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Guillen staying healthy key to Tigers' run production

It's been all downhill for Carlos Guillen the past few years. After a long climb that began last season, maybe he'll be back on top of his game finally.

Guillen (stats) peaked in 2006, when he played in all but nine games. He had a .920 on-base percentage plus slugging average (or .390 weighted on-base average if that's your style) to show for it.  In 2007, he made it in 151 more games and continued to hit well (.859 OPS/.361 wOBA)

Since that time, it's been nothing but downhill for Guillen, as he's battled ache after pain after ache, culminating in a .727 OPS (.328 wOBA) across just 81 games last season.

Guillen told MLB.com's Jason Beck the key to his season is staying healthy. Actually, that's a big key for the Tigers' season, as they've had among the worst-hitting designated hitters in the league over the past two seasons. That and they seriously lack for consistent left-handed hitting in the middle of the lineup, and Guillen provides that.

If he's healthy.

"I'm 34 years old," he said. "Maybe I have a different vision of the game, a little more experience, than young guys. But I learned that sometimes you need to learn from those injuries. That's why I think I'm still in the game.

"I learned to play hard, but at the same time, you have to play smart."

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Without Alexander the Tigers don't make the playoffs.

And Smoltz would have, most likely, been a good pitcher on some God awful Tigers teams in the late 80s and early 90s… though maybe the Tigers win a few more games since they would have one capable pitcher during the Fielder era.

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by 13194013 on Mar 18, 2010 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

The Smoltz deal happened when I four, so it's kinda ancient history to me

But I agree with you. The Tigers did what they set out to do by getting Doyle Alexander. And I’ve always assumed that had Smoltz remained with the Tigers, he would’ve been a good pitcher on a bad team and likely would’ve gotten traded to a contender sometime in the mid-90s anyways.

by SabreRoseTiger on Mar 18, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

you never hear the other side

It looks bad on the surface due to the job Smoltz has done over his career. But remove him from a team that spent nearly a decade atop the NL East, would he have the HOF stats?

by rock n rye on Mar 18, 2010 9:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Remove him from the Atlanta coaching staff...

would he have the HOF stats? It’s not just about the player, there’s too much that goes into it. Maybe he turns out to be a bust if this trade doesn’t happen. Maybe Michael Jordan is an average player if Portland drafts him before Chicago. There are so many “what ifs?” in sports. Hopefully this one will finally be put to rest.

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by handsomerob1 on Mar 18, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

you never hear the other side

It looks bad on the surface due to the job Smoltz has done over his career. But remove him from a team that spent nearly a decade atop the NL East, would he have the HOF stats?

by rock n rye on Mar 18, 2010 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

guh

stupid slow mobile network making me think nothings posting

by rock n rye on Mar 18, 2010 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So Samuelson thinks Inge won't hit . . .

. . . that’s one of the most encouraging things I’ve heard all spring, given Samuelson’s track record.

by rea on Mar 18, 2010 7:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Is someone thinking Inge won't hit really newsworthy?

I’d be really happy with great defense, 20 HR’s, and a .250 average

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 18, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Love Guillen....

…..and think he hits .300 with 15 hrs…Cant beat those numbers….GO Tigs!!!

by BennieBladesFan on Mar 18, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Well

You technically can beat those numbers, but that’s a really optimistic projection. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see it though.

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by David Tokarz on Mar 18, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why? Isnt that near his career.....

…..average numbers?…..i mean he played the 2nd half last year at about 75-80 % and played quite well….Id say hes probably close to 100% right now…..I dont think its really optomistic at all.

by BennieBladesFan on Mar 18, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just a pessimist

I think .280 with 15-20 HR’s are realistic if he’s healthy.

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by David Tokarz on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd go the other way

and say an average north of .300, but around 10 HRs. Power is the first thing to go with age. Unless you’re Barry Bonds…

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by handsomerob1 on Mar 18, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not far fetched.

In 2007, he had 14 HR’s and a .325 avg at the All-Star break.

Last year, he 11 HR’s in just 187 AB’s after the All-Star break. So his power has actually improved some. I wouldn’t be all that surprised if he hit 25-30 HR’s with a .280 Avg. He’s certainly capable of producing some decent power numbers. Who really knows what his power limitation is? He’s got a nice HR stroke and doesn’t strike out much.

 I like to look at Raul Ibanez. He’s had his best power hitting seasons after the age of 34. Last year he had 34 HRs in just 500 AB’s. 22 of those HRs came before the All-Star break. What a year he had.

by linuxit on Mar 18, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Is anyone a little freaked out by the phrase “Henning thinks”? Is that possible?

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by David Tokarz on Mar 18, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

I was hoping I wasn’t the only person to catch that.

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by handsomerob1 on Mar 18, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We've got some hungry players

 We have some guys in Toledo (Larish, Wells, Strieby, Boesch) that are clawing for any roster spot, especially Guillen’s.

If we get off to a poor start, I won’t mind some early house cleaning. Guillen is going to have to do more than stay healthy to keep his job. He’s going to have to hit like he did a few years ago. I think he’s got til June to prove himself, then it’s time to start cutting bait. Guillen isn’t the only one in the hot seat either. Damon, Ordonez, Inge, Everett, and Laird need to step it up too.

by linuxit on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes

If he plays poorly, they may have to just cut him to give a younger guy a chance.

by MarkL on Mar 18, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's vital

Obviously.

I’m of the mindset that if he plays up to his ability this year and stays healthy, we probably make the playoffs. I think it’s that kinda situation.

by crwi on Mar 18, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

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