Detroit Tigers Top 25 Prospects
Before we begin, a word about my prospecting biases. I don't pay much attention to anything below the full-season leagues (West Michigan and higher). I'm more a stats guy than a scouting report guy, though I try to pay attention to both. I take criticism well, so please use the comments to apply it liberally. Where statistics are used, they are the player's combined 2010 minor league statistics, unless otherwise noted.
(This has also been posted at SBN's www.minorleagueball.com)
1. Jacob Turner, RHP, Grade A
Turner had as good a professional debut as anyone could have hoped. His command/control looks better than expected (only 1.8 BB/9 across two levels). Some were undoubtedly disappointed by "only" 8 K/9 across the two levels.
2. Andy Oliver, LHP, Grade B+
Oliver more than handled an aggressive assignment at AA, though he should not have been pushed to AAA/MLB. The strikeouts were there (8.2 K/9 in AA and AAA), but he walks too many (3.5 BB/9) and he gives up a few too many HR (0.9 HR/9). Though he still seems to be relying primarily on his excellent FB/CH combo, I've heard that he made good strides in rediscovering his missing breaking pitch.
3. Casey Crosby, LHP, Grade B
A lost season for Crosby. He's already come back once from a missing season; hopefully he can do it again.
4. Nick Castellanos, 3B, Grade B
As high as I am willing to go on nothing but scouting reports and a few PAs in rookie ball (though both look promising). I'm excited to see what he can do in a full season. It definitely looks like he has the highest ceiling of Detroit's position prospects.
5. Dan Schlereth, LHP, Grade B
As high as I'm willing to go on a reliever who walks every batter he faces (6.2 BB/9 in AAA). Love the strikeouts, though (10.2 K/9 in AAA). Highest upside among Detroit's relief prospects.
6. Brayan Villareal, RHP, Grade B
Plenty of strikeouts (9.5 K/9), okay walk rate (2.7 BB/9), too many HR (1.0 HR/9). One of my favorite Tiger prospects.
7. Adam Wilk, LHP, Grade B-
The anti-Andy Oliver: mediocre raw stuff, low walk rate (1.3 BB/9 in Adv-A and AA), low K rate (6.1 K/9), low HR rate (0.5 HR/9). He's handled every level he's faced despite mediocre stuff. He has the best control/command in the system, and (if he doesn't hit his developmental wall in AAA) he should make a fine back-of-the-rotation starter. Another personal favorite.
8. Daniel Fields, CF, Grade B-
Fields handled an aggressive assignment in the Florida State League despite being one of its youngest players (age 19). Reports on his defense are good, and it sounds like he has excellent raw speed (though this hasn't translated to the basepaths--he's been caught stealing more times than he's been successful). He took lots of walks (in more than 12.5% of his PAs), struck out a lot (in more than 30% of his ABs), and he flashed some occasional power (.131 ISO). Another personal favorite.
9. Francisco Martinez, 3B, Grade B-
Martinez provides an interesting contrast to Fields. Both played in the FSL at age 19, though Martinez showed better contact and baserunning instincts, while Fields showed better power and patience. If all goes well, he could be an average to slightly above Major League third baseman who hits for a good average, steals some bases, and provides solid defense. Think pre-2010 Chone Figgins (without all the walks).
10. Charlie Furbush, LHP, Grade B-
Destroyed Advanced A, handled AA, met his match in AAA. He'll certainly start the year in AAA, though I wouldn't be surprised to see him take Galarraga's spot in the Tigers' rotation before too long.
11. Casper Wells, RHP, Grade B-
May be an aggressive grade for a 25 year old who just got his first taste of the big leagues after struggling in AAA to begin the year, but I really like Wells. He's an above average fielder in the corners with loads of power and decent patience. At worst, he's an above average fourth outfielder who can play all three OF positions and provide some pop off the bench. At best, he's an average to above regular with a low BA, middling OBP, and high SLG.
12. Robbie Weinhardt, RHP, Grade C+
Should be a good middle reliever. His first taste of the big leagues looks worse (6.14 ERA) than it actually was (3.47 FIP).
