Game 5 Gamethread: Indians at Tigers, 1:05 p.m.
by BigAl on Apr 10, 2010 11:30 AM EDT
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Cleveland Indians Saturday, Apr 10, 2010, 1:05 PM EDT Mitch Talbot vs Jeremy Bonderman Mostly sunny. Winds blowing from right to left field at 15-20 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 55. |
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Jeremy Bonderman starts his first game for the Tigers since June 8th of last year (Bonderman's only start of '09), as he faces the Indians this afternoon. It's also his first start at Comerica since May '08, and supposedly his first fully healthy start in over 2 years.
Quite a few firsts for the veteran righty hurler.
The Bonderman we see on the mound today is a different pitcher from the 2 pitch hard thrower we saw from 2003-2007, before injuries and surgery took their toll. He no longer has the plus fastball, topping out at 91-92 MPH instead of 96-97. But, maybe, just maybe, Bonderman may finally have the oft hoped for and written about 3rd pitch. But it's not the changeup we heard he was working on every spring since '03.
His new pitch is a splitter.
Word is Bonderman feels quite confident in the split-finger fastball, more confident than he ever felt during his annual (and eventually abandoned) experiments with a change.
Via Jason Beck of MLB.com:
He picked up with splitter with input from Tigers bullpen coach Jeff Jones and current Cardinals pitcher Brad Penny, and he's going to sink or swim with it. If he can feel as good about it in the regular season as he did in his final two starts of Spring Training, hitters are probably going to see quite a bit of it. He could never say that about a changeup in any of the years he tried that, which explains why it became almost an annual one-liner each spring.
The difference with the splitter, he said, "It's actually a pitch I can use. The last two times I've pitched I feel like I've been throwing it for a long time."
We'll see the results of both Bondo's rehab and his new 3rd pitch for the first time with our own eyes against the Tribe.
Facing Bonderman today is Mitch Talbot.
Who?
Hey, your guess is as good as mine. From what I can find out via extensive research (a 30 second Google search), Talbot is a 26 year old rookie right hander who was a 2nd round pick of the Astros in '02. He was obtained by the Indians from the Rays via trade last December, and was once part of a trade for Aubrey Huff. (Hell, who hasn't been?) Talbot put up a 3.71 ERA this spring, winning a rotation spot, beating out Aaron Laffey (Who?).
If today's game follows form, Talbot will pitch surprisingly well for 5 or so innings, giving the Tribe a lead. The Tigers, led by the smoking hot bats of Miguel Cabrera and Magglio Ordonez (both with a .526 OBP), will then pound the Indians' bullpen into submission, scoring enough runs late in the game for a come from behind win.
It's a strategy that's worked for a 3-1 record, 2nd place in the Central, .5 game behind those dammed Twins.
I doubt it's a sustainable strategy, but for the time being, it's working!
Interesting press notes for today:
Most of the BYB readership figured the Tigers pitching would be the strength of the team, and after 4 games, the staff has not disappointed.
The Tigers are 2nd in among all AL clubs with a 2.68 ERA.
The Tigers' relievers have combined for a 1.80 ERA (15.0 IP/3 ER) through 4 games, 3rd best in the AL.
Odds and sods:
Austin Jackson has started the season with hits in 4 straight games to begin his MLB career. The last Tigers' player to do begin his career in the same way was Clete Thomas in 2008 (Shout out to Clete's Cult!). The last Tigers player to begin his MLB career with hits in his first 5 games is...Devi Cruz? Seriously? Yes, seriously. Cruz began the 1997 season with hits in his first 5 games.
Yesterday's attendance of 45,010 was the largest for a home opener in Comerica Park history, and the second largest crowd in in the history of Comerica. If you were part of the huge throng yesterday, congratulate yourself on a job well done!
Lineups:
Indians:
A. Cabrera ss
G. Sizemore cf
S. Choo rf
T. Hafner dh
J. Peralta 3b
M. LaPorta 1b
M. Grudzielanek 2b
L. Marson c
M. Brantley lf
Tigers:
A. Jackson cf
J. Damon lf
M. Ordonez rf
M. Cabrera 1b
C. Guillen dh
B. Inge 3b
God C
S. Sizemore 2b
A. Everett ss
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Today's lineup
Jackson 8,
Damon 7,
Ordonez 9,
Cabrera 3,
Guillen dh,
Inge 5,
Avila 2,
Sizemore 4,
Everett 6
Here's to hoping Bondo gets an easy 1st inning...
