Did the Tigers Take a Good Risk in Signing Benoit for 3 years?
When the Tigers signed Joaquin Benoit to a three year deal, I was a little squeamish. Signing 33-year old relievers with injury histories and surgically repaired rotator cuffs did not seem like the best way to start off the offseason shopping. When I looked at his numbers from 2010, though, I warmed up to the idea quite a bit.
His numbers last year, after all, were just sick. You just don't see pitchers give up 30 hits in 60.1 innings, and 75 strikeouts against just 11 walks is just ridiculous. I knew he was good in that Tampa pen, but this? Wow. If the Tigers are going to pick up free agent relievers, this is the kind of guy they should get. Quibble over the dollars if you want. If he puts up numbers like that, nobody will care if he's really "earning it" or not.
Of course, part of the reason you don't want to offer a whole lot of relievers long-term deals is you can't be sure they are going to repeat the numbers that earned them the paycheck. At least that's the common wisdom. Relievers who aren't one-pitch pitchers from Panama tend to be a bit erratic. Throw in the fact that you can never feel too good about a pitcher's health and three year deals seem to be asking for trouble.
So, did the Tigers take a bad gamble on Benoit? I decided to look into it. The way I went about it was digging through Cot's Contracts and looking up every single contract given to a reliever that was three years or longer. There were a few judgment calls (such as Braden Looper, whose contract I didn't count) but what it came down to were 38 contracts of three or more years given to a relief pitcher who remained a relief pitcher.
At first, I was going to break the contracts into categories and talk about each grouping of players. I soon discovered by the time I finished such a piece, Benoit's contract would be over. So I simplified and decided to judge the deals by Wins Above Replacement (WAR). I should clarify. I decided to use the WAR you find on Baseball-Reference.com. If you want to know the difference between that system and what you find at Fangraphs, you can read the discussion here.
Once I decided to look at things in these terms, the next step was to figure out how to classify the seasons. Again, I went with simplicity and decided to categorize them. Below are the categories with an example of a season in each category.
<0.0 WAR (Mike Stanton, ‘03, 45.1 IP, 37 H, 6 HR, 34 K, 19 BB, -0.1 WAR)
0.0-0.9 WAR (Matt Thornton, '07, 56.1 IP, 59 H, 4 HR, 55 K, 26 BB, 0.5 WAR)
1.0-1.9 WAR (Dan Wheeler, '08, 66.1 IP, 44 H, 10 HR, 53 K, 22 BB, 1.5 WAR)
2.0-2.9 WAR (Joakim Soria, '09, 53.0 IP, 44 H, 5 HR, 69 K, 16 BB, 2.7 WAR)
>3.0 WAR (Joe Nathan, '08, 67.2 IP, 43 H, 5 HR, 74 K, 18 BB, 3.6 WAR)
Looking at all the contracts together, we're talking 38 contracts for a total of 124 years. Of course, some of these years haven't been played yet so in those 39 contracts there has only been the capability to play 113 years. Let's look at how all those seasons fall out, paying no attention to what year of the contract it is or whether somebody lost time to injury.
< 0.0 WAR - 23 (20.4%)
0.0 - 0.9 WAR - 28 (24.8%)
1.0 - 1.9 WAR - 34 (30.0%)
2.0 - 2.9 WAR - 8 (7.1%)
> 3.0 WAR - 10 (8.8%)
As you can see, getting more than 2.0 WAR in a season from a reliever is difficult. Luckily, the Tigers are paying Joaquin Benoit $5.5 million per year and the going rate for 1.0 WAR in free agency is going to be somewhere between $4 million and $5 million. So even if Benoit falls short of his stellar 2010, he can live up to his contract by staying in that middle range where about 3 out of 10 seasons fell.
That conclusion left me a little unsatisfied, though. It seemed a shame to have all these contract numbers and not look a little closer. The Tigers are paying for about 3.5 to 4.0 WAR with Benoit. How many of these contracts lived up to the 1.2 to 1.3 WAR per season the Tigers need out of Benoit? Of the 38? Just 14 of them. That's a little scary and when you consider that six of the 14 were gobbled up by Mariano Rivera, Billy Wagner and Trevor Hoffman - three of the best relievers to ever - it doesn't really help.
The problem with looking at these contracts this way is it doesn't take the individual cases into consideration. How many of these relievers were 33 going into the deal? How many had injury histories? How many were rotator cuff surgery survivors? How many came back from their surgery throwing harder and with more precision than ever before?
That last question is meant to point out what Benoit has going for him. His fastball's average velocity of 94.0 mph last season was the best of his career by more than a full mph. His BB/9 of 1.64 obliterated the best control he had shown in any prior season. That's after missing all of 2009 with the previously mentioned surgery.
Obviously, Benoit is not your typical case. Maybe that's what they need, though. With just 14 of 38 relief contracts working out at the level the Tigers need from Benoit, they need for him to be atypical.
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this is a great post!
I am excited to see what Benoit can do at the CoPa and in an Old English D.
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Were actually 39 contracts
Apparently K-Rod’s father-in-law has sabotaged his B-R.com page, though, as I couldn’t get to it. That’s why I only looked at 38.
Glad you enjoyed the post.
great article matt!
I am syched to have Benoit in Detroit! I saw him pitch a lot last season and he was lights out. As great as Soriano was I almost think Benoit was the better reliever.
The years bothered me a bit as I would have prefered a two year deal but I am still happy.
Time to get a solid lefty next. Why not bring in his former teammate Randy Choate? Romero is who I hear they are targeting and Im fine with that as well.
Love the use of numbers
It’s a pleasure reading your posts because they really make great use of numbers and you continuously dig up crap that I could find absolutely no where else! Kudos.
Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.
Nice work, Matt.
I suppose we can further assume that most, if not all of those in your data sample were free agent contracts? I mean, teams won’t generally give out a three year deal to a relief pitcher if they are under club control anyway, right? And from that, it stands to reason that most of the relievers would be in the 30 plus age range. Just guessing on these things and looking for reasons to be cheerful, here.
I found the three years to Benoit a little surprising, given DD’s history of going cheap on set up guys in the bullpen. He has been willing to splurge on closers, even to the point of making exceptions in his ultra- frugal avoidance of free agents from 06 to 09. Lyon turned out to be a solid set up guy, but make no mistake that he was signed to be a closer, and came to Detroit for that reason. Jose Mesa got $ 2 million and was a total bust (as predictable), but other than that, DD has been feeding us guys like Joey Eischen, Matt Mantei, Scott Williamson, Yorman Bazardo, Eduardo Campusano, etc, etc. And, of course, he counted on Zumaya, year after year after year. For one that believes that the seventh and eighth innings are just as important as the ninth when the team has a narrow lead, I would obviously disapprove of undervaluing the role of set up men when allocating resources, even though these players are relatively inexpensive on the market.
I like the Benoit signing, although the length of the contract is questionable. Just put the Tigers over the edge and into the playoffs once in that three years, and a lot of messy contracts can be forgiven.
JC Romero, on the other hand, is a non starter for me. This is the next Jose Mesa. He’s not good. A 1.61 WHIP that has been sliding upwards every year? A K/ BB rate that is below one? No thanks. I want no part of him. There are some 30 decent relievers on the free agent market. Many fewer lefties, but still plenty to choose from. JC isn’t one of them.
If you survived 2003, you can get through this!
ouch
I didnt realize Romero fell off that bad. I retract my previous statement.
Choate should come cheap, he was solid last year. He just needs to be used in the right situations. Im guessing the bigger names like Fuentes and Downs are out of the question now-which is okay.
Not much on the list of FA maybe Takahashi or Beimel? Chen is intersting cuz he can also be stretched out as a starter.
thoughts?
Chen is a non starter for me
The Tigers light that guy up like a Christmas tree
If we have to go with a lefty, Downs is the best by far, but he’s a Type A pretty sure to be offered arby, but if they sign another Type A, he’s worth a NO. 2 pick for sure
1. Downs
2. Takahashi
3. Fuentes
4. Rhodes
5. Choate
6. Feliciano
7. Beimel
When you factor in compensation and cost, it probably comes out Takahashi, Rhodes, and Choate, with Beimel and Feliciano somewhere ahead of Brad Thomas. Fuentes will be looking for a closer’s job, or close to closer money, and someone will pay him well.
5. Beimel
If you survived 2003, you can get through this!
Nice...
I’m thinking that we can at least expect to see Benoit put up good numbers in the coming seasons. My full thoughts are in a fanpost, but in summary I feel like he has some mechanical sustainability here. Will he live up to the contract? Only if the Tigers play him in the role that Tampa had him in, and even than living up to the contract is uncertain. But I don’t think we’ll ever be calling this a “bad” contract.
Edgar Renteria had a terrible contract with the Giants. $ 18 million for 2 years
and then he justified it with one swing in his very last game.
If you survived 2003, you can get through this!
the Freep has an interesting article, quoting Benoit's pitching coach in Tampa
and they rolled out some pretty good markers for Joaquin.
He led the league among pitchers who pitched at least 60 innings in:
Lowest ERA (1.34).
• Lowest WHIP — 0.68, or about two runners every three innings.
• Lowest batting average against (.147)
• Lowest OBP against (.189)
• Lowest OPS against (.454).
If you survived 2003, you can get through this!
Great post Matt.
Much better than anything I would’ve come up with.
Saw this tweeted from RJ Anderson/Tommy Rancel who have their own Rays blog and they are putting out a PDF file for a Tampa Bay Annual this year, and here’s the page on Benoit.
Why do I mention this, since it’s not too in-depth? This quote that Rancel (who i believe wrote the page) says:
Benoit’s biggest concern is health. He made claims throughout the 2010 season about his shoulder not being 100%. Whether that is an indication that the surgery was ineffective or that Benoit simply has to prepare better for next season is underminable. . . .
Goes on to talk about his strand rate and BABIP and whatnot. But the health thing is the biggest intrigue to me. Obviously the Tigers feel his shoulder is fine since he passed his physical, but I’m skeptical of the training staff with the numerous cases of how they seemingly mishandled pitchers on the staff in the past (Jeremy Bonderman in 2007 comes to mind).
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WOW. Just think of how much better he'll be if he is 100% next season
What a bargain he’ll be if he can post an ERA <1 . Maybe he’s a Dennis Eckersley in the making. Eck’s best years when he was 33 -37 years old. Let’s just hope Benoit doesn’t throw the same back door slider when we are in the World Series next season.
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Eck was far, far more valuable as a starter.
So I disagree that his best years were 33-37. I disagree that this is good news about Benoit, as well.
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maybe Benoit should be a starter again
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That would make twice in two months that the Tigers moved their only legit set up man to the rotation
and still haven’t answered any questions about the rotation in the process.
If you survived 2003, you can get through this!
But. do you think they need to?
Just kidding…the elephant post made it pretty clear.
Granderson was my Tiger, then Sizemore, then Willis. Since they're all gone, I'm taking Raburn and hoping the pattern holds.
Great Addition
Great story on a huge addition to the Tigers bullpen. I don’t like giving relievers long term contracts, but this one was a risk worth taking.

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