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Morning lede: The Detroit Tigers All-Decade Team

What's a Detroit Tigers "All Decade Team" without Rob Fick? Better off... (Image MLB.com)

What's a Detroit Tigers "All Decade Team" without Rob Fick? Better off... (Image MLB.com)

The aughts were not a good decade overall for baseball in Detroit. Despite there being only a couple of seasons worth remembering (for the right reasons, that is...), and none ending how we'd have preferred, the Tigers have gone and named their "All-Decade" team anyway.

In fact, the Tigers could have just as easily used the starting lineup and rotation from '06 in its entirety, and called it day. But what's the fun in that?

Selected by play-by-play men Dan Dickerson and Mario Impemba, Tigers baseball media relations director Brian Britten, Tigers baseball media relations manager Rick Thompson, and beat writer Jason Beck, as you might guess, the team was dominated by players who were members of the 2006 AL pennant winners.

Not that Tigers from the days we'd rather not remember, the ugly pre-2006 seasons, were totally ignored. 

Everyone's favorite player...to hate...Bobby Higginson, made the team as an outfielder over the immortal Craig Monroe (according to Beck;s article).  This news broke my heart.

I had developed a man-crush on Monroe thanks to his '06 heroics. I'll always fondly remember his late August home run to beat the Yankees, when it looked for all the world the season was going to collapse. There was a reason I'd half-jokingly say, "David Ortiz wishes he were as clutch as Craig Monroe!" Monroe's clutchiness was short-lived, but we'll always have 2006!

But Higgy was a better player for a slightly longer time...though his decline was amazingly rapid. Higginson was done as a power hitter after 2000, washed up after 2004, and is still going to the bank today thanks to the $50 plus million (That's NOT a typo) the Tigers paid him over his career.

Jeff "Mike Sweeney kicked my ass" Weaver was named one of the starting pitchers, most likely edging out Mike Maroth. At least Maroth was liked, and more importantly, demanded the ball even when on the verge of 20 losses. That should count for something.

As much as I disliked Dmitri Young (I tend to have issues with men who hit women...let alone abuse drugs), he pretty much took the DH position by default. Even though the Tigers gave up on Da Meat Hook between games of a '06 double-header, who else are you going to put there? Randall Simon? (Though the sausage abuser's '02 wasn't half bad).

If only the Tigers had burned Gary Sheffield's outfield glove in '07. He was a dominant offensive force playing as a full-time DH...till Sheffield talked Jim Leyland into playing the outfield.  As we all know, Sheffield collided with Placido Polanco trying to catch a fly ball, grinding his shoulder into dust. Damn, what could have been...

For the most part though, there really isn't much to argue over. But I'll try to anyway, after the jump...

Star-divide

In regard to position players, 1B Miguel Cabrera, 2B Polanco, SS Carlos Guillen, C Pudge Rodriguez, OF Curtis Granderson (SIGH) and OF Magglio Ordonez are total no-brainers at their respective positions. Career .236 hitter Brandon Inge takes 3B for no reason other than it's impossible to make an argument for Jose Macias, Chris Truby or Eric Munson. Trust me, I tried and I couldn't. (If only Dean Palmer stayed healthy. What's with this franchise and bad shoulders?)

On the mound, Justin Verlander is unquestionably the best starting pitcher the Tigers have had in over two decades. After Verlander though, there really isn't much.  The Gambler Kenny Rogers had a fine career, but only one excellent season (Without a doubt, he was an ace in '06) out of his three as a Tiger.  Journeymen Nate Robertson (career 4.92 ERA), Jeremy Bonderman (career 4.78 ERA) and the aforementioned "Cheech" Weaver (4.33 ERA as a Tiger. Respectable, considering the awful teams he was on) being named to the team shows just how starved for starting pitching this team has been.

If the selection committee were going to pick a setup man based on one good season, then I'd go with Brandon Lyon over Joel Zumaya. Sure, Zumaya was electrifying in '06. But so was Fernando Rodney, as the Tigers had a tag-team for setup men. Lyon was literally lights out last season, a one man bullpen at times, and a big reason the Tigers made it to game 163.

Todd Jones as the closer? He made Detroit pharmacists a ton of cash in blood pressure medication and Pepto-Bismol sales, but he deserves his spot on the team.

So there's your team of Tigers legends for the 00's. "Legends" being a relative term, of course.

In all honesty, after looking back at the past decade of Tigers baseball, it'd be much easier to name a Tigers All-Decade team...of suck.  Which sounds like a future post to me!

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Guillen a no brainer?

Only because, like with so many other positions, who else would it be. Although, he did at least have a one really good non-injury season to go with a couple good injury filled ones. All in all, mostly a decade of disaster for the Tigs.

by 77bestrookieclassever on Mar 17, 2010 6:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Rod Allen joins you

with that serious manlove for Cmo

by tigers22 on Mar 17, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

CRAIG DID IT AGAIN!

HE DID IT AGAINNN

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by JoelZumayaKegStand on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I loved Craig too

Welcome to Detroit, NO sissies allowed

by Detroitchik on Mar 17, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even all those guys in their primes

There would still be questions about the rotation. What a terrible 10 years (save for ’06 and 162 games into ’09), but at least there appears to be some sort of light for Tigers fans.

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by ReichardZ on Mar 17, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

2007 was pretty good too

The Indians team from that year was just charmed (until the ALCS, that is).

by ChrisDTX on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

It started off being a disaster, but the turn around was EPIC.

I don’t think any other team has turned it around better than us. We had 12 straight losing seasons and we were headed down the same path as the Pittsburgh Pirates, who now have 17 straight losing seasons.
 (TB has turned it around as well, but they still have a few huge road blocks to overcome with their payroll limitations and indoor ballpark).
Right now, the Tigers are clearly moving forward and are one of the top franchises in baseball, talent wise and financially.