And Talbot? Isn’t that a clothing store…?
by DetroitTigersGeek on Apr 10, 2010 11:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Stupid work will cause me to miss the whole game
Perhaps I shouldn’t complain so much, though. I just shelled out almost $800 in car repairs. At least it was a gasket problem and not a cracked engine block.
by SabreRoseTiger on Apr 10, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions
thank goodness
For small pluses. Better than an engine block, indeed.
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must have been the week of car problems
mine racked up an $1800 repair bill. but in the seven years I’ve had it, aside from regular maintenance this was the first laundry list of stuff that needed fixing.. so, not bad.
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I won't be able to join y'all today
My man-crush dictates that I go to the Ballpark in Arlington to see Felix Hernandez pitch. I leave the Coke puns in your capable hands.
by ChrisDTX on Apr 10, 2010 11:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
We'll Seay what we can do
I hope he throws a no hitter. That would be cool.
by Rob Rogacki on Apr 10, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Im glad we're 3-1
But, we are suppose to beat KC & CI. They are the bottom feeders of our divsion. We’re not even out of our division yet. Does anyone think we’d be 3-1 if started with CWS & MT. Im very concerned about us not hitting thier starters in games 1-4 so far. However our pitching has rescued us for the most part. If Bondo can even turn in a quality start today, that would be a huge boost to the entire starting 5.
Yes, some of these wins have been ugly. They are going to happen. You are going to win some games you should’nt have and lose some games you should’ve won. How we play between those will determine our fate. Overall though a good start by our team. I like how they battle the whole 9 innings, that will help us all season long. Sorry, no coke jokes.
I don't think we should
worry about whether we would beat MIN and CHI with how we’ve played so far. The fact that we’re taking care of business against KC & CLE is good enough in my mind. This team is fun to watch, especially when they get to an opposing team’s bullpen. I’m enjoying the ride so far.
by Rob Rogacki on Apr 10, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna be gone for probably the first half of the game...
my family wants me to spend time with them. Annoying right? Anyways I’ll be intermittent in my commenting for a bit (especially since I don’t have a laptop right now and my wireless connection is sucking on my ipod). I’ll be hanging out here with you guys again eventually.
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Happy family fun day, Poopz!
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At least your not shoveling cow sh!t for gardens...
Day 2 of this…
by DetroitTigersGeek on Apr 10, 2010 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Try cleaning up after a winter's worth of Golden Retriever and Black Lab
that was 2 days worth of fun
Ha ha. I hear ya!
I have 2 collies at home. Fun stuff.
by DetroitTigersGeek on Apr 10, 2010 1:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorta...
Don’t forget, Bondo is starting. That means he’ll dig himself a three run hole in the first inning before setting down, like, 14 in a row on 40 pitches, in addition to all the other stuff you mentioned.
With those who don't give a damn about baseball, I can only sympathize. I do not resent them. I am even willing to concede that many of them are physically clean, good to their mothers and in favor of world peace. But while the game is on, I can't think of anything to say to them. ~ Art Hill
because it's cool
That’s why. A job that despite all the technology that has changed it in terms of communications, GPS, weather satellites, etc. still boils down to people doing a hard, dangerous job in a difficult environment.
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howdy folks
yet again i had to set my alarm to make sure i got up in time. hoooray weekends.
got a band concert later tonight; i’m stoked
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I agree with you there.
and it’s only been afternoon for 8 minutes for me
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hi there!
This feels like a reunion of all my internet baseball fans. It’s been spotty with all the afternoon games. :(
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day games + work = no game for me
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In all fairnes...
….that wasn’t the typical Bondo first inning.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
incredible that Jeremy is only 27.. seems like hes been around for forever
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That and MSU basketball
Sadly, this also includes MSU football.
by Pete Rossman on Apr 10, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
woah
Easy 1-2-3 first inning for Bonderman? Please oh please let this be a sign of things to come. He’s had such a rough time of it lately.