13. Cole Nelson, LHP, Grade C+
Good stuff, high upside, need data
14. Alex Burgos, LHP, Grade C+
Good stuff, high upside, need data
15. Ryan Strieby, 1B/LF, Grade C+
Will his wrist ever be healthy? Can he cut down the strikeouts?
16. Lester Oliveros, RHP, Grade C+
Good raw stuff, lots of strikeouts. Health issues and control/command issues are concerns
17. Zach Simons, RHP, Grade C+
Will he ever get his well-deserved shot?
18. Brandon Douglas, 2B, Grade C+
Had a really good year--high BA, some walks and gap power.
19. Wade Gaynor, 3B, Grade C
Handled single-A, but probably not as well as we might have hoped for a 22-year old, 3rd round pick.
20. Alfredo Figaro, RHP, Grade C
He might still have a shot in Detroit's rotation, but with the strong SP in the system, it's looking less and less likely. If he makes it, it will probably be in the bullpen with occasional spot starts.
21. Rob Brantly, C, Grade C
Did okay at single-A West Michigan. Relatively high-upside catcher who hits for a good average with good plate discipline.
22. Rawley Bishop, 1B, Grade C
He's done well, but he's probably too old for his competition, and 1B is not a good place to be if you are a Tigers prospect.
23. Danny Worth, SS, Grade C
All glove, no bat. Could be the next Adam Everett, but more likely just a backup infielder.
24. Bryan Holaday, C, Grade C
I've heard his leadership skills touted, which is a good thing if your ceiling is an MLB backup catcher.
25. Andy Dirks, OF, Grade C
Could be a decent fourth outfielder, but probably nothing more.
Others: Audy "SS of the Future" Ciriaco, Brent Dlugach, Casey Fien, L. J. Gagnier, Cale "Future All-Star" Iorg, Jamie Johnson, Corey Jones, Ramon Lebron, Luis Marte, Melvin Mercedes, John Murrian, Billy Nowlin, Gustavo "SS of the Future" Nuñez, P. J. Polk, Gabriel Purroy, Bruce Rondon, Austin Wood
The strengths and weaknesses of Detroit's system should be abundantly clear. Pitching is the obvious strength, but the Tigers' system is a position player pauper (pardon the terrible alliteration). With Verlander, Scherzer, and Porcello locked up for at least another four years--and with some good starters coming up through the minors (Turner, Oliver, Crosby, Villarreal, Wilk, and Furbush)--the Tigers have the makings of one hell of a starting rotation in a few years. The positional depth is pretty bleak, though. With the exceptions of Castellanos, Fields, and Martinez, there are very few high upside players in the minor league ranks. There is also very little depth in the high minors in case the injury bug strikes (which, with Carlos Guillen still on the Tigers' roster, will surely happen).
So, who did I miss? Who have I overrated? Who have I underrated? Was I too generous in handing out the B-/C+ grades?
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of the Bless You Boys writing staff.
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Very Interesting
Thanks for posting this. It would have been great to see a 2010 stat line where available for each player, along with predicted 2011 assignment.
Grosberg will eat your skull for putting Dirks that low.
Any word on Casey Crosby…is he healthy and where will he be in 2011?
Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.
Re: Crosby- I don't know anything too specific (or up to date)
but I’m pretty sure he was kept out by a bone bruise. I would assume that he would be healthy again by the start of next season. If so, I imagine the Tigers will do with him what they meant to do this year: have him start the season at Lakeland.
Nice writeup
I always enjoy seeing info and rankings on Tigers prospects, so it’s appreciated (even if it’s just opinion).
Baseball America is about to start their top 10s for everyone today, and I can’t wait.
Keep us posted...I'd like to know when BA does the Tigers
Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.
Nice job, Dberg
Of those that are overrated, underrated, etc, this is my take
Casey Crosby hardly pitched, so he has to get an incomplete grade, and his injury has to be the disappointment of the year, with the possible exception of Wilkin Ramirez who was released and is a total bust.
Zach Simons would be much higher on my list, and I can not understand for the life of me why he doesn’t get more respect from within the organization. He should definitely be going on the roster in November. More likely, they will put Villareal or maybe Lester Olivares on the roster instead.
Charlie Furbush was promoted aggressively, but he his nowhere near ready for the majors. He got smacked around at the AAA level, where he was promoted as much out of necessity as anything. Andy Oliver has much better stuff and will likely blow past Charlie on the way to the majors in 2011. Speaking of Oliver, he needs to command his off speed offerings and he’ll be ready for a major starting role in Detroit. Until then, he stays in Toledo.
The absence of Cale Iorg on a list of Tiger prospects is a thing of beauty. Unfortunately, I believe that Dave Dombrowski’s delusions will give him a spot on the 40 man roster this month. Gustavo Nunez probably also gets a roster spot, although his offense fell off cliff this summer. Nunez and Iorg may take the places of Brent Dlugach and Audy Ciriaco on the 40 man roster ahead of the rule 5 draft. Danny Worth is not really a “no bat” guy, IMO. Certainly not in the Everett mold. Danny can hit a little bit, and he’ll be in camp as a long shot to grab an infield spot.
While I get that Dan Schlereth is highly viewed because of his raw stuff, I still think he’s quite raw, and I’m not going to flip out over his last five starts. He was putting 1.5 runners on per inning in the minors before being promoted to the show. He was no better than an average prospect based on results. Let’s see if he can keep it going and make the team out of camp.
If you survived 2003, you can get through this!
Last 6 when it counted-perfect. I go on what’s happening now to determine promotion, ESPECIALLY coming through when he had to. Look at 9/14, 9/15, 9/18, 9/19, 9/25 and 10/3.
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 2, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Why did those count more?
Last I checked, the Tigers were pretty far out of it at that point. That Danny Schlereth sure is clutch when Detroit is 10 games out!
by ozymandius1024 on Nov 2, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the game was on the line or was a close game when he came in. To get outs when it’s not close isn’t as important. To hit a HR when you lead 7-0 is a waste. That’s i of the reasons I like Raburn. Weinhardt will get there. Until Coke got tired, he was there. The Yankees could have used him. One day, hopefully, Perry will be there. Adam Wilk could be there in relief too.
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 2, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
No question that Schlereth has great "stuff"
but he will need to command it for more than half a dozen games before I pencil him in for a major league job. I think it’s all up to him. He has the talent, now he has to use it. His late season surge was encouraging, but there are others like Simons that performed for an entire season. Schlereth is still a “what if” in my book. He is one to keep an eye on. I have a good feeling about Villareal, too. I was surprised that they left him unprotected last year while they added Ciriaco to the roster.
If you survived 2003, you can get through this!
The command is improving. Agreed on Villarreal. Take him to Spring Training, DD. First, make sure you invite Adam Wilk. Until Zach Simons fails, he’s a good prospect. Put him in Kids vs. Vets games too. There’s NOTHING to lose. Schlereth is not a what if, if he shows up. Put him in clutch situations. Other than Coke and Valverde, he the last Tiger I’d want to see if I were the hitter.
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 2, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Then you must be a hitter
With no patience or plate discipline.
by ozymandius1024 on Nov 2, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh jeez
I’m waaaaaaay more pessimistic than you. I gave Turner an A-, Oliver a B and I have Crosby as a C.
I’d give you more info on what my ratings are, but I haven’t finished any of my writeups yet.
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I was probably a little too generous with Turner and Oliver,
but I definitely think that Crosby still deserves a B or B-. He’s still young, and a bone bruise can’t be THAT hard to come back from, can it? Is there something else there that I don’t know about?
My view is that Crosby has a ton to prove
And I’m not getting burned by ranking him in the B category when I’m not convinced that he can stay healthy long-term.
I’ve been waffling between C and C+ though I do think I’m moving him to the higher grade right now.
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by David Tokarz on Nov 2, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Great job for the listing even though you left Thad Weber out and had Danny Worth and Andy Dirks too low.
