing ok. Shoulder alignment at release at least tells me his foot isn't too far forward. Check.
- Is the pitcher properly generating forward momemtum? Lumping a few checkpoints together here because a bunch deal with this in mind. I'll just tell you guys what I see. Hands separate before moving forward? check. Front knee come to stomach/chest level? check. Hips rotate before shoulders? check. Arm is swung instead of picked up? check. All of these things deal with gaining momentum to drive the pitch and Verlander does them all. Check.
- Is there any unnecessary movements? Moving side to side, leaning forward/backward, strange motion with the leg kick, etc. Verlander doesn't do any of that stuff. He aint Dontrelle after all.
- How is the head positioned at ball release? Ideally a pitcher is looking forward at this point (towards home) and the head is over the knee of his plant leg. This is easier determined by a side view but I can make a pretty good judgment from this view and say it looks pretty good. check.
- Do the hands move in rhythm with the legs? Now here is one problem I have with Verlanders windup but it is a small one to me given the high tempo at which he works. Normally or at least ideally the pitchers hands move toward the chin at the same time the leg kick begins with the plant foot. This is about rhythm aka making sure the hands/arms don't get ahead of the legs/core. No rhythm means less velocity and poor location because everything becomes disjointed. It works for Verlander because you could call starting his hands at his chin a quick hand raise that matches how quick is leg kick and succeeding movements are.
Just a couple more points about pitching mechanics.
- The elbow should never go above shoulder level. This causes undo stress upon the throwing arm.
- Do not over extend the joints. Basically your plant foot should be bent upon landing and your elbow of your throwing arm shouldn't be straight.
- The glove should be tucked up into the arm at ball release. This helps create a more natural follow thru thus reducing stress upon the throwing arm.
- Always remember that most of the velocity on a pitch comes from the core, hips, and legs. Proper planting, pushing off, and rotation are very important to gaining velocity. When executing a pitch properly the actual throwing arm should feel very little stress.
Hope you guys enjoy this. I plan to keep on studying this stuff and doing breakdowns of other players mechanics. Mostly I'll point out the bad instead of the good points and connect them with stats/pitch fx. If theres a guy you want me to try and breakdown mechanically just let me know. If you think of someone please try to find some video for me. I can judge more from side view than I can a front view. At least at this point in analysis ability.
[UPDATE] Found a cool list like thing that gives a complete overview of how a pitching motion ideally should go via The Complete Pitcher. The article is here.
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I've been trying to find a good video of him.
I’ve found one of him in single-A ball but I’d prefer one of him in the Majors. We’ll see though. I’m gonna do some more scouting around. I haven’t searched hard yet though.
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I read Texas Leaguers, <a href="http://vwww.baseball-intellect.com" target="new">Baseball-Intellect (except it’s mostly paywall,now) and Driveline Mechanics. Texas Leaguers is the more active website of them all.
For me, it’s about elbow position, where the arm is at foot plant, the tempo of the pitcher, length of the stride, not throwing across his body, etc etc. I’m not even an ‘hobbyist’ let alone an expert, though. Also, I haven’t delved into these things much lately and have forgotten some stuff.
Follow project prospect.com as well and read articles by Lincoln Hamilton if he has any scouting ones.
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thanks for the resources.
I’m still learning but I’m finding the best way to learn is to watch video. I’m bookmarking those links. I’m really enjoying learning about this stuff.
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Unfortunately, B-I is moving towards more pay-walled stuff, Texas Leaguers and Driveline haven’t really had much posting at all. So, there’s a void that’s happening at the moment in the mechanics-breakdown niche online. Unless there’s other sites I don’t know of.
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by Mike Rogers on Jan 20, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
pitching.com has good articles...
but it is kinda hard right now to learn about it. Pretty much it’s watch and learn right now. What I’m actually gonna start doing is start making an actual section of my own personal blog devoted to pitching mechanics and what I’m writing about them. Because I’m intending to help people learn while I learn I figure it could end up being a decent database of information.
Just had a thought while typing, I think my next post is gonna be on terminology used within pitching mechanics.
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Word. I’d say make them some fan shots as well, as I’m really interested in reading them. I’ll shoot off an email to Steve Carter of Project Prospect (who breaks down hitters) on where he gets his .gifs and if there’s a site like that for hitters. Should help out.
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This site has good stuff as well...
http://www.drivelinebaseball.com/
Same guy who manages Driveling Mechanics. It’s its training website.
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Back in the day...
I pitched in high school, little league, pony…whatever. Even found out AFTER I came in the service that there was scholarship interest..anyways…I’d gone to a few pitching clinics and wow…that checklist has been around for a while. It sure did wonders for my senior year in high school.
I’d never been a velocity guy (my curveball was my forte)… I usually topped out around 83 mph or so. After “getting fixed” my speed topped out around 90. It took some stinkin work though. I must’ve thrown a bajillion pitches during the fall and winter of my senior year getting ready for the season that following spring. And after hearing about how much Verlander was getting jerked around during the 08 season it really made sense.
All those things in the checklist when viewed independently, it’s real easy to just nod along and say yep, can see how that makes a difference. But to actually put them all into one package….it’s a real eye opener after you’re told you’re doing all but one thing WRONG.
the subtleties of it
I remember, maybe back in the 2008 season, someone had found (or was the person) who looked at Verlander’s pitching motion season to season. I think it was a bit of an article about the pitching coach, because it seemed part of the coaching was getting him to not fall forward, but to “control” himself and get in good fielding position. When really, the pitchers job is to pitch, there are infielders to get the ball. [this is when he was not performing up to the level we would expect]
And as far as it looking good and easy, who was that guy for the Cubs…pitched lights out when he was young and has been broken ever since. Went to the Padres fairly recently I think…the name is just right there I can’t remember it. He looked so natural and easy and just broke down.
DAMN YOU DUSTY BAKER!!!!
Smooth, easy, just the most gorgeous pitching movement I ever saw – even for 130 pitches in one game.
Sometimes pitch counts are important. Damn Dusty Baker.
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