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Damon has to heat up.
He shows his socks.
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Okay, Damon
We both know that I don’t like you, but if you refrain from sucking I will tolerate your presence.
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don't like Noodle-arm Damon
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hey, at least he made that a 2 run homer instead of solo!
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ta-da!
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What a start for Magglio
Nice to see him bounce back from his struggles.
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hey all
Just got back to school from Opening Day. What a game and a crowd. Nice to see Bondo off to a good start and get through the 1st, and Mags stayin hot with another blast
I think I hear it coming.
I hope Brandon isn’t walking behind any horses.
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So far
these AL Central pitching staffs (outside of Greinke) are at the very most, underwhelming, with the bullpens being even worse. Could be a big year for us
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this is true
i think the Sox will give us the biggest challenge this year as far as pitching staffs go. The Indians and Royals staffs look sub-par so far
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and they always do well against Detroit, too
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Do we really have an early lead?
This is pretty cool.
I'm hoping he adds...
…hanging curve to his arsenal.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I thought is 4 pitches are Home Run, Triple, Double, Single
by RealityIsOptionable on Apr 10, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It looked good.
Very pretty off the bat.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
wind blowing in from right?
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good guess on my part
I should get a job forecasting. :)
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My end of season prediction only had him at .489.
I’ll gladly eat crow. :)
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
did you have a good time at Opening Day?
I’m sure you did … did you stay warm at the ballpark?
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no pressure to get your second hit scotty
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what a rough 1st inning for talbot eh?
his pitch count’s gotta be waaaay up there
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that was the best Tigers inning i can remember in a long time
I’m not saying it was but that I can remember. Maybe I am just giddy cuz Bondo and Maggs look good again. I had all but written off Maggs. Lots of good abs
I was just about to say...
…I feel….good….about that inning. Cool.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
they were messing with it during the bp i saw in lakeland
he took a lot of extra practice.
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Anyone know why this game isn't being shown
on the MLB Extra Innings preview? Yesterday’s game was and tomorrow’s is, so it seems weird that I can’t find this one….
I just need Rod
To say filthy and I’ll have Rod Allen Bingo.
by Pete Rossman on Apr 10, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I got mine with Mr. Snappy...
….it’s been a long time since I’ve filled that square.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
filthy, bananas, and Mr. Snappy?
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ok, someone really needs to make this
i would buy it, or at least play a drinking game with it
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It's in the works
The free space is a picture of Rod chasing a Japanese pitcher to the outfield.
by Pete Rossman on Apr 10, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
all things being (un)equal
Tigers pitching > than Indians pitching…..I predict a sweep
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I will not see him. :(
Because it’s the home opener for the Loons tomorrow. I need to get there early to find a parking spot, as they are having a little pre-game parade.
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Opie catch
I am astonished at the non-stress-ness of watching Bonderman pitch.
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I had forgotten how big Bondo's nostrils are.
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adam everett is hitting better than johnny damon
what.
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bwahahahaha
This makes me happy.
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I'm nicer to him
Than I am to 44 on the Red Wings.
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrr...
One of my friends claimed he signed me up for his fan club – my heart stopped in terror for a moment before I realized he was messing with me.
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I don't care
He doesn’t suck in the shootouts (creation of stan that they are) and he is somewhat effective when he is with Datsyuk and/or Zetterberg, but those two could probably make ME look like a goal-scorer and I can’t even SKATE.
Anywhere else in the lineup he’s useless, full of brain-dead penalties and pointless spinorama turnovers. :(
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whoops
Shootouts are the creation of SATAN, not STAN.
//minor rant fail
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same thing
Just alternative spellings.
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All of our batting averages are disturbingly high for how little offense we've seen so far this year
Well...when you factor in Lairds giant o/fer
It starts to balance out.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He probably liked having the option.
It’s a new feeling for him.
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looked like it was a hit and run
and damon either missed the sign, or didn’t swing because the pitch was so far outside
Frankly, I'd like the hit and run call.
