Umpire Randy Marsh apologized for Game 163 call, but it is enough?
I know a lot of Tigers fans were upset with the umpiring of Game 163 last year. Most notably, the complaint was due to home plate umpire Randy Marsh missing Brandon Inge apparently being hit by the ball in the 12th inning with the bases loaded. The Tigers went on to blow the opportunity to score any runs that inning, and the Twins won in the bottom half of the frame.
It turns out, Tigers fans weren't the only ones thinking about the call the weeks after it happened.
On his DetNews blog, Tom Gage recorded this gem from Tigers manager Jim Leyland:
In a WFAN-New York interview on Friday before a charity roast for Don Zimmer in Connecticut, Jim Leyland said he got a call from umpire Randy Marsh "three weeks into the off season" to apologize for missing the one-out pitch with the bases loaded that hit Brandon Inge in the playoff game against Minnesota.
So, how does that make you feel?
Our friend Partha had a FanPost with his feelings, found here. I'll quote him:
it's just throwing it in my face, and your faces, too, the fact that the ump who failed to make the right call in a tremendously pivotal moment of what would turn out to be the ultimate game of the Tigers season knew that he had screwed up so badly, he felt moved to call the manager of the team he had so royally screwed over, and apologize.
Partha went on to say he was not happy about the apology, because Marsh should have made it to all the fans of the team who invest so much emotionally only to have it taken away by his mistake.
And I completely understand why Partha and other fans feel that way.
But I have to say, I was never as upset over the lack of call there as some others. Yes, it is a game-changer. Yes, you want the umpires to get 100 percent of their calls correct. And so do they.
It was a tough call to make. Inge wore his jersey loose in the first place, and the ball barely touched it as it was. That's not an easy call to make if you're Marsh. But he obviously felt he should have made it differently, so I'll cut him some slack.
Honestly I was madder at the Tigers for their inability to get a run home from third base when there was just one out. I wasn't surprised by it. That was a season-long problem. But instead, Inge grounds out, then Gerald Laird strikes out. The Tigers were the Tigers. Frustrating as they were all season, but with much more at stake.
We all wanted them to win the division. Goodness knows, I will never watch that game again. But I cannot blame the umpire for the loss when my own team failed at execution so poorly with so much on the line. And let's not forget Game 163 should never have happened; Detroit had a seven-game lead in the division in September. Marsh's call alone didn't make or break the season.
I just don't see it as that big a deal.
But that's just my take.
Does Marsh's apology to Leyland make you think about Game 163 differently? Or the Tigers' season? What about Marsh?
How do feel about everything today?
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What happened, happened.
Think about the blown calls in the past that always get brought up… and the fact that you probably look at the people who still yap about them (e.g. Cardinals fans from ’87) as somewhat whiny.
Umps make calls in the heat of the moment, and sometimes they get them wrong (surprisingly rarely, though). We have instant replay, but I’m glad we don’t have it for every single call. Think about the NFL where they have a ton of instant-replay-reviewable calls — and how often people still grumble about the officials.
I chose option #4 because we had a ridiculously big lead and didn’t close it out. Sure, the Twins got red-hot towards the end, but… shoot, man, we were up several games in the last week of the season and we didn’t win it. Game 163 never should’ve happened in the first place.
Polanco
There were so many painful moments the last game and the last week that I never thought much of that missed call. The memory I can’t get out of my head is the game ending double play ball that went under Polanco’s glove.
Lee
I am more upset about the poor fielding decision by Raburn in left earlier.
The non-call on the hit by pitch was annoying but not like the mistakes in the field. It took me a few days to get over that game.
I agree...
…that Raburn play was very very strange.
by BennieBladesFan on Feb 16, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
I am Mad as Hell and I am not Going To PAY FOR IT ANYMORE!!
Mr. Illitch,
If this does not warrant the firing of this umpire, nothing does!!! Why is this miscreant still employed? If he was a physician and he made an error that caused the death of a patient he would be made to pay!! Randy Marsh KILLED the 2009 TIGERS!!! He should pay by having to ear a living at a job he is functionally able to perform at a level that is acceptable!!
In the words of Ivan Drago
If we died, we died. It’s part of the game. It’s the way it goes. I’m over it. There have been a million bad calls in the history of baseball, and there will be a million more. (At least until my Umpotron-5000 prototype goes into mass production.) We just need to hope that more of them are for us then against us.
I wish I could change the “I never cared” option to something like: “I never cared because the ball barely grazed his jersey and I’d guess the majority of umps miss that call every single time.”
I am critical on umps and most officials in all sports — I think there should be a forced retirement because let’s face it: guys that are 55 or older trying to ump a game played by 22-35 year olds is a ridiculous notion. But, that HBP wasn’t exactly obvious to someone standing behind the plate. It was obvious to US because of our point of view. I don’t blame Marsh for that call at all.
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if you miss a call like that, it burns inside you. especially if it realistically affects the outcome of the game. yeah, i would have preferred marsh was more public with the apology, but the fact that he went back and admitted he blew it shows that he’s willing to take responsibility. he never had to do that. nobody forced him to.
if anything, i look forward to him umping more games because here is a ref that can learn and be sorry for his mistakes.
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Compare it with hockey officials who won’t admit to a mistake even when a replay shows CLEARLY that they are full of it. At least he’s honest.
I wish I hadn’t read this now because it just brings everything back again. I’m not mad at him anymore, exactly, I just wish that I hadn’t been reminded of that game.
