Tigers outright Jeff Larish to Toledo

If you were still wondering who Tigers would lop off the 40 man roster in order or make room for new closer Jose Valverde, wonder no more.

Also worth noting; the Tigers now have more pitchers (21) than position players on their roster.

Source: Jason Beck, Beck's Blog

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I still liked Jeff Larish…

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by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2010 12:32 PM EST reply actions

Can I apply for VP of Membership for the CC Fan Club

I figure my job will be a breeze by 2011 or 2012… until then I will simply continue my unnatural amount of research and interest in regards to Casey. Thanks for consideration.

by JoelZumayaKegStand on Jan 26, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions

Hey, that's cool with me

Just change your signature. Mine is probably getting a bit old anyways..

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by David Tokarz on Jan 26, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions

Happy to be part of this winning organization

and the family atmosphere it brings

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by JoelZumayaKegStand on Jan 26, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions

Was never a big fan....

…..Swing was way to big

by BennieBladesFan on Jan 25, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions

I have always like Larish’s swing, it is very quiet and not really very long, especially for a power guy
Swing
The biggest problem for Larish is that he profiles for positions that are either entirely (first base) or basically (corner outfield) locked up

by rif23 on Jan 25, 2010 12:53 PM EST reply actions

No opinion on him

He was never really given much of a chance in Detroit. He needed more at bats and opportunities that were no where to be found in Detroit.

by DetroitTigersGeek on Jan 25, 2010 1:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions

This

I still think there are AB to be found (DH/Corner OF rotation could net him 400-500), but he isn’t getting them here, which is unfortunate.

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by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah. Agreed.

I really don’t know why he wasn’t given more opportunities in Detroit. Leyland to “blame” perhaps? He doesn’t seem to have consistent confidence in young players (like Larish not getting adequate playing time), yet is fine with other youngsters (Cletus, Donnie Kelly, et al). Head-scratcher in my opinion.

by DetroitTigersGeek on Jan 25, 2010 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

thanks for the confirmation

I was wondering about the position player – pitcher ratio. hahaha.

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by allikazoo on Jan 25, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions

21-19??

facepalm.

by Arvay7 on Jan 25, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions

actually

upon inspecting 4-5 other rosters, it’s almost the norm.

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by allikazoo on Jan 25, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions

to me

it doesn’t matter so much when you have so many holes for (what is hopefully) a playoff contender.

we REALLY need a lefthanded bat, and every reliever we have takes away a roster spot for somebody to take that role. Especially when you consider that leyland doesn’t trust a lot of relievers (he TENDS to stick to the ones that throw strikes, that he can depend on), so I don’t think we’ll get the use out of that many pitchers as other teams might (and don’t get me started on relief pitching versus starting pitching discrepancies). still a facepalm for this team imho

by Arvay7 on Jan 26, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions

Intersting...

I didn’t have much of an opinion on Larish either, but how is he (a left handed hitter with power, regardless of his defensive position) less valuable to this team than Brad Thomas?

If I keep this up, I am going to work myself into having an opinion on the matter.

by trross1200 on Jan 25, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

Yes he is......

……less valuable then Brad Thomas.

by BennieBladesFan on Jan 25, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions

The question is how??

Because I would argue that your opinion is wrong.

by baum on Jan 25, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions

LH hitter with power is more valuable

Than a lefty reliever that hasn’t pitched in the Bigs in how many years?

Not a hard case to make.

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by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions

That would depend . . .

. . . on whether he was a good LH hitter with power, wouldn’t it?

by rea on Jan 25, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions

He got 200 PA hurt.

Really going to judge him on that?

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by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions

I'm with you on this

I disagree with the notion that Brad Thomas is more valuable than Larish. He never got a fair and extended chance.

by baum on Jan 26, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions

I'm not sure

the decision was so much about value, as who they felt was a safe bet to make it through to Toledo. It is just a feeling, but i think more teams would have a use for a LOOGY reliever than a pretty low ceiling 1B/DH. It is a lot easier to find innings for a guy like Thomas than at-bats for Larish.

by rif23 on Jan 26, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions

.260 with 25hr and an above average OBP

Not league average.

