MLM Morning Lede: How Did the Tigers Draft?
So... that was... interesting. I'd say the draft was a disappointment and that I'm bitter, but thanks to the selection of Nick Castellanos, I really can't. But other than that, the draft went as I feared. With lots of relievers. Perhaps I shouldn't be too harsh on DD and David Chadd. They're the professionals, and if they say we need more bullpen pitchers, then we need more bullpen pitchers. It's not like Luis Marte and Zach Simons are sitting in Erie when they should be in Toledo...
Okay, so I'm a little bitter. But who could blame me? I think it's safe to say that the draft budget was lower than it was last year (probably about $6 million when all is said and done, depending on what Castellanos wants) and that resulted in a lot of relievers and fifth-starter types and college bats and... ugh. It's not that I think this draft is bad- I have faith in David Chadd, and there were some really sweet picks (including Chance Ruffin, who I kinda ragged on a litlte bit). But I too got swept up in draft fever, dreaming over guys like Stetson Allie (a Pirate) and Yordy Cabrera (an Athletic).
When you're judging this draft (as I'm about to do), a word of advice. Don't yet dwell on what players we passed up. To me, that's like complaining that you didn't get the shiny new Dreamcast for Christmas. You never know what'll happen in the future. Cabrera and Allie could go bottom up (much like the Dreamcast) and that bike that your parents got you could land up being one of the greatest things ever. Putting aside the laborious metaphor, let's take a look at some of the players drafted by the Tigers and dwell on the positive: namely, we got some sweet new talent!
Supplemental Round: Nick Castellanos, FL HS and Chance Ruffin, Texas
I already doled out scouting reports and the like yesterday, so I won't rehash content. What I will say is that after sleeping on it, I'm glad we got both these guys. Castellanos is a potential impact bat at third, and the biggest knock on him is that he has yet to convert his defensive tools and power into tangible skills. Putting that aside, he's still an impact bat in the making and a potential star at third. I'll take that. Ruffin is also pretty sick- he's drawing comparisons to Huston Street, and his deep arsenal potentially makes him a shutdown relief ace that can come in to pitch out of jams. He may not be considered good enough to close games, but he might make a heckuva fireman, especially due to his great secondary stuff. And who knows, maybe they'll move him back to starting (he started as a sophomore and did well).
Round 2: Drew Smyly, Arkansas
Here's a brief scouting report from Baseball Rumor Mill. It's easy to dwell on what Smyly is not- he's not an ace. But ptichability lefties that are fast-moving and have high floor are hard to find, and especially considering he's signable at slot, he's a good pick for a team on a stricter budget. A nice pick, he may sign early and I wouldn't be surprised to see him start at A+ Lakeland or AA Erie, depending on how fast the Tigers want him to move.
Round 3: Rob Brantly, UC Riverside
I love this pick, and this kid may turn out to be one of my favorite prospects. Baseball Rumor Mill has a scouting report here (if you can't tell, I'm rather fond of them). In a weak draft for catchers, the Tigers got a guy that has potential to be a plus one. The Baseball Rumor Mill report is a tad different than the one I have from Andy Seiler at MLB Bonus Baby, but the important thing is he's a catcher with a potentially game-changing power/speed combo that's reminded some of Joe Mauer. That's a bit of an overstatement of course, and his swing needs a little work. That, and he has questions on defense. It'll be a struggle for him to stay at catcher, but the bat is great, and if he sticks, he's a top 10 MLB starter.
Round 5: Alex Burgos, Manatee Junior College
I can't really find a free scouting report for Burgos, so there's no real link I can send you to. The lack of avaliable (and free) report is probably due to his relative obscurity as a JUCO player- these guys seldom get the respect they deserved. He's another pitchability lefty with an upper 80's fastball and good secondary stuff (above average curve and change) with plus command who projects to start long-term. The good part is that he's only 20. Maybe, just maybe, the coaches in the system can unlock a little extra potential.
Round 23: Dominic Ficociello, CA HS
Dropping a little bit in the draft was Ficociello. A prep shortstop who will probably need to move to third (actually, he is if he goes to Arkansas), he's got a ton of talent for the 23rd round. Here's a scouting report on him. He projects to be a very good offensive player with a good hit/power combination if he reaches his ceiling, and his arm is great. The downside is that he'll cost second round money to sign, but we signed James Robbins in the 30th round last year for about a hundred grand, so it's not out of the question.
Righto, so these are the six kids I'm highest on post-draft. Again, it's easy to dwell on the negative, but it's very possible one or all of these guys could help Detroit in the future. Take some time this morning to dwell on the positive instead of imagining what we could have had. Oh, and Kurt, save the Buzz Killington attitude until next week please. We prospect geeks would like some time to dream.
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great job as usual
I too am getting tired of relievers but what the hell lets see what becomes of it
I really hope Castellanos pans out
It would be really nice to have a plus bat at third base. Inge has some pop at times, but .250 ain’t cutting it in the long run.
Brantly on the mound?
In a weak draft for catchers, the Tigers got a guy that has potential to be a plus pitcher.
Surely that’’s not what you meant—is it?
I gotta work on the edits...
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by David Tokarz on Jun 9, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
great job
Good to get the skinny on the draft picks
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 9, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
I didnt think the draft was that bad...