Talent wise, we had plenty of All-Star and HOF resumes, which started when we acquired Pudge.

 In 2009, the Tigers had the 4th highest local TV Ratings in baseball. Illich gets a huge slice of the $1 Billion / 10 year contract with FSN-Detroit that runs until 2018. This team’s financial future really couldn’t be any better.

by linuxit on Mar 17, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, in comparison to the Royals and Pirates of the world

It’s certainly remarkable the way that the Tigers turned around a decade-plus of misery. And it looks like they’ll probably be at least competitive for the near future. Sometimes you forget just how bad this team was from the time of the strike until 2006. They’re not the Yankees or Red Sox (or even the Twins), but at least they’re no longer the punchline to a joke.

by ChrisDTX on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even Baltimore now

It’s hard for me to believe, but the Orioles have had 12 straight losing seasons and haven’t won a World Series since 1983. Back in Cal Ripken’s prime, the Yankees were the punchline to every joke. Steinbrenner was out of control and would fire their manager nearly every year. Billy Martin was his poster child.

by linuxit on Mar 17, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd vote Rodney over Zumaya

For longevity, especially. Rodney was the “closer-in-waiting” until the Tigers signed Todd Jones. Then he became a dependable set-up man. And after Jones retired, he was the guy. He battled injuries for a couple of seasons, but nothing like Zumaya’s dealt with.

by Ian Casselberry on Mar 17, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Here's what Minnesota's might look like and I'm not impressed.

C- Joe Mauer
1b- Justin Morneau
2b- Luis Castillo
3b- Corey Koskie
SS- Cristian Guzman
LF- Jacque Jones
CF- Torii Hunter
RF- Michael Cuddyer
DH- Jason Kubel

SP1- Johan Santana
SP2- Brad Radke
SP3- Scott Baker
SP4- Eric Milton
SP5- Carlos Silva
SU- Juan Rincon
CL- Joe Nathan

by linuxit on Mar 17, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Why should I be impressed? I think the Tigers look better.

At catcher, Mauer is one of the best right now, but Pudge is going to be a 1st ballot HOF and is one of the best catcher’s ever. Advantage Pudge. Score Det 1, Min 0

At 1b, Cabrera vs Morneau. Both have played for 7 seasons, but Miguel is far better in nearly every offensive statistic. It’s really not even close. Det 2, Min 0.

 At 2b, Polanco vs Castilla. Polanco wins in a complete blowout. Det 3, Min 0

3b, Inge vs Koskie. Koskie all the way. Det 3, Min 1

SS, Guillen vs Guzman. Not much D from either, but Guillen is the only one that could actually hit. Guillen on a landslide. Det 4, Min 1

LF, Higgy vs Jones. Push. Det 4, Min 1.

CF, Granderson vs Hunter. This is a tough one. These 2 are very much alike. Hunter can’t match Granderson’s 2007 season though. Hitting Granderson has an edge. Defensively Hunter has an edge. It’s a push. Still Det 4, Min 1

RF, Ordonez vs Cuddyer. Maggs has a .320 batting average during his stay in Detroit. Ordonez is so much better it’s not even funny. Det 5, Min 1.

DH, Young vs Kubel. Nearly identical stats. This is a push. Still Det 5, Min 1

SP1. Verlander vs Santana. I think Johan was the best pitcher of this decade. Verlander is in a no win situation here. Det 5 Min 2.
 
SP2. Rogers vs Radke. Kenny had 1 very good season in Detroit. Brad was nothing spectacular this decade, but he took the ball nearly every 5th day and threw strikes. Radke wins. Det 5, Min 3.

SP 3, Bonderman vs Baker. Hard to believe, but Bonderman is a year younger than Baker. While Bonderman was winning games for the Tigers, Baker was still in the minors still learning how to pitch. Baker has been better lately though. It’s a Push.

SP 4, Robertson vs Milton. Not easy comparing these 2 pitchers. I have a hard time rewarding Milton with a win because Minnesota couldn’t keep him in a Twins uniform longer. Nate’s decent years were equal to Milton’s decent years for the Twins, Nate just has a few rotten years to go with it. Milton does too, but those weren’t for the Twins. Push.

SP 5, Weaver vs Silva. Weaver was actually a very decent for the Tigers. Silva was pretty much the same as Milton, craptacular at best. Edge Weaver. Det 6 Min 3.

SU- Zumaya vs Rincon . Zoom had 1 amazing year. Rincon had a 3-4 good seasons, but then he lost it completely. No clear leader here. Push.

Closer. Jones vs Nathan. Slam dunk for Nathan. Detroit 6, Min 4.

by linuxit on Mar 17, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take Kubel over Young

And Rincon over Zumaya. But that’s it. So even money.

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by David Tokarz on Mar 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you missed the point here

the point was the twins do not impress, but yet they keep winning division titles during a decade detroit won … none.

by Kurt Mensching on Mar 17, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tigers All-Decade vs Twins All-Decade

Nice job, linuxit.

I can agree with you on each position except catcher. Pudge was decent as a Tiger for the most part (absolutely lousy in 2005), but his best years were behind him by the time he came to Detroit. Age will do that to a guy. Right now, I think Mauer is the best. The guy is just phenomenal (and it’s weird to say that considering how much I hate the Twins).

That would make it 5-5 on my scorecard.

by TigersFan81371 on Mar 17, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll agree with that.

I was using much of Pudge’s career prior to being a Tiger, which I shouldn’t have.

by linuxit on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

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