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by David Tokarz on Jan 26, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions

The real question is

when he peeks out from under his batting helmet will he see his shadow.

/6 more weeks of winter :-(

by 30% Stud - 70% Muffin on Jan 25, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions

Sooo...

Do we expect him to be in Toledo, or picked up by someone else? Did he have options left?

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by ewild on Jan 25, 2010 2:10 PM EST reply actions

Apparently I was wrong...

But I thought Larish was our Inge-surance at 3b.

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by ewild on Jan 25, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions

Donnie Kelly can play third

and Raburn can too, but we all know how that tends to go.

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by allikazoo on Jan 25, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions

Outrighted

When a roster move is announced as a player being outrighted, it means they have cleared waivers and are being assigned to a minor league team. Options only come into play when players are moving between the 40-man roster and the 25-man roster.

It’s difficult to argue this was a bad move when 29 other teams passed on adding him to their own 40-man rosters. If the Tigers find they need him, they can just add him back. This second part is just a general comment, not directed at you, ewild.

by mattintoledo on Jan 26, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs

Gotchya

Thanks for that explanation.
I’m glad Larish is still under team control at least.

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by ewild on Jan 26, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions

That's good then

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by David Tokarz on Jan 26, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions

ah

I had forgotten about Kelly.

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by ewild on Jan 25, 2010 2:29 PM EST reply actions

how many of those 21 are left handed relievers?

actually, I just checked, and it looks like 6, depending on how you classify Phil Coke and Nate Robertson.

I also see Jacob Turner on the 40 man roster, has there been any talk of him making it to Detroit this year?

Didn’t realize that he had the same birthday as me…just 16 years later…that’s just the tiniest bit depressing.

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by ahtrap on Jan 25, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions

Turner won’t be in detroit this year. He is on the 40-man roster because, like porcello, he signed a Major League deal after being drafted. If he’s in Detroit this year, he better be on a vacation with his family or the Tigers making a huge mistake that would make me stop rooting for them.

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by Mike Rogers on Jan 25, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions

More depressing...

This is more annoying than depressing but
Turner’s around my age, and he’s making $5+ million dollars more than I will ever make. But I can’t throw 98 mph heat either.
And no, throwing a high school pitcher into a fast pased major league game would be a huge mistake. Look for him to emerge in 2011. He won’t be in the majors as soon as Porcello, I don’t think. He’s not as polished.
It’s too bad his contract was a major league one because his options will get burned each year he’s not on the major league team, and he takes up a roster spot.

by DetroitTigersGeek on Jan 25, 2010 4:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I'd say 2012

Turner is good, but young arms take a while to develop. Correct me if I’m wrong, but he’s 18, right?

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by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions

Oops!

Yeah! 2012 at the earliest!
I was still living in 2009!
Anyway, we have a sick rotation in the future:
Verlander, Porcello, Scherzer, Crosby, and Turner. Assuming they all stay in the organization, of course!

by DetroitTigersGeek on Jan 25, 2010 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

And pan out...

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by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions

Sucks. There’s just no where for Larish to play. He’s not an OFer and 1st/3rd is locked up. If given the proper number of AB’s, he’d be a solid Three True Outcomes player — lots of K’s, BB’s and probably 25+ HR’s.

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by Mike Rogers on Jan 25, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions

He's not great at 3B

I’d say either 1B or LF are his only options… though he’d make a good DH.

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by David Tokarz on Jan 25, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions

IMO

He’s actualy a lot better than Raburn at third. Then again that doesn’t really say much does it?!

by JAYRC on Jan 25, 2010 3:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I don’t think he’s good anywhere than 1st — and he’s only average at 1st anyways. He was going to hurt us defensively anywhere he played. I was hoping he’d get a shot though.

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by Mike Rogers on Jan 25, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions

With Inge coming off double knee surgery...

I thought Larish had a serious shot this Spring. His defense at first and third is far superior to Raburn or Kelly and we all know that we need a left handed bat. It just seemed like a good fit to me, I was pretty sure Jeff would get some ABs from the DH slot as well.

You gotta give the guy a chance before you give up on him. What’s next, outright Wells, Boesch, Strieby and Ramirez too?

Oh well…

by JAYRC on Jan 25, 2010 3:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions