Rick Porcello, Dontrelle Willis lead Tigers under- and over-performers in April
At the end of the first month, we've got a bit more information about the team than we had at the end of spring training. After all, the games are real now. The pitchers are trying to win; the hitters are trying to win; the managers are trying to win. But how much can we really read into it?
These things we know: Dontrelle Willis has the best ERA in the rotation; Rick Porcello has the worst. Austin Jackson has one of the hottest starts a rookie could ask for, lacking but for power. Alex Avila could hardly buy a hit.
During a 162-game season, a lot is subject to change. To get a feel of who we could expect to take a step back and who we think will show improvement, the easiest way is to glance at a few stats that sum up the story nice and easy. They won't tell all the story, but they'll tell part of it.
If you want reason to worry a bit, the sheer number of over-performing players on the team right now is amazing. As always, remember these are long-run predictions. Nothing in them says a player must immediately turn things around or fall off a cliff.
Today we'll look at the pitchers. Tomorrow, the batters.
First, a quick note about the stats. I use xFIPP rather than FIP because it is a slightly better predictor of what you can expect happen. It's available at Fangraphs.com. I also included Baseball Prospectus' new pitching predictor, SIERA. The reason I look at these numbers is that they use stats a pitcher can control -- walks, strikeouts, etc -- rather rather than just tell you the results. Both numbers are scaled to ERA so you can easily see how much better or worse a pitcher is doing and both are better predictors than ERA. These numbers are for entering play Sunday.
Pitchers you could expect to take a step forward
| Player | ERA | xFIP | SIERA | BABIP | LOB% |
| Rick Porcello | 8.03 | 4.25 | 4.04 | 0.427 | 60.3 |
| Justin Verlander | 5.53 | 4.23 | 3.99 | 0.325 | 61.5 |
| Jeremy Bonderman | 5.74 | 4.00 | 4.18 | 0.329 | 51.1 |
| Brad Thomas | 6.92 | 5.65 | 5.71 | 0.367 | 63.0 |
As I've been proclaiming, Rick Porcello has had a combination of bad location and bad luck. The Tigers went to the video and found his arm slot was ever-so-slightly off and feel like they've fixed that. However it's easy to see he was getting nickled-and-dimed too. A glance at Fangraphs.com will show you his line drive percentage is better, his strikeouts and walks are better, his contact percentage is the same and yet his results are worse.
Jeremy Bonderman is another guy who is pitching worse than his peripherals. He's having problems getting out of innings, as you can see. He's also getting a bit unlucky. The same could be said for Justin Verlander.
Fangraphs recently took a look at which MLB pitchers were having the biggest under- or over-performances this season. Both Porcello and Bonderman were on the Top 10 list.
Finally, you can see reliever Brad Thomas is not having the best of luck either. Even adjusted his pitching isn't really that good. But it's not as bad as it's been.
Pitchers you could expect to take a step backward
| Player | ERA | xFIP | SIERA | BABIP | LOB% |
| Dontrelle Willis | 3.75 | 4.88 | 5.02 | 0.307 | 79.6 |
| Phil Coke | 1.93 | 4.98 | 5.03 | 0.350 | 81.8 |
| Jose Valverde | 0.75 | 3.79 | 2.97 | 0.129 | 93 |
| Fu-Te Ni | 1.54 | 4.27 | 3.87 | 0.259 | 77.8 |
| Eddie Bonine | 1.35 | 4.43 | 4.08 | 0.171 | 100 |
Dontrelle Willis is the only starter in this bunch. He's stranding runners at a pretty high pace compared to his career norms. He isn't striking out a lot, and he's walking fewer batters. But he's still giving too many free bases and you could expect that to catch up to him in the long run.
The rest are relievers, and due to the limited number of innings they throw during any single month of the season you probably shouldn't take their xFIP and SIERA as gospel. However, given Jose Valverde's career norms -- his 2010 ground ball rate is twice his norm, his BABIP is half the norm, his left-on-base percentage is way better -- I feel comfortable in guessing he's going to take a step back.
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what about zumaya?
or does he not enter the conversation because we’re used to him getting hurt by july..
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zing indeed
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by David Tokarz on May 3, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
ouch
nice
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by JoelZumayaKegStand on May 3, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
any pitcher left out is performing about as you'd expect
and should vary a bit but do OK for himself.
Long as Zumaya as healthy, he’s an incredible pitcher. No one has ever debated that. Just have to keep him healthy.
by Kurt Mensching on May 3, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
What I'm seeing in those charts...
is that Brad Thomas is a wanker.
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Indeed
Also, does anyone else think we should play “Down Under” by Men at Work every time he comes into a game?
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by David Tokarz on May 3, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Thomas needs a demotion!
Gallaraga or Figaro need to be brought up.
Player W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR HB BB SO WHIP HLD GF
Armando Galarraga 3 2 2.30 5 5 0 0 0 31.1 24 8 8 2 2 6 28 0.96 0 0
Alfredo Figaro 3 1 2.76 5 5 0 0 0 29.1 28 9 9 1 0 9 21 1.26 0 0
Rayburn down
I apologize...
for accidentally starting the Ryan “Rayburn” trend over the weekend. 1,000 apologies.