Gotta do something to get Damon swinging and out of his funk.
i hate that gold jacket DD is wearing
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maybe hes forming
a Bee Gee’s cover band and is trying to look the part
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What Rod just said about Maggs
and the ‘character move’ to pick up his option reminds me of LT and the San Diego Chargers. They threw him under the bus
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Interesting...
…I’ll have to look into this.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
stupid comcast
appt between 2-5. half my channels are not coming in
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Yes
I would have killed someone from Comcast if i lost FSD or MLBN
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thats why Directv should be your choice
by BennieBladesFan on Apr 10, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
not possible
I live in an Historic building… aesthetics and other nonsense
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I think I'm gonna make the trip down on Monday.
Living on the west side of the state sucks sometimes. Weather permitting it’d be fun on the motorcycle to head down there.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes!
Did Rod get Lasik over the off season or something? He’s seeing so much better these days.
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MVP!
….errrrr. Guess I need to tone it down a titch.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
From Beck's Twitter
Adam Everett now has as many hits in his first 4 gms (4-for-9) as he had all spring training (4-for-44).
He was just saving it all up for when it counted.
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Really?
i guess it’s been a while since we’ve seen him. it was like b.inge’s but on his left forearm
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Just saw David Morse in a movie last night.
“16 Blocks” with Bruce Willis and Mos Def. It was pretty good.
Hey all
Thanks to asinine blackout rules, I am having to listen to this game. Has Bondo looked as good as it sounds?
he's been excellent so far
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a couple of things...
do you think that this success can be attributed to
1. these guys having never seen Bondo before, especially the “new” Bondo
2. the fact that the Indians are just bad
3. Bondo really is pitching that well (seems to have a lot of movement)
4. All of the above?
All the above, but #3 mostly
that splitter is like Porcello’s, their hitters are pounding the ball into the ground.
Okay....just because this is funny:
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that was me yesterday
6 advil and 2 gatorades before I felt normal
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nah, just stayed up too late and sipped too much thursday night
while talking to a friend
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Good hangover treatment
Step 1: Take a five hour energy at the bar
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Wake up fresh as a daisy.
Every time I"ve done this, no hangover. I’m sure it’ll come back to bite me someday though.
by Pete Rossman on Apr 10, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice catch by the guy holding the beer in the stands
bare handed a one hopper, didn’t look like he spilled.
Gah! Nobody told me Paws was on the disabled list!
I need to stop surfing the netz.
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Leyland's
reaching for another Marlboro Red this AB’s lasted so long.
by Pete Rossman on Apr 10, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
no smoking in the park whatsoever
they have already begun to enforce the new law
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Are the Tribe gettting anyone warm in the bullpen yet?
This guy’s on the ropes.
so far, yes
Only a “small sample size” if you try to project it out and make too much of it.
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brandon inge is going to win the batting title.
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GO GO GO GO GO!
I love this.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA
I LOVE THESE GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and Binge
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I was just going to beg
Them not to squander too much more. :)
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compare the close up of Talbot's face to one of JV
JV has that intense, killer look
Talbot looks like he just wants it all to end
men on the corners
no outs and here comes our Lord. I love this
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It feels so good when the batting and pitching is working at the same time.
by rcpratt on Apr 10, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Now I've become victim to mentally skipping over Sizemore in the order.
I was thinking about Everett’s grand slam last year.
"quiet in the Cleveland pen"
As a Tiger fan, I’m thankful, but for goodness sake, do they intend to just leave the poor guy out there to get killed?
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C'mon Sizemore
This is where you start your campaign to be the best Sizemore. You’ve already passed Tom, and Grady’s in front of you.
uh oh, rod's calling scotty's first rbi
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sac fly rbi for Scott Sizemore
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ugh what the hell is up with this. good for scotty
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ugh what the hell is up with this. good for scotty
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Indeed.
Not quite epic. I save epic squander for times like yesterdays runners on 2nd and 3rd w/nobody out.
by playoffbeard on Apr 10, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
UGH
Talbot is going to 3-2 on damn near every batter, and Opie just has to swing the frigging bat. Stand there with the bat on your damn shoulder, you’ll have a better chance of getting on base!
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