Congrats on including players that I like that no one wanted to mention decently including the following: Schlereth at #5, Villarreal at #6, Adam Wilk(If they don’t give him a chance I’ll personally get another team to buy him), Weinhardt, the about to be star-forget the Bigs stats, Nelson, only needs 1/2 Erie, Burgos, the same at Lakeland, Zach Simons, give him a chance already, Douglas, first up if Sizemore fails, Gaynor, look at the progress, Rawley Bishop, look at the progress after a slow start at Erie(he’s my DH after Strieby-I love the potential), Danny Worth, he’ll hit .265+, Bryan Holaday, a real catcher who CAN hit in time, And Andy Dirks my 4th OF ready to challenge higher. On your extra list, you might include Matt Little, Jeff Rowland, and Shawn Teufel. Now send the list to DD to make sure he invites ALL to Spring Training to see for himself. KNOWING the possibilities, he will lessen his desire for overpriced free agents. The important point is NOT the ranking, but promotion at least 1 level with consideration for another after 1/2 season. DL makes promotion even faster. THE DEPTH IS THERE. A 100% Strieby is the best DH out there. Will Rhymes, give the Post and comments to DD and Kaline, since you read BYB. The Tigers have the makings of SF, including 5 pitchers.
Grosberg(isms) Rankings
1. “100% Strieby” – That is like having a “Raburn that can hit before June,” or an “Inge that makes great contact,” – we must deal in the present. A better DH candidate – I would go with Konerko, Maggs, Dunn, Guerrero, or Thome, just to name a few.
2. “Kids vs. Vets games” – I am sure that in the Spring they allow everyone to play in some situational or simulated game-type scenarios during practice, but I would have to wonder how often the Major league guys take on the Minor league guys to prove their worth.
3. “The depth is there” – I believe we hit at/below league average at DH, C, SS, 2B, 3B, and LF, and while some of our kids played well in limited roles, Boesch will tell you that it is really tough to do this over the course of a season. These guys must perform in the high minors consistently (Wells, Dirks, Worth) to then earn the opportunity to do it in the Big Leagues. Substitute this phrase from now on with “The money is there” – and start thinking about guys that HAVE done it consistently in the Major Leagues (Crawford, V. Martinez, Beltre, and all the DHs I listed).
4. “There is nothing to lose” – Wrong! In fact, there is a projected payroll of $80 million plus to waste and some very good players in their prime, if the Tigers were to take chances on playing a large cast of unproven rookies. DD has already said that he is going to go out and “make a splash,” and really no matter how many times you make these posts, DD will not change his mind, I promise!
Channel your enthusiasm to contributing some beneficial information to your fellow readers, like how your young guys are doing in the Fall Leagues or which Free Agents you believe will be the best values, based on your research. Continuing to post the same comments over and over simply is a waste of your time.
The Chairman of the Steve Yzerman for President fan club.
by Christopher Horvath on Nov 2, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Agreed
That was a very nice and descriptive way of saying the right stuff without coming off as condescending or snarky. Bravo.
by ozymandius1024 on Nov 2, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Great Comment!!!
The only way to prove is to play. The only way to select the players to play is to see what they did previously. The Tigers gained by injuries with Rhymes, Wells, and Boesch. I try to select players who I think will make it. We’ll see who’s right as the players get their chance. Avila has certainly improved with playing time. Frazier was a quick mistake on my part. Valverde was a wrong call on my part. Damon, who I was against, wasted space. Bonderman did the same. The AFL has proven to be a waste because the wrong players were selected. Unfortunately, my favorites weren’t selected.
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 3, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
You have fame
Congratulations! A lot of time was spent typing to earn that list.
Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.
Appreciation to Christopher Horvath
Spending whatever they spend $80 mil +/- is a given. How they spend it is where the “nothing to lose” only time enters in. Look at SF as a guide. DD looked at Cody Ross, but SF got him for 0. I disliked Huff, but SF did a “change of scenery” deal for few $. I wrote in t75n about Coke, based on 08 Yankee #‘s and the Tigers figured a way to get him for minus. Getting CC for big $ is just not my style. Playing Wells/Dirks is. It’s like the stock market. I buy <$2 #‘s, not high grade stocks. Getting CC might produce a winner, but Wells/Dirks might also, even though EVERYONE disagrees. I was NOT in favor of Crosby for Holliday, look what it could have produced. DON’T trade Turner, please though. PLAYING TIME WILL GIVE AN INDICATION. I just would appreciate the playing time, even if it’s Vets vs. Kids in Spring Training. It’s interesting to note that not one of my favorites made the AFL. Iorg over Worth is hard to figure. The Tigers get an A from me for drafting, but the promotion seems to be DL driven, but at least I got Rhymes/Schlereth/Weinhardt/Wells. I could have gotten Sizemore, but he’s a GREAT first up, followed by Brandon Douglas. Christopher Horvath, I GREATLY appreciate your taking the time with WONDERFUL creativeness to write the comment. People like you are rare. You might Google me some time under my name alone or followed by Detroit Tigers..
