Ted Lilly signs with Dodgers

I agree with all that you have said. I would love to see Gio also, but his home/road splits are a little worrisome. His W-L record isn’t terrible (8-3 at home, 7-6 on the road) but his ERA is almost a 1.50 run higher on the road, his BABIP is almost .100 points higher on the road and his WHIP is about .250 – .300 higher on the road. The flip side to that is his SO/BB ratio is better on the road (in fact he has less walks and more strikeouts total on the road) and he was excellent the second half of the season pitching in less than 6 innings only once, sported a 2.10 SO/BB ratio and a .268 BABIP.

I would not mind him coming over at all, I like Gio, especially because I’m sure he would cost a bit less than those other pitchers named. He’s a very good pitcher but I would be a little weary of him at first.

until he shaves his Mario moustache. He looks like a fool.

There’s no real reason for LA to do so, unless they get a monster offer from someone.

He might pan out, and he might not.

His fly ball tendencies would probably thrive somewhat in Detroit, but he’s not exactly a rare commodity. Develop the young’ns instead.

Has been consistent in big leagues whip 1.18 career, 1.16 last year. Now he is 35. Wonder what the market price will be?

Pass on Guthrie. He’s defense dependent and ours will suck next year. Gonzalez would cost us Turner and Oliver at least, so he’s out. Greinke would cost us Porcello/Turner/Oliver at least so he’s out (and his decline in ability also scares the hell out of me). Garza wouldn’t be bad if we could get him for Oliver and a lesser prospect, but I have a feeling they’d ask for Turner, which I wouldn’t do (Garza is a flyball pitcher coming off a season in which he put up a 4.51 xFIP and 4.42 FIP- hell, I’d say Oliver could do that as soon as next year).

To be honest, signing Cliff Lee would be the best option of them all. And I’d consider talking to Toronto about flipping Boesch for one of their starters (especially an injured Dustin McGowan). I’m not really convinced we need to make a grand splash as much as we need depth. We’ve got a pair of aces at the top of the rotation (Verlander/Scherzer). We’re missing above average pitchers to slide in behind them.

Lion loss still smarting…..ouch

After Lee, there are probably some GM’s that would have had Lilly as the next best option, and the best lefty option among SP’s. Pavano probably gets the salary, but not three years if only because of his recent injury history. Kuroda is older, Padilla has health concerns every year, so there are differences. I think this deal is good for both sides.

Harang intrigues me. I think he still has the ability to be a dependable mid to back end rotation starter. A change of scenery could help, though going to the AL may end up hard on Harang.

I’m skeptical, though. ERA’s of 4.78, 4.21 and 5.32, with WHIP’s of 1.38, 1.41, and 1.58 over the last three seasons, all in the NL Central. Only 20 starts and 111 Innings in 2010. He had some back issues in mid season, then was moved to the bullpen in September.

those numbers, especially national league, gawd aweful

nothing to lose, why not

Are you talking about Toledo? If not I would demand the whole front office to be fired if they put all those arms in the pen. That could be the highest bullpen ERA in tigers history if they ever did that. Wilk needs to get hitters out at AAA before he is even considerd. Oliver as a spot starter and the rest belong in AAA and AA this year.

This sets the bar…11-12M per year for Lilly should get Pavano about the same amount in my estimation. That puts Lee at….substantially more. Some of the other guys, like Vazquez and Kuroda, should be in this ballpark as well.