Tigers move on by clobbering the Tribe, 12-6
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 3, 2010 6:13 PM EDT
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Que sera sera. Whatever will be, will be.
Today was a transition for the Tigers, the Indians, umpire Jim Joyce, the fans, the media, you name it. Let's just call it getaway day for everyone.
Yesterday we had a letdown. We had a controversy. Today we had the word from the commissioner that the perfect game will not make the record books despite what everyone saw.
June 2, 2010, will be a date never forgotten by Tigers fans, but today is June 3. For me it's time to move on; to do anything else would be wasted effort and emotion.
I thought the Tigers, their fans and Joyce all handled that well today. Galarraga was rightfully feted for his performance. GM presented him with a Corvette. (Watch the FS Detroit video of the whole pregame, via rcpratt)
Fans mostly applauded Joyce when came out of the tunnel before the game. They applauded again when Galarraga took the lineup card out to Joyce, who was assigned to be the home plate umpire.
Then we had baseball.
And would you look at that? The Tigers finally had some offense.
Magglio Ordonez fell a single short of the cycle. He and Miguel Cabrera hit back-to-back home runs in the seventh inning. Austin Jackson had four hits; Brennan Boesch added three. The Tigers broke out for 17 hits in all.
To top it off, Jackson made another over-the-shoulder catch. Let's not forget what Curtis Granderson did for the Tigers defensively during his time in Detroit ... because remembering the amazing plays Granderson made makes what Jackson is doing seem even more impressive.
It wasn't all good, however. The Tigers had a big "4" staring back at them in the error column today, all the result of the infield. Brandon Inge, Adam Everett, Carlos Guillen twice, what a mess. I didn't see the game today so I can't comment too much on what went wrong for those guys. But it sure sounds ugly.
Naturally, Rick Porcello's line wasn't too beautiful either. The first five batters of the fourth inning reached base off him. Two of those were the result of errors.
Anyway, Detroit righted the ship the past two days. That's the most important thing now.
On to Kansas City.
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No perfect game for Galarraga
MLB does it again and won’t change it to a perfect game for Galarraga. I’m sick to my stomach about this. In the last Inning on the last out of a perfect game a blown call changes history. I don’t know what to say, one bad call after another. This is just another reason why the NFL is head and shoulders above everybody else. Sorry I’m just to sick type any more!!!! pointless
I disagree
even after watching Armando be robbed in person, I still can’t find myself to be pro-instant replay in baseball for a few reasons. Baseball is a game firmly rooted in antiquity while being pulled towards modernity. It’s also a game that has a very distinct rhythm and pace to it, unlike any other sport. As much as I hate to say it, even if the umpires had gone to the clubhouse, realized the runner was out, and come back out and overturned the ruling, it wouldn’t have seemed right.
Baseball has something no other sport has in it’s longstanding tradition, and that is something I distinctly love about the game despite moments like this.
I must disagree with you disaggreance
MLB’s failure to move toward modernity is one of the reasons why it’s declining in popularity as time goes on.
In a game that takes breaks for meaningless timeouts, pitching changes, and a wide variety of other things, I don’t think that allowing instant replay is going to interrupt the pace of the game. If anything it would seem to me that baseball is set up better than any other pro sport for instant replay simply because baseball fans are used to short breaks in the game at any given time.
The addition of instant replay would raise some new issues with the length of games (which is a huge problem that the sport is completely failing to deal with), but when they run as long as they do already I doubt a few extra minutes would be a big deal.
Baseball has a lot of things no other sport has in it’s longstanding tradition. I don’t think instant replay changes too much about that.
Being wrong, and standing in denial of reality is not something to be preserved
There’s nothing admirable about standing on the wrong platform.
There’s no reason not to get the calls right.
There doesn’t need to be a tunnel, or a delay.
In fact, one review official could sort things out faster than it takes a manager to come out and argue the call. That would SAVE time, not delay the game.
I have yet to see a single reason why instant replay is not used on any play where it could help to get the call right. There are no ill consequences.
disagree^3
i don’t want instant replay
i think we’re both right
by redwingxviii on Jun 3, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Dismissing someones opinion is hardly the right thing to do.
and makes me disregard whatever you’ve written completely.
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by Rob Rogacki on Jun 4, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
quote...
Being wrong, and standing in denial of reality is not something to be preserved
There’s nothing admirable about standing on the wrong platform.
Maybe you weren’t dismissing his opinion. Sure sounded like it though.
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No, MP- my words were aimed at MLB, not the previous post
All that stuff about being wrong, denial of reality, etc is aimed at the powers that refuse to acknowledge that they CAN get the calls right.
Of course, all that is pretty clear if you read the entire post! lol.
I read the whole post...
and I’ve reread it several times and every time I take it out of context.
Now that I’ve learned something about assumptions, I’ll leave this be.
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I read it as Tigerdog meant it
and didn’t once even think he meant it about anyone commenting.
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
my brain works funny I guess.
but like I said, I should stop assuming.
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I don't know if anybody posted this yet.
But the video of the pregame today is pretty awesome, for those that were at work. Watch it.
Can we stop the talk about yesterday being a "let down"
Normally I’m a big fan of Kurt’s posts, but I have to say yesterday was hair-pulling, face-palming, moon-screaming frustration, and the MLB’s response today was what I expected, and possibly the right call (not overturning Joyce’s call)….
BUT: yesterday was not a let down. No matter what Joyce called, what the MLB has ruled, Galaragga threw a perfect game. No astrix. Not here. No let down. Not on a tigers fan site. Lets let the MLB call it what it wants, we all know what we watched yesterday, so do the tigers, and Mando knows what he threw: a perfect game. And here, of all places, we should celebrate that.
Even if you don’t want to call it a perfect game, Galaragga showed us something spectacular and has officially moved the Tigers past that unfortunate era — the Dontrelle Willis era.
Sure, last week we saw a lot of flaws in the Tigers. We’ve also seen Cabrera hit three homers in a game (and, I think, 6 in the last week) on route to a serious triple crown contending MVP season, seen AJAX make spectacular catches along with 7 hits in the last two games, seen Scherzer get 14 Ks in less than 6 innings, and, yes, a perfect game from Armando (and perfect or not, it was a spectacular performance from someone just called up from Toledo).
Oh yeah: they’re all under 26, and all Tigers for the next few years…
Yesterday was not a let down, I’ll remember the game for more then how it ended, that was sweet pitching to watch, and baseball at its best for 8.2 innings.
It’s not clear whether the Tigers will pull it all together thru the season to get past the Twins, but it is clear there’s a boatload of exciting talent on the team. This team really does look like a team does one or two seasons before going deep into the post-season.
by EllDove on Jun 3, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I respectfully disagree.
It is a let down. It’s not everyday you get a perfect game—I know it’s happened more often recently, which kind of plays down the importance—and it is a big deal. Armando will know he had that perfect game, and we will know he had that perfect game. History should acknowledge that. This is bigger than just the Tigers.
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It's Fair enough to call the Joyce miff a huge let down
but imagine that joyce had called it correctly, that Donald got the hit. And the game ended the way it did.
Mando still threw a spectacular complete game 1-hitter. For any pitcher in the game that’s not a let down, for any pitcher with any history its not a let down.
For Galaragga who had a solid rookie year, followed by a scary fall-off last year that made it look like he had a fluke run in ’07, and has spent the last two months in Toledo: yesterday was fantastic. a huge confidence builder. NOT a let down. and, oh yeah: a “W”.
Let’s not forget that, no matter how rich a tradition baseball has, including special categories of individual performance like a perfect game, a no-hitter, hitting a cycle, etc etc etc…. it’s a team sport, yesterday was a much needed win for the Tigers, Galaragga earned that win, with help from Cabrera, Ajax, and Maggs especially. That’s not a let down.
I'm not trying in any way to say the W was a let down
but Armando not getting credit for his fantastic performance is.
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I agree.
It was the right call. As I pointed out in a post last night, if you get Commissioner Selig to overturn that one call, you’re opening up a whole can of worms you want to stay closed. Cardinals fans will want Don Denkinger’s call overturned, Jays fans will want that should’ve-been-a-triple-play in the ‘92 World Series overturned… it’d just go on and on. Trust me, it’s a precedent you don’t want to set. Besides, everyone will know Armando was perfect… hell, we all know who Ernie Shore is, because of what happened in a peculiar pseudo-perfect game decades ago.