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 3, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
There is nothing to lose by more aggressive promotion in the minors.
Skipping a level, where performance warrants it, is a no lose situation as is AFL and MORE invites to Spring Training.
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 4, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing to lose?
To say there is nothing to lose is to say that there is no risk.
Your strategy is the riskiest I’ve seen on this blog. You typically assume that there is no learning curve between minor league baseball and major league baseball. Under that assumption, you can promote minor leaguers and expect the same performance at the major league level that they have shown at the minor league level. Working under the same assumption, there’s really no need to acquire proven MLB players because we can often find similar production at AA or AAA in our own system.
However, this assumption is totally inaccurate. There IS a production drop with nearly all players between minor league baseball and MLB. Some players NEVER translate MiLB success into MLB success and only elite players have ever had the same degree of success in the majors that they had in the minors.
Your risk (and your "something to lose’) is that we rely on players that WILL NOT produce at the same level in MLB. By the time we know they can’t play, there are no free agents to sign, no players to promote, we’re 10 games under .500, and we have 60M wasted (between JV, Cabby, Inge, and Valverde) on players that are rotting away on a AAA team. If I’m Mike Ilitch, I would consider that a loss.
Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.
+1
I’m the biggest prospect booster around here, but even I’m advocating for a major free agent impact. The reason? We absolutely cannot bolster our team with star power from the farm system. We have two impact prospects close to Detroit- Andy Oliver and Jacob Turner (and Turner’s stretching it). We certainly have no hitting- Dan Fields is a ways away and Nick Castellanos has less than 30 plate appearances to his name.
Meanwhile, what do we have? Ryan Streiby, who can’t stay healthy for longer than a week (and who has wrist problems, which can be a kiss of death for a power hitter). Andy Dirks, who has a bunch of okay skills but no good ones (I’m a huge fan but he’s a scrappy fourth outfielder). Casper Wells, who has the upside of .260 and a 20/20 campaign with good defense if he can get over his lefty platoon split and horrible 2009. Will Rhymes, who has contact and speed but zero in terms of power (and an average glove) who will probably become a utility player). Danny Worth, who cannot hit. Brandon Douglas, who is 25 and in AA. A slew of bullpen arms, none of which could close in the major leagues save for maybe Weinhardt and Schlereth- if Weinhardt adjusts next year and Schlereth learns what the “strike zone” is. Or we could pay for 4-6 WAR players in Carl Crawford, Victor Martinez, Adam Dunn or Cliff Lee to get a drastically improved team quickly. The choice is clear to me.
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Douglas hits, while all I hear about is age. Rhymes scores and knocks in runs at a 50+ rate. Schlereth did it in his last 6 outings WITH control and a 94-95. Just as a wild experiment, put Rawley Bishop in the DH at Toledo for 2 months and note the improvement. Nothing to lose, but ALOT to gain, or play him in ST. He might bomb at first like he did at Lakeland and Erie, but he’ll improve big time. It’s important to have some insight like the patience of Avila or the clutch of Rhymes. I’ve spoken to Dirks and like what I heard. I think I can help to improve Strieby’s wrist if they gave me an opportunity.(it’s really my orthopedic surgeon/ecercise Dr.) I greatly appreciate your comments, David.
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 4, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You hear about Age because he's beating up kids
If my 16-year old kid is scoing well on middle school math tests, I’m not sending him to engineering school.
Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.
Exactly
A 25 year old taking advantage of 22 year old pitchers is not a way to judge talent.
You’re depending on wild small sample sizes with Schlereth.