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I'm with ya, Kurt
There was something utterly pathetic about our whining about a ball barely grazing the loose shirt of one of our guys and our season hinging on it, when after all we only had (what?) a three game lead with four to go.
We choked. It should have never come down to that. Umps blow calls (even as I personally believe baseball is the best-officiated major sport). It happens.
We went 17-16 in September/October
I don’t exactly call that choking, especially since there were a whole bunch of people saying that all the Tigers needed to do was play .500 ball. That’s exactly what they did. It doesn’t matter how many games you’re ahead by when you have that same number of games left against the team that’s trailing you in the standings.
As for Marsh, well, he went on to blow several calls in the postseason, which hampered the Dodgers during the NLCS (although they had other issues, such as pitching meltdowns), so it’s not like he has a personal vendetta against the Tigers or anything.
they did and didn't
They didn’t choke on some level, because I felt like the team played at the highest level it was capable of sustaining. They were the same frustrating Tigers for the final 25 games as they were for the first 138. Rotation stumbles. Bullpen stumbles. Lineup that can’t get the run home from third and has four black holes. All the same limitations that held them back were there. Meanwhile the Twins were winning at, what was it, a .900 clip? That is completely mind-boggling.
On the other hand, as crwi says, 4 games left, 3 game lead, and you’re watching the playoffs from home, that’s more than its fair share of historical failure.
by Kurt Mensching on Feb 16, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
We screwed up.
Simple as that. We let the season slip away and we made it go down to game 163.
Still, what happened happened. It’s over with.
by DetroitTigersGeek on Feb 16, 2010 9:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Mistakes Happen.
All through the baseball season umpires make mistakes…they are only noticed when the game, or this case, season is on the line…at least we got an apology for this one.
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….Ball for 8 yrs at all levels from tee ball to babe ruth and its not easy…..They make more mistakes becasue they make more calls then all the other sports…..162 games and being behind the play for at least 40 games is tough…..Yes some callls are missed….. Remember the Orioles and Yankees playoff game in late 90s where the kid reached over in right field and caught the ball and they called it a HR…..We only remember the bad ones….Anyway the kid is playing College Baseball somewhere now just cant remember what college.
by BennieBladesFan on Feb 16, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Fact is....
…we should even have been in a game #163…..yes the twins playe da great final 30 games but all we needed to do was win one more game over the final 2 weeks and we would have been fine…..We blew the playoffs not Marsh.
by BennieBladesFan on Feb 16, 2010 9:16 AM EST reply actions
Don't care
In all honesty, I try not to think about the way last season ended AT ALL. I actively try to put it out of my mind because it was so upsetting. What I do think about is the late season collapse. I agree with others, game 163 never should happened.
Again, I put it out of my head. It hurts more than 2006 does. Please don’t make me think about last year. Give me Johnny Damon and let me talk myself into a 2010 playoff run.
by ThaWalrus9 on Feb 16, 2010 10:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm torn between the never caring and don't care now
I don’t think games come down to one play, so I don’t believe hit or not decided the game. There were plenty of opportunities throughout the game to prevent it from coming down to that point just as there were plenty of opportunities throughout the season to prevent it from coming down to that game.
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/sad trombone

it hurts to think about it again and I think it’s pretty pointless for this to even be brought up now.. but whatevs, there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
put the past behind, thusly, a brand new year it is 2010. By the way, let me say ’’Tigers always play poorly in September near .500 or below so, what is excepted,for years since been watching baseball ithas been that way..The only way to change is win not losing..anyway…peace & goodwill to you all!
by '' spiderman '' on Feb 16, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions
Bah
Goodwill is for quitters. I hold grudges.
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I'd rather blame
Inge for missing two sac-fly chances, Laird for swinging at ball four with the bases loaded, Granderson for his ninth inning base-running error, Raburn for playing a single into a tripe, Miner for throwing a hanging curve, or Porcello for throwing away a pick-off with a man on third.
A missed “hit” by pitch on a baggy jersey is on the very bottom of my list.
failed to get the run home with less than 2 outs...
just think of it tiger fans, inge will still be playing 3rd base this season…love the guy, great glove and arm, but with 2 knee surgeries, little offseason hitting practice…can’t wait to see how many runners he leaves stranded this year…or doesn’t advance the runner from first with no outs, etc….there’s a time when fan loyalty needs a reality check and realize we need a productive bat at that position…hope im wrong, but he’ll be lucky to hit .240 this year…oh boy!!!
I listened to the entire game on the radio
I didn’t even bother trying to find video of this pitch because I agree with everyone who says it never should have come to that.
I can't believe I ate the whole thing!
by tigerfaninChicago on Feb 16, 2010 5:46 PM EST reply actions
The Fact Is That The Little Things Make The Biggest Impact
In a game of inches a small cal missed makes all the difference in the world! Ask the Colts if the play where the Saints went for two and it went to replay and was overturned for two points if ti was deflating. Timing is everything and the Inge HBP that did not happen CHANGED THE OUTCOME! Marsh should be fired, period. His job is to be a equal judge and Marsh admittedly failed!! People in other lines of work pay for failure with a pink slip when their is much that is lost, Marsh should Too!!
If every umpire who blew a tough call was fired
We would probably all be ex-MLB umpires by now. It’d be like jury duty.
Still Painful
I know I shouldn’t dwell on just one particular play or pitch or at-bat, but I’m still having a hard time getting over Gerald Laird swinging at ball four with the bases loaded.

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