…Castellanos is a great player and if we sign him he could be in Detroit in 2 or 3 years…we picked up a couple good relievers as well…Also a couple possible good catching prospects…sure we passed on some guys but hey maybe the FO and the guys thats get paid to do this know something we dont …Just becasue we like a guy doesnt mean he is a good fit or will pan out…Also I must say David did a great job and I want to thank him for all his coverage.
by BennieBladesFan on Jun 9, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions
He might take longer...
To develop. We don’t want to rush him and have him flame out. Take him slow, please.
But I agree, Great Job, David! I loved the draft coverage!
by DetroitTigersGeek on Jun 9, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At least this draft doesn't...
equate to the Sega CD attachment I asked for when I was 10. My Genesis was not pleased to be attached to such suckitude.
Castellanos, Brantly and Ruffin aren’t bad!
Cabrera, Cole, Allie...
/slaps self
Stop thinking of what’s gone!
/slaps self again
but seriously, I’m pretty happy with this draft (and it won’t break the bank!). Castellanos is an amazing pick, and the other pitchers will move quickly and become solid relievers (okay…boo.) or good #4, #5 starters down the road. And it’s not like we have a lot of those type of pitchers.
by DetroitTigersGeek on Jun 9, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The other thing to note
Next year is supposed to feature an incredible draft class. So consider that we’ll not only have a first rounder, but that Johnny Damon is a Type A free agent, Brandon Inge is a Type B and Gerald Laird is a type B as well. That’s up to 5 early picks if we offer arb to all three and they all reject it. HOW WICKED SWEET WOULD THAT BE?
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by David Tokarz on Jun 9, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
INCREDIBLE!!
Now, I can’t wait for the 2011 Draft!
Early names?
However, with 5 early picks, most of them will be at slot money… but still, top talent for us!
(but if our draft budget cycle continues, 2011 will have a large budget like 2009, 2007. If the trend of 4-ish years continues that is…)
by DetroitTigersGeek on Jun 9, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No early names yet
Of course, I’ve been busy on this draft…
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Start with the ones that pass up signing to go to school, then the unsigned top picks from this year...
Supposedly, it’s a deeper draft all the way around, but there’s no Bryce Harper or Steven Strasburg in the bunch. A year is a long way away when working with 17- 21 year olds.
Why wouldn't you offer him arb
If he accepts, you get a good player. If he doesn’t, you get a pick.
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That's what I said about Polanco, but you have to look at the factors used by an arbitrator.
High up in the list are salary history and experience. Those factors weigh in more in an arbitration proceeding than they would with a free agent. Also, could be that they want to move in another direction, player wise. DD isn’t the type to play the compensation game. He won’t offer arby if he doesn’t want the player to accept. He’s left several picks on the table with his avoidance of taking such chances, but that seems to be his m.o.
Yeah but the difference is, they didn’t want Polanco under any circumstances. As long as Damon plays well, I don’t see a scenario where they wouldn’t want him back. If they do want him back, they’re definitely going to offer arbitration. Keep in mind they offered it to Lyon and Rodney.
I disagree, Nick.
They didn’t want Polanco because DD could not increase the payroll and they didn’t want to take the chance that he’d accept arbitration. If it were true that DD simply didn’t want Polanco on the team because he thought they’d be better off with Sizemore, then he’s an idiot and should be fired forthwith. He’s not that stupid. It was ALL about the money.
What if Damon’s arbitration price is $ 10- 12 million? You still offer him arby? Check out his salary history. Check out his career stats, and what players with those numbers for that long are making. Things are different in arbitration than they are on the free agent market. Clubs signing a free agent don’t care how long a guy has played, just what he’s done lately.
DD offered arbitration to Lyon and Rodney because he’d be okay if they accepted, but he knew for a fact that they would not. He came right out and said he’d be surprised if either one accepted. When DD drew up the budget, he had to make room for a closer. That was THE priority, but there was no money for one without clearing payroll. There wasn’t any money to even replace the four departing free agents. So he let Polanco walk, brought back Everett on the cheap, released Thames and Treanor, and offered arby to the two relievers, and would be okay if one accepted. But those guys were looking for multi year deals, and they got them, as expected.
Yeah
I’d pay Johnny Damon $10mm at an arbitration hearing. I just don’t think it’ll come to arbitration, and that Detroit and Damon can settle for less.
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Damon may reject arbitration...
in the hopes of getting a 2 year deal from someone.
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Doubtful
He said he’s wanted to be in Detroit. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Tigers offer him a 2-year deal.
All possibilities, but I doubt that it goes the arbitration route.
There has never been an arbitration case go to hearing with the Tigers under DD. The big change next winter is that DD should have some payroll flexibility, so he has some wiggle room to sign players. If Damon does leave, that leaves a hole at the top of the order again. No problem getting a LF’er or DH, but that 2 slot is harder to fill.
agree Damon would not get Arb as type A
However, he was at 87 and falling, bet he will get to the 70’s for type B. Also Inge and Laird, type B were low sixties recently, now with Laird on the bench bet there will not be compensation.
Overheard at the RPA meeting . . .
“Hello, my name is Dave, and I’m a relief pitcheraholic . . .”
draft heavy on college guys
Whitecaps stink, need help for second half, have to keep stands full, strategy made sence to me. Also 8 million to JD this year probably hurt the draft budget……nice Coverage David.
Patrick Leyland
I think everyone would like to know what you think of Patrick Leyland. According to Jim he is alot better than he was. How would you rate him in terms of arm streignth and hitting for average? The catchers we have they cant hit the broad side of the barn. I like Avila’s future behind the plate. I know he is alot better than his average tells us. Is Leyland a future starter or back up in the Bigs?

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