Bishop going to AAA isn’t really a giant risk- though you have to remember that the scouting data doesn’t really support the idea that he’s a major league player.
Rhymes gets runs because Toledo had him at the top of the order. Runs are not a good predictor of player ability.
Dirks may sound good, but his tools suggest fourth outfielder. I hope I’m wrong- I really like his style of play- but there’s no evidence to indicate otherwise.
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Free Scott Sizemore!
IMO Wells has more upside than you give him credit for, I keep thinking Fred Lynn
born in Grand Rapids
"Always 1984"
Fred Lynn was an amazing player
and he was in his 3rd full season in the majors when he was he was Casper’s age (oh, and he was left handed). I don’t think the two are comparable at all.
by ozymandius1024 on Nov 4, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That's possible
I’m trying to be more conservative than I was in the past so people don’t get the wrong impression. I do think Fred Lynn is off, but .260/.340/.470 with plus defense wouldn’t be bad in LF.
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Free Scott Sizemore!
There are always players to promote. There are always players who are performing. The key is to identify them early enough and to have them continue their performance. That’s what I attempt to accomplish. Some players like Casper Wells take a little longer. Andy Dirks also took longer, but he showed GREAT improvement in limited action. Adam Wilk has been a STAR from the beginning, but because the scouting reports say 87 tops, he isn’t given consideration.Thad Weber also has good #‘s, but he doesn’t make the list. Their performance warrants a look in ST. There’s NO risk to do this. If I’m wrong, only time has been wasted. Even that isn’t a big waste because it will indicate who to cut. Max Leon took space from Brandon Douglas-enough said. I favored bringing up Jeff Frazier, but now I’d cut him for Simons/L.J.Gagnier. I also favored Dlugach until I saw Danny Worth. I love Will Rhymes, but still consider Sizemore first up in a DL. Sizemore WILL get his chance, but Rhymes has earned it to have a job to lose. I greatly appreciate the criticism, especially from you, momotigers. I doubt the day will come when the majotity agrees with me, but I’m hopeful the Tigers are reading, even if they’re disagreeing. At least they gave Rhymes a chance. I’m hopeful they’ll do the same with Schlereth/Weinhardt/Wells/Dirks/Wilk/Simons and start Raburn. If they trade Turner, I don’t know what I’ll do. Keep in mind that if they sign Ctawford, they lose a #1.
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 4, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking in ST
My point is this…if you look in spring training (and this is messed up already because I strongly feel that spring training is not a good indicator of regular season success for a number of reasons) and like the guy, he makes the team. Great! So Andy Dirks is the starting LF on opening day. The Dirks family is in the stands and everyone is happy until Andy is hitting .187 on May 5 and the Tigers are 5 games under. (And you have to admit that things COULD go bad for anyone one of the prospects). The problem with aggressive promotion is that your next option is someone who is at AAA that would have been a AA player if Dirks wasn’t called up early. The free agents have signed elsewhere and our minors are already taxed because organizations don’t design their system to promote a bunch of players at time. Below AAA and AA, you have a bunch of kids. 20 year olds that don’t have much professional experience.
Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.
Believe it or not, I have noyhing more to say until I see more stats unless it's a Dumb move.
Can’t wait till Spring Training, realizing it won’t tell the full story, but it will help
Grosberg(ism) #5
“Believe it or not, I have nothing more to say” – As much as I want to believe this is true, I think you know Grosberg deep down, this is a comment that simply will not and could not be true ;) We would all miss your insights you way too much!
I do have one lingering question that I must ask, is “Stephen Grosberg” a pseudonym that is being used by Andy Dirks?
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by Christopher Horvath on Nov 5, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I've already theorized that it's Mrs. Ilitch
She’s trying to save money and have our payroll under $45M so she can buy fast cars and trendy handbags.
Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.
Hilarious!
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by Christopher Horvath on Nov 5, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Grosberg(ism) #6
The only way to know is to play them at the highest level possible.
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 30, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Andy Dirks is a good #4 OF for now.
Eventually he’ll contend with the others. Let’s see what he does in ST/Toledo. Wells/Boesch comes first after Raburn. Nobody else needed.
by StephenGrosberg on Nov 30, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions

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