Where is Randy Smith when you need him?
Marc always does this.
It’s okay.
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by David Tokarz on May 3, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I've said it before
“Rayburn” is just the bad version of Raburn, much like bad JV is Jason Verlander.
It kinda is. Cause everytime he's in the outfield,
I scream, why????
"There's no crying in baseball"
I appreciate the stats
but are there some “average” numbers for xFIP and SIERA that we could compare to? What should we expect to see out of a Verlander or Porcello-type pitcher? I’m specifically interested in Porcello to see how off he’s been or if he’s just getting unlucky.
That's what those numbers are--projections
They tell us what we should expect to see. Otherwise check out ZIPS projections on fangraphs for them if you want other projections for the rest of the season.
yeah...
his BABIP tells us that he’s been pretty unlucky thus far.
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Galaraga needs to be in Detroit....
…..one way or anotehr….Never unserstood why he didnt make the team in the first palce….The guy can flat out pitch and deserves to be oin motown….he had one bad season.
Mmm
I was a huge proponent of keeping him in the minors this year (last year was so very painful, and spring training this year was just as bad), but he has shown some flashes from his rookie year this last month, so maybe it IS time to bring him back. The problem is there isn’t really a place to put him, unless we put Brad Thomas on waivers. For the moment, I like keeping him starting at AAA, because at some point you can be sure Bondo, Scherzer, or Willis will go down, and we will need someone to step right into the role. If he is pitching well, I think Galaraga is much more valuable as a starter than a middle reliever.
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exactly....
chances are that we will need a starter at some point. Galarraga is our guy in case of a double header or injury to one of our starters (or total meltdown). For at least this season Galarraga is our insurance policy as long as he pitches well in the minors.
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I think Galarraga needs Detroit more than Detroit needs Galarraga, if that makes sense
And while he had one bad season, he also only had one decent season. And that’s all it was, not great but not terrible.
Galarraga had a decent season then regressed back to what his numbers "ought" to have been.
He’s a back end at best and insurance.
Dontrelle Willis apologist.
two things
1) there’s no where to put him
2) he’s pitching against minor leaguers.
At some point, an injury bug will bite someone and he’ll be in the rotation. Til then I’m not worried either way.
by Kurt Mensching on May 3, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
One think I noticed about this blog is there is not enough love for Willis…I think he has done everything we asked and Bondo….
Realistically, Dontrelle has done better than anyone expected.
Hopefully he can keep it up.
Also: boo to your Sharks and A’s.
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and realistically...
everything points to him not doing better than expected for long and at least regressing to “expected.”
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Flaw in stats
Not sure if i read it here or somewhere else but isn’t “the cleaners” high line-drive rate something to look at as a reason for the high BABIP not to go down?
by The Duke of Ankh on May 3, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions
his line drive rate is driving the BABIP
but it’s the line drive rate that will come down unless hes a historic hitter
by Kurt Mensching on May 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Even then
His BABIP is .500- that’s impossible to sustain.
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That's what Kurt and I have been working on for the last hour or so.
Interesting results lie ahead!
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if I ever get a chance to finish
don’t blame me if the recap is empty because I forgot there was a game on, ok folks?
by Kurt Mensching on May 3, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
More on Jackson:
highest LD% over the last 3 years is David Wright at 24.7%. Figgins next at 24.3%. Only 7 hitters >23% and one more at 22.9%.
So Austin Jackson has to be as good of a hitter as Wright, Figgins, Freddy Sanchez, Michael Young, Manny Ramirez, Todd Helton, Ryan Howard and James Loney to even be an elite LD bat.
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38.9%.
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D-Train Will Regress
As soon as he signs an extension or new contract.
Galarraga will see time in Detroit
You just simply don’t ever use the same 5 starters for an entire season. Ever. He’s the #1 candidate to be called up in the event of an injury or double-header or something.
Question: what if Porcello is still generating the same results at Memorial Day? How long should the leash be? I know the indicators are some bad luck, but results matter too. You don’t win divisions with an unsustainable BABiP. Of course, the Tigers never win divisions anyway…
by ChrisDTX on May 3, 2010 4:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
What's the option other than Porcello?
Galarraga?
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The question is
how long do you let Porcello get whacked around before going to a AAA option, whether it be Galarraga, Figaro or whoever? This will probably be moot since RP is more likely than not to turn it around, but still…how long do you give him. I say until the start of interleague play (June).
by ChrisDTX on May 3, 2010 4:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
For me? August.
And even then I don’t know if I send him down. I understand that results matter, but these aren’t things that are in his control and he’s not a Jarrod Washburn (i.e. aging vet that doesn’t affect the future). Rick Porcello is a big league pitcher, and he’s made improvements across the board.
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He's a big league pitcher all right
And I do think he’ll get it together, maybe as soon as his next start. If he’s still crapping the bed in August, it probably won’t matter, though.
by ChrisDTX on May 3, 2010 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good point. Of all the Tigers starter not named JV, I think he gets the biggest leash (along with Scherzer).
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Do Bondo and Willis even have leashes?
Or are the Tigers just holding their collars, waiting for them to break?
Pretty much.
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