I was also encouraged by Selig’s statement today, talking about how he would look at expanding replay, in consultation with the player and umpire unions, amongst others — however, I heard on the radio tonight that, in an informal survey of players in a clubhouse (the Marlins, I think), most players did not want to overturn the call or expand replay. So, I guess we’ll see how it all shakes out in the months ahead.
I just also wanted to say that I am so, so proud of how the Tiger organization — Jim Leyland and Armando Galarraga, in particular — have handled themselves in the face of this injustice. I get the impression that the rest of the sports world has taken notice of the classiness of this entire franchise, too. Well done, fellows.
rec elldove
i am a jackass fan most of the time. prone to hotheadedness
but i like what elldove has to say
by redwingxviii on Jun 3, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This is part of history.
if not so much for the MLB, than for the Tigers. And if that isn’t enough it’s a highlight in what has become an unexpected career.
Think about it. Armando came to the Tigers essentially as a nobody, won a starting role, became our top pitcher for a season, fell pretty hard, than worked his way back into the majors to throw a PERFECT GAME.
This is a story that will now not be recorded for what it is, absolute perfection. Instead it will now be remembered for a blown call, maybe an inspiration to change the nature of the game. But no matter what it won’t be remembered how it should be.
We may remember it for what it was, but the world will not. And that is sad.
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Now that's everything's over and done...
In the end, Galarraga and Joyce came out winners in the perfect game mess. Both handled it better than I could have ever imagined. Galarraga was class personified, period. Joyce admitted he was wrong, and faced the music, consequences be damned. I may not like his call, but you have to respect how he handled the aftermath.
The loser? F’n Bud Selig for dancing around the issue in his statement. OK, don’t change the call, it’s their right. But if MLB was never going to overturn Joyce’s blown call, then Selig should outright have said so.
Instead, we got 3 paragraphs of meaningless BS.
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I don’t care what Bud Selig and the record books say. I know that what I saw on tv last night was a perfect game and nothing is going to change that. The grace and humility Armando Galarraga has shown over the last 24 hours has just blown me away. He is an amazing athlete and an amazing man and I’m incredibly proud of him. Have to admit that I’m pretty impressed with Jim Joyce too. After hearing about Joe West and Bob Davidson all season, it was refreshing to see an umpire admit that he made a mistake and seem truly upset about it.
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Well. Now the White House is in on it.
http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2010/06/white_house_baseball_should_re.html
via Mlive and the AP, looks like they’re taking this directly to the Prez.
Look, I want this to be a perfect game in the books but damn, our leaders have more on their plate than this. Armando has gotten more than he ever could have wished for out of this, especially all the media attention and love from fans.
If the White House DOES send an executive order to Selig, I’ll be happy, but it will be somewhat bittersweet. Don’t know if I want the govn’t doing this.
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So . . .
. . . anybody still think after yesterday that what this team really needs is Roy Oswalt? :)
f*** roy oswalt
this clown will suck in the AL. guaranteed. (drunk). so not guaranteed. “really good guess”
by redwingxviii on Jun 3, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn't mean to be rude to rea
just wanted to clear that up.
i am just a single vote against oswalt, an uneducated vote at that
I want a bat
Preferably at SS.
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by David Tokarz on Jun 4, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Jeez
I really need to see if I can find some SS prospects with contenders that have weak bullpens- methinks we could find some good matchups there.
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by David Tokarz on Jun 4, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
i think you were on the right track when you suggested Tampa
I would guess that despite their amazing record they will try to ship a player or two to trim payroll so they have a shot at keeping Crawford, Pena and/or Upton.
The starters have went deep a lot this season which helps but beyond their closer the pen is just meh (IMO).
Curious to see what you come up with.
Right now my best guess is Bartlett
If we get lucky, Bartlett goes on the DL and Briggy hits himself into a full-time job. Then we can acquire Bartlett. The only problem is that the Rays need hitting rather than relievers.
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My guess is that they don't give a damn about Crawford
Pena and Upton will (and should) be their primary concerns. Crawford will not age gracefully IMO.
Not to mention
They’ve got this guy named Desmond Jennings chilling in the minors, just waiting for his opportunity.
They’ll let Carl sign somewhere else for far too much money, and eat up the sweet draft picks.
I’m sure they’ll let Pena move on as well, or sign him for extremely cheap if he keeps up his terrible campaign. There are going to be plenty of quality aging 1B that are going to be on the market in the offseason, so Pena most likely won’t be a concern at all. If he manages to stay a type B, even better for them.
by ozymandius1024 on Jun 4, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I look at it like this.....
The Tigers definitely need a shortstop.
But then, we needed one when los Carlos was leading the league in errors.
We needed one when DD was “surprised” by Renteria’s total lack of range.
We needed one when Renteria left and DD tried to put in Everett because he screwed up the payroll.
We still needed one when Everett was the worst hitter in the league vs RHP’s in 2009, yet DD brought him back.
And we STILL need a shortstop.
The way that things have settled in at the moment, the rotation is doing okay.
Willis and Nate are gone, and that’s a good thing.
Verlander, Scherzer, Porcello, Bonderman, Galarraga- which one do you replace?
One thing is for sure- if the rotation doesn’t perform, this team goes nowhere.
But most of us were surprised when the key acquisition last year was a pitcher- Washedburnt.
DD tucked his tail between his legs and let the deadline go with a struggling lineup, leaving him only the players that could clear waivers- enter Aubrey Huff.
I think they’ll wait this out and see how we’re doing around the break, then make a move.
If we’re out of it after a pretty easy schedule in June (no other way to put it), the Tigers are sellers. We could see some housekeeping. But I think that’s not likely unless the Twinkies take off and the rotation collapses.
More likely, the Tigers are in the hunt and DD moves to acquire a key piece that will help make a run at the division in 2010. At the moment, a shortstop is the biggest need. In a month, who knows?
One thing I've wondered about the whole "can of worms" argument...
How come the George Brett pine tar incident didn’t open that proverbial can of worms?
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The Pine Tar game is different
That game actually involved a rule in the books that said you couldn’t have pine tar above a certain length on the bat. (Ever seen bats with lines in the middle? That’s basically the length.)
I’ve seen discussion recently that the umpire (Tim McClellan, who’s still umpiring) misapplied the rule. From what I remember of the incident, he followed the letter of the rule and called Brett out for using improper equipment. A couple of days later, the AL commissioner (back when they had separate league commissioners) overturned that ruling because Brett had not broken “the spirit of the rule”.
Apparently the original rule was in the book to save wear-and-tear on baseballs, as they were re-used more often in the early 20th century. As tradition evolved and more “clean” baseballs were used in games, the pine-tar rule became obsolete. But nobody took it out of the book.
In the Galarraga case, there’s not a failsafe when an umpire makes a clearly wrong ruling on the field, other than having a discussion with the other umpires. That’s not covered at all in the rule book (the home-run instant replay notwithstanding).
As has been noted previously, Joyce wasn’t going to ask for help on that call because it’s his primary responsibility. None of the players thought to ask any of the other umpires for help because, again, it’s Joyce’s call. Could Guillen or Everett have asked the second-base ump to discuss it with Joyce? Maybe, but it’s understandable that they didn’t. And the second-base ump likely would have declined anyway.
by HawkeyeEdward on Jun 4, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
The pine tar game involved INTERPRETATION of the rules
the Royals protested, their protest was upheld and the call was reversed.
Specifically, the umpire went farther than the rules allowed by taking away the home run after the fact. The rules didn’t allow that, and the call was reversed.
We're both right, according to Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tar_Incident
The Royals protested the game, and their protest was officially heard by American League President Lee MacPhail, who overruled McClelland’s decision and restored Brett’s home run.
At the time, MLB Rule 1.10(b) stated: “The bat handle, for not more than 18 inches from the end, may be covered or treated with any material or substance to improve the grip. Any such material or substance, which extends past the 18-inch limitation, shall cause the bat to be removed from the game.” However, the rule did not indicate any possible penalty for the batter, or even if one was permitted. Citing this, McClelland (urged on by Billy Martin) invoked “The Umpire’s Prerogative”, Rule 9.01©, which states “Each umpire has authority to rule on any point not specifically covered in these rules.”
However, in explaining his decision, MacPhail noted that the “spirit of the restriction” on pine tar on bats was based not on the fear of unfair advantage, but simple economics; any contact with pine tar would render a ball unsuitable for play, and require that it be discarded and replaced, thus increasing the home team’s cost of supplying balls for a given game. MacPhail ruled that since Brett had not violated the spirit of the rules nor deliberately “altered [the bat] to improve the distance factor”, McClelland’s on-field invocation of Rule 9.01© was inappropriate, unnecessary, and disproportionate to the offense; the bat should have been simply removed from the game and play resumed (as stated by 1.10(b)) rather than revoking Brett’s home run, summarily ejecting him, and awarding the game to the Yankees.
MacPhail ordered the game resumed with two out in the top of the ninth inning with the Royals up 5-4. He also ruled that Brett was to be ejected for his outburst against McClelland. Dick Howser was also ejected for arguing with the umpires and Gaylord Perry was ejected for giving the bat to the batboy so he could hide it in the clubhouse.
by HawkeyeEdward on Jun 4, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The Joyce'd perfect game can do this for the Tigers
It could bring them incredibly close as a team. I think even more so than if the call was made correctly. I don’t normally have much faith in those types of things, but this is such a unique experience that transcended sports and was so big, I think it can have that impact.
Plus our schedule coming up is rather soft (as it was when we prepared to play Seattle and Oakland, so you never now). Hopefully, the pitching staff keeps rolling through KC and hopefully we will figure out Chicago, then come home for some weak NL opponents.
hi Tigers fans
Oakland A’s fan & front pager here from Athletics Nation… I joined here after what happened yesterday and after seeing today’s events I wanted to say that IMO there is no classier organization in MLB, or in sports for that matter, than your Detroit Tigers.
The way this whole thing was handled, from Armando G.’s thoroughly focused and honorable non-reaction to the blown call on the field (going on to induce out #28 when many of us would have lost our minds if it was us out there), to the Corvette thing today, to the (utterly genius, fantastic, brilliant) move by your (utterly genius, fantastic, HoF-caliber) manager to have AG bring out the lineup card to the umpire that missed the call, to the comments to the media today by all the various players like Gerald Laird illustrate better than any words I could invent exactly how classy your team and franchise are and I joined up specifically because I wanted you all to know that the fans of the other teams were mightily impressed with the way this most difficult and bizarre situation was handled by your team and organization.
I should also say that this will, in all likelihood, be the tipping point that brings some sort of Replay system to MLB, so you should at least be pleased knowing that Armando Galarraga’s Perfect Game (and a Perfect Game it was, despite the unfortunate non-result) did not die in vain.
Cheers to you all from The Bay Area,
Josh
Athletics Nation
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by emperor nobody on Jun 4, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you guys are all welcome =)
I just watched the MLB Network segment on the whole thing today and I should also say that maybe the classiest thing of all of it was the reaction of the fans when the umpires came through the tunnel… major applause to the Motor City faithful for their admirable restraint.
To me that’s the model way you’d want to see people respond: gracious, classy, restrained in all ways; majorly impressed here, all of us are on AN.
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by emperor nobody on Jun 4, 2010 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm assuming you're calling Leyland a genius is tongue in cheek
His lineups should prove he’s not quite that smart.
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by David Tokarz on Jun 4, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, thank you for the rest of your kind words
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by David Tokarz on Jun 4, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
the only thing I'd worry about with Jim Leyland
would be how he is gonna keep himself from smoking cigarettes during the games now that MI passed its no-smoking-in-the-workplace law. Otherwise I’d take his skills and intellect in my dugout any game of the week.
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by emperor nobody on Jun 4, 2010 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions
He's a good manager
But his skills are definitely better shown in his leadership rather than his tactics. The guy occasionally has problem with bullpen usage and his lineups are bonkers.
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the leadership skills are so valued over the full 162
It really showed yesterday and today, what he brings, in the sensitive way he handled what could have been a really big mess where the team’s focus could have so easily been lost…instead your guys went out and scored a tasty 12 runs and won going away. The way he handled it speaks volumes and the whole event IMO will serve the Tigers well going forward in the divisional race, just the demonstration of focus by him really filters down to young players in particular. .. I grew up a Met fan in NYC so I have been impressed with JL since his Pirates days 20 years ago.
Anyway we have pitchers’ elbows exploding and guys colliding with each other at top speed (come on, this is the A’s, where our only hope is to hang around until the division wins us), but we’ll try to do our best for your cause this weekend vs. them Twinkies.
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by emperor nobody on Jun 4, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Please do
Nothing would make me happier than the A’s sweeping the Twins.
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me too
but these guys can tell you about my A’s-ness
by Kurt Mensching on Jun 4, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the kind word, Josh
Though your Athletics were terrible houseguests last time they were here. Took a dump in the pool and everything ;)
by ChrisDTX on Jun 4, 2010 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hey you guys swept us 2 in Oakland, we were just returning the favor ;)
[[[returns to inner fantasy world where the umps always get the calls right and the A’s have one single solitary hitter 1/1000000000th as devastating as M. Cabrera]]]
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by emperor nobody on Jun 4, 2010 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It's the precedent that Mr. Illitch has set
We all know the story about how he kept the GM sponsorship in center field last year despite them not being able to afford it, as well as all of his feel-good stories with both the Tigers and Red Wings. The classiness starts from the top down, and there’s none classier than Mr. and Mrs. Illitch. (Though lowering beer prices never hurts Mr. I)
OT, but ANOTHER GAME GAINED ON THE TWINS
by okie for michigan on Jun 4, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions
El Rey Felix!
4 K’s in an inning, plus a win against Satan. As if I needed more reasons to like the guy…
by ChrisDTX on Jun 4, 2010 12:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And another added bonus
Carl Pavano was the losing pitcher!
by ozymandius1024 on Jun 4, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Tigers win,
but still alot of work to do. 4 errors isn’t gonna get it done. Still gotta work on getting runners moved up and in to score. On the plus side they scored in multiple innings, and the bullpen looked good again. Not getting too excited, it was just the Indians. We won the series, which is what we have to do for the rest of this month. Lots of winnable games coming up.
Thanks to All and especially you emperor nobody
Well I think we all took this in stages as it happened. We were at or watching the game as us loyal fans do. It starts to get even more exciting about the 7tth inning. You watch and lean on every bat cleveland was taking. You see some balls hit and you think oh oh but it became a routine play. Until the 9th inning. Now the adrenalin is really going, you see that it is possible to happen. The first batter “Crack” and if you know baseball you know right away when the ball comes off the batters bat but before the camera pans to where the ball is hit its got serious potential to be trouble. Then the ball heads toward left center and you think well this is the one thats going to ruin in when WAM Austin Jackson stretches out his arms and snags and hangs on to the ball. The whole bar errupted. Now there is 1 out. And then very quickly 2 outs. No one is drinking, the waitresses arent moving, we’re all watching the final batter. Bouncing ball to the infield Cabby fields it, Mondo grabs at first base he’s out PERFECT GAME, we all scream and high five for about 3 seconds. “SAFE”!!! Are you f ing kidding me? Safe? So we went from excitement to celebrating to disbelief and then shock. In about 3 seconds. After shock comes anger. Somethings wrong he was out everyone on the planet knew it, escept the most important guy to throw it in the history books, the ump. I went to bed mad, woke up mad, got even madder as I flipped through all the channels and everyone talking about it and confirmed what I and everyone else knew. So, I go to work and finally around noon I get more of the story about Jim Joyce and heard his audio interview. Then my whole attitude changed. The man innocently and humbly missed the call and admited so. Was very sorry. He wasnt the ump anymore he was a human being. Then what happed how Mondo and the Tigers handed the whole thing seemed to put it all in prospective. I was hoping the fans at thurs game would do the right thing and they did. What you said about us fans emperor your words ROCKED as well as yankee fans words. This made me very proud to be Tiger Fan (More then I already was). I just want to say thanks for all the BYB posts on here, and the Mondo/Tigers and fans at the game. We turned a negative in to a huge positive. But, I also think Bud Slug I mean Selig should over turn the call. Unforseen special circumstances should gve way to common sense and justice. And I am die hard baseball fan F tradition and the rules. Why should Mondo lose out on an innocent mistake made by a human being. The mistake was not in Mondo’s hands or the tiger players, but, buy someone else who wasnt playing on the other side of the chalk line. I forgive you Jim Joyce keep umping we need guys like you, rock on BYB fans.
And to Bud Slug, GIVE MONDO HIS CORRECT DUE.
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